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Emmanuel Acho, LeSean McCoy, Joy Taylor, and Ric Bucher discuss whether Kevin Durant’s legacy is unfairly criticized in the NBA. Joy weighs in on KD’s situation and explains he has reached a point where he has realized he only needs to live and play for himself. The group then debate what KD would have to do to quiet his critics.
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 Год назад
Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT
@KingPiercter
@KingPiercter Год назад
Bro ppl wouldnt be discrediting him if we won a chip on okc or brooklyn. Acho is the only one on here that gets it
@123456CBOY
@123456CBOY Год назад
My problem was him going to the team that came back n beat him to me it didn't matter it was golden state or not
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
That makes as much sense as if Acho discredited Klay, Dray, and Steph for not winning a chip by themselves elsewhere. It's hard enough winning a chip without randoms who have won nothing talking as if they've done something.
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
Acho needed a ghost writer for his book! Does that mean the NY Times' accolades don't count? Are those book sales fake? Should he write his own book before we give him credit? We saw KD do work. We didn't see Acho writing. 🤔 Think about that‼️
@MaliKali-po9su
@MaliKali-po9su Год назад
@@joyce2680 acho used a ghostwriter???
@Spoonky92
@Spoonky92 Год назад
"KD always delivered " Are we forgetting his 3-1 loss? Last years performance against the Celtics?
@kbdemonbain4568
@kbdemonbain4568 Год назад
add blowing the 3-1 lead on those said warriors he joined in 2016
@levidobbs3047
@levidobbs3047 Год назад
@@kbdemonbain4568are you slow? He literally already said that
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
Are you forgetting LeBron's not so veiled overtures toward the Warriors, Steph in particular?
@rickylukecage4215
@rickylukecage4215 Год назад
Lebron was trying to recruit steph because he was available for free agency the following year and steph stay 10 toes down.
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
@@rickylukecage4215 LeBron courted Steph, a Warrior, who beat LBJ's Cavs 3 out 4 Championships. Mind you this was when LBJ was moving to Lakers after overtures to Warriors failed.
@TameOJ
@TameOJ Год назад
KD is absolutely NOT unfairly criticized. It's all fair, much like with every other superstar. Both on and off the court is in the line of fire. It comes with the territory. Behavior towards media is also criticized. He claims it's unfair because he dug himself a hole too deep. Had he not gotten snippy at golden state after two rings and then continued to be so, more than likely the criticism wouldn't be nearly as bad, but it still wouldn't be unfair.
@bamboosho0t
@bamboosho0t Год назад
I think it's blowback from the LeBron/media aura. Where everything he does has to be scrutinized with the finest toothed comb. Joining a team that beat his team up 3-1...👀 If LeBron lost to Golden State and joined them, we'd never hear the end of it. The criticism is fair on a micro level, but his individual greatness is set.
@josephbryant1666
@josephbryant1666 Год назад
Lebron losing to an all time great team in warriors don’t compare to kd losing to them blowing a lead people in general try to say weird arguments to discredit him already but all the criticism is fair the only rings he’s gotten was with the warriors but y’all use kd as an argument to discredit steph even though he won before with him and after y’all will give kd all the flowers even though he literally ain’t have to earned them any good small toward coulda replace kd at that spot and the outcome woulda been the same
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
​@@josephbryant1666 The Warriors were up 3-1 when LeBron blew up their world! THEN PUT ON "THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR" TEE SHIRT‼️They ran after KD. LeBron wanted KD and Kawhi to go to the Lakers and help him win more rings! No one's talking about that.
@maxindeed1
@maxindeed1 Год назад
Man don’t nobody defend KD more than the Media
@gmurder13905
@gmurder13905 Год назад
Huhhhh lol no they don’t
@tydolla1034
@tydolla1034 Год назад
Who lied bro lmaooo
@miminoran8948
@miminoran8948 Год назад
Lol sense when
@thetarheel2010j
@thetarheel2010j Год назад
Facts 😂😂😂 he doesn’t get near the criticism that LeBron gets
@ThePlatinumGame
@ThePlatinumGame Год назад
I mean why the criticism tho? Everybody knows he moves to the best of his own drum. Yea we expect more from a player with his talent. But he’ll never have the career to equate that. So why bother talking about it.
