One thing to consider which you hinted on a bit is something called "Italese." Italian Americans incorporated lots of English phrasings and words into their speech over the decades and created what was the equivalent of Spanglish. Russell's pronunciation of Irish was originally translated in the US as "Irisher" rather than the grammatically correct Irishman. So I think they were trying to demonstrate that he wasn't using the correct Italian word either. It sounds to me as if he's saying something like "ai-ri-scia," essentially taking the English pronunciation and putting an Italian twist on it. This strikes me as very authentic of the time period among Italian Americans. Similarly, there's a scene near the start of the film where Latin is being spoken in church and it's really bad. Being a Philadelphia native, where the film took place, I think Martin Scorsese had the wherewithal to demonstrate that they were in an Irish American neighborhood and church, not an Italian American church. Consequently, their Latin was spoken very poorly with a heavy American accent. The little details like these made me appreciate this film even more!
@@jmgonzales7701 I would argue the opposite, that Latin based languages are the most prominent. Spanish is the second language of the United States and the most commonly studied language by native born English speakers. You would have difficulty not hearing Spanish spoken just walking around the street in most major American cities.
It looks like Russell Bufalino was born in Sicily in 1903 his father died a few months later and his family returned to Sicily but then returned to the united states in 1906, then he again when back to Sicily in 1910 after his mother died. I think going back and forth between Sicily in the united states during his formative years is going to have an effect on his accent. You see it a lot here in California with children of Migrant workers who go back and forth between the united states and Mexico, they have hybrid accents.
Exactly. Myself is an example (in my native language). When I was very young, I was told (because I don't remember much of my younger years) I spent time with my grand parents (in different region) frequently. Their local dialect/accent is different than my home city dialect/accent. I was told my accent was switching between (unwillingly I guess) the two. Plus my family was not local in the city and lived in an place with lot of different background people. As the result, I don't have very strong local accent. I had enough to be sounding like someone who doesn't sound foreign, but nowhere as typical old generation locals. It is logical both characters shouldn't speak as "local".
I'm Dutch, I'm from the east. Where we speak a hybrid between Dutch and German. I can confirm to you that lyrical sounds get broken up by going from place to place.
@@jmgonzales7701 not really, this area in particular is one that still maintains Talking in that hybrid language and actively criticism people who don't do it right
The bread dipping is totally accurate as my relatives do it, although we are all of Calabrese descent. It most likely is an older tradition that was preserved by the poor immigrants in America. Grazie mille per il tuo video perchè io capisco un po' della lingua Italiana
@@andrewstackpool4911 - It’s way older. Bread at the time is so hard so to soften it’s dipped in with wine or soup. That why the "Last Supper" which is a "Passover meal", Judas was caught dipping his bread in the Wine with Jesus’s.
Thank you for gracing us low socioeconomic peasants with free paid content, my manager at PlayTech put me through the ringer this morning and I really needed a pick me up.
Something else to consider, Pesci‘s character spoke most of his Italian in America with ppl from Italy and born in the states. I imagine it creates a different type of language than in Italy. Not to mention the all the regions of Italy ending up in one area creates a mishmash
I actually thought that De Niro's Italian was too good for someone who had learned it incidentally as an adult, especially as a soldier spending most of his time in battle surrounded by other Americans. (And I'll add that he has learned to speak it much better than he could in The Godfather. Too bad he couldn't flip the two performances). I think both of them have the mannerisms down. Pesci's a little hit and miss. His short phrases are pretty good, but he gets in trouble with the longer sentences. To me it's not so much that he's pronouncing things wrong. It's more that we can hear him diligently making sure he makes the correct sounds, rather than calmly letting the words flow out without thinking about them. So he sounds like someone speaking a foreign language. I'll also note that they're both presumably saying what's written in the script, so any word choices go to the screenwriters rather than the actors. I'll also note that there is a distinct dialect of Italian that was spoken in the US in this era. It was a mixture of a variety of Southern Italian dialects and English. It seems quite plausible to me that someone who had lived in the US since he was eleven would drift over to speak that, both in vocabulary and in accent, rather than retaining his childhood Sicilian. My father, born in 1928, grew up with that language, which he believed to be Italian, because that's what everyone called it. But when he went to Italy, he discovered that it wasn't remotely like standard Italian, and didn't work in Palermo either. That needs to be considered when judging the authenticity of the scene. Pesci isn't playing an actual Catanese, but rather an Italian-American who lived in Catania for ten years as a small child. It's somewhat like making the mistake of saying that Italian restaurants in the US aren't "authentic" by comparing them to restaurants in Italy rather than to the food that Italian-Americans eat.
