Jordan Peterson ~ Good Predictors Of Having A Personality Disorder 

“Unless you’re not really that ambitious... which is not necessarily a bad thing.” That’s how I feel. I don’t want a high powered job and a big house or fancy car. I want to be healthy, live in a safe clean house, have a car that’s reliable, have good relationships with my family. I want to find contentment and purpose in my work. If it brings in a lot of money, I have more to give. But status and wealth doesn’t equate to happiness.

Unreal that he so unselfishly shares his lectures with everyone. This man is a gift to humanity

"If you're not conscientious you'll never figure out why you don't advance" This is Gold.

Im halfway through my bachelor's degree in psychology. I'd also like to mention I'm a 30 year old father who struggled with addiction for a while, and I've fought for what I have now and i couldn't have done it without this man. I've read many of his books over the years and have listened to countless lectures. Thank you, sir.

It's exhausting being conscientious when nobody around you is.

This man saved my life

What narcissists do is a very bad thing.

If you have an analytic mind (or analytic enough) and are depressed and you listen to Dr. Peterson, you can start to tease apart logically why you are that way and set yourself up a path to not only get out of it, but thrive then thereafter. This isn't just valuable, this is priceless.

I always thought psychology was BS. Until I listened to this man. He has great insight into the human condition, and he cares about others. If you listen to him and put what you learn into practice, it will transform your life.

I went to a private college.... cost a lot of money even thirty years ago. Nothing compared to Peterson.

The great man himself has been touched by anxiety and depression so it just goes to show that no one is infallible to personality disorder.....the thing I love and respect about this man is his courage to be very open and honest about the abnormalities within his character and I'll wager many therapists have been inspired to enter this field due to their own experiences of hardship.

It's nightmare to live as an introvert among overly extroverted people. It feels like life is getting sucked out of me.

I feel like I'm gaining some neurons every time I see Jordan Peterson talking.

Jordan Petersen is one of the greatest minds in Canada ... a country that’s short on free speech and people that truly speak about moral truths and brilliant insights ! Thankyou JP 🍀💕

I was a dumbass who people hung out with to laugh at, after listening to jordan Peterson, i feel much more powerful and people now treat me as a leader rather than a fool, my social life completely changed because of this man. “Articulacy is power” - Jordan B. Peterson

Great little presentation. It has the added attribute of hearing him laugh out loud, which doesn't happen that often. All of his talks are pure gold.

Most people I know don't even have a genuine personality, let alone a disorder, we live amidst an homgenised mass of stunted and immature souls.

Shit, psychology is really cool.

This one hit me. I work for a company where a few of us started at the same time. I have always been very vocal and negative, almost seeing all the things that were wrong so I became less agreeable. A fellow worder always kept quiet and did pretty much everything they asked, he has been promoted and received many extra opportunities. I was never angry at him, but I was definitely jealous to some degree. Now I am somewhat self employed, I earn a fraction of what I did when I was working there, and I see now that even if I had all those opportunities I dont think I would be happy anyway, I always wanted to be free and not have someone else dictate my life. My heart dropped towards the end as I feel he was basically explaining my exact work story, but his last little bit right at the end gave me a little boost that I am not a complete failure in my choices! Thanks Dr!

@2:40 - Fascinating. I don't like to admit that I'm high on Agreeableness, but his description of agreeable people has pegged me. A major lens through which I understand my life is through the relationships I've had through the years. I do it more than anybody I know and I really do see it as a roadmap of the way my life has gone.

predictor 1: has personality predictor 2: has dirty room

I'm an engineer, and I approve this message.

My environment is completely disorganized but my mind is not, my focus is crystal clear, my thoughts perfectly organized and I can routinely see things which make the difference which my organized colleagues don’t. After many years at the top of the tree in my chosen profession I can safely say that there is no correlation between how organized your environment is and how effective you are at what you do. I’m sure there are many others who can vouch for this.