@locoadan1999
@locoadan1999 Год назад
Acho was preaching in this segment! My god. We can’t just ignore how KD went to gsw lol that’s literally like lebron going to the celtics after they beat him 😭
@nobleskywalker4639
@nobleskywalker4639 Год назад
Thank you!!! Cause people use the Heat comparison and I'm like I'm sorry the Heat were 5th in the East and were eliminates in the first round. They weren't the team with 73 wins and got to the finals
@itshiho
@itshiho Год назад
Prince James started in all...
@itshiho
@itshiho Год назад
@@nobleskywalker4639 73 wins means nothing. They never even won 70 games with KD. Prince James lovers were just butthurt that they couldn't beat them and they only want LeBron to be able to stack the deck with star players.
@dooniegragg4924
@dooniegragg4924 Год назад
@@itshihoexactly
@mreams1873
@mreams1873 Год назад
As someone who lived in the OKC market he didn't perform well in big games on a regular basis. Maybe it was the coaching, Russ, or something else going on but he wasn't able to consistently play well too many 8 foot jumpers clanging when he was open. OKC isn't the easiest place to live for someone from DC and maybe it impacted his play
@blazerthedon
@blazerthedon Год назад
Acho was cooking !!!!💯
@PREEZYDAKID
@PREEZYDAKID Год назад
Acho laid out and iron-clad argument with this one 💯
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
Not at all. Just bias with misleading data. Don't be fooled or foolish. Even his boy, Shady rejected his premise.
@gs3635
@gs3635 Год назад
KD replaced Harrison Barnes and Rick acting like they lost the whole roster 😂
@jvtopflight796
@jvtopflight796 Год назад
Replace Barnes Bogut gone and the Bench.. Dude go look at 73 roster Vs KD GS roster.. Clear difference
@Atlantafan21
@Atlantafan21 Год назад
@@jvtopflight796 Bogut and Barnes are the only two players that left that played any sort of significant minutes. Sorta Barbosa. KD replacing those guys pretty clearly is still a massive improvement. The two key bench players were Iggy and Livingston and both those guys were still on the team, and Zaza replaced Bogut.
@jvtopflight796
@jvtopflight796 Год назад
@@Atlantafan21 You just name four players lol.. That's not a simple Barnes for KD swap.. That's 2 STARTERS and 2 key bench guys lol
@Atlantafan21
@Atlantafan21 Год назад
@@jvtopflight796 I named 3 players, 2 starters and one bench player who wasn’t that significant. I said they KEPT their two key bench players in Livingston and Iggy. KD is light years better than Barnes, who happened to be a big reason as to why they lost to the cavs in the first place. Zaza basically replaced Boguts production. Every other player change was inconsequential. They basically kept their top 5 players while adding in a top 5 player in the league and a big man that filled in fine for the only other hole.
@2zdaysound473
@2zdaysound473 Год назад
Acho the only one making sense 😂 rare w
@justogmula4627
@justogmula4627 Год назад
KD is legit the most protected super star ever to be honest 😂
@kelseywalker2342
@kelseywalker2342 Год назад
Not a bad roster to roll with over the years 6 or 7 hall of famers
@armaniax1120
@armaniax1120 Год назад
The media does every slick move possible to discredit Steph lol
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 Год назад
That is why I don't pay attention to these so called experts all they I'd find time to make up nonsense to talk about
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 Год назад
Steph have not done anything outside the Warriors core and depth.
@andrewhudson7092
@andrewhudson7092 Год назад
@@damianpresha9833 well he’s never played for a different organization… so that’s a dumb statement
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 Год назад
@@andrewhudson7092 It's not cause he's been there the longest and they have been hurt at different points. He's still never been able to lift the team without them being present.
@bobbypinkston9374
@bobbypinkston9374 Год назад
Steph has been crowned the greatest 3ball shooter of all time and is pretty universally considered top 20 all time. But He’s never taken a bad team on a run and he’s been hurt a lot, and I think that takes a bit away. I got no hate for Steph, but o think he’s the media’s darling
@trechasin
@trechasin Год назад
Steph & Lebron got criticized while meeting in the finals every year KD doesn’t get criticized enough if you ask me
@Smartboi302
@Smartboi302 Год назад
Lol they skipped & hopped right over that point
@Youngnice314
@Youngnice314 Год назад
Facts
@ScoKnows
@ScoKnows Год назад
The man KD went from saying on twitter he’d never leave okc and “I just wanna hoop” To Not caring about his legacy I’m dead
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
The word legacy is overworked and misused. Anyone talking about KD'S legacy just spits out that "latest thing to say". KD is still alive; most of the folks talking about HIS LEGACY don't know him and have no active part in it. Why do you care? Just watch him work and either enjoy or don't. He's doing his heart's passion. What's your legacy? Do you speak on YOURS? Make YOURS. Don't confuse your opinions of KD as being KD's legacy. That's your arrogance in play.
