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Jiraiya vs Deidara Is NOT A Fair Fight 

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Jiraiya vs Deidara who would win? Deidara's explosives C1, C2, C3, C4, or Jiraiya and his Sage Mode and Rasengan? Only time will tell, or rather, Dygo "Kapibara No Sūhai-sha " Knight, and Gritty "The Based" will right here in this video. We recorded this video in April I think, so the mic quality won't be as good but the video is worth it. Let's roll this Naruto versus battle.
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@DygoKnight
@DygoKnight Год назад
Subscribe to Gritty: youtube.com/@gritty8319 and GO TELL HIM THAT MADARA STOMPS ISSHITI
@blueprinceyt4620
@blueprinceyt4620 Год назад
How by that logic then sasuke should stomp isshiki
@sohammitra1951
@sohammitra1951 Год назад
Really depends On if you think Isshiki can Resist genjustu and Truth seeker orbs ,see through Limbo etc,As Much as I hate the characters of Otsutsuki, Prime Isshiki(perfect vessel)> JubbiMadra(Without Rinnesharingan),Jubbi Madara with Rinnesharingan beats the version of Isshiki that fought Baryon mode tho
@blueprinceyt4620
@blueprinceyt4620 Год назад
@@sohammitra1951 my guy your twiking, remember when Kaguya appeared and naruto and sasuke especially sasuke where shiting themselves compared to how much more power she had than madara. Momoshiki who is objectively stronger than kaguya( else why would she be so afraid of him) got folded by half power naruto and sasuke, who then get folded by jigen who is just weaker issiki without karma absorbtion 💀
@ayeayekyawtsan2016
@ayeayekyawtsan2016 Год назад
Madara Vs iishiki please!!!!! Most of them thinks iishiki negative diff madara but is that really true tho
@bernardmartins1093
@bernardmartins1093 Год назад
I don't agree about the deidara tanks c1 argument. He tanks his own technique using his knowledge about the explosion and using the impact of the explosion + knowledge + ninja. It doesn't mean he can tank a sage rasengan. A normal rasengan would end deidara. Deidara can use clones, fly. But he can't tank rasengan. Other than that I agree. Great video and collab 👌
@buttermanaws4693
@buttermanaws4693 Год назад
I've always felt like people downplay Deidera due to his fight with Sasuke and even Gaara but like these guys mentioned Sasuke was the perfect counter to him and it was still a very close fight
@mrgabe1
@mrgabe1 Год назад
I agree with you but how is Sasuke a perfect counter if I may ask?
@buttermanaws4693
@buttermanaws4693 Год назад
@@mrgabe1 flight, lightning style, he can see when the bombs are in him, relative speed, and he even had a way out of his final attack It's mostly flight since that's Deidera's biggest advantage but the other things just add to him being really good against him
@hype5456
@hype5456 Год назад
@@buttermanaws4693 Pokemon battles are serious business
@trafalgard.187
@trafalgard.187 Год назад
Do people really downplay Deidara for his Battle vs Sasuke? I found It the opposite, he managed to give him a great fight and pushed him to his limits, he really gave a great demonstration of strength there. Also against Gaara, where he had the territory disadvantage, and he had not to kill him too
@Sunaki1000
@Sunaki1000 Год назад
Deidara in my Akatsuki Lists is allways middle. Just cause everyone above him is so OP, but he is pretty damn strong himselfe. But Sasuke was pretty strong and had some brocken Plotarmor in that Fight. From his Snake Wings working at all, to Deidara constantly forgetting how the Sharingan works. No Idea why they downplay him. And in Gaaras Fight, he was litteraly not allowed to kill him, and his Ability is very deadly, but bad at capturing someone. Deidara was nervend hard and still won against Gaara. And Gaara itselfe was already pretty insane, even pre Timescip.
@arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657
I thought sage mode increase the senses to insane level. I think jiraiya could sense the nano bomb coming. U could say he an incomplete sage and his senses not that strong but he has the sages frog on his shoulder could sense the nano bomb and tell jiraiya to get away.
@alfonsuskristo1624
@alfonsuskristo1624 Год назад
Jiraiya nor the toads can sense the Ashura Path coming after them and that guy is a bigger target than the micro bombs
@UnknownK4ge
@UnknownK4ge Год назад
What makes you think deidara would just stand there and let Jiraiya tap into Sage mode🤣
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg Год назад
@@alfonsuskristo1624 their guard was dropped. They also easily sensed and flushed out an invisible summon
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 Год назад
But he has mid sage mode as apposed to naruto's good sage mode
@BenthovenMusic95
@BenthovenMusic95 Год назад
So once Jiraiya senses the bombs, how does he disable them?
@donovan4222
@donovan4222 Год назад
Y’all need to stop acting like Jiraiya couldn’t hit pain because he wasn’t fast enough when they outright stated during the fight that the reason Jiraiya was having so much trouble hitting Pain was because of the shared rinnegan vision letting them see his attacks coming
@billiondavid
@billiondavid Год назад
Exactly
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 Год назад
They see his attacks coming as in he can't sneak attack. This comment is dumb as fuck cause if you can sneak attack on mfers it bypasses a lack of speed, and since he clearly needs to sneak attack instead of a just blizting them his speed isn't good enough.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@billiondavid didn't Naruto have same disadvantage
@Magnvincent
@Magnvincent Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 no bc Jiraiya gave him that info
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@Magnvincent nope The same vision technique
@kionyfey7740
@kionyfey7740 Год назад
Honestly, I feel that both of you are underpowering Jiraya a bit too much. Though I understand why.
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
they don't take into account how versatile Jiraiya is. We have seen many times that strategy makes up for a lot in the raw power gap and they can definitely not predict how Jiraiya would strategize against someone like Deidara. They are just taking into account how fast they are and how powerful their jutsus are.
@DimitriHellas
@DimitriHellas Год назад
@@nikolakrstic8079 i mean jiraya doesnt have any counters to deidara as far as we know
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
@@DimitriHellas Deidara can't counter that from genjutsu also and that's what I mean, we can't know how the fight would go and what strategies would be implemented. Also until Jiraiya broke out the frogs and all that we didn't know he had that. My point is, we don't know what more he had and what more he could have done in some other fights
@dumbidea1007
@dumbidea1007 Год назад
@@nikolakrstic8079didn’t he specifically train against genjutsu after fighting itachi
@sonicplays8740
@sonicplays8740 Год назад
@@dumbidea1007 Occular ones, but not sound.
@ottoia9126
@ottoia9126 Год назад
"deidara fares better in open fields" my brother in ninja christ, deidara is the type of guy to make his own open fields
@fmrc93
@fmrc93 Год назад
I hate that people always use the argument "Jiraiya lost to Pain" to downplay him. Ok, and? The entire village of Konoha lost to Pain, including Kakashi who could beat Deidara and was weaker than Jiraiya at the time.
