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The funniest thing is that "Special summon an infinite number of materials and use to summon powerful generic extra deck monsters" is just the normal yugioh decks right now.

@0:20 Paul-Michel Foucault was a famous French philosopher that is often memed about because of his famous quote likening many modern structures of institution to prisons: “Is it surprising that the cellular prison, with its regular chronologies, forced labour, its authorities of surveillance and registration, its experts in normality, who continue and multiply the functions of the judge, should have become the modern instrument of penality? Is it surprising that prisons resemble factories, schools, barracks, hospitals, which all resemble prisons?” MBT is likening Yu-gi-oh Special Summoning, being an instrumental component of the social structure that is an average Yu-gi-oh game, to a prison, it is a very good joke, but not very inclusive to those that aren't at least tangentially familiar with Foucault.

Both Stevie and Joshua Schmidt did the same sort of reaction at the point about Konami getting better at pendulum design by saying "Well those decks aren't good so it doesn't really matter" which I think bleeds a lot more out of "Pendulum design" into the design of power levels across the board in YuGiOh. Abyss Actor, Valmonica, and Nemurelia are well designed, but are blocked out by the identity of YuGiOh as a game preferring monster wombo combo decks. I would go so far as to say ALL of "The X Problem" in YuGiOh are so inherently linked, but no one agrees on which way to address them in such a way that none of them can ever be solved.

06:16 The Tempest Magician FTK was more a problem with how Spell Counter accumulation became so superfluous than it was because of pendulums themselves. There were variants that didn't even run pendulums in the deck.

Nemleria is a great example of how to do Pendulum monsters without needing Pendulum summoning as a mechanic. So, Pendulum monsters arent necessarily a problem. It's the summoning mechanic itself. But I do hate Anti-Spell Fragrance's interaction against them.

IMO there should be more Pends like Archfiend Eccentrick. You have a lot of Pend Cards that you read and immediately know yeah, I'll always normal this or I'll only use this for the Scale Effect. Which basically turns some of those cards into regular monsters or spells. I think each Pend should have a relevant Monster (normal Pendulum like Metalfoes excluded obv.) and Scale Effect and you'll need to choose, depending on the Situation, which one you wanna use, just like Eccentrick. And instead of focusing on Extra Deck Spam, just give them good effects, so that it'll benefit you using those cards instead of using Generic ED Asshole Nr. 777. Endymion in my opinion had a good approach. For the first time since RML Exodia Spell Counters were actually used for something, that wasn't an ftk (disregarding Tempest FTK here because it got banned). You have your soft opt negates in Archetype, most of the cards have a relevant Scale and Monster effect and you didn't lose the game to one ash, due to it's searching and drawing ability. Of course the Deck would also use Generic ED Monsters, but frequently summoning Odd-Eyes Vortex, which is pend exclusive, 2 Jackal King and an Endymion with Counters, was good enough. So the deck didn't even need those Generic Options like most other Pends did.

To be fair i feel like Konami are at least trying to explore the different ways we can use pendulum mechanics (such as MBT mentioning Nemurelia and Valmonica), i just hope they continue to explore the different playstyles Pendulum can be, because i love pendulum and id love to see it appreciated more

"Fair pendulum deck." You mean dracoslayer?

Eccentric Archfiend is peak pendulum design

If you were to erase pendulum summoning Yu-Gi-Oh! wouldn't change a bit, because the only difference between pendulum summoning and special summoning is the ability to swarm the field, BUT you can already do that with other non-pendulum archetypes. Pendulum cards need either a new mechanic or an adaptation to the new format, maybe the new archetypes can provide some good ideas. But until that time happens we have the same problem as the ritual summoning back in the day, useless mechanic because there's decks that can do equal or even a better job because the only function of pendulum mechanics are to swarm the field.

I love pendulum. I honestly do not get why people hate it so much. I don't buy the "pEnD aLwAyS FtK oMeGaLuL" narrative. You could say that about literally every mechanic.

