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Jim Cornette Suggests Shawn Michaels EXAGGERATED His Back Injury? (A&E Biography Review) 

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Solomonster answers a listener question regarding recent comments made by Jim Cornette about Shawn Michaels and his back injury from 1998. Was the injury as serious as it was made out to be? Plus, thoughts on the A&E biography on Michaels, which went more in-depth on his drug issues than you may think, what Triple H's routine was for Shawn each night on the road, showing up in rough shape backstage at the Raw/Nitro simulcast show and more.
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@X2Magneto
@X2Magneto 3 года назад
I don't blame Cornette. If you cry wolf enough people stop believing you. Remember Shawn lied about his knee in 97 because he didn't want to drop the belt to Bret at WM 13.
@ranielalmaria6612
@ranielalmaria6612 3 года назад
Yeah Shawn "lost his smile".
@volodymyrbilyk555
@volodymyrbilyk555 3 года назад
Michaels is triple crown forfeiter
@thatstoobad3023
@thatstoobad3023 3 года назад
He actually was told that it was career ending
@X2Magneto
@X2Magneto 3 года назад
@@thatstoobad3023 No he was not. The WWE people all say that he wouldn't let them speak to the doctor that diagnosed him. The 'Lost my smile' bit was literally the moment they knew that they had all been taken.
@user-do2ev2hr7h
@user-do2ev2hr7h Год назад
And Cornette didn't even say it wasn't a legitimate injury, just that it probably didn't have to be "career ending" but the wrestling standards of the time. As Cornette said, almost any wrestler working back then could have shown a doctor a tape of them wrestling and asked "should I continue to do this with my injury history?" and gotten a "no" in response.
@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy 3 года назад
0:00 Shawn Michaels paid 15,000 per week while on injury 1:30 Shawn Michaels A&E Documentary 2:32 Marty Jennetty 3:12 Vince McMahon 4:39 Montreal 5:20 DX Nightly Routine 6:20 The Doink Run In story 8:32 A New Shawn Michaels 9:44 Jim Cornette 10:31 Natural Rehab, until 1999 Back Surgery 11:22 Doctors gave him the Ending message
@146zigzag3
@146zigzag3 3 года назад
My take is the back injury kept him out in 98/99 and his demons is what kept him out in 00/01,, plus his doubt he could be the performer he was before.
@ThunderForce2000
@ThunderForce2000 3 года назад
I’ve always believed Bret and Bischoff that they never planned to have Bret show up with the Championship in WCW. Even if Bischoff wanted to I believe Bret would have flat out refused to do it no matter what Bischoff said to him.
@Lord_Bibulous
@Lord_Bibulous 3 года назад
That may be true. But even Bret leaving as the recognized Champion wouldn't have been good for WWE.
@ststriker
@ststriker 3 года назад
I think it was more a case of if Bret didn't drop the title before leaving people would have this perception that the uncrowded WWF champion was now in WCW since he would not have lost the title.
@ThunderForce2000
@ThunderForce2000 3 года назад
@Old Age Bret turned down a 9 million dollars 3 year deal to jump to WCW in 1996 and only went to WCW in 1997 because Vince McMahon forced him out. Bret comes across as one of those wrestlers who wasn’t into wrestling solely for money.
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 3 года назад
@Old Age It depends on what act is and bret seems like he wouldn't do something like that no matter how much you threw at him. Honor doesn't have a price Tag
@Bama20512
@Bama20512 3 года назад
Legally that would’ve been impossible
@QuackMamba34
@QuackMamba34 3 года назад
I think Shawn was legit hurt. But I don't think his back injury was bad enough to keep him out 4 years. I think it was mainly him cleaning up his act.
@tomb_vision
@tomb_vision 3 года назад
I agree
@EM-tg4ft
@EM-tg4ft 2 года назад
Listen I had back surgery 5 years ago and I'm perfectly fine. The difference between me and Shawn is I have a 3 level fusion and he only had l4 and l5 fused...I had s1-l4 fused so I'm not as flexible as Shawn, but he did have surgery. What does he need to do show you mofo's his scar on his back? Fuck Jim he's a nutcase and a stalker. Unless you have Shawn's medical records then keep your assumptions to yourself.