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 Год назад
Yeah, Kakashi "beat" a one armed Deidara with barely any clay or rest after fighting Gaara and sealing the one tail... And nobody's using the argument "Jiriaya lost to Pain" to downplay him except those who downplay Pain.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@Jon Miller lol Jiraiya is fodder He fight 3 fights of pain and get killed Kakshi fight Deva path and another strong path and give good fight Also konohamaru stomps a strong path of pain by himself which jiraiya couldn't do with the help of ma and pa Lol jiraiya gets stomped He is the weakest sannin Hebi sasuke slams sm jiraiya no diff lol
@Bloooo95
@Bloooo95 Год назад
@Jon Miller No, Pain was weaker in the Rain Village because he couldn’t fight full out cause he was worried about collateral damage.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@Jon Miller lol doesn't matter Pain didnt even use his half of strength against jiraya And he is bloodlusted to konohamaru still got stomped Kid Konohamaru>>>> jiraya in better
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 Год назад
@Jon Miller not all the pains are equal in power the ashura path is blatantly faster then the other pains
@drowning.macaco
@drowning.macaco Год назад
jiraya while off guard took a POINT BLANK missisle to the face and didnt die, and you are telling me he will die to c1? literally he regained consciousness after his heart literally stopped moving to give intel to the leaf, also how is c1 mountain level? it oneshots the 3 tails but explosion release is created from lightning and heart release, 2 "super effective" elements against water, also jiraya fought pain in his prime, its very different from the one naruto fought, cuz he was insanly fatigued, he fought an entire village all by himselfe and then blow it up, and is not like its only the deeva path that gets tired, cuz nagato gives them the chackra so if deeva uses shinra tensei nagato is the one that uses the chackra there for EVERY pain gets weaker, not to mention, using only 3 paths makes them a lot stronger than they would be when all 6 paths are out, since the chackra is more focused on those 3, it was a joke but kiba making the preida path run away is beacouse he is a support fighter that absorbs ninjutsu, kiba uses taijutsu so he is powerless against him, also he doesnt have the shared vision helping him, for the fight itselfe, true that flying agaisnt someone that cant is insane advantage tho toads are natorius to jump really high so i dont see jiraya having a problem with closing the distance, sagemode also increase reaction speed and speed itselfe so i dont see why jiraya would get tagged by every bomb deidara throws at him, talking about speed "gaara blocking raikage there for deidara is faster/relative to raikage" doesnt make any sense, not only is raikage stated to be the fastest man alive but also in that moment he was falling down so as you adressed yourselfe, gravity is not that fast and so gaara didnt have much problem blocking the raikage, also jiraya doesnt fall short to speed either cuz the sandal feat, and really, if fatigued hebi sasuke can punch deidara and send him several metres away you really think sage jiraya's massive rasengan is not oneshotting him?
@drowning.macaco
@drowning.macaco Год назад
@@HC-gm4fo that also taes away from that feat
@Rck-vert
@Rck-vert Год назад
When did he took a missile to d face?😂😂😂
@drowning.macaco
@drowning.macaco Год назад
@@Rck-vert when he was hitted by the asura path
@SoullessFN
@SoullessFN Год назад
Those missiles are weaker than deidaras stronger c1 bombs
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
Saskue literally absorbed a Sanin fighter, he's Saskue + a Sanin. And he barely beat Deidara. Deidara would wash a Sanin 1v1 let alone Jiraya
@jojomacandrew
@jojomacandrew Год назад
Alright, so, there's some really simple scaling here. Sasuke beat sick Orochimaru, but said he would have lost to stronger versions of him. Sasuke tied with Deidara, which should put Deidara below Orochimaru. Base Jiraiya is relative to full-powered base Orochimaru. Then you add Sage Mode and he's leagues above Deidara.
@beezzycjtv7427
@beezzycjtv7427 Год назад
No sasuke won bc it was a bad match up and those are 2 versions of sasuke
@donovan4222
@donovan4222 Год назад
Yeah I don’t get how they have this idea that Sanin are so much weaker than Deidara. It’s pretty clear the Sanin are relative to each other….and Deidara isn’t just going to win the whole fight by Jiraiya just letting him drop a c1 bomb on him…Jiraiya has summoning, toad oil bombs, the lion mane technique and other ranged attacks to counter that. He also has all his trap techniques like swamp and toad mouth, it wouldn’t be that easy.
@Dino49284
@Dino49284 Год назад
@@donovan4222swamp won’t work on deidara because deidara will just fly
@muleyamwiinga3988
@muleyamwiinga3988 Год назад
Jiraiya hits harder but Deidara mops the floor with him
@donovan4222
@donovan4222 Год назад
@@Dino49284 Not if Jiraiya traps him on the ground, Deidara can fly but it’s not like he never touches the ground. Also Jiraiya has tons of escape abilities.
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 Год назад
Gaara got way stronger and faster from BoS to the war arc, scaling deidara off 5 kage summit Gaara is pretty dishonest.
@flexoden3859
@flexoden3859 Год назад
Yea that was ridiculous
@kuelimika
@kuelimika Год назад
I thought the same.
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 Год назад
Seeing how powerful Gaara was, I dare say he was relative to Sasuke and would force Sasuke to go curse 2 Gaara was superior the whole fight until Deidara started to improvise. While he didnt use c4, he used all hiss other abilities that he used on Sasuke. Deidara had to improvise to defeat Gaara. Also, his base explosions are powerful. Sasuke didnt tank any of them in his base state. He only tanked it with curse mark lv 2. Even the base explosions, he dodged them all with his speed or defused them.
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
It actually isn't- Deidara could react to 5 kage summit Gara for sure since Deidara later fights Ohnoki as an edo who is def faster than Gara. So try again.
@drigondii
@drigondii Год назад
The giant frog stomach jutsu he used against Itachi would be extremely effective against Deidara, and given his research, Jiraiya should know to use it right away. Pain and Tobi were basically the only major players in the Akatsuki he didn't know about, and the inability to prepare for the fight against a total unknown was what killed Jiraiya, not impotence. I don't really think we were shown any of his best fights, but the fact that Itachi escalated to Amaterasu basically right away to get away from a prepared Jiraiya shows that Jiraya's biggest strength comes from operating on the principle of "know thy enemy." By the time he really knew how to counter Pain fully (and he did get pain figured out almost completely by the end), he was just too injured to turn things around. Had he gone into the Pain fight knowing everything he knew by the time he died, there's a strong chance he'd have won.
@20zX-games
@20zX-games 8 месяцев назад
You do know at that specific time and place jiraya was staring in itachis eyes and itachi could have ended him on the spot with Tsukyumi or Amaterasu but chose not to
@scorpionor9865
@scorpionor9865 5 месяцев назад
@@20zX-games bcuz Itachi couldn’t. The fact that Naruto was coming with Jiraiya and Konoha allowed that because they knew he was extremely strong that other akatsuki wouldn’t chase them. Obito only told Itachi he wouldn’t touch Konoha but he never swore not to capture Naruto himself, or send other team to capture Naruto. Jiraiya was no doubt a threat Akatsuki didn’t want to fuck with.
@deltalord6969
@deltalord6969 Год назад
You start running into alot of problems when backwards scaling naruto speed like saying deidara can react to gaara who can block the raikage which therefore means he's way faster than jiraiya cause at that point you could backwards scale jiraiya the same way. Naruto with a small amount of kyuubi Chakra and base sharingan early shippuden kakashi could somewhat keep up with deidara and kakashi nearly one shot him and it's not like deidara was taking it super easy either since he was clearly on edge when naruto started gaining more kyuubi Chakra. Jiraiya at least somewhat fended off a 4 tailed version two cloak naruto at this time. Naruto and kakashi are heavily inferior to jiraiya in sage mode during this part of the story. Base jiraiya is somewhat on a similar level to base orochimaru being constantly compared to him and the akatsuki members like sasori respected orochimarus strength and deidara says he's weaker than him. So at that point you might as well scale base naruto somewhat kyuubi Chakra to raikage level speed. Deidara also didn't one shot the three tails by the way its heavily implied tobi did something to the three tails during that fight.
@hectorlackless
@hectorlackless Год назад
This ks why powerscaling in naruto makes no sense a lot of the time
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
Obito didn't do anything Deidara even gets angry when he tries to claim the credit because call Obito did was run away. What exactly do you think Obito did?
@DimitriHellas
@DimitriHellas Год назад
deidara directly states that he is going slowly so they dont loose him
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
@@DimitriHellas it's a little unfair too considering Deidara was physically present for the sealing jutsu and had already lost an arm...dude was given no breaks lmao
@HC-gm4fo
@HC-gm4fo Год назад
That’s why understanding narrative is important. Using feats you can calculate Batman faster than the speed of light When narratively it’s not even close to the case.
@tskullz
@tskullz Год назад
So we are taking everything out of context to downplay Jiraiya, huh? It would not be the first time you would do something like that but ok. It's unbelievable that these people are willing to accept that Pain is the strongest in the Akatsuki and someone who one shots Deidara, but not consider the fact that a stronger Pain, in the Rain Village (due to being closer to Nagato) said that Jiraiya with intel could kill him. Also, Sage Mode Naruto equals more or less Sage Mode Jiraiya.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
Lol kid watch cartoon rather than anime If you still stick to that statement then you're dumb Because in Naruto statements are to honour a character not shows full power Pain didn't even use almighty pudh or pull and many more things
@tskullz
@tskullz Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 Pain is stronger in the Rain Village.... That's a fact... People are really dumb nowadays, huh?