Some terms used: conscientiousness openness = creativity/intelligence extroverted + disagreeable = proclivity to narcissism disagreeable + neurotic = personality disorder extroversion associated with incentive reward extroverts harvest attention agreeableness - empathy, sympathy, compliance, care system agreeable disagreeable conscientious open extroverted introverted neurotic conscientiousness - (can be associated with disgust, guilt, shame) industriousness - able to implement their goals

"If your not conscientious you'll never figure out why you don't advance." Oh shit; that explains a lot of my life.

I liked his point about opportunities not opening up for low-conscientiousness people, and them not being aware of it. I've noticed in college that the high-conscientiousness, high-IQ people tended to stick together in a way, seeking each other out and quietly shunning those who were not quite up to their standards. "What a bunch of snobbish a-holes" was my thought then, but it actually does seem that being conscientious opens doors in the most unexpected of ways. Being conscientious is like increasing the expected value (EV) of living. You might not get what you want immediately, or even at all, but you greatly swing the odds in your favor. And given the (hidden?) uncertainties in this life, that's perhaps all you can really do.

Peterson: “If you’re disagreeable and neurotic, you tend to have a personality disorder” Me: “fuck!”

You Mr. Peterson are absolutely an, amazing, beautiful, astounding person period. Thank you for all you do for every person of humanity!!!

I love how Mr. Peterson avoids being toxic. You can hear it in the things he "fails" to say or hesitates to say. Just watch him carefully. I noticed in the beginning he almost went on a rant but said "Anyway..." instead. Perhaps he didn't want to lose track of the direction of the class.

I did the test. High on Extroversion, Neurotic-ism and Disagreeableness. I am so screwed.

Thank you for making me see that my work ethic was worthwhile - looking back I see how it really did pay off - I am blessed and I was just being me - work hard with integrity 🙏

This type of content is so stimulating to listen to.

This is like the third time I heard him go off on the poor engineers LOL

It’s rare now after 3 years of listening to JP that I hear anything truly new, but that example about secret doors opening for the conscientious people is pretty interesting, don’t think he’s mentioned that in any other lectures

Watched a good amount of his lectures., Nothing comes out of his mouth without a very logical well though out structure , my brother introduced me to Jordan Peterson and I totally respect the analytical process that he goes through before making any statements , would like to meet him in person

I don’t remember how I found you - chicken or egg but you and your beautiful soul of a daughter Mikhaila have brightened up my life! - your lectures should be mainstream - wishing you both (and your loved ones) full health and happiness.. ❤️From London UK

Every one is nuts one way or the other.

I like how he brought up actors and engineers and droped them quickly.

I absolutely love Jordan! Such a clever man.

Have to disagree. It’s my experience. From the workplace. That sponges hire inferior sponges. And being the hard worker keeps you from advancing. Because you would make your superior look bad. I have probably seen people pull this stunt a dozen times. New guy shows up. Shows promise. So all the employees start gossiping. Or turn their heads or backs to them new one. Some will even interrupt conversations and turn around and walk away mid conversation. Anything they can do to stress or destabilize the new person. And then they will go to HR. And management. And start making slanderous accusations. And boom. The status quo is maintained. And the new guy is gone. And they cross their fingers and hope the next will be more agreeable to the clique.

Conscientiousness and productivity = advancement hasn't been true for me in corporate retail! Hard workers stay in their place and don't get offered managerial positions because they're hard to replace. People who get promoted in corporate retail are those who kiss ass & are the most liked by management

It is calming to see that there was a time where he used to look at some notes.

Unless you’re not really that ambitious... which is not necessarily a bad thing.” this is why Dr. Peterson is so good.