Maybe consider the infamous scene in the first Godfather movie when Michael meets Sollozzo in the restaurant, part of the conversation is in italian, it can be found on youtube.
I'm third generation Italian American, my grandfather was from Napoli. I really appreciate this stuff, because I feel it helps me connect with my past.
@8:10 According to wikipedia, Bufalino moved back to US at the age of 3 and then back again to Sicily at the age of 7, so no he didn't spend from 0 to 11 in Italy. The years from 3 to 7 are very important for language development and he was in US during that time.
Even people who have never heard Italian before could tell Brad Pitt and crew had the worst accents imaginable. It was such a contrast to Christoph Waltz as Hans Landa. Waltz doesn't speak Italian, so hearing Signor Urbani's review of his performance in Italian would be great.
It never fails to amaze me how easy it iss to understand Italians, being a Brazillian, i wonder if italians feel the same, particularly about people from Sao Paulo, the most italian of brazillian cities
im argentinian and i can pick up a few words even though i dont speak italian,sometimes i can understand the general message even if i dont understand the language cause of the similar sounding words,context and expressions its a weird feeling
@@joelalvarez5322 Its funny, spanish and any of its varietys are much harder for me, although it SOUNDS more simillar to portuguese than italian and has many many equal words the meaning and pronunciation is so different, for example i could NEVER understand a full paragraph when my argentinian friends where arguing
The good thing is that once you know a language of a certain group all the others will be slightly easier to learn. I can easily understand Brazilian and European Portuguese and much of the other Romance languages, even not well known ones like Ladino (both the Romansh-like alpine language and the Judeo-Spanish). The problem comes when I have to write long and complex texts and I end up mashing words from this or that language. Acho que um brasileiro médio pode entender um 70% do italiano.
Great video Metatron, really appreciate all the language work you do! One interesting point. When Pesci says "Iressce" for Irish - this is also how my family who came from Messina to Philly would say "Irish", basically italianizing the English word. The Irish and Italians in Philadelphia had a lot of animosity towards one another as they would have to fight to work for pennies, so not surprising that the word "Irish" would make it into the lexicon, albeit with a heavy accent. That stood out as something really authentic considering the mixed Italian and American heritage of Russ - actually I haven't heard that word since my grandparents died!
If there's one I've learned being fan of Valentino Rossi (Italian MotoGP) is the fact your italian varies depending on the region you come from. In fact Kobe Bryant who's speaks Italian fluently actually speak with with Milanese/Lombard vernacular as since he lived and grew up in the Lombardy region. Going back to Valentino Rossi he's from Urbino/La Marche clearly speaks that way.
Eh,being from Tavullia Valentino is right on the border between Romagna and Marche,his way of speaking is kind of a hybrid between those of both regions,considering that the “romagnolo” dialect speaking zone extends somewhat into the Marche region.
I would suggest to write your examples of Italian and Sicilian sentences as you proceed to explain them (with some visuals or something like that), so non-native speakers would understand the differences between the languages and also where the grammatical mistakes lie. Ps: apart from that, I enjoyed the video. You're great, man. Keep going with these amazing contents. 💪🏻
That was an interesting take on that conversation. Especially the cultural implications and dialects in context, as you've pointed out one learned the languages in a war scenario by just talking to people and the other was a native that had lived a long time in the USA. Neither had any formal education in the languages and they used various shorthands that were entirely believable, more believable in context than "perfect" grammar.