@achillepalermo2354
@achillepalermo2354 Год назад
When did pain state that?
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@tskullz stronger doesn't mean anything He doesn't use his full power that's a fact People really are dumb nowdays
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 Год назад
Sage Naruto > Sage Jiraiya
@Huhhh4308
@Huhhh4308 Год назад
How is this even a debate Jiraiya wipes the floor with Deidara
@wem_iii
@wem_iii Год назад
All debates with Jiraiya usually just turn into him being a fodder ninja because after the Pain Arc, they had to make everyone capable of fighting people stronger than Pain who had unlimited chakra and bodies that can't be destoryed. If Jairiya had lived he would have been scaled up in power as well because he would have to be able to fight on that same level. Them bringing up Kiba being able to take on paths of Pain that even Jiraya struggled with showed me that Naruto's powerscailing was getting bonkers even before Pain died. Even 12 year olds in the village were able to take down paths of Pain.
@AK-su3tz
@AK-su3tz Год назад
You didn't provide any points either you're just fanboying
@Huhhh4308
@Huhhh4308 Год назад
@@AK-su3tz ok Deidara himself says Sasori is stronger than him and Sakura and Chiyo beat Sasori and Jiraiya beats that version of Sakura and just destroys Chiyo so in conclusion Jiraiya beats Deidara don’t say I’m fanboying Jiraiya I hate him
@justanotherchannel3845
@justanotherchannel3845 Год назад
@@Huhhh4308 Sasori literally wanted to die in the Sakura fight so it isn’t a feat and you are comparing post-timeskip jiriya to pre-timeskip deidara which is ignoring the abilities that deidara shows proficiency with during his fight with sasuke
@kaiyamazaki1684
@kaiyamazaki1684 Год назад
Okay, these guys are kind of wanking Deidura to the moon here. C4 kind of just gets hard countered by Sage Mode and literally any wind jutsu capable of blowing it away which a ton of Toads have. He also has incredibly wide range attacks like like Sage Art: Goemon that reaches 1000s of degrees, Fire Release: Big Flame Bullet which csn create torrents of flames that limit an enemy's ability to maneuver in enclosed areas, Hair Needle Senbon which Fire rapidly and can blow up Deidura's projectiles wau before they can reach him. Not to mention Summons like Gamabunta when he fights in combination with him csm kind of just nuke wide areas. Literally the only reason Gaara didn't just AOE damage the heck out of him was because Deidara kept trying to blow up the Sand Village to force him to tank the attacks lol 😆
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 Год назад
If Jiraya doesnt see it coming, he is dead unless a toad of his knows lightning style If he knows whats coming or has intel, I do think he can blow the bombs away with a powerful enough wind style.
@kaiyamazaki1684
@kaiyamazaki1684 Год назад
@@aceclover758 It's said he knows every nature release so he probably does know it. But outside of that, it depends on other things too like if he's in Sage Mode or not. After all, C4 isn't exactly Deidura's immidatr go to attack either so against Akatsuki level threats, Sage Mode isn't out of the question (especially against someone he knows soloed the 1 Tails). As for the Wind Release thing, I don't see why not. C4 are basically just dust particle sized or smaller, it wouldn't be hard to blow them away with powerful wide techniques, especislly if you can sense them.
@AK-su3tz
@AK-su3tz Год назад
@@kaiyamazaki1684 Where does it say he knows every nature release? He knows 3 at best
@noeaeon
@noeaeon Год назад
I wouldn't say that Deidara scales to the Raikage in speed. I think Deidara's bigger asset against Gaara was surprise and subtlety not just raw speed but I could be wrong. Haven't watched that fight in years. Plus if I'm not mistaken, Deidara is considered weaker than Sasori who definitely doesn't scale to the Raikage's speed imo. But Sasori instead has very powerful defense and lethality Jiraiya has that toad flesh jutsu that acts as a barrier. Only Amaterasu has broken through it. Idk how sturdy it is against explosions, but Jiraiya essentially says it should be impervious to fire. So it seems like a powerful defense. Intuitively, if Jiraiya has Ma and Pa summoned, the speed and lethality of the senjutsu that they and Jiraiya use is not something I think Deidara can casually dodge even highballing the latter's speed, especially mid flight. Not even Pain was able to actually dodge some of those attacks.
@SoullessFN
@SoullessFN Год назад
He literally is dodging gaaras fastest attack casually and gets caught once. He is close to raikage speed a little under
@noeaeon
@noeaeon Год назад
@@SoullessFN it's possible that Gaara was just slower. It's plausible Gaara didn't expect enemies to be that fast outside of Rock Lee, especially since he was able to save Lee from Kimimaru. So maybe since the Deidara fight, he trained more. I mean Naruto became a sage in that time span. But that's my head canon
@SoullessFN
@SoullessFN Год назад
@@noeaeon gaara was blitzing amaterastu soon after he got faster but not by much he was controlling relatively around same amount of sand, and deidara was keeping up with ohnoki it’s consistent
@noeaeon
@noeaeon Год назад
@@SoullessFN yeah but the amount of sand he could control might not be relevant for assessing his fastest speeds with sand. [Edit: well it might be relevant as a control actually, so nvm] And the Deidara fight was way back in early Shippuden when Naruto couldn't really speed blitz anyone. Gaara blitzed amaterasu at the 5 kage summit, a point way later in the series when Naruto had mastered sage mode and could speed blitz Pain. I'm just saying that it's narratively plausible that Gaara was also motivated to train in a way that would greatly increase his speed especially since he was no longer a jinchuriki host after the Gaara rescue arc.
@SoullessFN
@SoullessFN Год назад
@@noeaeon he also lost his bijuu deidara would be faster on bird than on foot and on foot he was dodging hebi sasuke who ms was reacting to v1 bee and no cloak bee even if he got fucked up and with out oro and less stamina. No evidence to present gaara getting faster by a large amount even if he got a little faster it would still be relative to v1 raikage and ohnoki who deidara was keeping up with in war
@zxvamp
@zxvamp Год назад
Deidara can’t even beat Sasori. What makes people think he beats Jiraiya? ☠️
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
9:28 well the reason he was able to pull off the song against pain is because he was using one of the frogs as extra mobility so he could pull it the attack right? Or was that just to do sage mode. There's also a chance the fight ends before Jiraya can even see the move as an option, as Ma and Pa don't even like to do it anyway so it won't be his go to most likely
@s.owl9
@s.owl9 Год назад
I’ve always considered Gaara, Taka Sasuke & Deidara relative in speed. A free for all between the 3 would be cool, but Sasuke counters both of them
@speedy9388
@speedy9388 Год назад
How does Sasuke counter Gaara?
@kunaload6198
@kunaload6198 Год назад
Gaara would destroy sasuke
@s.owl9
@s.owl9 Год назад
Hebi Sasuke's faster than Deidara and can fly in Curse Mark 2 mode, so he'd be able to keep up with Gaara's special sand. Gaara's sand is weak to lightning style so Sasuke can shred his attacks & defenses (of Gaara has insane stamina & lots of sand so Sasuke would have to use it tactfully). Gaara's sand is an easy target for Amaterasu, when used defensively. I'm not saying he destroys Gaara. I'm saying its an even fight (even though Gaara is a Jinchuriki & a prodigy and Sasuke only has newbie MS), because Sasuke has counters to Gaara & he's smarter. Considering Deidara outsmarted Gaara & Sasuke outsmarted Deidara
@speedy9388
@speedy9388 Год назад
@@s.owl9 Hmm so it sounds like the basis of this argument is that raiton has an elemental advantage against Gaara’s sand, but that’s not really shown. Sasuke only pierced through Gaara’s sand shield in part 1 because the chidori has insane piercing power. Even if sand was weak to raiton, Gaara can control such absurds amounts of it that it shouldn’t be an issue for Gaara. I also wouldn’t say Deidara necessarily outsmarted Gaara, he just used the village as bait. Sasuke can’t really integrate his attacks into Gaara’s sand like Deidara could. I’m assuming you meant Taka Sasuke as Hebi doesn’t have MS, but Gaara’s sand is one of the only things consistently shown to block Amaterasu. As a close-mid range fighter, Hebi Sasuke is a bad match up for Gaara. In part 1, Sasuke could overwhelm Gaara with speed, but Sasuke shouldn’t be dwarfing Gaara in speed in Shippuden.
