James Harden isn’t a top-5 player in the NBA - Max Kellerman | First Take 

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LOLLL it's fukn funny cuz it's trueeeeee

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I really needed this laugh after Christmas was over

Seriously Hollins was such a joke

this dude is a fucking moron his points do not make sense and hes not funny when he yells like Stephan a smith

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ESPN needs to find a complementary Sports Anchor to Stephen A other than Ryan Hollis because he is an embarrassment as a Professional Sports Anchor

Same at 2:53. Max can't even control how hard his eyes are rolling.

superzayman1 Max’s argument was that Harden’s numbers fall off in the playoffs (which is true, his efficiency drops). If you look at AD’s numbers in the playoffs he plays better than his regular season numbers, and the same goes for Giannis. Your LeBron argument is just so far irrelevant that I’m not even going to reply if you know basketball and momentum works.

superzayman1 what the other guy said plus. Do any of player you mentioned rely on fouls as much as harden? That’s why Harden just deflates in postseason cause refs won’t give him enough fouls.

Kyle Chen Since Harden has been in Houston he averages 28/7/6/2/.5 in the Postseason and has 2 WCF appearances. If CP3 doesn’t go down they might have won the Championship. And the only reason I brought up LeBron is bc they said you had two chance to beat the Warriors and he came up short but the same thing happened to LeBron in the Finals. You can’t beat the Warriors 1 on 4. Giannis and AD may put up good numbers in the Postseason but it doesn’t lead to anything.

In short these guys doesn’t what talking about..

ESPN is about headlines. Harden has a huge profile. Simple enough basketball a game of dynasties. Most greats aren't going to win without another great. Maybe 1 between dynasties. Harden probably won't ever have the best teammates and will walk away ringless. Russ is going to be next. Eventually GA and Davis. Never Luka but that's other reasons.

Harden just single handidly toasted the warriors. Anyone who doesent accept Harden as a top 5 player is the definition of mentally incapable.

Harden is literally so underrated he’s the best player in the league!!! He gets BUCKETS

Harden just shutting up these fools that havent watched him since he took over Houston. Hell get his recognition. Hes showing it now.

He's top 10

Definitely a top 5 player

Brando Williams facts

Big facts!!!

U sound like a hater if bron or curry got to the line that often no problem there right

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eddie hhh they actually do get to the line that often he just really doesnt watch basketball

Flexinn good list, I like it

On point

Flexinn Harden for AD easily. Harden carries his entire Rockets team which would be like the cavs without him.

no Greek Greek

AD hasn’t accomplished a fucking thing in the playoffs. We give him way to much credit. Most of his talent comes from his height. If you put him at Hardens height it wouldn’t be close lmao.

Dylan Lafleur Probably, thinking about to come up with a new argument. he’s knows nothing. Harden is just greatness!

Dylan Lafleur hell yeah😂😂💯

Altamash Majeed Wani Nah, James Harden’ always tries really hard in the regular season but not in the playoffs he is just burnt out.

Altamash Majeed Wani he just got clapped by the warriors again, sorry buddy playoffs is where it’s at

When you hit someone’s arms when they shoot it makes it hard to drain the shot... this happened 3 times in game 7, he also made a shot with the foul and they didn’t count the basket, gave him just side out of bounds. The refs sucked warriors dick last year

Snake you are making excuses because your used to harden getting every call

Snake That shit never happened

Lmao he imitates the contact. They stop calling that bullshit in the playoffs ;)

@IslangDong317 he never gets the call tho

GuelphRacing thanks bronem🤣

Cheers mate!

God Bless

Guelph, ON?

Thanks bro. You too.

Jon155 boo

HELL NO

@@Erick-io5xi Yes. Deal with it

@@aminallam4188 Lmao

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Do you know him personally to know that that's not his true personality or are you just hating/talking shit for no real reason guy?

this is tv. everyone is trying too hard.

He doesnt seem very articulate. Which makes it seem like he doesnt know wat hes talking about

Kellerman and Stephen A are just good actors, none of these guys have anything smart to say

@@Lakersfansince95 I listen to him on the radio and he definitely tries way to hard to be funny. He's actually a smart dude, but on the radio he's annoying as fuck.

VINAYAK BHAT w

Lol

Bruh 💀

This convo went 0 to 100 in record time

I was thinking the same thing 😅

Top 5 5. Harden 4. Curry 3. Giannis 2. Lebron 1. Kawhi

C0brazz SZN kd...

