Jodie Hildebrandts Niece Speaks Out About Her Experience | 8 Passengers 

It is not the responsibility of a victim to stop the perpetrator’s potential future crimes. There were enough people around Jessi who knew something was wrong and didn’t do enough. Despite that Jessi did go to the police and was dismissed. Even in a perfect system where victims are believed, it’s still not the victim’s responsibility to come forward. Their responsibility is only to themselves, to survive and hopefully thrive like Jessi appears to be doing.

i'd be willing to bet ANYTHING that the allegations Ruby made against her own kid in court (about him molesting kids in the neighborhood and being addicted to *orn since he was 3)... ALL came from one of Jodi's dreams and Ruby believes her.

Jessi is so brave I never knew this kind of stuff existed. Praying for healing for all of these victims. I hope that Jodi and Ruby get exactly what they deserve.

You know what the worst part isn’t even all the evidence coming out against her, the worst part is that Jodi is sitting in her cell thinking she’s being “persecuted” for doing what’s “right”

Jessi went to the police at 16 years old. No one believed Jessi; or if they did, they were too afraid to act. Jessi is a f***ing hero as much as Young RF.

Mormon stories is an incredible podcasts bc they don't put limits on time they get the full story from the brave souls that are there!

Jessi's story and what that child went through broke my heart... her Aunt is insanely evil

Jessi did seek help and was ignored and sent back for more abuse. She went to neighbors, she went to police, church members and leadership knew something was wrong - Jessi was failed by them all. For them to still speak up now after going through all that is fucking amazing.

John Dehlin is the best. I am an Exmo from Utah raised in the church this story is heart wrenching but I can attest to the behavior of many Mormon therapists. At 16 I was sent to one "chosen" by my parents Bishop who was so despicable I had the sense to run out of the session and never go back. My heart goes out to Jessi. I hope that Jodi and Ruby get the highest sentence possible in Utah. Unfortunately Utah has horrid sentencing guidelines.

Her interview was horrific. I feel so bad for her and all the others Jodi has victimized

They probably only feel safe talking about the abuse now because Jodi is locked up. So many people don’t speak up because they are so afraid of what might happen.

Thank you Josh for your work and your associates work on this video. You have answered a lot of questions that I was curious about concerning the LDS vs Christianity. These people who had to deal with Jodie have been through hell and back. It is so sad and just plain disgusting that Jodie had that much power over people. Mind blowing.

Kudos to Jessi!!! Such a beacon of hope, so eloquent, so strong and authentic , beautiful human they are, their articulation and understanding is fantastic! Eye opener,they came out so resilient ❤❤❤ My heart aches for what they went through but it warms up when you know they speaks for the children from those dysfunctional communities… ❤

Jessi deserves to be the loudest voice in this whole story. Thank you for covering this interview.

I can't imagine being told a normal developmental behaviour is a sin and then to be abused for it, it's inhuman

Josh I grew up independent fundamental baptist and I was taught to argue my religion since kindergarten, we went out twice a week to knock on doors and try to “lead people to Jesus” from the time I was very young until I chose not to do it anymore when I was in my late teens. Everything about the way you were saying Mormons raise their kids applies to my upbringing as well. I only say that to let you know that this type of brainwashing can be in any religion.

I disagree that Ruby got sucked in to Jodi’s ideas. I think Ruby had these twisted desires and beliefs on her own and met Jodi and the two similar minds and egos created a living hell for the kids. They are both equally responsible!!!!

Don't give up, you are a major part of things changing. You have spent years working at this and we are at the beginning of a change. You have people like myself that didn't like you but you opened our eyes and we stand firmly behind you. You can take strength in that. Thank you for what you are doing.

It’s absolutely heart breaking that Jessie’s dad wasn’t concerned about how badly she was abused but how it would make their family look. My heart goes out to Jessie.

Jessi is so brave for coming out with their story. Also incredibly well spoken. Would basically listen to anything they came out with.

Your comment about the churches not having secrets reminded me of a time my husband and I ran into our pastor at the grocery store. He openly admitted he was there buying gluten-free "body of Christ" for commune. We all laughed.

I fell asleep days ago while listening to this interview and I literally had nightmares listening to it while asleep. I just can't imagine what is was like going through such abuse. That's some really dark, demonic stuff!

The amount of money the Mormon church has to make this go away is terrifying.

I watched the whole interview and its so obvious what Jodi has been doing for DECADES

Josh, I love your heart! I’ve watched your older stuff and know why you left the ministry. But you are so raw and real! You have a message that can reach so many nonconformist! Keep being awesome!