I think the worst part about pendulums is that it's arguably the most complex mechanic of the game, yet all the time you spend learning it and its nuances is wasted on the fact that it's a shit mechanic that doesn't see any play unless it's a tier zero deck, in which case it's useless anyway to understand it because you lose to it regardless.

Symphonic Warrior is a pretty cool Pendulum archetype.

Saying "Pendulum had 3 ftks" is like saying synchro had som many morr because there were ftks that used synchro monsters. It's just weird to say that they belonged to pendulum anymore others belonged to ritual, fusion, synchro or XYZ before it as if it were a valid argument 😂😂

I agree that pendulum cards having their own identity in mechanics is a better approach. They occupy special zones on the left and right and so much can be done with that concept.

Pend had so much potential. It's a shame it's just a soup or a bunch of interesting stuff that's penis.

Nothing like stevie not getting the Foucalt joke

The video really came off as not even listening to half of the points in the video then saying something that was said 5 seconds ago in the video. Like when MBT said that pend archetypes were getting more diverse but they are bad being instantly like "I hear what he is saying but the problem is they are bad". And similar other statements through the video.

So the issue with pendulums.....is that they have the pendulum summon. Like monsters being able to be placed as spells instead of monsters would be cool and interesting. Have that facilitate the summon of anywhere between 1 and 5 summons is insanity. Not to mention OG rulings where you could bring them backeach turn. It was because of exactly that, that i hated them as soon as any half decent decks came out for it.

I just wanna see trap-pendulums so you cant combo crazy t1 and have to instead rely on a mid range value element as you do effects like bottomless trap hole (but have a restriction like control no monsters or only a certain type/archetype) to carry you into your turn 2.

The argument that they're not meta relevant is sad because I think they are fun designs, there should just be a low power ceiling format fr. Make all the pack filler in all the yugioh sets actually worth pulling instead of meta players only caring about the ultras and secrets in their packs too "At least I can use this for X format" would be nice

What if the new master rule just removes the extra monster zone. Boom, links gone.

I freaking love pendulum. I dont care how weak, boring or hated it is. I just love playing them

idk if you counted them but, vaylantz and superheavy(if that counts) both can ftk

I feel like the issue with pendulum in general is the fact that people are considering pendulum as a singular archetype rather than whole summoning mechanic filled with different cards and archetypes having different effects and play styles and different interactions. The cards shouldn’t be treated as one soup of an archetype where it’s either a combo extender for this chimera of a deck or pure garbage that should never be looked at again. If Konami wants to fix this issue they should distant themselves from this philosophy of pendulum deck building and start to make new decks that are relevant to the meta and are unique compared to normal pendulum. Unless they want to end up like synchros where it devolved into spam monsters until you win with multiple boss monsters that negate or do something that is unfair.

Majespecter is my favorite pendulum deck.

I feel like Konami isn't incentivized to design unique decks because most of the playerbase only looks at how playable a deck is. Yeah, the game is powercrept to hell and back, but you saying that Nemrelia won't even be considered as a design success because the deck can't top is just sad, it ignores a ton of thought that goes into card design to end up with "deck is good, deck is dogshit". As someone who dislikes MTG, its casual playerbase is much stronger, and it's not only because of more formats. Most people don't see it as a "win or game 2" TCG, at least from my personal experience.

Personally i think compromise can come: Keep pendulum zone in spell and trap zone but return able to SP anywhere not being at the mercy of Link Arrow. It helps the older Pend archetype who are designed around that so Konami can actually focus on giving them right support. Yet keep making unique Pendulum archetypes who aren't Soul Charge on cracks. Imagine a Pendulum Trap card or pendulum with each unique scale number like 1 and 8.

I'll forever give this take. Xyz is what made pendulum broken. If xyz never existed pendulum would have always ever only been okay.

10:37 best joke

Why don't we get more cards like anchamoufrite that would actually change up decks at least a bit

Pendulums need to be freed from relying on links, theyre the only non link mechanic that still need to make links to be able to make big plays and most of the pendulum decks cant afford to do that. Every other summoning mechanic got out of link jail, pendulums deserve to as well.