Cornell Cannon 😵

Your a dumb ass

bro how u get mad at harden for shit the refs do? lmao if he flops and they keep calling it i would keep flopping too

max has some good arguments BUT the pels without AD is probably as good as Rockets without Harden. and harden is getting more wins with the rockets then AD with the pels

Max is always right because he uses logic and reason

thats a gather step..its legal in all ball clubs now

An people want to get on IT for doing the same thing .

the entire NBA gets away with travels... what’s ur point ???

serialkiller77 man stop the bull shit

serialkiller77 he doesn’t make the calls

Nah.. Lebum KD Curry Leonard Davis Gianni's And everyone else

Your dumb

I'm sorry but the best right now is Harden then Curry Durant James George Leonard Antetoukounmpo That's only my opinion but feel free to state your opinions in my list

How is KD above Curry when Curry is outplaying him on the team? Come on now. Lebron- It's Lebron. AD- He's having a monster season, still averaging a double-double I'm sure. Curry- Having a monster season even despite his injury.. just killing it. KD- Having a decent season for KD standards but it's because the ball's in Curry's court. Harden- I'm sorry but we cannot ignore these 40-50 point games Harden is consistently dropping.. His AST and REB are decent too. He may not be a consistent player and definitely not consistent in the playoffs.. But for Regular season MVP, he's in the top 5 conversation. It's arguable but I could even put him over KD.

Suinade what basketball are u watching? Kd leads golden state. Fuck are u talking about. If it wasnt for him they would have never got 2 rings back to back.

@Connor Hess come playoffs he wont show up

His dumbass would rather have Harden over Giannis

Connor Hess how is the reigning mvp of the league not top 3 ?

@@Villaincollection Lebron, KD, Curry, Kawhi. I would argue that these are all better players than Harden. It's a stetch to consider him a top 3 player even if he is the reigning Mvp. The year Westbrook won I didn't automatically put him in my top 3.

@@Villaincollection What a stupid fucking thing to say.

5. LeBron on the bench*

I'll take kd any day just my opinion but i respect yours too though cause if kd isn't available give me Bron. But if kobe or Mj are around give me either player over kd or Bron.

Munashe Msipa LeBron on the bench by far is the best player in the world.

You edited and still spelled flu, flue 😂😂😂

His beard looks like a baby bib

It became a free for all hack-a-rocket...refs swallowed their whistles in those games.

Haha well it just happened

how come james cant pull a win during game 6 without kd?

TX Boss what success? Harden got a chip??? I ain’t think so all of them same level when it comes to playoff talk.FOH

Kanny Mytil when have those 2 been to a conference finals or a finals ..... yes he haven’t won yet but he went further then they have...... I would love to see u replace curry with harden on this team without another all star and see him carry us night in and night out so u FOH nigga

Kanny Mytil how many times has AD been in the playoffs? Twice??? With the first being a sweep? Lmao there’s a big difference bruhhh but yea keep that mindset up

@@loopyzz you dumb if you think harden better than AD

Agree, AD will get swept by GSW or won't even make the playoffs and Bucks with Greek Freak will get eliminated by Boston & Kyrie. Basically Harden>Giannis&AD. If AD is this ''superstar'' he at least should carry them team in playoff spot like Harden currently does.

J. SMITH I guess Carmelo Anthony is that man and JR Smith too because everybody has something to say about them 😂

Facts

@@darrinhedges4034 Jr has a major reason for hate and he doesnt even get alot of hate have whens the last time u talked about Jr or even heard about him

@@craigbelto4351 couple days ago

Craig belto and so does harden. no one likes his game outside of rockets fans. it's gimmicky. either a step back 3 or a foul

Offensively yes. All around player the others out match him

All star players can match him, if not, are definitely better than him. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE

Zay- ellé hahah other all stars can outmatch him??!! Your funny

hes a system player who shoots 20 free throws a game, the fuck does he do dude? lmao

nabil chowdhury argument for Westbrook lmao just stop

he's the most efficient player in the league besides giannis who just dunks

@@DanikonLUK bad fg% helped by his flops who doesn't play defense. He can shoot, finish, and pass really well making him top 10, but just that and not more which is GOOD!

Sacastic right thats not efficient thats average

@@austinclubb2093 He doesnt play defense but is number 4 in steals in the nba. And an elite shot blocker for a guard. 42% fig isnt bad for 41 points and a win.

