IS THIS THE END OF THE TESLA SUPERCHARGER NETWORK? 

Is it just one month rolling? Missed that. Wow.

@woolychewbakker5277 Tweet them (or X them) lol

Sandy Munro has given a view of these changes at Tesla ( on RU-vid) it is worth a watch.

Fuel cards.

@@ModernHeroesand leasing offers, as well as people who don’t know or also hate Tesla too probably

I don't generally look or plan charge stops and just stop whenever I feel the need, most are motorway services etc so I can almost guarantee now there will be chargers and also just presume the tesla ones won't work on my car as service stations are generally tesla only, I feel many will do this and not check the tesla app or any other too for open to all chargers, if they were all open to all then more would probably use the knowing they would all work. This may change in the future if tesla do install all v4s as open to all or eventually open up all chargers.

Some of these new cars come with a cheap power deal, once this ends watch them move across the floor to Tesla chargers !

No, you're talking about the difference between Tesla non-member prices and other network prices, Tesla generally around 15 to 40p less, depending on network. Membership is a FURTHER potential saving, and the difference between member price and non-member price is about 8 to 10p per KWh. So you cover the membership costs when you've charged about 110 kwh in a month.

Don't start providing a *Reasonable* explanation!! . It's the usual "OMG crazy ELON" Sh*** Isn't it. . The same as 2022(?) When prices raised and it was "the end of Tesla!!!" . Then by Christmas *Every* manufacturer was raising prices and dealers (USA) were profiteering. Come January Tesla CUT prices because they'd ridden the wave ..... and what happened? . Headlines of "O.G! TESLA INITIATES EV PRICE WAR!!!"

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KEEP DREAMING FELLOW. THERE WILLL NEVER BE IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE UNTIL WE BUILD MORE POWER STATION. IN WINTER SURPLUS ENERGY IN UK IS 4% 3.5 GIGAWATT. THIS WOULD POWER ABOUT 2 MILLION EV'S WE HAVE 35 MILLION CARS PLUS PLUS BUSES VANS AND THE ODD SMALL LORRY. THERE WILL ALSO BE A LOT MORE CAR FIRES!!

More chargers and more EV’s equals longer charge times as the grid capacity is not going to increase in any significant way. When there are 1,000 megawatts available, it is shared equally across all charging points when use is high. Waiting times at charging stations at key holiday times have been huge recently in many countries, all just trying to get a slice of the one cake that has to be shared between so many.

You're assuming they "scrapped" the "Compact"? . 😁 (I have a different hypothesis.... Popcorn ready)

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Let's wait and see?

@@foppo101we don’t know his master plan we only see a tiny part of it, the stuff thats happening right now rather than the complete plan, bit like playing chess thinking three or four moves ahead

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The wakeup process has only just dawned for his cult following. The con is on death row. So many areas and so much bs.

Musk knows EV market share has peaked and can only shrink from now on.

Same.... But fewer options outside Tesla

No, the concern now is will I find none of the stalls available because the network thinks half are available but it's half full of cars with ports on the wrong side.

No. He's reacting to Ford etc "Pulling back" from EVs, meaning the extra chargers can't be justified (there are sufficient for TESLA vehicles) The network as is will be "finished" updated and gaps filled, as per his "XChange" (formally "tweet") last week. .... Plus He's doing what he's done before, *PREEMPTING* what he believes is a pending Geopolitical or economic issue coming later this year. . Note the "Cheaper vehicles, existing lines, elements of unboxed" announcement, which most missed, concentrating on the (wrong) "model 2 cancelled" rubbish. . Those vehicles are designed to "recession proof" Tesla. . (Personally, I'm taking notice!)

More of an erratic ill-considered top-down decision. When will people stop believing that Tesla has some major breakthrough in anything? They have so many failed promises pushed by Elon.

The cost (to charge) is 50% less than others. The cost to install is reputed to be as low as 20% per unit. . That's a parallel situation to let's say "Model Y vs Mach-E" , with the Y making ±15% and the Mach-E losing more than the build cost..... If you're trying to make up tens of thousands of pounds per unit charging double the price (let's say 80 vs 40p/kWh) that's a lot of kWh catch up (even only £10,000 more build cost? That's 25,000kWh just to be even) . Then your "rival" makes it known that the membership makes their system cheaper after the first 24kWh..... Basically less than 1 charge per month. And they're reliable. . Looks bad for the others if customers figure it out? ..... What does he know? Well, if the prices are set to benefit the Tesla users, adjusted to "just above break even" with a margin for maintenance and expansion, there's not much meat on the bone? . But, he invited others to benefit. When they agreed, Tesla began scaling (at their own cost? Or, maybe with a "contribution" from the company joining? 🤔) . Having started the investment, those companies essentially renaged on the deal by "pulling back" from EVs, meaning the network would be too large, underutilised. . This forced a re-evaluation. (imo)

@@rogerstarkey5390 so what you are saying is other manufacturers are back pedaling so that for now creates an over supply of chargers, could be I guess

That's how I've read it. They have got rid of the team setup to expand the network to new locations. Elon said on X "Tesla still plans to grow the Supercharger network, just at a slower pace for new locations and more focus on 100% uptime and expansion of existing locations" They haven't sacked everyone as someone still needs to manage the network and grow it.

Only 5 sites in Hampshire, inc. 1 open to all. Surprising, as lots of Tesla drivers in Hampshire.

Tesla is routinely at 50% less per kWh. Unless others can BUILD and INSTALL at drastically reduced cost there's zero way to catch up.

@@rogerstarkey5390 And this is why I think Tesla have stepped back for a business reason, it would take a major player to step in and build at scale to achieve those costs or have so much backing that they don't care about the initial cost.

​@@1grizzlyrizzo Whoever tries the business model won't work unless they can immediately match costs of build and energy. . ONLY chance? Build "Tesla inside" under licence. (Also a win for Tesla)

@@rogerstarkey5390 Again this is why I think it's a big player in the works, or Musk is flexing his dominance of the NACS issue in the US, who knows but this smells of big player moves.

It's not "over"

Whilst it's not "over" there's never been a better time to buy an EV, just don't limit yourself to an Elon box.

@@davidspencer7254 Never been a better time because of the depreciation because ev's are throw aways.

If you can't charge from home EV ownership is not as compelling. I love my Tesla but if I couldn't charge from home dirt cheap while I sleep it might not be veey practical if relying 100% on public chargers.