@Romanj28
@Romanj28 Год назад
@@speedy9388 Sasuke Kusunagi Blade could pierce through Gaara Sand
@fentherolar_f
@fentherolar_f Год назад
7:10 your just wrong lmao, we see that manda is capable of surviving deidara's strongest bomb and gamabunta is relative to manda.
@joshuabryant9845
@joshuabryant9845 Год назад
No, Manda is stronger than Gamabunta. Manda was the strongest of the summons. Manda fought the other sannin summons 2 v 1 and nearly killed them both.
@fentherolar_f
@fentherolar_f Год назад
@@joshuabryant9845 Databook literally describes them as relative and without a clear victor manda was wining due to his agility, however the other summoning's have aspects that put them all on even playing fields
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 Год назад
Isn't Manda the large purple snake that died to Deidara's strongest bomb? Besides, he wouldn't survive C4 either.
@kristofnagy7813
@kristofnagy7813 Год назад
My man this video in my honest opinion is an L. Your rewrite series is fire and most of the time you have a good take related to naruto but this one is a stretch to say the least. Itachi and Kisame ran from Jiraya. I Know that powerscaling in naruto to shippuden is dogshit but narratively speaking it is more than implied that Jiraya is relative to full power orochimaru. Furthermore Itachi and Kisame did give the recpect to the Sannin even tho it was kind of retconned in shippuden since both of them are more powerful then we knew at that point. But still Pain was set up to be the main villian who kills Jiraya and he was implied to be way more powerful than any of the akatsuki. Deidara is the weakest member after Hidan so it shouldnt be right to say he is stronger then Jiraya. Note: im not a Jiraya fan at all but still Hebi sasuke is weaker then him narrativeli speaking so is Kakuzu and Sasori... people who can beat full power Orichimaru are valid to take on and defeat Jiraya
@Soular248
@Soular248 Год назад
Deidara is not the weakest after Hidan you trippin. He can literally destroy a whole village and one shot a bijuu also him beating Gaara is no small feat. Kisame said Deidara was one of the stronger ones
@aceclover758
@aceclover758 Год назад
Deidera’s C4, in theory, could defeat almost anyone shown in Naruto. Not even the nine tails can regenerate from disintegration. But maybe it’s possible for wind to counter them. Thing is, it one didn’t aware of the c4, it’s even more deadly since it’s a fatal surprise attack. Naruto would’ve lost to c4. Same with Gaara, Sasori, even Pain unless he reflects or absorbs it
@donovan4222
@donovan4222 Год назад
Yeah but in a fight no one is going to just let Deidara drop a c4 on them, unless it’s some kind of surprise attack
@r4nd0m1zer2
@r4nd0m1zer2 Год назад
I think in anime logic you could probably counter explosions with other attacks. A 9 tails bijudama could probably be used to deflect a large part of the destructive power of C0 in a 1vs1
@Kamisuitendo
@Kamisuitendo Год назад
Unless you have a Sharigan or you're a 6paths ninja, you're not countering C4
@Kamisuitendo
@Kamisuitendo Год назад
@Jon Miller Why?
@r4nd0m1zer2
@r4nd0m1zer2 Год назад
@@Kamisuitendo I disagree. Imagine a 6 year old Deidara (with the kekkei genkai ofc) who's weaker than Iruka were to use C4 vs prime Hiruzen who can dodge attacks from the god tree mind you, but with more stamina and chakra. Ain't no way in hell he gets defeated by C4. When edo Nagato tried to rip out Naruto's soul he just pulled it back. He just grabed his sould and put it back. Without a Rinnegan pre 6paths. Imo its a bad argument to just say, that the characters, who can casually cut lightning in half when they are like 11 and are able tank fireblasts to the face and shurg them off completely just because they are strong, are bound to the same consequences than normal people, because the story takes place ina fantasy world where the laws of physics are more like suggestions of physics instead of laws.
@yusuforhanisik7992
@yusuforhanisik7992 Год назад
bro I love ur channel its so underrated
@r4nd0m1zer2
@r4nd0m1zer2 Год назад
I think that scaling Deidara's speed above or equal to the Raikages V2 cloak is not it. Deidara lost to Sasuke who got the better of him in every close combat situation. Sasuke got a massive amp. Then fought the Raikage and could only react to his speed with his MS but not with his body movements. So how could a weaker Sasuke who is slower than the Raikage be faster than Deidara who should be equal to the speed of the Raikage. I think you didn't take all facts into account here. Also, unless I'm stupid, the Pains that fought Jiraiya should have been stronger than the ones who invaded Konoha due to being closer to Nagato. They were close to imperfect sage Jiraiya in Amegakure but in Konoha one lost to KoNoHaMAru who is trash. Idk who'd win but it definetly isn't a stom. Also Deidara has kinda low defense so he probably gets close to threeshot by sage boy
@doommaster2.013
@doommaster2.013 Год назад
The moment I saw bruh say that Jiraiya, one of only THREE ninja with the title of Sannin say that "he's below Sannin level" I checked out immediately. And did bruh really say that Itachi is faster than Raikage Ay??? Dude? You being serious right now? Context is everything, Itachi was fully amped while fighting KCM Naruto who wasn't moving at full speed nor was at full power due to making multiple Kage level shadow clones to fight on the field. Itachi isn't KCM 1 Naruto level in terms of speed. Jiraiya himself is relative to the other 2 Sannin and scales above them by multiple statements (him threatening to kill Tsunade in part 1 and Tsunade drugging him so that she wouldn't have to fight him or have him interfere in her battle with Oro, Pain stating that he can't beat Jiraiya if Jiraiya knew of his own abilities and the obvious comparison of Naruto v Sasuke in part 1 being a direct representation of Jiraiya vs Oro when Oro left which puts Jiraiya above Oro bc Jiraiya was simply trying to bring Oro back the same way Naruto was, Jiraiya himself implies this comparison.) Jiraiya and Itachi are above all of the akatsuki members overall as shinobi (minus Pain and Obito).
@MegaSupernowa
@MegaSupernowa Год назад
Those guys aren't lore channels, they are on level of kids taking shit during the break lol
@percivalknightoftheflames855
Itachi is KCM1 Level him Trading Blows is literally consistent with his Perfect Susanoo which is Drawn By Kishimoto which supports it's canoncity being at bare Minimum KCM2 Level and there was no amp tf? He was an Edo if anything he was Nerfed
@AyusoEnjoyer
@AyusoEnjoyer Год назад
Jiraiya's sage mode is almost unbeatable by the time it appears on the story. He was stronger than Orochimaru, 4th Raikage, every Akatsuki member but Pain (6th at the time) and Obito probably, etc. The only guys who could beat him other than the mentioned were Killer Bee and maybe Itachi obtain a draw thanks to Amaterasu (excluding Yata and Totsuka, which are plot holes that simply should not exist). Jiraiya's base mode is little more than an strong Jounin, but sage mode is a ridiculous power up that a rival needs to prevent while fighting 3 huge toads. Anyways, I agree that during the Pain fight Jiraiya's sage mode should have been shown stronge.
@DygoKnight
@DygoKnight Год назад
"Almost unbeatable" gets beaten immediately
@Katokhann
@Katokhann 7 месяцев назад
@@Jon_Miller I mean yeah but that was against 3 of the paths of pain. As soon as all 6 pulled up it was over almost immediately.
@ottoia9126
@ottoia9126 Год назад
The argument "deidara can tank his own C1" is kinda moot bc he can more or less control how strong the explosion is.
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 Год назад
He created the C1 landmines with the intention of killing Sasuke. Seeing as the C1 landmines were already set in place to explode, there's no way he can decrease the impact upon landing on them.