Our whole family was blacklisted by the LDS church - we asked the right questions and the lead missionary said “they know” to the other missionary, they left, and no one in our family or extended family has had a missionary knock on our door in 10 years 😳

I'm so glad you watched the video of them telling their story.. horrific what they have been thru, very courageous of them, and they will help many for it . I watched both the lives of them, and another victim.. about 5 hours but VERY worth it... Thank you Josh.. Jessi you have many supporter's. You are a very strong person.., more than you know.. and so many will be helped by your story.. God Bless

You matter a lot Josh!!! Thank you so much, for all you do!!! ❤

I bet a lot of people don’t even realize Joseph Smith was an OG scam artist.

I said the same thing to my husband. Jessie seems like a very smart young lady.

Jessi is so incredibly strong, smart, brave, and resiliant. WOW - I bet many people will feel heard, validated and hopefully empowered after hearing their story. Jessi will change many lives ❤️

Oooh I’ve been waiting for you to cover this!! This story is horrific.

Thank you, Josh. I appreciate you sharing your story, your faith. Your sincere thoughts are very moving.

QUESTION: Can someone with legal knowledge tell me if the videos of past abuse can played for the jury. That would show she was not brainwashed. She wanted to escalate the abuse.

grateful for all you are doing to spread awareness on this, praying you tube does the right thing

I've been waiting for you to share this very eye opening. So much of what you've assumed about her parenting style is completely true. My jaw dropped watching this. Incredible

Her last sentence, when retelling what her father wrote to her is the response to your plea for survivors to speak up.

I am an ex-Mormon. At a very early age I learned how screwed up the church was. My mom was Mormon and my dad was Catholic. A lot of higher ups in the church treated my mom like crap because of that. There was another couple in the church. The wife was a sweet person and her husband had been released from prison for plotting to murder his wife (he and his girlfriend were plotting to murder the wife). Because he was a Mormon they overlooked what he did at treated him like he could walk on water. What I got out of learning about that was, if you’re a Mormon who plots with his girlfriend to murder his wife, you get a pass, but if you’re a good person who does right by the church and you’re married to someone outside of the religion, you’re nothing. That (among other hypocrisies) are the reasons why I left the church at 15 (it’s been 43 years). I do have to say that when you are little children in the church, you do learn from the Bible (Sunday school teachers would read to us from the Bible and later when we were old enough to read, we would read it ourselves). I can honestly say I have never read The Book of Mormon, nor do I have any desire to. I don’t ever regret leaving the church. I don’t miss it and I am smart enough to know that I do not have to be in a church in order for God to hear my prayers.

Hearing this breaks my heart 😢 no one should go through any abuse like Jodi’s and Ruby’s

Yes!!! Been waiting for this!! Thanks Josh!

I have seen this video of hers before. Well, recently. Very shocking… But explains a lot. I also wanted to say that I love it when you do, deep dives like this into recent issues.

Loving this channel ❤ Time difference sucks I am in South Africa but love when I see a new episode

The bible says multiple times that Jesus loves children so it just proves this is bogus because God would not be working through Jodi to harm children amd teach people iow to discipline children. So sad and i could never imagine treatimg children that way.

Hope Jesse sees this, the wise & wonderful words of Josh I mean. I’m impressed by what a strong eloquent being they are. Never ever deserved to be treated such a way. But they’ve come out the other side brave & kind. Blessed be Jesse.

I used to work with a sweet girl that worked at one of those camps during her summer break. She said she reported abuse both physical and sexual that she had witnessed! She said she kept notes with dates and names and mailed the information home to her mother. She told her mother to find out more information about the camp. She said after her mother found out that it was a church backed camp, She called their headquarters and said she needed to get her daughter home because of a family emergency. She had a book full of kids that were abused and all of the names abusers by then. They eventually closed that camp down but she said she knew that they'd change their name and would be out there abusing more kids! She said they were nice kids with problems and the trauma they received only made their problems worse! She said that she would never forget that horrible summer! She said that the camp was in the mountains and they never told them what state they were in. Her mother showed her letters were mailed from Utah!

Thank you for always covering these families and the things they do. Its so sad that with all the proof and evidence they still have the audacity to say "we're not exploiting our kids, they are safe." Money Money Money is the drive for them to continue.

Wow! This is very sad Josh. Just crazy! I feel bad for the children.😢😢

I been waiting for this video. Thank you!

I was born and raised in the Mormon culture/cult. It's no coincidence that there are extreme cults within cults. The Mormon church is a perfect example of extreme ideas reinforced with the belief that it's what God wants. I finally got out of that cult...but will never be free of the damage it caused me as a child, and so many of my family members, some of whom are still active in that religion. My heart breaks for brave young women. I know her pain all too well.