@vincegonzalez6804
@vincegonzalez6804 Год назад
Yeah I think maybe 3 years was back rehab but I think he would’ve gotten cleared by 2001 but his addictions were at an all time high during that time
@tonymaurice4157
@tonymaurice4157 Год назад
I don't Think he had back fusion surgery
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA 3 года назад
VKM remembers what he wants to remember...especially when it comes to people like shawn....And other wwe employees follow his lead on...remembering certain things..
@thatstoobad3023
@thatstoobad3023 3 года назад
But if it was your daddy melzter saying it, it would be true
@MrModaman
@MrModaman 3 года назад
For all we know, VKM may have an excellent memory, and just doesn't want to give away any real information.
@outlaw9140
@outlaw9140 3 года назад
Yet if it was meltzer and it a disenfranchised wrestler doing a shoot interview, you wouldn’t be saying that.
@Simouno
@Simouno 3 года назад
Of course he did, nobody stays 4 years away from the business because of a back injury, especially if it's the same guy who lost his smile right before he had to give the title back to Bret at Wrestlemania 13. Shawn Michaels was always about protecting his spot and that of his buddies, ask Pierre Oulett for info
@justablokepostingfunvids7137
@justablokepostingfunvids7137 3 года назад
Isn’t that the point.....protecting your spot and staying on top 🤷‍♂️
@Lord_Bibulous
@Lord_Bibulous 3 года назад
His back injury was real. It just didn't take 4 years to heal. That was other problems he had. But I will say the 4 years off from the constant rigors of wrestling most likely allowed HBK to wrestle a lot longer than had he come back in 2000.
@justablokepostingfunvids7137
@justablokepostingfunvids7137 3 года назад
@@Lord_Bibulous 100% agree perfectly put
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 3 года назад
@@justablokepostingfunvids7137 No the point is doing what's best for the business. You never heard ric flair doing that shit even though he had every right too. You can stay on top without being a selfish asshole like he was back then
@justablokepostingfunvids7137
@justablokepostingfunvids7137 3 года назад
@@madddoggnogood1491 lol hogan and bret were just as bad. Flair refused to drop the belt to hogan, savage and lex in wcw plus many more. Everyone who’s ever been anyone protects their spot,
@DXVI9
@DXVI9 3 года назад
Remember That Promo B4 The Rumble in 04 Between HBK & HHH, Where Hunter Said “👁 Was More Like Ur Kickstand”... He Wasn’t Lying.
@nathaneddings4678
@nathaneddings4678 3 года назад
Hey Solomonster, I was interested in hearing your thoughts on the RVD Icons documentary. Have you touched on that yet?
@TheSolomonster
@TheSolomonster 3 года назад
Have not watched it yet
@wallyrosario654
@wallyrosario654 3 года назад
There are old matches Shawn had in like 2000 for his independent promotion in Texas somewhere out there online. The back injury definitely hurt him but getting clean and finding god are the two things that kept him away from WWE for a while.
@user-do2ev2hr7h
@user-do2ev2hr7h 3 года назад
Those wrestling school matches kind of prove the injury was overstated IMHO. He was able to do most of his usual spots despite a "career ending" injury.
@146zigzag3
@146zigzag3 3 года назад
@@user-do2ev2hr7h True, but it's also possible that he doubted he could perform to his standard on a national stage anymore. He's said before that it wasn't his 19 match with Jericho that he gained the confidence he could be a full time again.
@user-do2ev2hr7h
@user-do2ev2hr7h 3 года назад
@@146zigzag3 Fair enough, but that's still not exactly how the situation was presented at the time. I don't doubt he was injured and that (for several reasons) he doubted he could perform to the standard he wanted, but at the same time he probably didn't need to be "retired" per se.
@YourXellency
@YourXellency Год назад
@@user-do2ev2hr7h A LOT of injuries are exaggerated. I don't believe in a majority of them. Most injuries today just cover the fact that a wrestler doesn't have plans set for them, and back then, it was over someone doing something trashy outside of the ring.