I've often said that if I could go anywhere in time/space it would probably be Sicily in the 1140s. Perfect blend of cultures and a great respect for knowledge regardless of where it came from. Having Norman ancestors has nothing to do with my opinion ;)
About the moment, when De Niro's character says: "I thought you had an accent like Catania", it wasn't a script statement, it was a compliment to the superior. A compliment to the accent from the past, even though it is being diluted by the present one. It's paying respect. Anyway, thanks for the Great Video as always. And it is a Killer of a movie. It's what it is.
I like that you paid attention to the nuances of what makes something authentic. Not everyone is going to speak a language 100% correctly 100% of the time especially if they are a foreigner.
Yeah, I was giving a speech/presentation to a bunch of uni students in China, and one of them accused me, a native English speaker, of making mistakes with my English. I told her, "That's dialect, not mistakes. I'm Australian." Yeah, I know I'm stretching it a bit calling myself a native English speaker...
We all expect that children will make mistakes in grammar and word choice from time to time, but it has become orthodoxy for some linguists that adults do not mistakes in their native language - that instead what appear to be mistakes are class, education or dialect markers. It's difficult to be dogmatic about this: at any one time, was the speaker trying to speak the standard written language (and getting it wrong) or being colloquial?
As a person that has had to learn Spanish on my own, the hard way, your comment about vocabulary and pronunciation as correct. I am now fairly proficient when I speak, but my “accent” is all over the place from the different countries of the people that have helped me learn more words. I also mistakenly insert English or forget and bastardize words to fit. I think that pointing out this nuance to people that never experienced this themselves is helpful to stop the ignorance of people and broaden their enjoyment of the film.
so i come from Ticino, the only italian speaking canton in Switzerland, and i can tell you i've seen my whole life my father and mother dipping anything from biscuits to bread into wine :D
I will say as an American I have noticed certain traditions that have gone out of style abroad tend to be more celebrated here I think personally it's isolation just like you said you live in a very specific Italian speaking area I would not be surprised if that was similar
Always love your videos, especially on reviews of italian history presented by Americans and the British. They're always informative, self-aware and contextually meaningful - while you consistently state an awareness of areas you're unsure of or lack full knowledge, thus allowing us to research outside of your work to our hearts content. One of the greatest educational RU-vidrs. I consistently recommend your channel to others through my own works. Congratulations on the success of your channel, and best wishes for the future! Sam.
Really enjoyed this. I enjoy language learning. 20 yrs ago I was fluent in German, Brazilian Portuguese, and (naturally) American English. I stopped using German 15yrs ago because my (ex)wife hated hearing all foreign languages, I continued to speak Portuguese in my National Guard job so it's still good enough. Give me a week back in Brazil and I would likely be back to native level.
Being from the north (Friuli, to be specific) I didn't know the meaning of scandare and I was under the impression he mispronounced "rischiando", which felt lame. Now I love the movie even more. Also, I totally agree that sometimes we grow up using words from our own dialect thinking they are italian words: in our case it's probably even worse, since our history and the influence from our neighbours brought us words that have slavic/german roots and we italianized them when we were forced to speak Italian in the twenties. That's one of the many beautiful things of our Country: our diversity is a treasure.
I didn't think I'd enjoy this, but Metatron you never seize to amaze me in how you make everything so gosh-darn entertaining. Unfortunately not a noble one but I love learning every bit of wisdom you speak, and continuously look forward to every video. Thank you for what you do you deserve so much success 😊
One thing I wish he would talk about is women in feudal times (European, Asian, etc.) with their roles, struggles (like during times of war), activities, freedoms, limitations, facts, misconceptions, and various figures. Wouldn't you agree that it would be fascinating to hear his knowledge on the other half of our species (preferably without getting into an anti-sjw vs sjw rant)?
You hail from one of the most beautiful cities in the world and the people I met there were so warm, it took us aback!!!! The owner of the hotel invited me amd my pregnant partner out for dinner with her amd her parents, who were celebrating their 50th anniversary.....there are no words! I genuinely belive it was their warmth and wise words that fortified my resolve to be a farther.