@YasharKhanah
@YasharKhanah Год назад
What was omitted was that he joined a team that he was up 3-1 on in the playoffs, and a win away from the finals. He literally joined the team that beat him. He couldn't beatem so he joined them.
@Youngnice314
@Youngnice314 Год назад
Everyone that’s ok with that decision always omit that part of the situation and I don’t understand why. Losing a 3-1 lead is a big part of the problem with this situation for most people. As a competitor that mindset is hard to fathom.
@ichabodcraen
@ichabodcraen Год назад
Man it's hard to hear shady speak over Durant in his mouth
@frankyng4159
@frankyng4159 Год назад
hes speaking facts. Durant is one of the best. He doesnt have to prove anything. Making millions and also have his own shoes. People like to nitpick at the greats such as Lebron. People don't want to see Lebron passing Jordan as the GOAT.
@hanspatmpouma1183
@hanspatmpouma1183 Год назад
KD wanted to be loved like LeBron but he didn't have the same degree of difficulty for his chips like bron.
@gmurder13905
@gmurder13905 Год назад
Miami chips weren’t difficult
@hanspatmpouma1183
@hanspatmpouma1183 Год назад
@@gmurder13905 yes they were not but KD chips were easier than LeBron miami.
@loaded730
@loaded730 Год назад
@@gmurder13905 beating kd and an all time great spurs team weren’t difficult?
@OscarUnrated
@OscarUnrated Год назад
who said he wanted to be loved like lebron? His actions say otherwise. Lebron is also one of the most hated
@hanspatmpouma1183
@hanspatmpouma1183 Год назад
@@OscarUnrated when KD made his move he said (l'm summarizing): "if we want to blame him we should do bron". So the déduction is that he did like bron thinking it shouldn't be an issue. Since bron is loved for going to win with miami he should get the same love.
@francismath-osagie6630
@francismath-osagie6630 Год назад
Acho just graduated! I don’t know from what but when you one vs three in this argument and your smoking d three all the way like that ?
@kelseywalker2342
@kelseywalker2342 Год назад
It’s strange, probably because hockey is such a team game but I never remember these conversations when ray bourque finally won with the aves or Hossa with Chicago etc
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
We never hear about hockey, soccer before or since the World Cup, baseball - all team sports. They just regurgitate the same stuff. Very lazy and boring!
@khele2k
@khele2k Год назад
Ray Bourque played 22 season on bad Bruins teams. He was the captain and the best player. His dedication and class was respected throughout the league and community. At the time the only teams winning Cups were the Red Wings and the Avalanche. Ray was traded in his 22nd year at the trade deadline to Colorado to finally win a Cup. They failed, then succeeded the next year, and Ray Bourque retired. Comparing his dedication to the Bruins vs Durant's leaving every time it gets hard is quite different if you ask me.
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 11 месяцев назад
@@khele2k You missed the point. Hockey is considered one of the four major sports. Yet coverage is negligible. Sports shows cover the same teams and players, saying the same thing over and over again. For the salary that they make they should do better and we should demand better from them.
@user-xv1sr3uy7p
@user-xv1sr3uy7p Год назад
Kd had kyrie on his team & got swept by the Celtics !!!!! Why no one talk about it more
@swervingg
@swervingg Год назад
warriors won a title before durant, warriors won a title after durant. the only time durant has won a title has been on the warriors, & practically any superstar could've joined that same team & had the same result. if he wins a title without joining the best team in the league, then he can get his props. until then, he deserves all the criticism in my opinion.
@josephbryant1666
@josephbryant1666 Год назад
Been saying this and the same people that criticize steph for losing didn’t keep that same energy with kd and on top of that tried to give him all the credit for winning even though warriors simplified everything he needed to do Wiggins is a prime example everyone was calling him a bust warriors get him he instantly becomes one of the best 2 way players while shoot long threes at a high clip .. then steph goes on to dominate a team who kyrie and kd couldn’t get a game from
@cd7314
@cd7314 Год назад
Unless kd pull a lebron and go back to okc and win a ring, he’ll never do enough. Every time he’ll choose a team that’s already ready made and experienced.