I’m a Mormon since 1970 (with some questions…) The church teaches that the Bible is only true in the parts that are translated correctly. The Book of Mormon is considered 100% true since it came through a rock in a hat, to Joseph smith. The Mormon church also has a Bible called the JST (Joseph Smith Translation) Joseph Smith fixes the problems with the Bible. The JST was never completed because Joseph Smith was killed.

i hope jody goes away for life. i’m so glad you’re sharing their story here. so brave of them to share this trauma with the world, i hope it helps them and other victims to get justice. they deserve all the love, support and success in their tattoo career.

I was hoping you’d cover this some more…especially the interview. 😳 thanks DCP!

It`s amazing ,after everything this young lady has been through ,just how eloquent and grounded she is.What she was put through was unforgiveable and i hope her aunt is made to compensate her victims.x

I don't think those kids would have been prevented from being in this position with out RU-vid. I think that evil was in ruby and would have went on regardless. Thankfully she provided years of proof of the abuse because she put it online. Otherwise it would have all been their word against ruby.

Love your show..keep going..from ireland❤

I'm a big Jessi fan. It takes guts for them to speak up at a time like this.

In high school i had 2 mormons come up to me and say im not saved and i said im Christian and they said im going to hell if i dont convert to Mormonism lol

I always enjoy watching you and hearing your opinions josh. Thank you

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm not sure I'm ready to hear the gruesome details during the trial. My heart is still recovering from hearing what happened to JJ and his sister in the Lori Vallow Daybell case.

I listened to Jessi's entire interview and was blown away at how much they endured at the hands of their psychotic aunt. I am outraged that nobody listened to them, that nobody put a stop to Jodi when they could have. I commend Jessi for their bravery and telling their story. I pray healing for them.

Great video Josh. Thank you!

I been following everything on crime network and the judge handling their case Jodi is connected to because she has ppl on her side that are very high up who are connected to the judge etc

Thank you for coverage on Jessi’s story!

I grew up Christian as well. The more I learn about cults and other religions, the harder it is to maintain that Christian belief. I don’t think we are here by accident but I also don’t whatever creator or deity does exist is as small as a human. I think “god” or whatever is bigger than all of this. I hope all the victims heal and can move past their dark times.

I dig ur channel so much,it might actually make me move off grid.,and no media...I'm addicted 😂❤

I studied with the Morman’s for almost a year. Never during that year did we read or study from the King James Bible, or any other version of the Bible! It was always the Book of Morman! I think the Bible is just a front! It’s scary!

Wow very smart and well spoken person great job

As a Christian I agree with you one hundred percent about the love and grace of Jesus.

Love the intro beat 🎧🎵

She showed more compassion for those kids then their own Aunts did. Amazing how genuine she is, but then we look at Bonnie and the other sister, and the only thing I pick up from them is narcissism.

Josh, you should cover the Mormon Stories Podcast episode with Adam Paul Steed. That man went thru a HARROWING experience at the hands of the Mormon church (abused thru scouting) and Jodi. You often talk about parental alienation…this is the worst example of that I have ever seen. I couldn’t watch the whole episode the man was so destroyed by his experience. It would be nice if you could cover it in snippets and add your commentary so it’s more digestible.

I am an atheist, but love … do unto others, great lesson ❤

I was once a temple recommend carrying Mormon. I left in 2017; however, my parents and siblings are still very active and regularly attend the temple. I have major issues with the doctrine, problems with the culture, and frustrations with the leadership. I agree that there are many in the LDS church that can be called extreme. I also agree it is a cult. However, not once has my family ostracized me for leaving the church. They love and support me and have NEVER tried to convince me to return. Most importantly, not one of my Mormon family members would ever support the things Jodi was doing and none of them believe in forcing (or punishing) sin out. If it is about corruption - YES - I believe the leaders are corrupt, the culture is toxic, and the founder was willing to distort religion to give himself permission to take child brides, get power, etc. Secrecy and information control should always be massive red flags. However, it is important to remember that not all members of a the Mormon church are the type of people you are describing.

They’re amazingly articulate even moreso after what they’ve been through. Well done , you don’t know how inspirational you are and how much good even just this podcast has done. I hope so how you watch this n read these comments . Am sorry but I believe you aunt is an extreme psychopath. Like stealthily dangerous . Know that you’re amazing! ❣

AMEN !! KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO !!!!

Very entertaining. You and Tyson make a great team. Well done! Looks like y’all had a great time.

Josh- thank you for discussing the church and Mormonism. You’re the first I’ve heard do that. It needs to be talked about and thank you for using your platform to do that.

“The Book of Mormon” play is hilarious. Everyone should see it. You’ll pee yourself laughing throughout it.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Know this is a little older video but great job as always😊

Love your content Josh!

Salvation is a gift so that no one can boast... No after all you can do.. A properly functioning transparent church should be like a hospital for tbe sinners - completely transparent about "how the sausage is made." Ruby's brother Beau saw Jodi as a client and denounces her & Ruby started out using Jodi as a therapist for Chad in the beginning.