@limbodor6110
@limbodor6110 Год назад
I like that nobody expects no one to “just wait and watch enemy doing something” but that’s exactly what is happening in this anime. They go from 1,10,30,70 to 100. Not straight to 100. And it’s a fight after all. There will be strategy and distractions. We talking about Jiraya. Not Guy right? So taking away Jiraya’s biggest advantage (reverse summoning) with this is kinda meh. Again, sensing those bombs is another advantage. I wouldn’t be surprised if Deidara decided to be again a suicide bomber and Jiraya came from toad’s mouth after.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
He didn't need that
@mee091000
@mee091000 Год назад
This is a really weird take tbh. Jiraiya is leagues above Deidara. While Deidara is one of the most powerful and potentially haxed characters in the series. Jiraiya has such a vast amount of Ninjitsu and knowledge of Ninjitsu in general. That nothing would truly take him by surprise except the suicide technique. As he would not expect Deidara to kill himself. But could just summon one of his toads to save him from the attack. Jiraiya would have essentially full knowledge of Deidara's techniques as he is very familiar with Deidara's village. While he himself does not have any notable lightning techniques I think... His summons have other jutsu that can be used as alternatives to exploit the weaknesses in Deidara's techniques. Remember that during the Akatsuki attack on Part 1. Which you praise so much. Itachi said that if he and Kisame tried to take on Jiraiya. At least one of them would die. Now I believe Itachi mostly said this because he and Jiraiya were working together behind the scenes. But I do also believe he was serious in the sense that he could still potentially kill either of them even in a 2v1. The Jiraiya vs Kisame debate is a bit different. But Deidara is not Kisame. He doesn't need Sage Mode either but if he goes into Sage Mode. Deidara will be instantly blitzed and probably one shot. There are some that try to scale Deidara to Sasuke. But you can't really scale Deidara to Orochimaru via Sasuke. As Orochimaru still won their fight while literally on his deathbed. People that ignore context say that Sasuke won. But Sasuke himself admitted Orochimaru could not be defeated that easily. And the entire fight with Itachi. Was done specifically for Orochimaru to be sealed until the next Great Ninja War had began. In really general it's not really fair to downscale an opponent because of their portrayal against Orochimaru. He is one of the most OP villains in the series and was constantly nerfed. While sick, dying, and being essentially unable to use his arms in Shippuden. He literally toyed with the same 4 Tailed Naruto that almost killed Jiraiya. He has consistently blitzed Sasori even while he was on guard. And used a "fight" between a Deidara and Sasori that were trying to kill him as a test for one of his Edos. Before even joining the Akatsuki he took a Shinra Tensei from Pain then literally shrugged it off while saying "Wow! That's interesting!" This legitimately scared Pain a bit and he let Orochimaru join so he didn't have to have him as an enemy. All that is just Base Healthy Shippuden Orochimaru. It's honestly just not a good take. You are underestimating Jiraiya's abilities and standing in the verse. You are also underestimating what he is willing to both lose and use as a Shinobi. While he does have a bond with his toads. If push comes to shove he will use them to save his life. All summons at Sanin or even Chunin level are aware of this fact. Even Hiruzen's summon Enma. Was more than willing to fight to the death with him. I'm sure Jiraiya's summons would not want to Jiraiya to accept death if they could trade their lives for his. Honestly that is kind of theme in Naruto at this point. Even Kurama sacrificed his life for Naruto.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
Feeling bad for you
@mee091000
@mee091000 Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 Lol what?
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@mee091000 i Said feeling bad for you Because you have to face some hard facts Don't read if you jiraiya Toxic fan 1. Deidara claps him 2. Itachi slams him 3. Kisame negs him 4. Adult Sakura stomps him 5. He is weakest sannin 6. What konohamaru did he can't even do it with some help
@HC-gm4fo
@HC-gm4fo Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 So basically you have no idea what you’re talking about 😂
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@HC-gm4fo i have And i dont think i have to explain these silly facts Any mature fan who isn't simp totally understand it
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
Also the Shukaku that Gamabunta fought wasn't a full power version because Gara didn't bring him out the normal way anyways, and he couldn't even use Bijudama. So yes Gamabunta is relative to a weaker Shukaku which is good for a non tailed beast and earns him along with Manda and Katsura title of the strongest summons but the Biju are a different level
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Год назад
So the problem here is that you're only using feats and not using any of the lore or taking the narrative into consideration... Jiraija is relative to Tsunade and Orochimaru... Tsunade NEVER did any training whatsoever from the time Jiraija died and when Tsunade fought against Madera... So that means they're still relative 💯 the narrative of the story simply screwed Jiraija over... having him die against pain ruined his feats and the fact that he didn't come back as an Edo screwed his feats even more... but obviously an Edo Jiraija would have been even stronger than Edo Hiruzen so I scale him higher and we could use Hiruzens feats for Jiraija .... but the Lore of Jiraija is more than enough to suggest that he would win against Deidara
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
Jiraiya is the weakest sannin
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 lol... ok but he's RELATIVE to Tsunade and Orochimaru which means that even if he is "the weakest Sannin" he's still very close in power to the others because they're all RELATIVE... none of the Sannin were even twice as powerful as one another, they're all balanced and basically equals. That being said, Tsunade never did any kind of training since Jiraijas death so that means she's exactly the same as she was when he was alive and therefore they're still relative in power when Tsunade fought against Madera 💯 Jiraija is just lacking in feats because he died early on and didn't get brought back as an Edo...
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
@@reptilian_geneticist Statements in the Series disprove them being relative Orochimaru is stated stronger then MS Sasuke MS Sasuke is stated Relative to Sage Naruto Sage Naruto is stated Superior to Sage Jiraiya
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Год назад
@@SRVaris none of that disproves anything actually... Id just argue that they're all relative... sage Naruto could be just 10%-20% stronger than Jiraija and that's enough to make a huge difference in battle while still being relative... there's nothing that states how much stronger sage Naruto got, he's just ambiguously stronger than Jiraija.... the power gaps between all those characters is a lot smaller than what you think...none of them are multiple times stronger than another... and the way in which Naruto truly surpassed Jiraija is in the way of the Shinobi, creating the rasenshuriken (something not even the 4th accomplished) and mastering sage mode... yeah sage Naruto is stronger but more importantly he's a much better shinobi and that's what makes all the difference... not the marginally ambiguous power increase
@spit-fire
@spit-fire Год назад
Jiraiya’s not gonna let diedera get distance on him. He’s going to easily close any distance with a toad summon. Diedera can’t do shit up close
@kaibrigance8244
@kaibrigance8244 Год назад
@@nn_austin2181 and gamabunta can jump multiple miles away before he even starts exploding because he can sense it with sage mode.
@xylynthian753
@xylynthian753 Год назад
Neither could overcome Kakazu's raw durability
@chrisman9555
@chrisman9555 Год назад
Isnt it stated that if jiraiya knew pains abilities he could have beaten him, might be wrong but I thought I remember that?
@setelionsetelion6253
@setelionsetelion6253 Год назад
Logic of these guys: Deidara had a fair match with Naruto in the first episodes, therefore Naruto in the last episode is considered god level, so Deidara is god level. Damn, even Kiba in the chunning exams almost beated him so he is god level too.
@scorpionor9865
@scorpionor9865 5 месяцев назад
The fact that Naruto was coming with Jiraiya and Konoha allowed that because they knew he was extremely strong that other akatsuki team wouldn’t chase them. Obito only told Itachi he wouldn’t touch Konoha but he never swore not to capture Naruto himself, or send other team to capture Naruto. Jiraiya was no doubt a threat Akatsuki didn’t want to fuck with. So yup, you can tell Itachi and Kisame could have defeated Jiraiya if they really tried but that doesn’t mean any other Akatsuki team had enough bravery to risk catching Naruto when Jiraiya was by his side. Just wanna mention this so we can make sure we are not underating Jiraiya :v
@QuasarKen009
@QuasarKen009 Год назад
This guy....wtf hahahaha What is he smocking ? C1 = mountain lv. Forgot to mention how Sai one shots him
@Mizukage1177
@Mizukage1177 Год назад
You should do deidara vs gengetsu hozuki 🔥🔥🔥
@Chill1234.