The contentious thing is very interesting... I'm a college student, and I'm always explaining to myself and my mother that I want to make more what I called "nerdy" friends... people that care immensely and work hard toward their work or education. I've also noticed the doors that people almost willingly close by not doing a bit of extra work to get noticed, in high school I did not see these things as clearly... but I now often view these situations from the outside as if a check box when others or myself make small decisions that greatly impact our social circles (meeting other contentious people) or general opportunities ( lab positions and scholarships)

Dude… what an excellent communicator and one of the best teachers that has ever lived. Such mentally stimulating content he has to share.

I can relate to what he's saying about open doors.. All my life I've had this 'can do', 'dive into the deep end and then try to figure out how to swim' attitude with regard to my work. All kinds of doors started to open for me to engage in satisfying engineering projects beyond my wildest dreams and I've had no formal schooling. I self educated just in time for much of it and often just seemed to have a natural knack for a lot of it. A lot of the people around me had much higher levels of education than I did, but did not have these opportunities and I found that they were most often the kinds of people that focused more on why they 'couldn't' perform the task. It just seemed logical to me that management is looking for people to say, 'no problem, I'll get it done', than having to deal with people who either whine about how hard it is to do things, state things can't be done, and have to have their hands held all the time.

This man put my life back into my hand.

That last bit starting at 4:32 is sage wisdom, just like everything else, but in particular for me

I'm an introvert and I'm pretty sure I have borderline personality disorder.....I've been at the bottom of just about every hierarchy I've been a part of and can never seem to get my brain to work the way that it needs to, to rise up it....I try to correct for my agreeableness and go to far and people think I'm psychotic (maybe I am a bit) or I let people walk all over me. I can't focus on tasks very well. I have very low energy alot of times because of depression or I have too much and I'm manic....idk what to do.

I think the intriguing part about Personality Disorders is the whole idea that they are essentially impossible to self diagnose. Symptoms tend to overlap, and your perception of yourself will contain a certain bias. I'll admit that i have looked at some of the symptoms of various Personality Disorders and thought: "I have this and that." But it's also very easy to rationalize things and say: "Well, it's probably not that bad. I'm exaggerating." And rationalizing is just something we do as human beings. It's part of that bias of how you perceive yourself. How can you yourself identify what's abnormal behavior when that behavior is normal to you? Even when personalities develop into extremely abnormal behavior. I think our perception of what's normal will also gradually change accordingly. Values change, ethics and morals change, interests and fascinations change. And eventually you yourself will start to see these new changes as normal. What's normal is going to be subjective.

So true about consciousness in a job setting. If you’re good you’ll get an overload of work while the slackers get off easy and are probably paid the same. So you have to figure out if it’s worth it to you. If you’re looking to climb the ladder, it may be, but otherwise you can be taken advantage of with little to no reward. Then again, you may be given the more interesting assignments and that may give you more job satisfaction.

I have known actors who had little self confidence -- they simply loved to act, loved the art of acting the same way a painter loves to paint, a writer writes or dancer loves to dance -- they are all deeply compelled to practice their art, and suffer if they do not. Jordan is the same, in his own way. He is compelled to be who he is, to think and say what he has to say: an iconoclast, jewel and artist of his chosen realm.

I ... love...this...individual!!!!

Opportunities can be denied in a social agreement reached by secret prejudicial consensus. The reasoning for this can be as simple as your birthday, or your parentage, or ethnicity, or the color of your eyes. However, opportunities are often denied out of jealousy to steal the unique material because the victim has not been picked by the approved group and there are no penalties for the group because the group is self administrative.

So valuable...the last minute of this is mind-blowing!

fantastic motivational speaker in every way possible

Amazing ... Another man with knowledge and common sense.

I really appreciate these upload as they go into his academic and psychological teachings, as opposed to his political ones. this stuff is way more interesting

If you are human, that`s a good predictor.

High in agreeableness, openness, and neuroticism. 24 yr old male, always been uncomfortable with my bpd diagnosis.

Extremely conscientious individuals look for other people like them to network and subsequently open doors for those people but inadvertently closed doors on their on their intimate relationships. They are amazing robots to date.