Can't argue with fact don't try. grndvL is right.

You said two of them kd and bron, also kawhi, curry, AD, and Giannis. All of them are more complete players than harden

Yeah he says a diff player is not a T5 player every week

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@@Craig-bo5fl who us senior

if lebron isn't allowed to travel, flop, and push off is it the same thing?

First person to finally point out the obvious...harden literally gets handed points

FACTS

He once had 27 points and had 2 field goals.... call me crazy but he's got some serious foul hunting powers

Alen Ajradinović lmao he also leads the league in turnovers

Ese Omoru no he didn’t shut up bruh😭🤦🏾‍♂️

Ese Omoru damn really? Haha

@Space Alien lmfao

Shourya Sangam whenever ad has been in the playoffs he has dominated

His point was Harden shouldn't be MVP due to playoff performance, not top 5.

wolf_6 so AD get beat by the warriors 4-1 and Giannis is a first round exit yet they’re top 5? Okay

since you did not understand anything i resay it again for you. James Harden Offense is at or maybe a tiny little bit better than LB,AD,KD,Claw, Freek, Curry.....his defense is worst than Curry and Curry Defense is avg at best. on top of that dude gets 5 to 8 PT from freethows that he does not deserve. to top it off...James Harden chokes in the playoffs every single year. he is not TOP 5. deal with it.

Well his argument is not an argument at all, it's a hypocrite list, he just puts at the top whoever he likes more and he tries to make an argument for it, by bringing players he doesn't like down and praising players he likes for their defense and their offenses being "simmilar". No they are not. Their offense is miles different. gtfo.

People seem to not count steals as decent defense. To stay comfortably within the top 5 in steals while leading by a HUGE margin in scoring (difference between Harden and #2 is like 4 ppg, and difference between 2 and 3 is like 0.5) and also being one of the best playmakers in the league speaks volumes about his game.

Bro LeBron is the media’s golden boy they don’t see anyone else greatness only ppl like u and me see what he has done by himself like getting to western conference twice by yourself with injured team before cp got there doesn’t hold no value and then last year when he is by himself against 4 all star in the last two game they say he’s trash cause the talent level is somehow even I don’t even bother argue with these idiot no more he’s definitely a top 5 player and a legend a system is a system it doesn’t make a player better great players make plays and that something he’s done before Danton’s was even there that’s like saying mj isn’t mj without Phil triangle system these guy always contradicting themselves

Chris paul doesnt count as allstar?

Houston had the best record last season. The team was designed to beat the Warriors. They had long tenacious defenders to guard Durant and Klay and 3-ball assasins to much and possibly overpower any opponent. Kevin Love is soft. Capella is a match better defender and paint player who gives any big problems. KLove can't handle Draymond. It's all about matchups. But to top it all, even without CP3, it's tough to excuse a superstar from closing out a series by losing 3 straight games as Harden and Houston did. What is even worse is that Harden in big moments in the playoffs has a reputation of being a colossal chocker. That's irrefutable. This was not a one-off thing. Other than the Western Conference finals in 2012 when he touched the Spurs, he has disappeared during big moments.

mudr kk the rockets were expected to lose with cp so what are you really saying the defense is going to change if CP isn’t on the court my guy they have the ability to double harden if CP is not on the court so obviously his game is going to change you can replace harden with kd , curry and klay they all would still lose if CP isn’t on the court along side them

Nah he lost in second round without paul and lost the game that paul was injured. He needs paul to go deep

take lebron out, the real unbiased top 5 would be KD, harden, curry, kawhi, and then maybe lebron

😂😂😂

Infinite LITERALLY 😂😂😂😂

He not the worst ball player if he in the league and we watching on TV lmao.

Worst analyst - Paul Pierce.

jalepeno89 paul pierce had veteran first hand experience. Ryan averaged 3 points his whole career

Worst analyst contender is Chris Webber for sure

ChantonsLamour nigga what

I thought your profile picture was hair on my screen. Lol

@nabil chowdhury oh you can't be serious than who is

Bottom 5, maybe?!?

That doesn't make his points less valid tho. Like Marie Curie isn't a top-5 scientist of all time, but her points were still valid

Noneof them are good just fake opinionated idiots with no careers in any sportss

Wait he's an actual analyst?

Not even top 20...

Then it would be 1 game winner then... are you slow?

@@ktat01 Well, that's still 2 more big-time shots than Curry now isn't it?