At the same time, Raff, young 11/12 year olds being indoctrinated into new cultures often become fully immersed, taking on new accents and languages easily. One would expect the culture-shock to be fairly considerable, moving from provincial Sicily to the hustle and bustle of interwar New Yoik. Whatever the case, it's acceptable to consider that after 30/40/50 years, that his accents (both Sicilian and American) developed specifically due to the accents of those he grew up around. If (as expected) he grew up in an Italian neighbourhood, that the accents he would develop would be an amalgamation of the children he played with, and those of their parents and people in his local community. I find it harder to believe that De Niro's character gained a fluent lexicon from a year and a half in Sicily/Italy. Firstly, the Irish and Italian communities in NY were famously abrasive with each other, so the war would expectedly have been his introduction to the language. The GIs would have had learned phrases, but their interaction with locals would have been massively limited due to the heavy fighting and constant push toward Rome. YES, he could well have learned SOME Italian/Sicilian, but nowhere near as fluently as his character is versed.
Putting economics aside, this hatred was stoked and perpetuated similar to how white vs poc is today. The protestants needed the italians and irish to build out the infrastructure of the country but they didn't want a catholic power base to rival the protestants. Also, the irish we treated far worse than we were and we came on the seen with alot of baggage, let us not kid ourselves. This baggage was felt by the irish most often do to occupying similar socio economic status.
@@dangerousdiscourse "Also, the irish we treated far worse than we were and we came on the seen with alot of baggage, let us not kid ourselves." Would this be honor culture? I know Sicily in particular has a lot of middle eastern honor culture due to moorish and Islamic colonisation holding out longer there than Spain and other parts of Europe.
I’m Italian as well and from the north I saw my grandparents using wine and bread a few times but they used to mix the wine with a soup of a few veggie ( like onions and carrots ) or with the chest of a chicken sometimes when they were lucky to have it … They told me was a way to make up the tasteless soup to something eatable also because the bread wasn’t the usual one at the time but a sub product .. For example living on mountains they used to make chestnut bread that doesn’t really taste good i tried it What I’m trying to say it doesn’t make sense to me because was a thing that poor people used to do and not for sure wealthy families but hey I’m not from the exact place so I shut up
@@bastardslayer5625 Not Really, they used to give acorn mixed with other aliment for some animal at the farm but never been a farmer in my all life i Can't really tell also like a said is a kinda Odd bread it macht well with breakfast or sweet product like jelly or similar ; you don't wont to eat it with meat or soups or to do the scarpetta i tried and is not in my cord....
I was about to point R.U. to _The Godfather_ scenes where Michael Corleone (American-born) was in Sicily (and, for that matter, to the "locals" there).
@@davidbraun6209 the locals in the Godfather were all real italians...and even speaked proper dialect if i remember correctly...there is no way for a non-native speaker to be as fluent in it as they were otherwise.
I found the learn-teach thing quite interesting because even in English some people will do a similar thing and say variations of ‘can you learn me this?’ rather than ‘can you teach me this?’
It's old English to say that'll learn them. because to learn is the Germanic cognate: lernen, as in some parts of UK especially South West which retained Saxon like Somerset say good, gooder and best, bes'ser (beste, besser) are just some examples.
@@markiobook8639 Hmmm that’s interesting. (I know nothing about Old English) Is it ever used in the direct voice like in the examples I put above? I’m from Northern England and hear those quite often so could be that holdover from OE
@@Ellis307 It depends. Most linguists ignore the South West which is where academics acknowledge Cornish as a living language and should be given special same status as Welsh. Simultaneously you have the self-same academics looking down their noses at the South-West dialect, as being somehow stupid or the jabberings of mere imbecilic peasant farmers, despite its long history of being highly inflected by Angle-Schäsisch- and I use the German spelling to underline the link to the West Germanic dialect. Essentially Somerset itself is AngloSaxon for Sumorseate- seate (land) of the Somerton peoples. Among many links to German is an infamously stereotypical crop in the South West: the mangelwurzel- a large orange-yellow turnip/beet. Mangelwurzel in modern High German means "without roots"- yet mangold remains an fairly common old German word for chard or fodder and wurzel remains a word still used by German farmers for root crops- like beet, turnip etc. It's universally held that old Somerset-Dorset-Gloucester was the hold-out of the Anglisch-Sächsisch language- it retained rhotic R (as in American "yard") and until travel was made much easier by the expansion of the railway lines- it was fairly insular- but people of Bristol and Plymouth have always been foul-sea (as opposed to fair weathereres) and cod and kipper (herring) also known as silver darlin's a major industry- and also privateering (piracy) was a big calling (the stereotypical pirate accent) If you're looking for the English accent most similar to modern American- it's a combination of the North-South vowel split of path/path, bath/bath past/past, castle/castle (Irish and Northerners) combined with strangely a West Country rhotic R.