My father was a mechanical engineer. My first husband was a mechanical engineer. My second husband was a mechanical engineer. Peterson is spot on! Work comes first....everything else is out there in a fog. I belive that most engineers are Aspies (autism spectrum)....brilliant in their fields of interest. But, a relationship with them is a nightmare.

the perfect balance of informativeness and humor/entertainment. love it, peterson!

I think that you’re brilliant. Thank you for sharing your lecture and god bless.

I've been excluded from all opportunities for advancement and I'm extremely dilligent in my work, as well as extremely conscientious about my work.

Damn, wtf... he called me out within the first 15 seconds “Disagreeable and neurotic? Personality disorder!”

I've worked with someone who was extrovert but disagreeable/narcissistic, and whilst it did grind a few others the wrong way, he was damn good at his job. Given the line of work, his bluntness and crass nature actually got shit done, which was nice.

Huh, this completely validates my thoughts on the matter. Nice.

Thank you Peterson. Both of my parents are engineers; that's why I feel so misareble. They don't know how to show compassion and love.

Every time I listen to this guy I always feel he has already told me way more than he knows.

I lived with engineers at Queen's University at Kingston for four years. I concur with Dr. Peterson's assessment.

I like these little clips it might help out some one in need

I’m not ambitious. But I do get stuff done. Then people put me forward for praise or advancement. I am uncomfortable with that. I like to get stuff done in the background and only take on what I can handle. I hate being volunteered for being the leader. I hate nagging and bossing others. I want to take care of my piece and have it be done.

My interpersonal skills are.. intertsting, thanks JP

“You expand a whole bunch of energy just coping with the fact that you are surrounded with a whole bunch of chaos” thats not just for a dirty room/office that applies to anything in life that you are trying to pursue or figure out. Clean, organize, and fix any disorder before going out to create if solve problems in the world

Thank for clearly explanation. Especially i appreciate your tone and being non-judgemental

Interesting thing...in college I was voted "most conscientious" by my peers. I know now that I have undiagnosed ADHD. I dropped out of school due to panic attacks associated with fear of success and fear of failure. If only I knew I had ADHD, I could have taken medication and completed school!

JP says in an organization, doors open for hard working diligent people who get things done. Absolutely true, the best advice for getting ahead at work I ever heard. Do the work. Be competent. And you will succeed. Its like a law of the universe.

This may have been the best oral expression my sense of hearing ever experienced

The bit about agreeable people talking about relationships omg that hit home. I’m highly agreeable and get walked over and so i try to not be agreeable but get stressed because I don’t want to offend so basically relationships romantic and work have been a nightmare

Is it uncommon to desire the experience of being evaluated by this brilliant man!?