What do you mean “this didn’t age well”? That’s not the point max was trying to argue.

Why do you hate the rockets? Y’all always beat us. If anything the rockets should hate lilard and the blazers.

@@mushtacular9399 I hate the style of basketball the Rockets use, it's not fun to watch. Lots of iso ball. That's why it never works in the playoffs, because refs won't call as many fouls.

Akylas Strat he has tho 🧐

He can't win in Milwaukee.

Of course he has.

1- he has 2- I don’t think giannis is forsure top 5 but he’s begged than harden cause he’s a choke

well he's on his 4th year in the nba compared to hardens 9th year in the nba, and the bucks second best player is middleton compared to cp3

michelle rarere damn this is true at least he made it to game 7 lol

@@RickyB256 People also forget Harden made it to the Finals and faced the Warriors the 1st time without another All Star in 2015.

michelle rarere hey did u know they were up 3-2 and harden blew a 2 game lead without chris paul😂

Random Guy is Harden supposed to beat the greatest team ever assembled by himself? Lmfao you casuals bore me.

Moosa Hussain no but those 27 missed threes in a row might have helped him imbecile

lost first series probably lol.. those guys haven't even made a deep playoff run yet. And these guys bitching on harden cuz is season Mvp who lost against the warriors on conference finals without cp3.. also crying cuz harden is not worth bein the MVP over AD and Gianni's cuz for them Harden is only good at regular season, I mean.. AD and Gianni's also have been mvp mode on regular season, can't even make a deep playoff run lol..but probably they didn't notice that

LMAO carry them to the playoffs then completely disappear when the playoffs actually start. You saying what have they done in the playoffs lmao harden has literally done nothing BUT choke. EVERY year lol

+sebastian sanchez you dumb or what?? he averaging nearly 30PPG on the playoffs but lost to the GSW, it's a fact GSW is a very hard team to beat.. he literally had 1 bad game. Shot 2-13 on game 7 without cp3 warriors double teamed him, ariza shot 0-12 Gordon 9-22 and you expect Harden bein double teamed to outscore KD,Klay steph?? lol and if lossing to the warriors = choking means all other teams choked in the playoffs lol.. Nice logic btw

JB 1121433 JB 1121433 lmao this is why people that don’t know sports shouldn’t try to condescended others. cause clearly you don’t know shit. First and foremost, if you’re JUST talking last season then clearly that just proves I’m right because harden has CHOKED away previous playoff series in the past. Since you’re probably like 14 then go ahead and google his last 5 postseasons and see how they all ended. But okay let’s talk about last year. He averaged 28.7 off 41% from the field and TWENTY FOUR from 3 😂😂 that’s HORRIBLE. Oh yeah and 5 turnovers a game lol. And yeah no shit Trevor ariza has always been trash in crunch time and cp3 always gets injured in the playoffs. What’s your point? How does that take away from hardens individual performance ? And I said he choked cause he lost to the warriors ? No I didn’t 😂😂 “nice logic btw” lmao dipshit. And even if, let’s say harden balled out last year in the wcf, HOW does have ANYTHING to do with all the other playoffs lol. Look it up I know you’re a jit probably so you don’t remember but please take the time and do it. Dudes been choking since the finals against the heat when he deadass disappeared. I know he was young so he gets a slight break for that but what’s his excuse now? See you don’t know shit and a lot of people don’t know shit about sports. It’s just a bunch of lazy analysis nothing in depth. Let’s not forget harden leads the league in turnovers basically every year and usage right. I hate you dumbasses. You see “oh he had 30 points and 9 assists he was amazing” no dipshit, there’s this thing called efficiency. That’s why these fake ass superstars like Paul George and harden and Westbrook are frauds. Because they do all this shit in the regular season but they ain’t shit in the postseason. You don’t know shit but continue to thinking you do

Their points of argument is a perfectly obvious double standard when it comes to James Harden. Just a reminder to you, The year Westbrook won MVP yet he lost to Houston with 1-4, not even passing the first round. But Harden, oh hell no, you gotta carry your team to the final...LMFAO and SMH

Tyler Ellis , James Harden is a great shooter but can not stand on his own, he always needs the referees assistance to to do so!

Kawhi was beating GS before he got injured. Not saying they would have won but they might have also been able to push to 7 games.