@dexenationgracey1979
@dexenationgracey1979 Год назад
Even though he was completely trashed, it's kind of heartwarming that Shawn had such a high opinion of Jericho even in 2001 that he was offended that Jericho was dressed as Doink.
@therush420
@therush420 3 года назад
Or you could say Triple H was…. The Chaperone. 🎶Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!🎶
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 3 года назад
Cornette accusing someone of exaggerating something is like Scarface accusing someone of being a drug addict.
@SonBlackHeart22
@SonBlackHeart22 3 года назад
I always thought it wasn't as bad and that he used that time to get sober and be a better person and stuff.
@atticus5106
@atticus5106 3 года назад
I don't like jim cornette, but I believe HBK exaggerated his bad back. He faked his knee injury in 97 to get out of losing to Bret. And he wasn't happy about losing to Austin at Mania. It sounds right up his alley to throw a hissy fit and quit wrestling & use a minor injury as an excuse.
@ant4158
@ant4158 3 года назад
I remember a nash interview, I think going over 1995, where he said shawn took summers off like a teacher...even nash was like he never heard michaels talk about a hurt back on their travels
@cctitansfan
@cctitansfan 3 года назад
Dying from choking on your own vomit is scary.Crash Holly also died from that along with Spicoli.
@patrickkirkham
@patrickkirkham Год назад
Lot of rock stars have gone that way
@Lord_Bibulous
@Lord_Bibulous 3 года назад
I could definitely understand HBK trying to put off surgery. Two guys who had similar injuries: Rick Rude and Ricky Steamboat, didn't come back immediately after they had their surgeries.
@Team600La
@Team600La 3 месяца назад
He did he had surgery in 1998 he didn’t come back until 2002 that’s years off
@Lord_Bibulous
@Lord_Bibulous 3 месяца назад
@@Team600La Yes but he put off the surgery until 1999. He was trying to rehab his back first.
@unclelloyd
@unclelloyd 3 года назад
I just go back to the WM14 match. Early on, Shawn got thrown out of the ring and HHH/Chyna didn't catch him properly and his lower back smacked the floor. If any of what we were told about his condition were true at that time he would've been done right there. Shawn was fine. Nothing about his body mechanics changed until for the first and only time in televised history, Shawn botched the Ric Flair spot in the corner and slammed his lower back into the turnbuckle. From there, it was nothing but dramatics and over-selling. My take; Shawn knew he was being taken out of the main event picture as the Austin era got rolling and he wanted to be in WCW with his buddies, but Vince wouldn't let him out of his contract. Perfect time to lose his smile and go home. I believe there were back problems, sure, but I don't buy the severity of it. Especially with the timing of his in-ring return in 2002. The only real question I have is why did Vince pay him to not go to WCW, as if losing him would've been some kind of death blow to the WWF. Austin was on fire and Rock would rise to main event level a year later. Shawn not being in the ring during the Attitude Era didn't hurt WWF at all. Vince could've easily let Shawn go down south (giggle) and milk some of that Turner money and Raw wouldn't have lost an inch in the ratings war at that point.
@markeric3364
@markeric3364 3 года назад
My opinion is that he had an actual injury. The extent of injury is questionable. He actually had surgery but I don't think it should have kept him out for 4 years. It should be 2. But his demons added an extra 2. That's just my take. As for Mania 14, he was clearly in pain. A performer like Shawn always gave his best on a bigger stage regardless of his personal problems. As for Vince paying Shawn, I think Vince just valued Shawn like he values Taker. He doesn't mind paying some guys. He can pay Shawn and Taker till they die because he treasures them in a particular way.
@DukeBlueDevilFan08
@DukeBlueDevilFan08 3 года назад
Well said Riggin Rose! In 1998 I couldn’t see Shawn fitting in WCW let alone the NWO at that time anyways. Of course HHH was the bag carrier and Shawn’s caretaker. So in reality is it safe to say HHH and Shawn worked the McMahon’s? Shawn got paid to sit at home and during that time HHH marries Steph.
@vvstreetfightervv
@vvstreetfightervv 3 года назад
@@DukeBlueDevilFan08 that's definitely a valid theory... As soon as hbk made his big in-ring return; who did he work with in his first major program for the belt?? The son-in-law.