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 Год назад
and this right here is proving his point. Well done.
@a27dub
@a27dub Год назад
At this point its too late he couldve did it with Brooklyn but now its over. He has to deal with it now.....
@football8829
@football8829 Год назад
KD is nothing without Steph. You can tell the story of the NBA without KD, but you can’t without Steph
@FuRawRee
@FuRawRee 4 месяца назад
"Hello!" Get em shady 😂😂
@user-gi7ec6ss7t
@user-gi7ec6ss7t Год назад
Lesean McCoy up here talking about competition and being a killer. A killer was up 3-1 on a 73 win team in the west finals, blew it, and joined that same team in the offseason??? That ain’t no killer. That’s an insecure man.
@brandoncalero6072
@brandoncalero6072 8 месяцев назад
KD haters try to diminish the great things he’s done, went to the finals in his early 20s, was in the western conference finals basically every year he was healthy on the Thunder. The West at that time was far more heavily stacked than the East. KD has been the best player on every team he’s been on and he’s played for a few great teams
@CarSportsTalk
@CarSportsTalk Год назад
Shady calling kd "God" 🤦‍♂️ should replace him/bring back dave asap 😂
@dmvo_johnny7648
@dmvo_johnny7648 Год назад
Mr. Glass without a hairbrush
@tnicc78_
@tnicc78_ Год назад
I wished people defended Bron like this
@jctslice
@jctslice Год назад
No. LeBron is the guy who gets unfairly criticized. No matter what, it's never enough. If he wins, there's always an excuse why he won. If he loses, he gets destroyed no matter the circumstances. It's excuses for why he wins and no context for losses. KD gets just as much excuses as criticism. It's nothing BUT criticism for LeBron
@c.jfuego2829
@c.jfuego2829 Год назад
lebron was carrying a bunch of role players with no second star in 2018 and was getting crucified like crazy but KD got swept against the celtics and it was swept under the rug so i completely agree with you
@soulreaperfred
@soulreaperfred Год назад
Bro you cooking rn bc everybody talks about how LeBron 4-6 in finals when you take time to realize the teams he DRAGGED to the finals would be lottery teams without him
@fastlaneyp
@fastlaneyp Год назад
The lebron that hasn't done more than MJ but many call him the GOAT anyway gets too much criticism? He's number 1 or 2 on everyone's list. He gets plenty of credit. Criticism comes with greatness period
@chrishaughton3988
@chrishaughton3988 Год назад
The Media talk negative about LBJ an KD what they gonna talk about once they retired
@jctslice
@jctslice Год назад
​@@fastlaneyp bro, what media you watching lol like 70% of people call MJ the GOAT, not LeBron. Some even have the nerve to put KOBE above him lmao. Only the EXTREME LeBron fans really go out of their way to call bron the GOAT. Most others don't
@stansmith8158
@stansmith8158 8 месяцев назад
Kevin Durant is definately one of the basketball gods
@blackhippywill
@blackhippywill Год назад
Acho SMOKED this segment!
@user-ud2nz4wo2b
@user-ud2nz4wo2b Год назад
If he doesn’t want to be talked about greatness. Then he should be payed like one. If you’re demanding to be paid like you’re the best then this is what comes with it.
@sonikspeed19
@sonikspeed19 Год назад
The problem with KD is he keeps yapping about how he's a god and hinting that he's the best player ever and so on. That's why people criticize him harshly. If he just said "I'm a great player" nobody would mind that. But putting yourself at the pinnacle of basketball means you're gonna get all the smoke and it's completely fair.
@mr.o5577
@mr.o5577 Год назад
I've never heard KD say that ever
@miltmoise7917
@miltmoise7917 Год назад
Acho was spittin' facts here.