Tyler Ellis James harden had the pleasure of having Cp3, ariza, Tucker, capela doing monster work defensively and shooting the lights out, let’s not act like harden is the lone wolf

Kawhi could have tried and it would be close.

Lebron came back from 3-1 idiot

Gsw destroyed AD (cant even do anything) , lebron got swept and lost in 5 when he had kyrie love, giannis isnt even in the discussion, harden went to the game 7

While at the same time saying Giannis ISNT an MVP CANDIDATE. Ryan Hollins just says this stuff for attention.

KingNat tell me how he isn’t top 5. Name 5 better players and why

Harden gets stats because he plays system which is made for him, to create, to pass, to score and he does it really good. His stats are crazy. But as I said that, in the playoffs EVERYTHING RELIES ON HARDEN. Nobody in the NBA has had more pressure to perform as good as he does (maybe lebron but he is proven beast in the playoffs), because every fucking offensive possesion relies on him. And he gets gassed, he gets tired. But he leads his teams to the playoffs, he leads them to the conference finals multiple times, and has a lot of playoff wins on his resume as the by far the best player in Houston. Giannis and AD haven't even shown yet if they are capable of it. So Harden is a top 4 player right now, right after lebron, curry and KD.

Nah my guy looking like Walmart C.J. McCollum

Fact's Nash never deserved a MVP

Big Boss we all know kobe was mvp that year im sure even nash knew

As a Nash fan...Max is right. Look at Nash in Dallas...he got better in the Mike D system and blossomed

Are you being silly or just dumb??

Straight up and I'm not a Lin fan but that boy was cooking and he put that team on his back for a decent stretch

FvckWitDreDay no harden aint a top 5, max is delusional when he says kd is not a top 5 though

All LeBron

Top 5:Lebron,Kd,curry,kawhi,Ad

Ad giannis kawhi curry Bron U can disagree but it ain't crazy to pick these 5 guys

treyvone scott Listen, I am NOT a fan of Harden AT ALL!!! But not a top 5? The current MVP? Come on fam what are we doing here? Bron, KD, Curry, AD & Harden. (Kawhi & Giannis honourable mentions) I don’t think Harden is better than Kawhi btw. But right now, Harden is top 5, simple. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Yeah MJ shot a lot of free throws, but Harden gets more calls than MJ got. For one, MJ didn't flop

MJ didn’t have more career free throw attempts than field goal attempts tho, to say Jordan was shooting FT’s at near the same rate as Harden is ridiculous. Also team success doesn’t directly correlate to a players skill level because the Bucks and the Pelicans have just been bad teams with generational talents on them, opposed to the rockets who have a HOF coach, had a deep bench full of shooters and defenders last year, and a top 5 Point guard. Also when Harden got to the finals he played abysmally

Giannis is only 24 with no real second star and had a roll of duct tape as a coach last year. We will see how it goes this year. Woulda been nice to see AD with Boogie but that didn’t pan out.

@@jackkorinek3630 So we just forgot that before coming into the season westbrook won mvp that everyone had the rockets not even being a playoff team because "he aint good" and "the team in deep" but when those players fall in line with harden and they have good seasons because of him its because he has a loaded team?

Harden has been deeper in the playoffs than AD & Giannis but his performances in playoffs are always trash dudes a choke artist always has been.

PovicWorld bro i'd have to be on drugs to agree w max

JayronzHD X win a chip then. Y’all must not remember the media before bron won a ring?

Why do you act like it's so surprising? He gets foul calls for flopping and grabbing players arms

JayronzHD X he’s ass and dookie

Watching the rockets is so boring because he slows the pace of the game with going to the line as often as he does

@@saxboss1 don't watch the rockets then stupid 😂

Jermaine Mitchell he said lebron, AD, Greek freak, kawhi, KD and they are all better than harden

Jermaine Mitchell lmaoo

DatBoiiDee e max said KD wasn’t even top 5 😭

kevin mitchell thank you. Max is the worst

kevin mitchell well he said KD is number 5 and he’s fighting for the 5 spot.

apark02 and where are they in the playoffs? Oh right choking Harden is def a top 3

They are 24 yrs old

Giannis Has shown up in the 4th quater a bunch of times

@@SuperRainbowpoop Harden 30 yrs old and aint did shit but lose and quit in the playoffs. Team went down 3-2 so he quit and shot 2 shots in the first half of the next game. Not to mention he got that who ever defense...that blow by defense. Last time he was in the finals was because he was with KD n Russ and he choked in that finals too. He wass 22 yrs old in that finals n didnt do shit. Kyrie was 22 yrs old in the finals dropping 40. Gtfo Harden overated asf