@DukeBlueDevilFan08
@DukeBlueDevilFan08 3 года назад
@@vvstreetfightervv Eggzackly and look at who runs NXT and a head trainer there? I wouldn't be surprised if the Kliq idea was a collective of Shawn Nash Hall and Vince. Kid and HHH were collateral to the situation.
@CR-ye6jq
@CR-ye6jq 2 года назад
You couldn't be more wrong. It was well documented that Michaels had a legit back injury. Watch that match and it is obvious. Austin has said so as well. Hence why that match was noticeably worse than their matches in 97. His back kept him from performing for about 2 years and his drug addictions for the other 2 that followed. And the whole contract thing was 97. Once Bret left he was really content with being in the WWF. He had Hunter, was on top, and his nemesis was gone. Again, a well documented herniated disk. Try wrestling, let alone moving, with a herniated disk.
@Digitaldelboy
@Digitaldelboy 3 года назад
The fake part was that god fixed his back.
@Nazzlover38
@Nazzlover38 3 года назад
Michaels deserves a DSotR ep.
@IAmAHeater
@IAmAHeater Год назад
15k a week back then is insane!
@KalvinEllis
@KalvinEllis 3 года назад
Right, the guy missed the entire Attitude Era and was out of action for 5 years because he "exaggerated" his injury...
@Prophet-tu9tf
@Prophet-tu9tf 3 года назад
I think it might be from the same episode but Cornette also said that after WCW folded then miraculously his back healed. He had a few matches in 2000-01 but only in local promotions. As far I’m aware he tried to leave but Vince said no, it’s why he was GM for a while. I think it’s a combination of a few things, the back injury, Vince not letting him out of his contract, their not being any competitors so WWE was the only game in town. That’s not even acknowledging his well to summarize his “Issues”. I forget where he said it but Shawn said if he went to WCW he probably would have died. So maybe it’s for the best he came back at that point. I feel WCW would have given the behind the scenes state at the time, exacerbated his issues. Was he as injured as he claimed probably not but I can’t say it didn’t work out for the better. His second run was better than his first in my opinion.
@icyhardaway7034
@icyhardaway7034 3 года назад
Not sure if that picture of Shawn in the corner of this video is actually Shawn Michaels or Matt Riddle bro.
@JLRules
@JLRules Год назад
I'm always amazed that casket did so much damage, because it looked like Shawn barely touched it.
@Lord_Bibulous
@Lord_Bibulous Год назад
It was the way he landed. Right on the edge. You can compare it to Rick Rude's injury in 1994, when his back landed on that edge of the raised platform in Japan.
@sdd619
@sdd619 Год назад
They never go into late 98. He was the commissioner & was completely wasted on TV. This was the tapings before Mick Foley won the WWE Title.
@slimreaper1744
@slimreaper1744 3 года назад
I mean to be fair, hbk had a history of fuckin wit ppl wit his injuries, remember his knee?
@kimymarie596
@kimymarie596 3 года назад
Why did they use old interview footage with his wife? Are they separated? Could be Covid thing? Maybe she’s not in Orlando. Just found it strange that they didn’t have a current interview with her.
@anthonynoel57
@anthonynoel57 3 года назад
I assumed that it was Vince following through on his threat to bench him. It was well known that he threatened to quit and go to WCW after the backstage fight with Bret and Vince basically told him I've got you in contract for 3 or 4 more years and I'll just bench you. Timing was right. By the time HBKs rumored contract expiry date rolled around it would of been around 2000, and more then clear WCW was dying and Turner broadcasting had put the kibosh on new big money deals so Shawn would of had no where to go. If he was still under contract explains why he kept popping up for a few weeks or months here and there only to disapper after being too wasted to work as they seemed to be trying to reintergrate him. Also explains why he kept getting paid since Vince would have to pay any downside guarntee or be in breech of contract. But we'll never know for sure.
@tashrif46
@tashrif46 4 месяца назад
3:44 I think The Undertaker was very disciplined. Yes he would drink Jack Daniels but you would never hear that he went overboard or he was drunk in the ring or backstage.
