Imagine being corrupted for so long that you're in awe and overwhelmed by the reminder of such a simple pleasure of a berry. A world where there were "no more gifts, no more surprises."
Hell always has new surprises for its inhabitants, it never stops getting worse, always has a darker shade of black to show. It's a line that goes down infinitely more.
@@Dicknballz52 after experiencing pain for so long. Pleasures such as eating delicious food can be euphoric. It may sound corny but being deprived of something for so long makes it all the sweeter once you experience it again.
This pretty much happens all the time IRL too, but especially throughout history The most obvious is the parallels to this and slaves after they were first freed and how some literally couldn’t comprehend what to actually do with this freedom. However this type of thing can be seen and felt in a multitude of exmaples, big, small, modern and old. Its genuinely really interesting but tragic stuff to read about. I remember a woman telling the story of the moment she realized she was truly free from her abusive boyfriend. It was simply the day she decided to eat dinner of HER choice again on her own time and just burst out crying in relief, horror and saddness. Its crazy and sad to believe how she described how she was so devolved of any sense of agency or autonomy that the simplest of things we do everyday and take for granted like deciding when to get a glass of water when we’re thirsty can be a minefield for others. Sometimes simply because a person was brought up with the concept that free-will is something you’re devoid of, something that can be taken away or you’re not even owed; like you’re less than you are. When presented with the most basic concepts of choice, they relapse into misery and awe. Its tragic stuff really.
“One day, Hell will be emptied and it’s doors will rattle in the wind. Through my hand, God lifts the damned from Hell in his mercy, to enact their penance on Earth as my soldiers.” Who ever wrote Isaac’s dialogue. Absolutely wonderful.
The beginning is indeed a quote from the Islamic Prophet Muhammad, Peace be upon him. He believed there to be a day when all of human kind would be forgiven of their sins and be allowed into Heaven. He said that until that day, his soul would not see Heaven.
What does he say next? "Should their penance on Earth be eternal too?" Or "tool"? No cc Also, that "what", the gasp Imagine the voice actors at this moment
Remembering his story from last season, he almost sounded scared to think for himself again. Isaac seemed so nice reassuring him doesn't have the answers yet either.
@@kr1spness I think it's more like a cult victim. Remember, he'd been stuck in hell for hundreds of years being conditioned into what he is now. He's bound to be confused about any deviation about it, especially if memories of his human life are trickling through.
Right!!!! Fly eyes was so immersive. Him moving his head around, widening his eyes, inching closer to the camera. Those little expressions sold it to me. Also the raspiness and cadence of the voice acting is sooo goood😭😭😭😭
@@ejva2972 Umm... wasn't the OP referring to Isaac, there? Because I'd say it applies to him as well. Not that he can't emote... it's that he barely ever does despite.
I like when Isaac asks him if he wants another berry and the scholar tone becomes a bit more "human", plus try to immagine that after hundreds of years in hell, where you've problably lost yourself, you start eating something familiar and your old life starts to show in your mind once again.
It makes me wonder if the memories from the berry were related to the doll he was playing with earlier. Makes me wonder if the memories involved a daughter he once had.
These conversations between Issac and the demon(s) are honestly one of the best things to experience in the Castlevania series. So much philosophical content in one 5 minute conversation makes me feel very enlightened. Like a good conversation should.
I find it ironic how individual Night Creatures in Castlevania can exhibit more personality and/or character development than any of the White Walkers in Game of Thrones. Even Dracula himself is an omnicidal creature of the night leading a hellish army, who has far more motivation and complexity than the Night King. And this is with Castlevania adapting a simple video game franchise (where most of the conflicts boil down to “Slay the Dark Lord Dracula: THE END”), while Game of Thrones adapts a gigantic critically acclaimed book series (where the author prides himself on creating nuanced morally ambiguous conflicts, that subvert the cliche of heroes only needing to win the day, by slaying generic dark lords and their equally generic ugly minions).
@@markcobuzzi826 Indeed these moments with the antagonists in Castlevania are amazing. However, I disagree with you about the wightwalkers. They do not need to be morally ambigious. They are quite literally, death. Their function in the story is simpy to pose a doomsday scenario, and see if the charcters we are actually interested in are capable of putting their ambition aside to stop it. It's super allegorical to climate change.
Each time he eats one memories flood in. That what you said and "So many memories" line make this scene really really good. They outdid themselves on dialogues
For sure, Isaac is the best thing about the Netflix Castlevania. Damn good character, totally took me by surprise that they would use him in such a way.
Yes. I have used this line of reasoning a lot in life, a knife can be used for murder or for cuisine, a pillow for comfort or choking someone in their sleep. It is a good philosophy to embed in your mind. You would see a lot much differently.