Harden has more years in the playoffs then AD and Giannis have in the NBA. That why people have them better then Harden

He only mentions that when talking about harden, as if the Rockets can't pass the 1st round or something

because he's 5 years younger than harden and has been in the league for 4 years compared to hardens 9 years

​@@ashtonmap7148 Exactly! So why exactly are we trying to put him over Harden when he hasn't done nothing? He has to win some more awards and play some tough playoff games to even be considered, This proves that niggas just be propping players up in a effort to diminish James Harden. James is a MVP, that alone instantly puts him over guys AD, Giannis, and yes even Kawhi Leonard. What does Lebron, KD, Steph, & JH all have in common? MVPs! Thats the top four in whatever order you wanna flip it.

@@mblackman1170 The argument is Harden was never an mvp candidate at 24 and was barely in the voting at 25, yes he has achieved more success over than giannis and ad, but giannis and ad have achieved more success earlier on.

@Mikey Gray lol middleton bledsoe brogdon = crappy team? Good one. I still think he's better than Harden but we have to start holding Giannis accountable for the playoffs.

Brian Buz 😂😂😂 I know he stupid

Same thing I was thinking, jesus

RYEN FRESCO! 😂😂😂

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How can you respect flopping ass player that is dependent on getting those calls from the refs! Fake mvp

FUCK JAMES HARDEN

Makes sense he does just get awarded free throws for no reason

Daequan BagMan does he though? He plays in a technical advantage due to him abusing his power which by all means is wrong but look a d wade ( if you even know who he is) performed the broken pump fake which was also abused and put him at the line nearly everytime which is why I say how does he go there for no reason lol. Learn the NBA before you decide to join the train of hating on harden

Mohammed Islam how is his roster worse than ad ?! The pelicans start fucking Tim Frazier as their point... And have a ton of injuries... That's all I gotta say really

Lam Edwin eLFRid Payton got injured. And the fucking rockets started a g league player in Danuel house the other day. Jrue holiday is also better than Cp3 at this point. anD MIRTOIC is way better than Eric gordon.

Big facts people be sleeping on Harden big time. The fact that max says playoffs count against harden is ludacris and contradictory being that hes been farther than AD and Giannis lmao.

Mohammed Islam THAT IS BLASPHEMY

Tony Fresh wtf are these guys smoking Julius Randle is averaging a double double of the bench and u still have Mirotic and Holiday. We have the forever injured version of CP3, Capela and a bunch of random wings

Dane W

Usage rating 36% landslide

So 25 players in the 3pt era have had 35+ usage in a single season with over 500 minutes played and out of all of those 2018-19 Harden is: 7th in PER 7th in WS/48 4th in PTS/36 4th in AST/36 1st in TS%

There is no Number for his Blow by defense. His whoever defense. Player blow past him and he just chops at the ball lmao. Do He even attempt to block shots? Wade average a block a game so dont give that SG shit. And is this regular season stats??? Who give a shit about regular season

Well there’s 124 PG/SG that have played over 300 minutes this season and Harden is 7th in Steals/36 and 20th in Blocks/36. It’s really hard to defend his effort on defense most of the time but I didn’t know we determine the MVP by looking at half of their game. His OBPM is first out of all guards and its 1.6 higher than Curry who is second and 3.2 higher than Kyrie who’s third. His offensive contributions are just too high to exclude him from MVP talks because he has average or below average defense. Also yeah I’d say the regular season is important when the original comment is addressing them talking about a regular season award.

Courtney Jones 28.5 points, 5 rebounds and 7 assists actually. Even better than you thought!

Does field goal percentage not matter to you guys? 41% is not that good

@@jstdun 41% not good? Smh i can't waste anymore time replying to a ignorant comment like that!

jstdun its not the best youre right but it is in the playoffs so naturally his fg% would go down

@@YoREalDaddy on 22 shots a game. That is shooting 9/22. When you see a guy with that boxscore he typically had an off game. I'm not saying it's bad. It's just not going to win you games when it matters

Sensei Damageyourmulz He’s not better than LeBron He’s not better than Steph He’s not better than AD He’s not better than Kawhi He’s not better than Giannis He’s not better than KD Not top 5

Charles Washington except he’s literally better than all 5 of them stats speak for themselves