@TheJSexton24
@TheJSexton24 3 года назад
Never brought up Tammy Sytch either
@magsxx9735
@magsxx9735 2 года назад
She’s not relevant to Shawns story. There’s no reason to talk about her unless it’s about the “Sunny days” incident. Otherwise it would seem out of place. However they did bring her up in Brets biography and Shawn even confirms they used to mess around back in the day.
@jakeh6980
@jakeh6980 3 года назад
Go herniate or rupture one of your discs and see if you can fake a back injury. The dude landed on the damn casket right on his lower back. For someone who has suffered with severe back problems for 12 years, I can say it’s not like faking a knee injury. It’s true pain.
@LimaKiloRomeo
@LimaKiloRomeo Год назад
He’s questioned it for years, why is this news now?
@hbkgreatestever
@hbkgreatestever 3 года назад
HHH is the realest friend you could ask for.
@mannyrivera4119
@mannyrivera4119 Год назад
Just listened to Task Master Talks by Kevin Sullivan and he confirmed that they were actively pursuing HBK when Nash was booking to possibly be the guy who was driving the white hummer. TONY: Is that? Is That!!! That's....The Icon Micheal Shawn!!!!! MS: You shouldn't have turned your back on me Big Man.....Drives off after hitting nash with the white hummer...
@justablokepostingfunvids7137
@justablokepostingfunvids7137 3 года назад
I mean he had to go and get surgery 🤷‍♂️ I’d say he had a fairly bad back if he needed that, he could of came back earlier probably but it was his substance issues that’s made it say four years out rather than 2-3 but his back was definitely really bad. Daniel Bryan said when he went to hbks school he would show them a suplex a few times and be hunched over the next day in agony until the surgery
@jordza2k11
@jordza2k11 2 года назад
420 likes... 1998 Shawn would be proud
@flame9118
@flame9118 3 года назад
Shawn did have back surgery, but his back didn't heal naturally & it wasn't praying to have his back healed that got him back despite what Shawn says. Here's the real truth: In an April 2012 interview with WrestlingInc's Jay Calderon, Diamond Dallas Page reveals it was Shawn Michaels who was the first-ever wrestler to try his brand of yoga when he had his most recent back surgery in '99: "HBK--Shawn Michaels -- was the first guy to ever do DDP Yoga when he came back from that last back surgery. He told (Chris) Jericho about it when (Jericho) herniated his L-4, which is the lower part of your back. It's the center of the universe. He was done." Had it not been for DDP Yoga, we would not have enjoyed seeing much of Shawn Michaels compete during the 21st century.
@jonathancoleman9266
@jonathancoleman9266 3 года назад
I think his injury was real hbk said in a shoot interview he had back problems for years before the match with taker.
@concerta56
@concerta56 3 года назад
son-in-law on his daily routine? you mean his boring mundane wrestling matches?
@henrikschmidt3964
@henrikschmidt3964 3 года назад
The timing of Shawn's recovery has always been extremely suspect. 'Born again Christian' my ass.
@erickennedy3322
@erickennedy3322 Год назад
Had let Shawn go , but Vince had keep away from WCW.
@CraigSmithII
@CraigSmithII 3 года назад
Corny wasn't exaggerating,he was telling the truth. When HBK's money stopped rolling in he had no choice but to come back. Also HBK's 1st wife is named Theresa. He said in his book that they got divorced in July 1995 & they used the same lawyer,which is fuckin' unheard of due to conflict of interest
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 3 года назад
I see Marty Jannetty has still not been brought up on Charges for dumping that Fella in the River?!... 👀
@juansanchez209
@juansanchez209 3 года назад
IF (and this is a big if, mind you) Marty is telling the truth about what happened, then the guy deserved it.
@magsxx9735
@magsxx9735 2 года назад
Lmao that story was fucking hilarious I don’t care
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler 3 года назад
For what it’s worth (and I’m not sure it’s worth much) even Kevin Nash thinks Michaels was faking the injury.
@vvstreetfightervv
@vvstreetfightervv 3 года назад
He'd know. He's torn his quads, more than anyone... LoL
@dexenationgracey1979
@dexenationgracey1979 Год назад
I say that it's worth more than you think, Shawn is one of Kevin's buddies.