I was raised Christiaan and asked questions all the time. The adults if they didn't know would tell me they needed to research and get back to me. When I was 12 or 13 and studying Egypt I asked my mom how I was to know which god was real, she said she taught me what she believes and gave me the tools I needed but I had to deicide that for myself because faith is personal. She 100% correct faith is a personal choice and not passed down through parents like brown eyes

i found it odd that a lot of the youtube family were mormon.

I agree with you 💯 10 percent.

I believe their 13:37 story!! But…..you can’t sit and rip on the Mormon church!! You don’t know the religion unless you’ve lived it! I have lived it, I am a normal person that has a great Christ believing community! I grew up in Southern California, now have lived in Washington. Outside of Utah Mormons/Arizona whom are very strict and fundamentalists. Stop ripping on a faith you don’t know!!?????

Mind blowing video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Jessi, you are a lovely, beautiful, articulate young person! Im so proud of you for speaking out, I hope you can find happiness and peace for all the rest of your days!!!!

Mormon bishops do not have to disclose abuse . However interestingly..I had a Mormon Bishop who was a teacher and teachers are mandated reporters so he had to report abuse under his teacher hat and not his Mormon bishop hat.

Jessi did report this to the American Fork (UT) police in 2010 (police report has been located) and they did nothing about it. I think UT tv station KUTV did a story on the fact the police didn’t follow up or pass on the report to CPS.

know use watch family vloggers most u talked about on ur channel until one day stumbled across ur channel few mths ago an took turn haven't watch none of them since u opened my eyes an wanna thk u for that so now my youtube is nothin but ghost videos an urs thats it my boys don't watch them anymore either so just wanna thk u again for putting spotlight on it

Ruby franke was worried about content when her kids started school that'd where all of this shit fight started. She was called to the temple when one of her vlogs had some unmormon adds attached. She filmed herself running to the temple. When she left the temple she said she needed to spend more time at the temple. That's when I think she started her work with Jodie Hildebrand.

I never really comment, but I've been following this from the jump and I HAVE to say...... your video had my attention more than ANY I've watched Well, I watched Jesse's full interview and was so jawdroppingly dumbfounded. Both of these videos opened my eyes to so much. Awesome job.... IMO. Edited to add.... Jesse did go to the police one of the times she ran away. It's so sad. And scary.

I worked with a man who left the morman church with his immediate family, his inlaws had his wife and kids followed and they were trying to take the wife and kids back. They decided to cut off all contact with her side because of it. It was creepy for a while that he would leave for work and people from the church would knock on the wife's door trying to get her and the kids back. They would follow her to other lications and approach her. They moved far away to stop this.

"Stuck his hat on with a brick in it" 😂😂 I grew up watching Shari and I even remember E being recorded ever since she was a baby. Once I found your channel and you started covering them, I stopped watching them and I'm so thankful that Ruby and Jodi are in jail now!

I had a hard listening to her video. I came from a time growing up in a Christian church that used to hold prayer meetings to cast out demons. If you had migraine or depression it was a demon that caused it. Laying on of hands ect.. My mom was really into this. We went to conventions with hundreds of people and we would be there all day. This was so hard to grow up in. My mom was abusive on top of it all. Jody reminds me of her. I wasn't abused in that way but my mom could get anyone to believe everything she said. I don't believe in the church or religion but my faith in God still stands.

hey josh, was watching your life and heard that you had gastric sleeve done. i had gastric bypass and dropped weight to 124 and i used to run 10 miles everyday and would run half marathons and 5 ka but i started falling and ended up having to have 3 back surgeries with a fusion and then had to have neck surgery with fusion c4-c7 and do with ra. needless to say because of the medicine i’m on i gained a lot of my weight back

If the news says one day that one ir the other of these monsters has suicided and confessed to working against the wishes of the LDS I won't be surprised. Thank you for continuing to cover this herendous mess.

I had a friend in middle school who was mormon *still is* and her mother had a baby at 17. But she was kinda like this. She wasnt to this extent.

Thank you for sharing what you believe 💙🩵💜

The most important part of this interview, IMO regarding the eight passengers case is that Jessi “confessed” to the same things Ruby is claiming R did plus many more to make the abuse stop. Jodi would tell them “if you just admit ___, this will stop” so she would. It’s very telling in regards to these poor kids and even though I didn’t believe the accusations Ruby made in family court already, I really don’t know and feel as though it’s an explanation as to where it came from. Jessi said Jodi said they had several A’s, was addicted to self pleasuring was an addict etc despite never having sex, not even knowing that self pleasuring was at the time, and had never even had a drop of alcohol let alone drugs. I agree Jessi’s interview is the most important one so far in this case and they are so strong, articulate and I am so glad they were brave enough to talk.