2:20 I love how Flyeyes is neutral and doens't meddle in Isaac's decision, he doens't say if his chanhe is good or bad, he lets his master decide what's good for him. If Isaac realy decide be good and help humans any way, his warning that he's changing is good news for Isaac to carry about his redemption, but if he hasn't changed and remains with the same opinions, the warning serves to show that was a moment of weakness for him, so that he comes to his senses and focuses on his goal. Your loyalty is really impressive.
I feel like Castlevania as a whole does that with a lot of characters. Instead of wasting time by using multiple background characters it uses key individuals to get the point across and even dives deep to show the development of the group they symbolize
This actually makes me feel strangely bad about how much fun Trevor and Sypha have killing Demons. They were or are people too, and are not past the point of redemption. There are still emotions and empathy behind those claws, fangs and murderous intentions.
Hard to say. It's a tough issue and a tough question. In the case of Night Creatrues specifically: The souls were individuals released from Hell inhabiting bodies that weren't originally theirs and had to be murdered to be made available for Night Creatures to be forged with. One could see Sypha and Trevor killing them as a means of releasing or purging them. Not to mention, even if the creatures still had semblances of their humanity, those not under Hector or Isaac's direct command as seen here are rampaging without any real purpose.
@@Mediados Exactly, but that's what I'm saying: Only those under Isaac's direct guidance are free to grow to be more than just monsters of destruction. Those without his leadership or those under most if not any of the other Forgemasters' control indulge in violence and carnage. Thus Sypha and Trevor and such aren't really given much of an option when a fanged monster lunges at them after ripping someone else's face off.
@@Mediados Think of it the same way Dracula’s situation is (I’m reaching because I’m light on the subject, but bear with me). From what I’m to understand, every time he’s brought back over the course of the games, he’s less and less the ‘man’ and villain we get to know in the show, and more a beast with power overwhelming. For the average person, a night beast is the eventuality of a normal person being put through the ringer Drac is, with even less agency. Them being “able” to be changed does not equate to people having the survivability or openness of mind, to try while under attack. And trying to do so one by one runs a dread risk of the night beast “playing along” just to betray them at the right opportunity, because whether or not it can be done, there will always be more dead than living, and the numbers have it.
Its hard to say. Not all demons are the same. There are probably much more that love their "job" and wouldnt think of changing for anything. Remember. A lot of them were murderers and other hard criminals. This demon was a philosopher in life that made one mistake before dying. It's not hard to imagine this one might have held on to his mind and humanity more than others.
I can see why this anime is so beloved, these moments are something that has been lost in a lot of anime. Just two characters being able to stop from the action to talk about something meaningful
@@onyekachukwumukwumereije799 it is an anime Just like Hellsing/Full Metal Alchemist/Attack on titan etc. Just bc its not made in japan dosent make it less of an anime The creator has even created anime himself in the past
Isaac gives him berries to show him human compassion just as the Captain gave Isaac water to teach him how humans can also be capable of good. These characters don't merely tell you philosophical things, they live it.
Being a fan of the old school Castlevania games, I really figured my favorite character was going to be Trevor. Although I greatly enjoyed how they wrote Trevor, I found myself glued to the screen and hanging on every word of Isaac’s dialog throughout seasons 3 & 4. He was easily my favorite character, especially cuz of all of these little philosophical talks he has with folks on his journey.
I imagine these are night creatures who have been used for centuries by other forge master, with only the intent to kill. They are probably utterly baffled and disturbed by the fact Issac has stopped having them kill. Many of them probably got to the point that they forgot they could even converse or think for themselves since they had been used for so long
change is a real factor to a beings existence. action do set your worth though, and Isaac will have to pay a debt for all the lives he has taken. It’s also sad to see that this change came after the evil has already been done
He is one of the best animated poc characters that I've seen treated with respect and care in terms of exploring him and his motivations. I'm sure there are others out there but I experienced Castlevania as a great exposure of a rich world brought to life. And he feels so damn real too
Isaac is pretty much Paul of Tarsus in the scriptures. A former loyal follower of the strict code of Dracula, but once Isaac was banished to the desert by his Master Dracula, Isaac found redemption and learned compassion, just like Paul did on the road to Demascus.
The way he said memories really stuck with me. He’s been a night creature for so long that he almost forgot about the time he was human. This grotesque fly monster was once a man he had life maybe a family and after he’s sent to hell carnage,blood and murder was all he had seen and done. But centuries after when he tastes a berry he remembers his time as a human. This show is so good
Honestly this is a much more realistic approach to these kinds of creatures. If they can just be summoned, have superhuman strength, abilities like flight, and are immune to diseases, you essentially have an immortal disaster response force. Isaac's argument that their penance is better served not for violence and destruction, but by creating something of worth, seems very sensible.