I really enjoyed this. As someone who is hopeless at languages it always impresses me how actors give it a bash- but I'm always wondering how accurate their bash actually is. I really enjoyed The Irishman, too. Considering how Pacino and DeNiro had effectively phoned in most their performances of the last 20ish years, it was a welcome reminder how good they can be. Pesci I thought was excellent
Che bello sei Siciliano ! Ho servito una missione per la mia chiesa fra 2001-2003. Ho vessuto nelle cittá di Catania, Marsala, Caltanissetta, Misretta ed Agrigento. Mi manca troppo quel bel paese, la gente e sua cultura 😊
I've been learning Spanish for a good few years and at the start of being able to understand Spanish I could only understand a bit of Italian but that was crazy listening too the Italian I didn't need to read the subtitles, crazy 😂
My first time at this channel. I find it humorous that I detect a British accent along with an Italian accent when you speak in English. And here you are critiquing American actor's accent, syntax and inflections when they attempt to speak Sicilian. I do love the sound of spoken Italian - but know very few words to understand any of it. Great content, keep it up!
How about reviewing the dinner scene in The Godfather where Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) and Virgil Sollozzo (Al Lettieri) are speaking at dinner? Similarly to The Irishman, it's a conversation between a native speaker (Sollozzo) and a first generation American who learned some Italian, presumably a Sicilian dialect (Michael Corleone).
Great video, fascinating stuff! You are amazing at languages. I am a half Italian Brit who lives in Japan and I can only fluently speak English, your breakdowns are wonderful.
My grandmother was from Palermo on my father’s side and my grandpa is half Sicilian/half Napolitano and my grandmother is half Sicilian/half Scotch-Irish. Was in a big Italian American household growing up but none of my grandparents spoke Italian. My girlfriend is Puerto Rican and came to the US as a little girl and knows fluent Spanish and English. There’s always a part of me that wished my ancestors kept that tradition and I knew the language.
Metatron, can you make a video on how to make real Italian food? I know it’s not your usual content but I’m of Italian descent in the US and always hear the food is different in Italy. Some real recipes would be awesome 👍🏻
Hi, I'm from Italy and I can tell you that the difference is not just a matter of recipes (because also in Italy a lot of tradional recipes have multiple versions from different regions), but mostly of ingredients. I think that find in the US the right ingredients useful for an authentic Italian recipe is not a really simple task. So the simple way to taste authentic Italian food is to come here in Italy ahahah
@@CalogeroPeritore to be fair, with globalization some ingredients have become more common oversea so while definitely not easy, i wouldn't say it's impossible to make genuine italian food oversea, although there's naturally going to be less choice in what one can make. i mean, i'm pretty sure one can make some spaghetti aglio e olio in the us too.
I advice to watch Chef Vincenzo Prosperi for that. Vincenzo Prosperi is an Italian Chef who now lives in Australia but he was born and lived in Italy for many years. His channel called "Vincenzo's Plate" and he has real pure authentic Italian recipes and they all taste great. Sometimes he brings experts on specific Italian dishes always fun to watch. He is a funny, intelligent, heart warming real person. You will love it.
@@iota-09 I said it because I know that some types of food that you can find in US supermarkets, even if are produced by Italian companies, are conceived for US' market and can be slightly different from their Italian counterpart. For example Barilla uses for the pasta that is sell in the US different varieties of grain from which are used in order to produce the pasta that is sell in Italy.
