I like the line "My Job is done! Go on to your next challenge!" poor guy can't even do something against lv5 and is probably pretending it was a legendary team to keep his sanity
Lance after watching Bruno's battle: "Bruno, you're the worst Elite Four member. You got beat by a team of level 5s on the first try! Let me show you how it's done." Bruno after watching Lance's battle: "At least I can blame my 'good' AI, what's your excuse?"
20:10 so apparently in gen 1, if you take confusion damage while using a Substitute, it applies the damage to your _opponent's_ Substitute instead. But if you opponent doesn't have a Substitute, then neither Pokemon takes damage.
@@Pandacalifornia I just read it on the Bulbapedia page for Substitute. Direct quote: "Due to a glitch, if a Pokémon behind a substitute takes self-inflicted confusion damage, the damage is applied to the opponent's substitute instead. If the opponent does not have a substitute, no Pokémon or substitute takes damage." (from the Gen 1 section)
@@MishKoz I meant how is something like that discovered. I guess it’s not as crazy as some other stuff though now that I think about it. But does seem incredibly situational.
16:30 I'm pretty sure Lapras didn't outspeed, but outprioritized. My guess is that Hitmonchan decided to use counter since fighting > ice, which would have a 50/50 to happen between that and thunderpunch.
Bruno doesn't have good AI, meaning he'll always choose moves at random if I understood gen 1 AI correctly. But you're right, Hitmonchan for sure using Counter.
@@Blckviper they were working under the assumption that bruno has "good AI", which would limit his choices between his two super effective moves being counter and thunder punch. but you're right, the odds are actually 1/4
awesome. I respect your mission to complete every pokémon in the “how fast can you beat red/blue” but I’d like to see you branch out more with videos like this. your videos with fresh ideas are so enjoyable to watch
Agreed. I still want the every Pokémon in every game challenge, but it’s fresh when he mixes it up. Especially since I’m sure it’s draining on him doing the same thing over and over.
One idea that I had for a challenge is trying to beat the Elite Four with non legendary Pokémon caught wild in Cerulean Cave without changing their movesets or levelling them up
It takes a certain kind of crazy to even *think* about doing this, let alone planning it out theoretically, let alone actually do it. Absolutely amazing, we love it
@@leedsunited8787 dude, Jrose has literally said in previous videos he doesn't want people competing him with Mahdrybread. They're both amazing content creators, we don't need to put one above the other
@@leedsunited8787 except JRose has *explicitly* asked people to not comment negativity about other youtubers on his videos, so feel free to have the opinion if you want, just don't comment it here
Jrose always come out with new ideas in Red and Blue and it’s so interesting. Minimum battle, solo runs, how fast series and now we have a new content of the game again
It would have been extra funny if when he said, "That's it: we win! Our substitute keeps us alive for 2 turns, and I only need to hit once with Dragon Rage!", the 1/256 Accuracy oversight occurred.
In other words, he won the challenge just because opponent’s Pokémon both used unoffensive moves and couldn’t attack the same turn they wake up. All things which are not possible anymore in next generations
@@matthewmurdock7329other gens have other ways in which you could make something like this work. From gen 5 onwards, for example, your can abuse stuff like shell bell endeavour aron alongside a sandstorm setter and beat any non-ghost mon that isn't sand immune with it
Can we just appreciate Jrose's narration skills? A lot of energy is carried into it and it often feels like a live reaction, which makes the videos super fun and energetic.
I actually prefer when he isn't all excited and freaking out but maybe I would be having a similar reaction after resetting so many times and needing really good luck to come my way
@@pokemonduck Yeah. I tried watching one of his streams months ago and I couldn't deal with it. I realized I liked his straight commentary and not his emotional hurdles + excitement. Even when it was live and not him recreating his reaction after the fact, it still didn't resonate with me.
I've heard Jrose drinks heavily after every recording in order to forget everything that happened during the run. That way his recorded reactions are like he's seeing the game for the first time. Such dedication to the craft.