@Chill1234. Год назад
Jiraiya has oil that can slow Deidara and fire style that can blow up his clay before Deidara can even throw his clay creatures. Jiraiya has Gamabunta and now you tell me that Deidara can handle both Gamabunta and Jiraiya at the same time? Jiraiya has the toad stomach, his base rasengan that is pretty strong his hair that can act as a shield, a weapon for close range and long range, has a jutsu that can sense intruders and probably the bombs that Deidara plants. Jiraiya can also summon Gamaken, can make shadow clones and in the Pain fight Jiraiya made fire style jutsu without weaving hand signs. Jiraiya in the Pain fight couldn’t use his hands beacuse he was going in Sage Mode and Jiraiya still hit like three or four dogs just by spinning and kicking them where you see how agile he is in base without using hands and how good is he in taijutsu. Jiraiya has dark swamp that can drown all the creatures that Deidara has on the ground. And I didn't even talk about Sage Mode Jiraiya. Base Jiraiya beats Deidara. And if you want me to scale A>B then I can tell you that Orochimaru with his hands and a healthy body= Jiraiya and Orochimaru>Hebi Sasuke>Deidara
@akiraman7664
@akiraman7664 Год назад
I was here since 1.2k we've come a long way ❣❣💝
@bruh-tx7tb
@bruh-tx7tb Год назад
Jiraiya wins no question. He has sage mode. Even if he doesn't prepare he could do what Naruto did like leaving shadow clones to gather sage chakra for him.
@Kamisuitendo
@Kamisuitendo Год назад
How does he counter C4?
@Kamisuitendo
@Kamisuitendo Год назад
@Jon Miller What about his micro bombs?
@bruh-tx7tb
@bruh-tx7tb Год назад
@@Kamisuitendo he can summon toads to counter those.
@AK-su3tz
@AK-su3tz Год назад
@@bruh-tx7tb How exactly?
@bruh-tx7tb
@bruh-tx7tb Год назад
@@AK-su3tz sage mode. Regardless of deidara being able to fly jiraiya can summon toads to kill deidara. Plus jiraiya won't die easily because of sage mode.
@heroldjaras9909
@heroldjaras9909 Год назад
jiraiya sage mode > deidara
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Год назад
Definitely... Jiraijas lore is more than enough to say he beats Deidara... Jiraijas feats or lack of feats is misleading
@austinherzog8465
@austinherzog8465 Год назад
Clown
@heroldjaras9909
@heroldjaras9909 Год назад
@@austinherzog8465 who? you?
@austinherzog8465
@austinherzog8465 Год назад
@@heroldjaras9909 you’re a clown if you think Jiraiya has a prayer vs Deidara
@heroldjaras9909
@heroldjaras9909 Год назад
Nah. You are the clown. Im not.
@ERGO19
@ERGO19 Год назад
deidara scaling to the raikage is a crazy statement im gonna assume yall meant base raikage
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
7:34 I will mention that Deidara didn't get caught in the full blast, implying that if he didn't dodge a second sooner he probably would've been killed
@donovan4222
@donovan4222 Год назад
Yeah the idea that Deidara could just tank a giant rasengan is nuts
@MegaSupernowa
@MegaSupernowa Год назад
Mate... What's next? Would TenTen win against pain? If you want to make it in the Naruto scene you've got to do real content not gigantic stretches and clickbaits.
@Stolas9
@Stolas9 Год назад
I think Sage Jiraiya would be able to sense the micro bombs and blow them away with wind style. So even tho you're right about the C4 being very strong jutsu, it wouldn't really work against Sage Jiraiya because of this reason. But it's no problem, because a casual C1 bird bomb would one tap Sage Jiraiya anyway, so no need for the C4. Very good video, btw. Finally some accurate Jiraiya scaling. 👍💪
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
He could get caught in a C4 clone
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Год назад
@@jonmiller9109 excellent counter argument you have there
@herodude6169
@herodude6169 Год назад
I don't agree with this statement. Although I think deidara wins in the end I don't think C1 can on tap jiriya. C1 doesn't have a definite amount of power it just depends on how much clay/chakra was placed. If deidara molded a snake it would not be enough to blow up a biju. We see this in the itachi fight. The reason the 3 tails lost was because of the size of that. Look how big that C1 nomb was. It would have taken deidara time to make it. He wouldn't have that time in a 1v1. So no C1 won't 1 tap jiriya. If this was the case, itachi sasori and kisame would have all died trying to recruit him and he would have just tanked it
@herodude6169
@herodude6169 Год назад
Also wats deidara going to do if he gets hit by toad song(his eye traker wouldnt be effective). And if jiriya traps deidara in the frog intestines when he drops a bomb then deidara would have to tank that bomb leaving him weaker ir even dead
@AK-su3tz
@AK-su3tz Год назад
How would he sense them
@trupimp2211
@trupimp2211 Год назад
This vid ain’t it. Sage Mode sensory alone can read all of deidaras attacks. Jiraiya low diffs deidara
@austinherzog8465
@austinherzog8465 Год назад
You’re crazy
@Jusaguywithbrain
@Jusaguywithbrain 5 дней назад
Yeah sm can read it... When he couldn't even react to ashura path coming behind...speaking to him...then destroying him...
@wem_iii
@wem_iii Год назад
After the Pain Arc the power scailing gets goofy
@hamzaskzix
@hamzaskzix Год назад
Can you make video Madara vs Ishiki we all know who is the winner tho 💀
@marko1263
@marko1263 Год назад
Deidara faster than the Raikage? Lay off the drugs son Dygo, u should've pushed back on this bs
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
Reaction speed
@senjuuzima891
@senjuuzima891 Год назад
Jiraya is beating diedara. The sanin ~ old hiruzen who is still > the other kage.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
Lol ohnoki one shot him
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
"old hiruzen who is still > the other kage." Pre Shippuden Kage not Shippuden Kage This Matters because now we have to look at the only Kage to have any feats Pre Shippuden which would be Ay who is weaker then Jonin Minato and Jonin Minato is Weaker then Bee Fight Sasuke who is stated to not have fully recovered meaning Shippuden Ay ~ Shippuden Bee > Hebi Sasuke > Bee Fight Sasuke > Jonin Minato > Pre Shippuden Ay
@Ayushmanz
@Ayushmanz 2 месяца назад
5:55 do you know the difference between velocity and acceleration?
@positivevibesonly146
@positivevibesonly146 8 месяцев назад
Jariaya is extremely versatile and a survivor… He has shadow clones, ma and pa, hundreds of frogs with various abilities, genjitsu, his lions mane cane protect him and attack etc. He has lots of experience
@kirby17
@kirby17 8 месяцев назад
So, Dygo Spanking Jiraya whit Simulated fights is a thing since the very Beggning of the Channel ?