@renatoism
@renatoism Год назад
Dude didn't wrestle for 4 years, that is committment to an "exaggeration".
@sukerAndre
@sukerAndre Год назад
Shawn was like , Shawn u are gonna win the Belt … Im fine … Shawn u have to drop the Belt … I lost my Smile … Shawn u have to lose to Austin … I am hurt…. Shawn WCW is out of Buisness, u can’t go there and we don’t pay u anymore … OK I am not Hurt anymore , Tnx to GOD
@darthsebio1726
@darthsebio1726 Год назад
I don’t think it’s much of a secret that he exaggerated his injuries...
@kevinahn8640
@kevinahn8640 Год назад
Thanks for updating on what cornette said, I stopped listening to his podcast cause his co-host was too annoying/negative, loved corny’s insight though
@philly_sports1558
@philly_sports1558 3 года назад
Cornette has personally hated HBK for years and yet he has always said that he has the utmost respect for his work and talent. Which really shows that his hatred for Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks, and the rest of AEW is more than personal bias.
@DannNotDaniel
@DannNotDaniel 3 года назад
it's always personal with cornette he hold grudges against omega for the ankle injury and wrestling a kid
@TheJSexton24
@TheJSexton24 3 года назад
@@DannNotDaniel and wearing dresses and wrestling blowup dolls
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 3 года назад
@@TheJSexton24 cornette is a hypocrite for that because hes had a hand in some of the most goofy crap ever . This is the same person who wrestled a guy in a ninja turtle costume
@TheJSexton24
@TheJSexton24 3 года назад
@@madddoggnogood1491 a ninja turtle or a blow up doll lol mid 90s wrestling had a bunch of goofy shit but when you’re wrestling sex toys that aren’t living that’s a whole nother level
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 3 года назад
@@TheJSexton24 🙄 dumb is dumb There is no such thing as dumbassery levels
@sohailalamkhel9220
@sohailalamkhel9220 3 года назад
Cerebral Caretaker. “and if you’re not down with that...”
@andyblake9673
@andyblake9673 3 года назад
When it happened of course it was serious, but after about a year or so he probably could of wrestled again at a high level...maybe he sat out for the free money he was getting, who knows.
@iknow679
@iknow679 2 года назад
Ok long time wrestling fan. Hbk is in my opinion the goat!! You are crazy if you think his back injury wasn't serious. Look at his body of work from his rocker days to when he left in 98. The types of bumps he took the way he sold for people had to take its toll on him. I remember being younger and asking myself like how is this man alive. I believe that what started his pill addiction. Pain! But as men we tend to do what we gotta do to keep on pushing forward and it ultimately was more damaged then he thought. You got to the doctor and let them tell you if you keep competing you could be paralyzed you would take extra precautions to.
@octasian
@octasian 3 года назад
Maybe the Shawn Michaels who came back from back injury wasn’t Shawn Michaels. Maybe it was his twin brother Wayne Hickenbottom. 😱 conspiracies 😱
@JOHNN01.82
@JOHNN01.82 Год назад
I wouldn't have paid him let him sign with WCW he would only be in the mid card competing for the US title at best with all the roid heads in WCW at the time they wouldn't put Shawn over . Do you think Goldberg would lay down for Shawn in the 90s? I dont think so
@stevanaldape3424
@stevanaldape3424 3 года назад
Shawn reminds me when I entered high school. Shy and introverted until I met my boys and we started smoking weed and I became confident all throughout high school.
@rosserjake
@rosserjake 2 года назад
Maybe he "lost his smile" for real
@DukeBlueDevilFan08
@DukeBlueDevilFan08 3 года назад
Also Shawn was refereeing matches between HHH/Rock I think in 2000 and the way he was moving around made it seem like in hindsight that he did exaggerate his back injury. However Shawn still seemed to be a prick even afterwards just as Shane Helms
@Betared2003
@Betared2003 3 года назад
I wish more top guys would take a year or two off here and there, we wouldn't have gotten Austen v Rock if HBK were hanging around for 99/00.
@mangamegs
@mangamegs 3 года назад
I'm just sad his last world title reign he had to wear those hideous brown tights.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy Год назад
Of course he faked it. One of the fakest people imaginable
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