Daniel stats lol

Daniel no they don’t look at usage rating look at the system and percentages, stats don’t mean much if their Similar and can’t put up against the best teams

False. Russell Westbrook did that Edit:: Well I guess he was like 60 assists off but he got more rebounds and points

the team is nothing without harden

nigga, he averages 32 on 22 shots

I fully agree I think the league should address the way that they call defense of falls if an offensive player initiates contact they shouldn't be bailed out with a call 80 percent of harden points come from the foul line he shoots 20 free throws a game no exaggeration

Smart finnaly someone with a brain

@@samuelakinfenwa6532 nah they still a playoff team

davis is lightskin, so he is proected just like curry

3 mvps lmao no

LeBron should have all the mvps

TheAfroSamurai so true

Very good reasoning you have. But! He isn't top 5 "ANYMORE". He was top 5 last year. So look at why he dropped out?... giannis is dominate and has a great team record. Look at how kwahi and how efficient he is. LeBron and curry and KD are better no doubt. So that leave him 6th or 7th best

Rushie He didn’t. He compared their situation. The inflation of stats because of D’Antoni’s system.

Loudmein Josh Harden is not top 5... LBJ, KD, AD, Curry, Kawhi, Giannis are all better... Hardens whole game is dribble dribble dribble, drive left or step back right and shoot a three... His game isn’t as effective in the playoffs because the refs don’t give him all of those tic tac calls... I still don’t get why fans think he’s such a great shooter... He takes so many 3’s, he’s bound to make some... Last night he took 35 shots to get 40 points... His big 50 point triple double game, he took 40 shots... He has the ball in his hands the entire time he’s on the floor... I just don’t think he’s as good as people say he is...

Dj Garrett you don’t have to explain nothing to this dumbass

@@djgarrett1625 and he averages 32 by doing u sound dumb. Because he dribbles so much 30 points is nothing now?

And chokes every time lol Ad got put out by golden state and Giannis got put out by the celtics who clearly were stacked yall stop you put harden on either of those teams and they dont make the playoffs

daddyjeff27 AD got outplayed by the Warriors’ 4th best player in Draymond in that series, while Giannis had Middleton who averaged 25 on 60% and still lost to a Celtics team led by a rookie in scoring.

I agree AD and Giannis are highly overrated tom me. Shit AD has a legit good team this year and is in the 14th spot n the West.

@@daddyjeff27 harden got put out by gsw in 7 it took 5 for them to take ad out try again

Kai ThaGuy how is AD is underrated? Ad is definitely a top 3/4 player in the nba. Like everybody knows that AD is going to be the best player in the nba here soon. James harden has a hall of fame point guard on his side. Imagine AD having cp3

Absolutely. He's in the 7-10 range....I'd put him seventh behind Lebron, KD, Giannis, Kawhi, Curry, Davis.

Jeff Brisson dude giannis better than steph or Ad ?🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

LeBron KD AD Kawhi Giannis Steph Harden Russ Embiid Kyrie/Dame/PG

makis papachristou best list I’ve seen so far

@@makis7383 Curry is the second best player in the world. To not even have him in the top 5 is absurd

Dude Harden is not better than Lebron, KD, AD, Kawhi, Giannis and Curry. Even if you believe that he is saying that he is not is a valid opinion even if you disagree.

It’s football. The fuck outta here with that soccer shit

@@carloseduardoazevedodossan36 He's better than AD and Giannis becaue he's more accomplished and has done more with less.

Was that supposed to be sarcasm? Because Max is right, Harden is NOT top 5. Dude picks and chooses when to play defense and chokes in the biggest moments.

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ËlŸ mvp doesn’t make you the best player. It just means you’re the most valuable to your team and can score points or help carry them. But harden is a flopper master

That was LeBrons MVP that Harden stole

@Female Body Is The Hottest Thing Ever A triple double who cares. Triple doubles are overrated now.

hes not better then Lebron , Curry, Durant, Davis, kyrie, or leonard

@Female Body Is The Hottest Thing Ever the thunder wins without westbrook the cavs r one of tje worst teams in the whole nba without lebron so lebron is more valuable

TRIICKSHOTQUIC W everybody out here talking about he’s a choker but I haven’t seen anyone else even come close to where the Rockets got

cecil sarfo Lost all credibility with Steph choked reference! 26.5 and 7 including a scorching 37 in the crucial game 5 says otherwise...