Man, I would’ve stayed sub if I didn’t watch this video.

You know what would be funny? MR6 changed Pendulum Summons to be from face-up ED only. But honestly, I have no issue with Pendulums Monsters as a concept. The whole thing of being usable as a Spell or a Monster is cool. I really love cards like Chaos Emperor, Dragon of Armageddon and Archfiend Eccentrick. I just dislike the Pendulum Summoning mechanic. Another aspect that I have a gripe with is how they are so much harder to interact with given the fact they hide themselves into the opponent Extra Deck. Normally, stuff that leaves the field goes to the GY and you can interact with them. Not with Pendulums. Although another funny thing I found is how they set up the cards so potentially, each scale number could be different. But they never did anything with it

I understand that people hated pendulums during M3 or when the FTKs were around but i don't understand why people still hate on pendulum now all pendulum does right now is combo for 2h and end on Nibiru token.😐 pendulum litterally loses to everything. things like D-barrier are a literal FTK against pendulum players

pure pendulum duelist pay the price that the competitive yugioh duelists did, they ripped all the core parts and turned every pendulum deck into an engine, then modern yugioh pendulum design like you said makes everything too safe to be playable. There is room for fair yugioh in pendulums, I played through original pendulums, and until they broke pendulums knees in with master rule and people being able to side anti spell, it was a very oppressive format, with my locals at the time tops primarily pendulums.

last year when dracoslayers were released in the ocg, pendulums weren't meta and still they aren't. The fun fact is that you hate pendulums because they special summon tons of monsters and they were a pile deck but what if a told you that even now exist an even more fearsome pile deck to the same that can do same shit but wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better ? maybe dlink but nobody complains about it. This is just copium. Free Electrumite!

Pendulums are probably my least favorite mechanic. When they first came out before links it sucked to out a board just for it to fully come back the next turn because they all got sent to the extra deck. Honestly who knows what modern yugioh would be like without them because of all the cards that had to come out outside of pendulums that had to keep pace or out pace them. Personally I think they caused the biggest wave of powercreep and my god is there too much text on them.

I'll always have a soft spot for pendulums, odd eyes was the first deck I ever truly made, but I'll be the first to say it's dogshit

Pendulum monsters problem is they were around so little ofc they didn't get to do anything unique link were the same at the start And now they are relegated to one thing cause any support they get immediately gets banned while tears ran rampant for a damn while Favoritism

Your distillation of modern combo decks into “well here’s my board, did you break it? Oh let’s go game 2” is some of the most disingenuous stuff I’ve heard on this channel and that’s saying a lot. At that point why not just deconstruct the entire game into “lol I put cardboard on the mat, then you do it, then we go next”. Bro I swear something has happened to your commentary lately, or maybe I just grew up more and stopped having surface ass level takes about my hobbies. Idk.

I do agree that Pendulum as a whole are just broken and (at least the way they have been historically) should not exist in Yu-Gi-Oh! However, i do also agree with MBT in that there is a lot of very creative and unique design space in the Pendulum concept as a whole, which at the very least deserves a second look. I think the biggest problem is and always will be the "generic extra deck"... that just should have never been a thing... but i don't think we will ever get away from that, so its probably easier to just design new pendulum archetypes and monsters to not allow for that sort of playstyle.

We can also blame Pends for the existence of links and their FTKs

Pend was a mistake and Honestly the reason why I think link exist. When they let everyone out of the link jail, pend was left behind as a way to bury the mistake. Pend monster printed nowadays with the exception of the new draco slayer, are some weird gimmick or as a small eng but not the Pend pile like before

Love stevie. But God the pendulum bashing is insane. If anything pendulum is the 3rd worst mechanic. Right after XYZ and Link

I don't like pendulums so I want them gone so konami can print some other cards that anger me

Even after not playin after like 7 years. I still look at pendulums as the worst game mechanic. While links are too generic, pendulums causes way more problems and it's left a nasty past.