Been watching you for a while, Doctor. You're awesome, and I'm glad you've helped the public and I understand some fundamental realities that psychologists have discovered about the human psyche. But the more I know about it all, the more I don't want to be a part of it. I don't know the solutions to those problems or my own. You wouldn't give me any opportunities, I know that for sure. I'm disabled with some kind of mental illness that psychiatrists and psychologists have failed to convince me is there. Every psychologist/psychiatrist I've been to has sat in a room with me for twenty minutes and think they have my diagnosis pegged, even though my diagnosis changes depending on the person I'm seeing. As a result, if psychiatrists and psychologists are to be believed, I have ADHD, Manic Depressive Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, Mood Disorder, Asperger's Syndrome, Schizophrenia, Bipolar Type II, Bipolar Type II with Schizoaffective Tendencies, and Borderline Personality Disorder. But I know the truth from watching your videos for probably around a hundred hours or so all together - I was made the lowest status member of every group I've ever been a part of from kindergarten on up and bullied by the teachers, students, parents of the students and everyone in authority. I've been bullied as an adult, and as a result I haven't held a job for more than a year. I get bullied so I act out then I get bullied so I act out. The cycle is self-sustaining. My suicide attempts are in the double digits, and I know that just means they're pleas for help. I have an IQ of 140 and I haven't finished college. I didn't have a father, and my mother was never a disciplinarian. I am wasted and ruined and I have no way back now. I tried over and over to listen to your advice and take up responsibility. But I failed every time to keep that going. It is unsustainable for me. Now, every time I watch one of your videos it brings me crushing depression. But I'm so used to negative emotion now I watch it anyway. I have used my time in isolation to expand my own world view and increase my understanding of psychology and people to find out why, but because of my adoption of so many different conflicting perspectives in the pursuit of knowledge and understanding I lost my identity. I try not to think about it at all anymore and indulge in video games until I can't stay awake anymore, drink as much as money allows and as soon as I move somewhere where it's legal, I'm going to smoke weed every day until I die. I had a bright future once, but it was always ruined by the present. Now my present is shaded by my past. I don't know if you can fix all the problems in the world that made me who I am and what I am, but I hope you do - or someone really fucking smart does - because whatever the reason I was bullied or whatever the reason I reacted to that in the manner I did, I don't want anyone to go through this. I'd rather the human race became extinct than anyone have to go through this. And I know I'm not the only one. I don't know if you'll ever read this, but if you do...I don't know. Just don't be sad and keep going.

thanks for sharing jp.

Great video. Very interesting to skim the surface on the possible multiplications of traits and types and how that can affect outcome, even unwittingly. I've never been that ambitious in my professional self, perhaps more ambitious in late teens and twenties, but I'm ambitious with music. I'm happy to earn a "living wage" per year that provides the opportunity to make music. After an early career of 12 hour shift work in chemical engineering; looking back I can't imagine how I did it.

I’m gonna have to watch this a couple times

Here’s one: 1. Cognitive Dissonance. You say and do different things 2. Restlessness

wow I would love to be in your class i have already learnt so much watching your videos.. keep up the good work Jordon..

Jordan is the best... thank you!

We need those nerdy scientific types, I hope they can find wonderful partners to keep those genetic combinations in the mix.

That moment when you realize you're that guy at work with the doors that magically open because no one else around can get anything done...

So basically having feelings of any sort, so very useful

Everyone should listen this man, the humanity certainly would improve a lot

Introverts know extroverts are vampires who feed off others energy. We introverts can feel it draining. That's why we stay home.

I was diagnosed with Borderline (male). Non of it ever sat correctly especially as I have had friends that have lasted all my life. I struggled with emotional regulation in certain specific circumstances and have struggled with extreme pain with a spinal problem which is triggered bouts of depression. After years of wrestling with my diagnosis it has transpired that I have CPTSD as a result of having a parent with NPD. Working through things and actually coming to terms in my 40s that a) I am actually of some worth b) I aren’t responsible for everyone else’s feelings c) it is important to look after myself as a primary person in my life rather than trying to please desperately for external validation. I’m 42 now and have only been working through this lately. Shedding years of guilt has been most beneficial.

Interesting about the Gaba part. I'd like to hear more.

There’s a caveat about conscientiousness(industriousness) being a rewarding trait in a complex organization. It is not always a guaranteed path up a hierarchy if the inherent culture is one that ‘matters who you know rather than how hard you work’.

I avoid these problems by living alone,attempting to master my own life. People get in the way and stunt my growth.

Jordan Peterson es una mente brillante, lúcido e inspirador. Lo admiro profundamente.

I like to be an assistant to people. I have been a Dr assistant, worked in Nursing homes, been in retail and and worked in munitions. All which gave me joy as I cared about others seeing their needs are met. Even doing the munitions you want to be sure flares work, or bullets are correctly filled with powder, sealed so they can't get wet and so forth. That soldier expects everything to work in war so he will get home. Working retail you want to be sure the customer find what they need or maybe they need help with ideas. I just never wanted to do one thing. I started college in sociology, then medicine. I enjoy my own company.

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