@NevadaJohn1
@NevadaJohn1 Год назад
I miss Marcellus
@killakam8738
@killakam8738 Год назад
All y'all are disconnected af from reality. Nobody judges KD for JUST leaving Russ. He gets judged for leaving Russ because he sat there and told Russ literally, "its alright bro, we'll get them next year" and then jumped ship to them. It's calling Russ your BROTHER and then leaving him high and dry. Nobody told KD to call Russ his brother, nobody told KD to tell Russ on live TV that they were gunna get them next year. Nobody but you guys in the media, your friends not ours, roast him for leaving GSW. We 5 him because he said he wanted to build and lead his own team. His own words, nobody told him say that. But yet choose Kyrie to run with and let Kyrie run the show when he said he wanted to run it, which was why he was there. Now he's getting roasted for going to PHX because he failed to lead or even step up to lead in BKN, so instead, he wants to jump to a ready-made team again.
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp Год назад
What can Kevin Durant do? Just lead a team ffs, dude is supposed to be an all time great yet he couldn’t lead a team to a brothel. Without Steph holding his hand what is he?
@TitusLennon
@TitusLennon Год назад
Acho is a really good debater lol
@kelseywalker2342
@kelseywalker2342 Год назад
11:30 wtf is he talking about they lost a lot of pieces, ya bench guys they kept steph,klay,green,iguadola all still there
@brandoncalero6072
@brandoncalero6072 8 месяцев назад
Y’all hate on KD unfairly. All you focus on are his shortcomings, but he has many crazy accomplishments and just from the eye test alone he is a top 5 player ever
@blackanimelover18
@blackanimelover18 Год назад
Kevin Durant can't even begin to understand "unfair" criticism. We all know who's REALLY unfairly criticized, and KD doesn't even get 1/10th the amount of hate he does.
@peteypablo8483
@peteypablo8483 Год назад
If KD always answers the bell, what happened against Boston last year when they got swept? 🤔
@Perin78
@Perin78 Год назад
He says he does not want to be a leader that in my book says a lot about him
@Keithwilsonjr757
@Keithwilsonjr757 Год назад
Everyone is not cut out to be a leader tho
@Perin78
@Perin78 Год назад
@@Keithwilsonjr757 Yes but all the greats did not run from it Jordan, Bird, Kobe the list goes on
@Perin78
@Perin78 Год назад
@@Keithwilsonjr757 This is something straight out of KD's mouth he said he doesn't want to be a leader he just want to play ball. That to me took him out of the running to be considered one of the greats
@ThinkingCrypto
@ThinkingCrypto Год назад
What alot of people miss is that MJ as the GOAT set a high standard and many people use that as a blueprint. LeBron, KD and other players get criticized fairly and unfairly by this standard. Context is important, people remember stories so KD's story is flawed compared to an MJ even though he is an all time great. Lebrons was flawed too until he went back to cleveland and made it right and won the hearts and respect of many who hated him.
@showtime2454
@showtime2454 Год назад
That Cleveland ring helped lebron a lot
@ThinkingCrypto
@ThinkingCrypto Год назад
@@showtime2454 yup
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 Год назад
Mj played decades ago there was no way subsequent generations were going to follow his blueprint. It would be like asking jordon live up to meet Bill Russel standard when both men faced different competition the landscape was different under different rules , hence why the standard automatically changes from era to era. In other words what worked in the 90s wont necessarily work today .
@showtime2454
@showtime2454 Год назад
@@ryanr20091 I go by era's MJ 90s Kobe 2000s Lebron 2010s MJ the overall goat in my opinion I didn't watch Bill Russell 11 💍
@showtime2454
@showtime2454 Год назад
@@ryanr20091 MJ would average 45 a game in today's NBA
@daabsolutetruetv
@daabsolutetruetv Год назад
Lebron doesn’t get these same excuses that the media makes for Kd people need to stop that
@IFHA23
@IFHA23 Год назад
I have to admit I hated KD his whole career. Then I started watching him on podcast and I really like this dude. He's smart AF. And seems really chill. Just seems like he doesn't play any bs.
@itshiho
@itshiho Год назад
All Prince James lovers hate KD because he destroyed Prince James two finals in a row. Prince James lovers also hate Kyrie, Kobe and MJ, can't stand you clowns.
@ryankayombya7576
@ryankayombya7576 Год назад
I loved him in okc. "The real mvp" period. Then he joined gsw and I lost all respect lol. Steph vs Bron rivalry was going to propel the league forward too
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
​@@ryankayombya7576 There was no Steph vs Bron rivalry. It was Bron vs Warriors, especially when the Warriors were up 3-1, then lost. Why aren't ppl saying the Splash Bros and Dray's 2 rings with KD are bogus???