If the guy was raised in Sicilly until he was 11, but then he lived in the US, by the time he's 60 or older like in the movie, he would have forgotten most of it. I'm someone who has lived away from my country for all of my recent life and I forget so, so much stuff. I'm an educated person and I can speak 6 languages, but I still forget the one that I use the least, which is my first language, which I used daily until I was about 20, and used a lot until I was maybe 22. I'm now 36 and I forget a lot of the language - so the guy who was 60 and was only in Sicilly until he was 11 and was clearly an uneducated rube would have forgot much, much more. Remember that nowadays you can get italian TV and movies and keep the language alive in your head, you can call people up, go on facebook or twitch to get exposed - this didn't exist back then, at all. All you had was people around you. Anyways, the same thing goes for the accent: you eventually start losing it; I started losing mine maybe 10 years into my separation from the homeland. So even if Pesci didn't have the original accent nailed down, that's fine, because the real person wouldn't have had it either. When the Irishman says Pesci did sound like he had that specific accent, he's only making a vacuous compliment, rather than making a fully rational observation. Italian is one of the languages I speak and I've heard so many Italians speak badly - I wouldn't be surprised about Pesci's character being just as bad or worse.
Awesome video Metatron, & thank you for making it available to regular viewers. You should do a collaboration video about Italian mob movies, with Michael Franzese, who was an actual mob boss.
During harvest in Hungary, they would distribute fresh bread to grape pickers who would then eat a piece of bread to cleanse the palate then eat grapes.. then repeat. This is still a popular lunch for us here. The Greek tradition of olive oil and balsamic for dipping are also still very popular, but you would already know most of these
Oh I didn’t know you were Sicilian! I’ve only been once and honestly I was really in love with the people I’ve met, it was so nice!! I would love to go again so bad and really get to know it a bit more.
I love you dip your bread! I do that all the time. It's a special treat to have a good red wine .. chianti is almost impossible to find where I live, I have to drink a wine I wouldn't inflict on a person I hated. I also dip it in olive oil and salt.. better than butter
I've read that in the Wesley Snipes/Sean Connery film "Riding Sun" the Japanese language Snipes used was somewhat... creative. Can you give a critique?
Given that those scene highlighted Catania, worth noting that Rosario “Russell” Bufalino was not from Catania (neither the city nor province), but rather from Montedoro, Caltanissetta. Montedoro had a significant colony in the Pittston-Scranton area of PA and the core membership of the mafia Family there was largely made up of Montedoresi (Montedoro being in what was historically a sulphur mining region, many locals emigrated to work in the coal industry in PA). Thus, apart from having spent much of his formative childhood years in Sicily, Bufalino’s life in the US was also one surrounded by compaesani, which would presumably have also served reinforced his accent (the accent typical of the Caltanissetta/Agrigento interior, rather then that of Catania in the east).
My mum's family is from abrutzo and this plays well in the mini dialec changes there too. Much respect mate, should do more of these. Also the wine with bread is akin to vokda and potatoes. Very nice touch haha
There was at least one scene in a Columbo episode where Columbo is having a conversation in Italian with another Italian American. I've no idea what the episode is called, who the other actor is, or if he was in any way Italian, but Peter Falk who played Columbo was actually Jewish, whereas Columbo made a big deal of both sides of his family being Italian. So it would be interesting to see how accurate both actors were in that scene, or any other Columbo scenes.
If you have anymore info on that episode plot to try and track down What episode and season it was. You're more likely to get it reviewed if they don't have to try and hunt for it.
Russell Bufalino was from Montedoro in Caltanisetta in south central Sicily, so not really near Catania. Actually about 16 miles closer to Palermo than to Catania. Anyways, another great scene worth examining is from the first Godfather film where Michael Corleone is dining with Sollozzo and McClusky before he kills them. Actor Al Lettieri, who played Sollozzo, was supposed to be speaking Sicilian in the restaurant scene. He was born in New York and was supposedly the brother-in-law of Genovese mobster Pasquale Eboli (whose family came from the Naples area).
Would a non-native speaker be able to distinguish a Catanian accent? My mother was a native Spanish speaker and she could, generally speaking, distinguish between an American and a British accent; but no further than that. She couldn't tell the difference between New York and Southern American or between Cockney and Scouse. I've studied German and have always heard that Hitler spoke with a marked "Southern"/Austrian accent, but I can't really tell.