Isaacs character arc and dialogue were probably the best part of this series. You really appreciate the importance of great writing when you can be captivated by two characters just sitting down talking.
I’m impressed they made an interesting character and it’s very different from the original, but the writing of the character is what makes it phenomenal
No, he’s giving people a second chance to reach heaven by lifting their souls from hell and putting them in night creatures. “One day, Hell will be empty and it’s doors will rattle in the wind”.
@@AdrianMartinez-en1nb Night Creatures are the souls that died and got sent to hell being shoved into dead bodies. So FlyEyes here and ALL of his army used to be people. Isaac's ideology is changing where he views himself as the care taker of the damned. One day he will give all of hell a chance to reclaim their humanity on Earth by making them night creatures until Hell is empty.
I love the fact that in the first talk between isaac and demon philosopher isaac was the startled one but in this one it is the demon that has startled because Isaac is now has a clear mind and has objectives rather than being lost.
A series like this cannot end so soon... Not when there is still so much to see and so many things to think about... Not when there are so many piles of tasteless protein slime that people call entertainment on television, streaming websites, and movie screens. Not when a vengeful man looks upon a Hell Beast and tells him he can be more...
I love this scene so much. It does such a great job of showing why Isaac decided to change courses. He pulled a reverse Dr. Frankenstein and decided to emotionally support and guide his creations. Especially that moment when he emotionally validates his little Demon buddy "for no tool would taste a berry and remember the time in its first live when it encountered them." Isaac is such a great character. Also, the voice work in this show was insanely good.
I love the thought behind the end of this. "Are we still fighting?" * In confusion from the actions on around him * * looking at his soldiers rebuilding * "We are _always_ fighting for something." I love the arc of this character, particularly his conversation with the pirate Captain...... I forget his name (yet don't feel bad- _He did to!)_
i love the fact that they arent exactly arguing or anything, they are talking about their own points and questions respectfully. willing to open up and be receptive
I love how isaac interacts with his creature rather than disregard them and seeing them as tools This connections seems to make stronger demons as well
Like with his fight with Carmella. The way he and that one night creature fight her together. It's not like the way the ones that were sent in before it fight. Before they were just throwing themselves at Carmella to weaken and exhaust her, even though none truly got through her defenses. But the one that fight alongside Isaac fights differently, acting in perfect sync and tandem to both feint and take hits that Isaac wouldn't be able to withstand. That kind of style and perfect synchronization isn't that of a wild, rabid beast fighting for blood, it's the movements and style of a combatant who values his allies as equals and is perfectly in tune with them. And it only comes from a mixture of a close bond and utter trust in one another.
A knife is the most important tool you can ever have in a survival situation. Though a knife can only cut, it facilitates tools, fire, food, and shelter. Most think a knife is only meant to kill. It is not. A knife is meant to cut. What that knife cuts is up to the wielder.
I find a dialogue so enlightening because here we have a weapon maker and a weapon. Both in a transitional State of affairs. Talking about the possibility of being more then what they currently are. It's both thoughtful and insightful.
Isaac sounds so peaceful compared to his tone in terms of his philosophy and general world view. It is so satisfying to see his journey to truly know who he is as a person and not a tool for someone else's use.
I don't know if it was intentional, but I love the fact that Isaac leaves the berries with Flyeye's. Implying that he is giving him the option to have more without needing to ask for permission. Really emphasizing the fact that to him demons are more than tools.
These scenes are what made me love castlevania cartoons.. I hope to god they keep making them.. the characters are fantastic.. issac is a prime example of a super complex character.. when I tell people i prefer these cartoons rather then real life TV, its scenes like this I refer them to..
I love how isaac doesn't see night creatures as mere tools just to fight for him but sees them as individual souls given another chance in the world of the living
I'm assuming i'm not the only one here that sees the paralells between the demon and his master...and the conversations isaac had with Dracula last season.
Basically, he says that he was originally a philosopher who was executed by the Christians during their rise to power for questioning the world (and by extension, god) and seeking answers to the mysteries of life. His sin was that he betrayed his fellow philosophers to said Christians in exchange for the promise of his safety (which, as you can see, turned out to be a false promise). While he might not be Socrates, he has a lot in common with them and might actually be based on them.
@@vgman94 I was getting metamorphisis and The Fly starring Jeff Goldblum (Which was based on the former) confused and thought Kafka specifically mentioned in his original story that the man changed into a fly (he didn't) - I also thought this was not something instantenous but something that happened over time as a metaphor for a change in personality, outlook, nature etc. Only thing I was going for was that the fly demon - was some sort of visual metaphor for change