@andrewhudson7092
@andrewhudson7092 Год назад
@@joyce2680 idiot it was cavs vs warriors…
@TheMiketru
@TheMiketru Год назад
Where's David Helman? He hasn't been on the show for weeks?
@rossdevers9478
@rossdevers9478 Год назад
It's simple. He took the easy way out. Let's not forget he had the ability to have a say in personnel in OKC and he decided not to be loyal and jump ship to the team that bounced him out of the playoffs the previous year. He was getting left behind in the conversations and as fragile as his mind is, did the most desperate thing he could think of and had an easy trip to the Finals for validation. That doesn't sit well with fans, he tried to copycat LeBron in order to increase his legacy but it did the exact opposite, it questioned his legacy, not to mention the train wreck that the Brooklyn Nets became when the franchise gave a player who's never been a leader and has no team building acumen all the power they could. That's why he's criticized. It's not questioning his ability, it's questioning is his superstar status legitimate or not. He's a great player but does he belong in the conversations of the greatest in the modern era..
@stansmith8158
@stansmith8158 8 месяцев назад
Kd is my favorite player . The way I always looked at his his negative critism is I think most of the world knows wat he is capable because his natural scoring ability so abythjng less than perfect they hate on him
@brandoncalero6072
@brandoncalero6072 8 месяцев назад
If you factor out injuries, KD would have far more accolades and likely another 2 rings
@diegobromfield
@diegobromfield Год назад
Acho swept the table.
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 Год назад
the bucs literally had two pro bowl caliber wr& a top 10 defense but nobody points that out
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder Год назад
Exactly!!! 👊👊✊✊👏👏 Because it's Tom Brady. 🙄🙄😒😒😑😑
@NK-qx6kk
@NK-qx6kk Год назад
How many great teams win without good qb? Look at 2012 Chicago Bears. No one says his teammates were bums without him, football is a team sport, but Qb is the centerpiece. It takes players like Brady, Montana, Mahomes to win repeatedly. Before Brady helped Bucks become champions, all the media talking head said it's all Belichick's mastermind and you can put anyone with Patriots and still win, now are more in agreement that Brady is a big part of that legacy.
@jfacts192
@jfacts192 Год назад
Every great players in the top 15, and 10 get criticized all the time. That’s how we separate and rank these players. KD replaced Harrison Barnes on the 73 win Warriors team. Which made them unbeatable. Remember that KD Thunders were up 1-3 vs Golden State in the western Conference Finals and KD ended up choking in the WCF against the Warriors. The next season he joins the team that beat him in the previous year in the playoffs. If you can’t beat them, you joins them.
@iamlosthere
@iamlosthere Год назад
If you take in the compliments, you also need to take the criticisms. What's to not get? People are talking about their career as an NBA player, not their personality.
@crxssv2316
@crxssv2316 Год назад
people are just haters in general, it still bothers me that cp3 gets absolutely no love from the fans or the media, he’s an all time PG and people judge him for not having a ring, how many greats were there without a ring, savage 21 ALOT.
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp Год назад
Wait, so people should all just be dickriders??
@cd7314
@cd7314 Год назад
He literally didn’t answer the bell LAST SEASON, the man got swept and had the worst performance of his life! You can’t call a player so individually great but then refuse to hold them to the same standard as every other great player, which is being able to lead a team, he hasn’t done that.
@Hopkins8564
@Hopkins8564 Год назад
This time around Acho got off!
@jvtopflight796
@jvtopflight796 Год назад
GS before KD won because Bron had Delly as his 2nd best player.. So we just gone ignore that 🤣🤣
@victoregglestonn4166
@victoregglestonn4166 10 месяцев назад
For one wend he went to the warriors they only keep 3 starters..and two bench players...
@johnnyvansguard869
@johnnyvansguard869 Год назад
Shady finally made a decent take
@ceasorbennett924
@ceasorbennett924 Год назад
My man acho was on one Yessirski 😎📈
@mackhook
@mackhook Год назад
The problem is we are in a era where top 10 players and alphas move from team to team where this didn't happen much 30 years ago. It's the players prerogative and I am not a fan but it's the time we're in now. When you're arguably the best player in the league, you should attract the best role players to you, but like I said that was our day. He'll be ok. Great individual talent, not much of a team leader as is the case with many of this generations best players.