It really depends, italian dialects are not like the english ones....(bar the irish and scottish one) most of them are almost entirely other languages...with even different grammar all together....now, being able to distinguish the specific dialect from a specific city compared to another one in the same region...now that is more unlikely...possbile but unlikely.
My parents were from Rome but emigrated to the US literally months before I was born. No bread dipping on either side of the pond in our family. Loved the scene analysis and breakdown. I had to say that the scene hurt my ears a bit, but when you reiterated that neither of them were portraying lifelong native speakers, it clicked. Anyway, keep it up, I love these kinds of videos.
Insegnare's a funny one, I've often heard someone say that someone had taught them, or "mi ha insegnato", or even in Catanese "mi 'nsignau", and then use that phrase so often that "to learn" is almost forgotten. Even so, I've heard a few Catanese say that "chiddu min' parrau u mistere", and other sorts of phrases. That's the hard part with dialects, there's often little standardisation.
This was so good loved the video, and even going into detail about how class and region effects accent. I will echo others and say please review inglorious Bastards next
When you mention about watching it and having your suspension of disbelief broken, happened to me with Breaking Bad and any Spanish spoken in the other series adjacent to it. Gus Fring, a Chilean, has the shittiest least believable accent, Lalo is about the only one who speaks it properly, and that's because he IS Mexican. Another place I found the Spanish in Sicario (both) lacking at times.
i really like that you do all this differnt stuff i keep coming back to youre channel if i ever see you ill buy you a coke and we can discusse the theories of the bronze age collapse and what type of armour we would prefer depending on the time period keep up the fun and interestung stuff ill be watching
I'd LOVE to hear your thoughts on season 2 Episode 4 "Commendatori" of The Sopranos. The main character Tony Soprano goes to Naples. I'm particularly curious about a guy called Furio Giunta whom I assumed was speaking primarily Italian and that his accent in English was real. Later saw him in an interview where he had no accent at all. Love your content, and how passionate you get about things. You're very easy to listen to, ideal educator in my book.
Sicilian thick crust pizza is the best pizza, that's what they should be eating in this scene. None of that thin crust nonsense that is so popular these days.
The _learn/teach_ terms being used interchangeably by rustic people can even be found here in North America by the great, Yosemite Sam when he says, “That'll _learn_ ya!”
You should do a video about that Sicilian scene from True Romance. Because to me it’s just completely wrong. Sicilians have darker features because they have more admixture from the OG European farmers, not because they’re more African.
Is it really even true that Sicilians are darker? There is also significant contributions from Normans and Aragornese in particular among the upper class (ones who breed). If you look at someone like Giusy Buscemi and Miriam Leone, both sicilians, vs someone like Elisa Maino (northerner) youd be wrong in thinking the darker one was sicilian
@@JohnnyLodge2 k, it’s probably complete BS then. I thought they were similar to Sardinians, who have the highest DNA admixture from the original farmers of Europe(who had darkish skin) of any current group in Europe.
@@dreammfyre idk someone needs to @ masaman. He is the yt genetic expert. I do know many "dark skinned sicilians" but from same town just as many fait skinned including those with bkue eyes and some with blond hair (natural). I think the sicilians = black IS a racist stereotype and not much more to it
@@JohnnyLodge2 it really depends...my grandparents were from Sicily...and my grandma had very very white skin...but my grandpa had brown skin all year long
@@dreammfyre i mean....Sicily (but italy in general to be fair) is a melting pot of most DNA from most of the mediterranian countries..and that include North Africa...but aso Spain and Greece...so saying that they are black, is not true of course...but also....if anything, the whitest skin is more proof of conquest of Sicily from other european populace...because Sicily, along with certain part of Spain and Greece are the most southest part of Europe...certain part of North Africa are more north than Sicily for example...so natually, without external influcence, the skin of the sicilian people would naturally turn darker with time (not that much anymore of course because most people don't just stand all day in the sun like they did in ancient times)...because dark skin is just a product of more melatonin afterall.
Luv your vids, mate! ✌🏻 Would you consider doing some stuff on the "Inspector Montalbano" series that's been on in the UK. Absolutely love that series: beautiful landscapes and architecture, and great characters.