I have to give JRose a lot of credit for coming up with this idea and actually attempting it not to mention creating a really unique team. Congratulations pretty sad that a level 5 team with adjusted moves beat the Gen 1 Elite 4 and champion
@@christopherballero866 That's ignoring all the context and luck involved tho. People like Smallant, Pointcrow, PChal etc. have beaten entire games like B/W or D/P/P with lvl 1 Pokemon.
Just saying, he didn't come up with the idea. He just tried it in a game that not a lot of other people would think about when doing this type of challenge. Plenty of other people have done similar challenges. In fact, I believe that Pointcrow fairly recently did it during a blind black and white playthrough. Although it could have been Smallant as I tend to misremember who did which challenges.
I've seen these in later games but they're always dependent on endeavor, destiny bond, and held items, etc. This was a unique version of those challenges and incredibly well planned and executed. Super entertaining
Regarding Leech Seed on Level 5: Unevolved Pokémon can have Moves they learn through Level-up already when hatching from an Egg. For that to work, both Parents need to know the move you want.
@@MrEnte3000 No that's not true. If you've played Gen 2 it's actually not the case. t's even stated in pokemon stadium 2. Any moves the baby is capable of learning that it can learn come from the male. According to bulbapedia what you're saying is correct. But back when i had gen 2 it seemed to come from the male and pokemon stadium 2 didn't state about both parents needing to know a level up move to pass it on
@@thatyellowfellow Yes, it IS true. You are conflating Level-up moves and Egg moves, moves that a Pokémon ONLY learns through breeding and NOT via Level-up.
@@MrEnte3000 Well you don't know but when i had a lapras i bred the levelled up male with a newly caught female and the baby knew hydro pump. As you can catch the lapras every friday in the cave. the female was level 15 so no, i'm not
The ending to this video was incredible. How fitting that it was your Level 5 Starter taking down his fully evolved Level 65 Starter despite the crazy level difference and type disadvantage.
Anyone else still do The Count's voice in your head when watching Jrose? lol One Dragon Rage ha ha ha Two Dragon Rage ha ha ha Three Dragon Rage ha ha ha 😂
This challenge was bonkers. I didn't even know how much I needed this in my life. At some point, I'd love to see a "leave no ass unkicked" challenge: how quickly could you defeat every single trainer in the game in gen 1?
You have completely changed my mind about the utility of Dragon Rage. My favorite thing about Red and Blue is how you can turn what seem to be useless moves into run-changing keys to victory. Great video!
Lorelei: "Hey uh, guys? There's some kid here with a bunch of really weak pokemon, can someone tell him to go away?" Bruno: "Me handle this." *10 minutes later* Bruno, spinning off into orbit: "Me blasting off again."
This was fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to do something different. I can't imagine how many permutations you went through to figure this out but having the level-5 starting Charmander as the only Pokemon left up at the end for the rival fight was breathtakingly poetic. :D
"There isn't a single Pokémon that can learn Leech Seed at level 5." Since you're using Gen 2, you can breed any Pokémon that have Leech Seed as a level up move, and the baby will have the move if both parents have it. Both Bulbasaur and Exeggcute can have it and they both have sleeping moves and Substitute.
I was screaming "no way" when I realised Charmander was gonna make it through Blastoise, this was so good, between you and Scott's Thoughts there's some really cool gen 1 content out there now
Whoa...I tried this about a year ago with a Lv 5 Mewtwo that COULD level up and barely won. Only Jrose would attempt (and succeed at) something this whacky.
Good for exploiting the "Good" AI there. And that's also the beauty with Dragon Rage. 40HP fixed damage can still be very useful in situations where you have nothing else powerful enough to knock out Pokemon. And in a Level 5 Challenge this is pretty much needed as that is literally the most powerful attack you can ever breed to give for level 5 pokemon!
i think leech seed might have been more optimal for the elite four here on tangela because it isn’t a persistent status effect; it likely would have saved some ranges for dragon rage
I can't believe the Bruno fight. I'm starting to feel sorry for that guy. On the other hand, I've seen over 50 of RBY runs and I just learned about the confusion glitch. This game could not be more broken (and i love it for that).