@wyntonlancaster6737
@wyntonlancaster6737 Год назад
The only knock on KD is that he has ALWAYS been on a super team. Okc with harden, Russ and ibaka was a super team too but every player has something to minimize their achievements
@anthonyblakely399
@anthonyblakely399 Год назад
Agree with all of you!!! K D needs to do what he does...and may the chips fall where they fall. Just be and DO KD!!!! For get about the rest....all of who are criticizing ain;t on the court!!!! Bottomline!!!
@nathanforsyth7963
@nathanforsyth7963 Год назад
Problem with achos argument is if kd joined the nuggets would that be the same because they have the best record but almost nobody sees them as the best team
@madhavrajesh8812
@madhavrajesh8812 Год назад
KD is an all time great player, but he’s kinda stuck in the top 15ish range (14th or 15th) until he proves that he can win as the leader, when LeBron won his 2 chips in Miami, his legacy wasn’t cemented yet. He had to be the leader AND best player to cement his legacy and leapfrog other greats. Same with KD, if he did what LeBron did in Cleveland and LA, he may climb the all time great ladder significantly. We know KD’s struggles without GSW, 2013 WCSF vs Memphis was a bad series and shot 36% from the field and 67% from the FT Line. 2016 was the 3-1 series chokejob against GSW, and then last year in 2022, KD was terrible against Boston and got swept?
@GEECHIE_LYFE_SPORTZ_TAWK
@GEECHIE_LYFE_SPORTZ_TAWK Год назад
Joy got a strong face....
@DeeMeechie
@DeeMeechie Год назад
Thank you everyone except Acho knew what they were talking Abt ppl say that KD went w/o mentioning the fact that the flew to KD's crib begging him to join like come on now KD was the best player on their team then and I hope he gets a chance to see them in the playoffs 🙏🏽 he'll annihilate gsw 💯
@Youngnice314
@Youngnice314 Год назад
After losing the 3-1 lead to GS his goal should have been to annihilate them. KD didn’t need them to be great they needed him. That’s why he get criticized. What he doing now is what he should have done in the first place.
@DeeMeechie
@DeeMeechie Год назад
@@Youngnice314 if KD when another chip outside of gsw I just don't know what else ppl could say shii would be pure hate at that point
@HegelianEpoch
@HegelianEpoch Год назад
no
@a27dub
@a27dub Год назад
Shady loss me with Kobe and Jordan being identical. KD knew what he was doing and no amount of shaming is gonna stop that. He will live his life and the debate will continue he will still be critcized. It is what it is..
@bidikb
@bidikb Год назад
I critize Acho but mans was in his element
@kobeobryant
@kobeobryant Год назад
Joys favourite word on this topic: suffering. Can‘t hear it anymore
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp Год назад
It’s because she formulate a coherent argument
@raymonddiaz2254
@raymonddiaz2254 Год назад
KD was the best player on the team because it was so easy for him to play on an already historically great team Steph and Klay made it easy for him to do his thing because they are already so dangerous you can’t leave them open. It was a cake walk and the softest move in nba history and most likely will be forever.
@joshuabailey2335
@joshuabailey2335 Год назад
So I guess it was easy for him in okc to because he put up basically the same numbers won 4 scoring titles and a mvp, your comment makes no sense it would make sense if he had mediocre numbers in okc and then his stats inflated in gs
@raymonddiaz2254
@raymonddiaz2254 Год назад
@@joshuabailey2335 he played with Russell Westbrook 6 man James harden and prime serge ibaka Kendrick Perkins Derick fisher and more sure he played with nobodies on that team too lmfao 🤣
@raymonddiaz2254
@raymonddiaz2254 Год назад
@@joshuabailey2335 plus Steph and klay don’t need the ball to be effective like Westbrook or harden, so yes it was a lot easier on the already 73-9 warriors
@joshuabailey2335
@joshuabailey2335 Год назад
@@raymonddiaz2254 once you inserted Kendrick Perkins and old Derek fisher in your argument you are just reaching now bro have good a good night
@joshuabailey2335
@joshuabailey2335 Год назад
@@raymonddiaz2254 and another thing you know for a fact Westbrook was not then what he eventually turned out to be so stop it
@jeffm7145
@jeffm7145 Год назад
I think a lot of the criticism comes down to the fact that he's surly and defensive
@KingPiercter
@KingPiercter Год назад
We comparing brady winning 6 superbowls in new england to kd winning on the warriors now? SMH
@ryanx2406
@ryanx2406 7 месяцев назад
We’ve always known it was shaq that carried Kobe 2k24 seems to have changed a narrative that has always been consistent.