@doomsdaygaming9928
@doomsdaygaming9928 Год назад
I've always thought Deidara was SEVERALLY underrated
@Mrgraduation
@Mrgraduation Год назад
Old man Hiruzen>5 Kage Kabuto said this infront of Orochimaru, who has first hand knowledge about all the kage, and said nothing to correct him at all- He just got done killing two kage in the span of like 2 weeks 😭 If all the base sannin scale literally anywhere near old man hiruzen, SM jiraiya should scale above Deidara/ Imo! 😪
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
"Old man Hiruzen>5 Kage" Pre Shippuden 5 Kage not Shippuden 5 Kage This Matters because now we have to look at the only Kage to have any feats Pre Shippuden which would be Ay who is weaker then Jonin Minato and Jonin Minato is Weaker then Bee Fight Sasuke who is stated to not have fully recovered meaning Shippuden Ay ~ Shippuden Bee > Hebi Sasuke > Bee Fight Sasuke > Jonin Minato > Pre Shippuden Ay
@Mrgraduation
@Mrgraduation Год назад
@@SRVaris Bee’s statement of sasuke being the strongest guy he fought is shaky, from what I remember he said “probably” not definitive Bee fight Sasuke>Jonnin Minato
@ItachiUchiha_1724
@ItachiUchiha_1724 Год назад
Itachi said it would kill both him and jiraiya if they fought (Most likey cuz he has ninja aids that kill him when he uses chakra) But itachi treats deidara like a boy So deidara probably wouldn't win Plus have we seen the maximum of jiraiya He probably couldn't use his full arsenal against pain
@Jama004
@Jama004 Год назад
Lol I’m a minute into this vid and they still haven’t said April fools
@andrewwilkins3014
@andrewwilkins3014 Год назад
Your voices are awwwssssss
@AnderDoUrden
@AnderDoUrden Год назад
This is a very well made video and even if I think Deidara is usually HIGHLY overrated and before watching I would have said that Jiraiya 100% would win... now, I have to admit that... yes. The same. Deidara is DEFINITELY highly overrated and Jiraiya would win, not casually or extremely easily, no, he would have to put some effort but in the end, absolutely, for sure. Jiraiya wins
@ClanDarkassasins
@ClanDarkassasins Год назад
How about if Deidara helped Jiraiya vs Pain in the rain village??? I believe that would be a fun topic.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
Then Deva path will fight Idiot
@ClanDarkassasins
@ClanDarkassasins Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 This question wasn't intended for children so shhh little buddy and go to sleep.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@ClanDarkassasins i intend to I am sick and tired of jiraiya toxic fans Some harsh reality 1. deidara crush sm jiraiya mid diff 2. Itachi slams him neg diff 3. Kisame slams him neg diff 4. Hebi sasuke slams him neg diff 5. Tsunade and orochimaru claps him He is the weakest sannin ofc 6. What konohamaru did alone jiraya can't evn with help of legendary frogs lol
@ClanDarkassasins
@ClanDarkassasins Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 What are you even talking about kid? All I litterally did was suggest an idea of Deidara helping Jiraiya in the pain fight. How is suggesting an idea toxic? Start making sense or I have nothing further to say to you lol.
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@ClanDarkassasins yeah if have nothing to do then my facts are correct All i just want this lol 🤣🤣🤣
@blueragebarz
@blueragebarz Год назад
This is so incredibly biased it’s hilarious. Stop scaling.
@benjaminsoren405
@benjaminsoren405 Год назад
Just started the video and you claimed two false statements… 1. Being “extremely strong akatsuki member” deidara is strong don’t get me wrong but he’s like…bottom 4 only being a clear above hidan, zestu and ARGUABLY Konan. 2. Jaraiya IS a Sannin (all equal 3 way deadlock) so how could he be “barely sannin level” if he himself is a sannin… Edit: Also Toad Stomach…and frog song… and lava rasengan… and summons which outmatch deidaras “summons”
@overratedh4ze
@overratedh4ze Год назад
Here before 1k views
@Lee___H
@Lee___H Год назад
Stopped the video at 5 mins cause no one wants to account for pain knowing all of jirayias abilities and that's why 6+ fields of view can react to such things...
@yeager1957
@yeager1957 Год назад
I really hope we get a Rewriting Boruto at some point just because seeing the sheer amount of fixes applied would be funny
@BlazeWolf9511
@BlazeWolf9511 Год назад
While I think Jiraiya is technically stronger then Deidara, I’m not gonna pretend he has a concrete way out of deidara’s C4 explosives. That shit would more likely then not kill any other target unless. They have to be aware of the tiny microscopic bombs and the have a possible means for disabling them. Which is done by channeling lighting style through the body. If you don’t have that, then its game over.
@SoullessFN
@SoullessFN Год назад
In a super enclosed environment is only way jiriya has a chance with the mountain toad getting deidara stuck and maybe he has enough time to do a genjustu
@SoullessFN
@SoullessFN Год назад
But 9\10 times deidara mops the floor
@daiblo.dshadow
@daiblo.dshadow Год назад
Soo true
@shaunrosenberg4568
@shaunrosenberg4568 Год назад
For a second I thought this was going to be a Jiraiya solos everyone video because he "totally almost beat Pain." I'm glad it wasn't.
@kaibrigance8244
@kaibrigance8244 Год назад
No instead it was "He loses to Deidara because he lost to Pain", which makes even less sense.
@shaunrosenberg4568
@shaunrosenberg4568 Год назад
@@kaibrigance8244 It wasn't he lost to Jiraiya because he lost to Pain. Did you watch the video. It compared the two and their abilities. Jiraiya is strong, but people act like he can beat people he has no chance against.
@kaibrigance8244
@kaibrigance8244 Год назад
@@shaunrosenberg4568 They have completely different abilities, Pain can wipe out entire nations with little to no difficulty while Deidara can wipe out like 1/3 of a nation and it kills him. He easily stands a chance against Deidara at the least, but he most likely wins that fight because of his summons and hax deidara doesn't have and cant conquer.
@shaunrosenberg4568
@shaunrosenberg4568 Год назад
@@kaibrigance8244 If Deidara uses his micro bombs it's all over. There's nothing Jiraiya can really do against it. You really need to have either the Sharigan or Byakugan to stand a chance at countering it.
@kaibrigance8244
@kaibrigance8244 Год назад
@@shaunrosenberg4568 He has sage mode, he can literally sense them coming, call up gamabunta and dip outta there, or he can reverse summon himself. And imperfect sage and sage mode are relativly the same.
@youssefwaelsamy4163
@youssefwaelsamy4163 Год назад
Besides the video its really intresting the fact that you made a video with gritty who litreally disagrees with you with 99% of shippuden debates!!! I thought that you both will be arguing for eternity the moment you ever share the same screen
@lucario2able
@lucario2able Год назад
I feel like if Jiraiya landed his Toad Genjutsu on Pains he should more than be capable of landing it on Deidara. If I remember right did Ma and PA need to get themselves read since they barely use that technique? If that's the case Jiraiya can do things to defend himself while they straighten their throats so to speak and hit him with it. Ggs.
@beshiramousse6234
@beshiramousse6234 Год назад
I think it depends on the location too much Because deidara wouldn't be that much powerful if he isn't in an open area Also just like deidara had a bad match up against sasuke I think this match up here is unfair for jiraya since he is close-mid range fighter Also the pain paths that fought naruto must be weaker than the ones that jiraya fought They literally just blew up a village and fought against multiple ninjas Also jiraya had much less intel against pain than naruto did
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
12:23 I disagree, Deidara says something like he almost gets caught in the blast, and that attack was like maybe small building level honestly wall level if we're being honest. I do think Deidara's substitution is some of the best in the series however
@andrewdecker616
@andrewdecker616 Год назад
Y'all need to stop downplaying my man, people act like lart1 Moegi stomps jiraiya.
@azureascendant994
@azureascendant994 Год назад
Does anyone know what happens to clay and explosives when they are dosed in hot water or are in a pool of hot water? Pervy sage for the win. The Pain fight is not a very good fight to estimate this hypothetical fight. Jiraiya was literally fighting a guy who called himself a god.
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 Год назад
Do you know what happens to paper when it makes contact with fire? It burns up right? Yet here we have Konan's paper overpowering Jiriayas fire jutsu. Also, lightning is super effective against earth which is the complete opposite in Pokemon. So...idk what you're trying to prove with your comment.
@azureascendant994
@azureascendant994 Год назад
@@ShadowFiend777 Lol.
@azureascendant994
@azureascendant994 Год назад
@@ShadowFiend777 This is why writers of shonen and game developers should've paid attention in high school physics and chemistry classes.
@HC-gm4fo
@HC-gm4fo Год назад
Deidara is going to blow up shit randomly? He can see Jiraiya?
@trevionhenderson5721
@trevionhenderson5721 Год назад
You guys just love Deidara or hate Jiraiya that much?
@tobito-uv8ze
@tobito-uv8ze Год назад
Thats a terrible, extremely biased video. Other comments have pointed out how much you are underrating jiraya so i wouldnt waste my breath.
@positivevibesonly146
@positivevibesonly146 8 месяцев назад
Right now based on these snubbing of Jairiya even I feel like I have a chance to beat the guy.