If you're behind a Substitute and take confusion damage, it's applied to the opponent's Substitute. I forgot the exact reasoning, but I remember finding this out on Pokemon Showdown. If there's no Substitute to apply damage to, it just...doesn't happen. So your Substitute will never break as a result of confusion damage.
Damn, that was a good run. I was expecting a full run of the game (I didn’t read the title all the way) but even the elite 4 was just awesome to see taken down so handily
Now this one is just too ridiculous to even imagine until having watched the video and seeing it done. I thought all the solo runs and such were impressive enough already but I still didn't expect to see the title of this video in my subscriptions feed regardless of all the runs I've watched you complete so far. Can't help but feel compelled to congratulate you for achieving something as absurd as this one was.
That glitch is pretty hilarious from a programming perspective! Must have been something like 'Okay, to code this substitute thing we just have to make its number count down instead of whichever Pokémon is being attacked. Oh no wait, what about poison or burn damage? Ehh, this is getting too complicated. Oh! We can just code it based on who's *dealing* the damage instead! I mean it's not like there are any moves where the Pokémon hurts itself as long as we account for moves like High Jump Kick and Struggle."
Leech Seed actually would've been available to you. If you breed two Pokémon that both know a move that the offspring would get by leveling up, it'll hatch knowing that move.
Really enjoyed this video. Doing a few other challenge formats to break things up and keep it fresh sounds fun! Thanks as always for the great content.
Mad love your way, Jrose. I love all your challenge vids; solo runs are always great, but the other content you release is always amazing too. Definitely one of my favorite channels to relax and unwind with, and I hope you know how much we all appreciate you
There is something to be said about how great those old Pokemon games were seeing as how we are still enjoying the games and content on these games today years later. Great vid Jrose.
I was holding out for Charmander's Swords Dance to come in clutch somehow haha. But this was super awesome, regardless! I feel like playing Gen 1 this way turns it into a really unique and interesting puzzle to try to untangle a solution out of. Awesome job, man.
It never ceases to amaze me with how crazy your challenges are, but you make them happen with so much thought put into it. Plus, the way you talk makes this even more interesting. Love your content Jrose!
I saw someone do a video on winning with a level 5 Mewtwo, so I thought it would be something like that, was pleasantly surprised this involved no Mewtwo and was with no exp gain, so you actually were strictly level 5 only. It's very nice you didn't use Shift mode either. Also you could have gotten Leech Seed by breeding two pokemon that know it in Gen 2, where then the offspring would have had it at level 5. Since you were already taking advantage of Gen 2 tradebacks with stuff like having a level 5 Lapras knowing Sing and Tangela having Confusion at all, this should have been acceptable for the challenge, though it proved to not be necessary.
You continue to impress us with your amazing strategy and commentary. Honestly one of the only people who can make every gen 1 run intriguing to the end
I love your videos so much. I like your commentary, and how level your voice is. The videos are exciting but never loud. So they're actually very calming to watch! I really enjoy that you mention the technical aspects of certain things, how this works, why you chose this strategy, etc. I enjoy watching them but because they're not loud I'll also sometimes just put them on for nice, non distracting background noise. Always very enjoyable!
Found out about your channel and started binging your vids like 3 days ago. Good stuff man. Makes for some pretty interesting chill content to put on while I do some work.
When behind a substitute, your confusion damage is inflicted upon the opponent’s substitute. If it doesnt have one, nothing actually happens. Maybe after the damage is inflicted on the opponents sub, it then checks the health of the sub, which is obviously 0 already, and then perceives that the sub mustve broken, hence the text mentioning it
Whenever I thought about it, I imagined this challenge would be the easiest because of how easy it is to manipualte the E4's ai. However, it kind of surprised me that there is a somewhat difficult aspect to planning out your movesets, since they're so limited in generation 1. Like PointCrow's level 1 team for the Black and White Elite Four, it essentially swept through with ease because of endeavor, sandstorm, and soothe bell.
You didn’t ‘outspeed’ the Hitmonchan. After certain status move’s effect, such as paralysis (when it say so and so is fully paralyzed) you get the next move regardless of speed. Anyway, this is incredible, sure it only took you 30 minutes, but you dreamt it up over a year, very cool!