@SirXPerfect
@SirXPerfect Год назад
He had everything he needed in Brooklyn this yr was actually looking good and boom. Blew it all up.
@armanabbasi3754
@armanabbasi3754 Год назад
who blew it up? just think about it again
@tonystonez5771
@tonystonez5771 Год назад
When you were up 3-1 to GS and then get beat by them and join them the next season what’d you expect
@ayrtoncurrie
@ayrtoncurrie Год назад
Listening to Shady defend KD and Kyrie is like listening to a trump supporter on how good trump is. The problem with listening to this is that you can literally become dumber.
@MilesBrownRoyalty
@MilesBrownRoyalty Год назад
The Warriors lost like 8 players to join the Warriors...that is NOT joining the 73 win team. It's a TOTALLY different team.
@pulliam318
@pulliam318 Год назад
I just wish this was Lebron to say he doesn’t care about his legacy
@ryanx2406
@ryanx2406 7 месяцев назад
Btw, look up a guy named Tom chambers just to answer Shady Mc’s question we’ve seen a player like Kd before he was a 6”10 white guy who played for phoenix who averaged 20-10 something Kd has never done in a season.
@nicobean5064
@nicobean5064 Год назад
No he not everything that’s happening the way it’s happening he deserves he got his championships with GSW but other than that it’s the same ole conversation
@kevinthomas6130
@kevinthomas6130 Год назад
What about that 3-1 lead kd had vs curry but everyone talk about the 3-1 lead in finals
@victorshavers6604
@victorshavers6604 Год назад
My main goals are to b good (hugs, love n encouragement) the young n to give yawl hope (a house) n to motivate (push yu to stand up for yurselves n others) yu all to hate yur foes who seek yur spot n yur very life.. VS 🆚 Team work makes tha dream work
@martinukpai7838
@martinukpai7838 Год назад
Love everything about KD.. love his upbringing, love his commitment to his craft, love his perspective. KD is a whole Blueprint!
@MrAdmvp
@MrAdmvp Год назад
KD is Steph’s ball boy
@martinukpai7838
@martinukpai7838 Год назад
@@MrAdmvp c'mon show some respect
@754LIFE
@754LIFE Год назад
Andy Reid is the best football coach of all time to me 🏈
@juansoto3779
@juansoto3779 Год назад
The facts is he shouldn't be nowhere near convos with the top because if we keeping it a buck the people at the top got more chips then him and just a better resume in general
@powertruth0776
@powertruth0776 10 месяцев назад
No Shady
@bigcohiba298
@bigcohiba298 Год назад
Can't want high praise without high criticism The Warriors won pre and post KD. Topic conclude. Now if he wins with Phoenix then the discussion is dead
@HeroicJei
@HeroicJei Год назад
Acho the only person that and slobbing on KD.
@gatekeepercoley
@gatekeepercoley Год назад
Good defense of KD by shady
@curtisnero7388
@curtisnero7388 Год назад
That lady is beautiful and she right about KD
@IHXHunter
@IHXHunter Год назад
acho is COOOKING
@MikkiChavez
@MikkiChavez Год назад
I find it funny trying to justify JD joining the Warriors, putting together the nets & joining the Suns.. Like what are we doing lmao
@Youngnice314
@Youngnice314 Год назад
Acho and Joy had great takes. All the questions Acho was asked he was spot on with his answers.
@Youngnice314
@Youngnice314 Год назад
RICK was all over the place.
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
@@Youngnice314 He had to be. Acho gives him little time, then interrupts Ric.
@joyce2680
@joyce2680 Год назад
Acho flip flops more than a fish out of water. So which spot on the floor was he "on".
@trumoomoo
@trumoomoo Год назад
So we’re all going to pretend we don’t know exactly what we expected from KD? Being as great as he is, we all thought at some point he would lead his own team to a championship. And he doesn’t get unfairly criticized. KD is universally recognized as an all-time great He just doesn’t get the same amount of credit as he would for leading a team as he does for winning rings on Steph Curry’s team he feels like he should get the same amount of credit and he’s wrong.
@tiG
@tiG Год назад
Why don't people ever think that if KD was in LeBron's Cavs team and LeBron was with the warriors, KD would never be able to win against GSW like LeBron won against them once.
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