@Sunaki1000
@Sunaki1000 Год назад
3:35 I dont think you could block that whit Durability, but there are a few other Methodes, Hashirama can still Sense Chakra, you might survive if you can teleport, hold your breath, or absorb the Chakra out of the Air, or out of your Body. 6:35 oh yes, Gamabunta made a Statement here about the Fight. After he got hit once, he was pretty injured and recommended to Naruto he sould wake up Gaara. So im pretty sure Gamabunta was weaker then Shukaku, his Ninjutsu was about equal, but he has less Chakra, and his Taijutsu fails, because his short Sword got stuck in Shukakus sandy Body whitout dealing any Damage. He was a bit more agile, but still a big Target. So he wouldnt have lasted long if the fight had continued for a longer period of Time. About who wins, I think Jiraiya has to switch into a favorable Location and maybe catch Deidara whit his Toad Stomage Technic, or use the big Fire Move he used whit Gamabunta in the Sannin Fight. Or Gamabuntas Watherballs. Maybe a Genjutsu from the two Toads? Its not like he has no Tools to work whit, he could survive C0 like Sasuke, Senninmode is good against the C2 Landmines and maybe his Needles to pierce the Ground? Maybe even some Sealing Justs to get rid of C4, if he figures it out, I think Seninmode can give him Sensor Abilitys. The Question is jusf, why sould he go all out, and can he go all out fast enough, cause Senninmode needs Time, and the Stomache needs a favorable Location. 7:00 whata not what happened? He just stopped the Bijuu, then we see Kishimoto cut away. We couldnt see the entire Fight. 12:20 we didnt realy saw him blocking, he likely just dodged whit his 4,5 Speed Stat. And besides some exceptional Charakters, mainly Charakters in the late War, they all Human. That means if kid Naruto could hit Itachi whit a Kunai on the Neck, Itachi would die. So durability in most cases is very irrelevant. There are some scenes in Part 1, where Naruto or Sasuke got kicked into a Wall and the Wall was jusf shattering, but for the most part talking something Iike Chidori, or Rasengan, or C1 whitout any Armor, or Healing ability just straight up kills you. I mean you can dissagree whit me and there are maybe some other examples what contradict me, but it would be pretty sad, cause i got drawn to the Series because everyone was squishy. It was a completly new Experience after Digimon, Pokemon and Dragonball Classic.
@randyyansaud1797
@randyyansaud1797 9 месяцев назад
sorry guys, but i think you're mad on this one. i don't see a world where sage mode jirayia would lose in terms of speed, or even power level in general, to deidara. the dude literally fought Pain 1v6 and only lost because he didn't understand they were just puppets before he got caught by surprise and gravely wounded by the resurrected bodies. deidara wouldn't even have had a chance to make it out alive that far, let alone figuring out the truth during a fight against the 6 Pain. as for the C4, i mean, who cares really? it's a suicide jutsu, and if he uses it, it means he already lost the fight in the first place.
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 8 месяцев назад
Jiriaya did not fight Pain 1v6. As soon as all 6 paths showed up it was entirely one sided and even after fleeing and singling out 1 path, he was still barely able to take it down.
@TheTeaNinja
@TheTeaNinja Год назад
Jiraiya only needs to get in range to trap Deidara in Toad Mouth Bind or Crushing Toad Stomach - either one. Deidara no longer as field advantage and can’t blast out of it either. Gets bodied by a massive Rasengan point blank or gets digested.
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
10:28 the female animal path we know for sure is this weak physically because being the animal path summon takes the most chakra, which makes sense considering summons are some of the most chakra expending jutsu for normal people. She can't even jump high and relies on the other pains for this if she isn't using a summon to move
@orbboom6119
@orbboom6119 Год назад
And also bc she's a WOMAN hahhahahahahhahaha
@Sweetlesishere
@Sweetlesishere Год назад
@@orbboom6119 lmao. Okay but she's also super hot. Remember the bdsm scene with Ibiki Morino?
@orbboom6119
@orbboom6119 Год назад
@@Sweetlesishere yesssirrr
@justlol7281
@justlol7281 Год назад
This jiraya disrespect is blasphemous.
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg
@Handsomeguy-kj2jg Год назад
Bos garra ain’t on the same level of war arc garra. Soo deidara speed is simply
@strider_hiryu850
@strider_hiryu850 Год назад
didn't Seth and Swag do a Hebi Sasuke vs Jiraiya? i forget who they declared the winner. but if their name started with anything other than an S or an M: they were mistaken
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
They are baised Don't watch their video then you will also become toxic He literally in one of the video said that Hinata would beat sakura low diff lol 🤣🤣🤣
@strider_hiryu850
@strider_hiryu850 Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 i remember that one. that was funny 😂😂
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@strider_hiryu850 that's why deidara claps sm jiraiya
@tistakere5055
@tistakere5055 Год назад
@@Lisa__cifer_4662 jiraiya beats deidara with not much trouble
@Lisa__cifer_4662
@Lisa__cifer_4662 Год назад
@@tistakere5055 maybe in Itachi tsukyomi
@ansonwatling7787
@ansonwatling7787 7 месяцев назад
Did they not see the fight? The entire time, sasuke was too fast for deidera, he even said that sasukes too fast for him. So how could they ever say that deidera has above-raikage level speed.. deidera just isnt particularly fast. Also you cant assume every biju is the same because theyre not the same, they each have a different level of power.
@Takagi_san
@Takagi_san Год назад
Funny how so many guys love Deidara ^^ I don't like him ... Everything he says is annoying ... Art is not an Explosion ... As an artist myself ... Art is something that's for eternity... Not just a moment 😉
@Takagi_san
@Takagi_san Год назад
Sorry for my English ... Iam from Austria
@ShadowFiend777
@ShadowFiend777 Год назад
Relax Sasori, your English is fine.
@arakatsu3090
@arakatsu3090 Год назад
i wonder how many people took this video seriously
@eduarddaniel9
@eduarddaniel9 Год назад
A kamikaze vs an experienced sage mode user 🥱
@blakrown
@blakrown Год назад
It took me an hour to get threw this video
@chadbushell
@chadbushell Год назад
This ain't it fam. You're acting as though Jiraiya and his toads are going to be completely still and wait for Deidara to drop bombs on them. Are you forgetting that his giant toads can jump very high?? Come on man.
@jamall7003
@jamall7003 Год назад
Deidara had to substitute from naruto's kurama amped rasengan ain't no way Jariya's giant rasengan isn't hurting him. Susano armor is different from flesh and bone
@mercylavigne
@mercylavigne Год назад
BRO REALLY USED VS BATTLE AS AN ARGUMENT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@Exiled28
@Exiled28 Год назад
This is what logic would dictate but I'm pretty sure if Kishimoto writes this fight there's no way a fodder akatsuki like Deidara would win, ofc Jiraiya might struggle but Jiraiya is a complete ninja with a variety of jutsus and most importantly he's collected unlike Deidara here that just blows himself up when things don't go his way and STILL fails.
@shubhambagdiya6801
@shubhambagdiya6801 Год назад
10:10 it was fucking blocked because other pains have connected rinnegans, so actually he knew it was coming, and obviously pain summoning was faster than it moving, also it can only be blocked you cannot run away from it for some reason, so yeah you need to rewatch naruto by paying attention to it and not just rewatch naruto for sake of rewatching it if you are going to scale naruto characters.
@Rck-vert
@Rck-vert Год назад
It was blocked because Pain is fast enough to block it. As a matter of fact Jiraya tried to catch Pain off gaurd with smoke bombs n distractions which shows his inferiority . It cannot be dodged by Pain because Jiraya is firing like a 100 needles in his direction while Pain was partially off gaurd 😂
@shubhambagdiya6801
@shubhambagdiya6801 Год назад
@@Rck-vert Bro Nagato was using 3 path of pains vs jiraiya in which one of them is using literal immortal summonings that get stronger everytime you hit them, plus rinnegan that are connected so you can't surprise attack it, and jiraiya using smoke bomb shows his inferiority 🤦‍♂️
@tsukiyami7101
@tsukiyami7101 Год назад
Lol he plants a bomb on base jiraya n no diffs him😹
@CuteAssTiger
@CuteAssTiger Год назад
How is rasenshuriken similar to C4 xD ?
@desmos5
@desmos5 Год назад
They both durability negation
@hellothere2596
@hellothere2596 10 месяцев назад
4:56 bruh💀
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