I'm pretty sure that's not true and the most likely explanation is that Hitmonchan was going for Counter which has negative priority and would always go last in that case.
I read the title and thought you were pulling my leg, and that this was some sort of April Fools joke, but nope… Jrose you are insane, and I can’t believe you actually pulled off something like this. Kudos
When I saw this video initially in my sub box I was like "...ehhhhh..." but this was exciting, thrilling, and more than anything else, FUN. Thank you for the great content :)
Since I’ve been watching your channel I have learned so much about Gen 1 POKéMON. I can’t thank you enough for what you do and how much you have inspired me to learn more about the game series I grew up with. Your passion is contagious. Keep being you mate thanks again!
Good to have another video from you Jrose!! I remember first stumbling onto your channel and was so happy to find someone that appreciates the Pokemon game as much as I do. Good to have you back man!!
Amazing :D You can actually get leech seed at lvl 5, but I'm not sure what it would do to the AI as you'd need to use Exeggcute instead of Tangela. With some careful breeding you can hatch Exeggcute with Leech Seed, Sleep Powder, Toxic and confusion :D
Likewise, he could get Bulbasaur with Leech Seed, Toxic, and Sleep Powder, and teach it Substitute, and Poison is always good typing for screwing with the smart AI.
Leech seed actually *was* available to you at level 5 since you were breeding your Pokémon in gen 2. Not sure if it’s still a thing in later gens, but in gen 2 at least, if both parents know a move that the baby can learn as a level up move, the baby will hatch knowing that move. I had a level 5 cyndiquill with flamethrower using this method back in the day. Using this method, you could have had a bulbasaur with sleep powder and leech seed. You could also have had exeggcute, but bulbasaur’s poison typing is more useful with good ai.
This was great. Big respect for this video. The one questuon I have is, did you actually breed all the pokemon and just got the tms via missingno or did you actually just create the team? This would be interesting to me because you actually talked about the option you had for making this team legitimately and I think it would not be out of reach for you to just do that
Both, I could not find a way to get the saves to interact (I used an everdrive). I think I've figured out the issue so I might be able to do this in the future with the actual Pokemon I bred.
Fantastic idea for a video Jrose, and you executed your strategy perfectly! I didn't think it you'd be able to pull it off so easily without later gen moves (Endeavor), but your 2 years of strategizing sure paid off!
5:43 You double-counted the turn the pokémon wakes up here. The actual amount of turns a pokémon is asleep is 0-6 turns (it can wake up on the turn it falls asleep) but after factoring in the turn where the pokémon wakes up, it becomes 1-7.
You are forgetting that since all the lvl 5 pokemon are slower, the enemy pokemon can never wake up on the turn it was put to sleep. So it would be the turn put to sleep (1), and the next turn waking up (2).
This run was a fun one. I didn't think it was even possible. It's kinda cool that this was a run that didn't need any badge boosting. ...That said, how fast can you beat the game using Missingno.?
Regarding the Leech Seed tidbit at the end, couldn't you have bred an Exeggcute with Leech Seed + Sleep Powder + Toxic + Substitute? Or was that not a legal combination?
Yes it gotta be possible. There are some weird mechanics regarding inherited moves I just looked up and didn't know for sure until rn (just knew there was some mechanics since I bred for Little Cup in Stadium 2 back in time). Apparently it depends on the evo-line how many moves the baby will have (2 for most species), PLUS certain regular moves from the father under certain conditions. It will always inherit egg moves, the father's gen2-TM-moves if learnable and regular level up moves IF mom+dad both have it. So yes according to the guide I found lvl 5 leech seed Exeggcute, Bulbasaur and others should be possible. Don't know how it's nowadays though, didn't breed much since then tbh
@@Crusina As cmck said, Jrose11 was using bred Pokémon from Gold/Silver/Crystal through tradeback. It is stated on the video. It wouldn't have made sense that Jrose had Lv5 Tangela with Sleep Powder or Dratini with Supersonic otherwise
