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Joseph Smith's Uncanonized Revelations! Pt.1 w/Stephen Smoot & Brian Passantino 

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In this episode, we dive into the intriguing world of Joseph Smith's revelations with the authors of the newly published book, "Joseph Smith's Uncanonized Revelations," Stephen Smoot and Brian Passantino. Join us as we explore the history of the canonization process of Joseph Smith's revelations and discuss what criteria were used to determine which revelations were deemed worthy of canonization. We also take a closer look at some of the specific uncanonized revelations featured in the book, uncovering how they provide deeper insights into the personality and character of Joseph Smith. Whether you're a seasoned scholar or new to Latter-day Saint history, this conversation promises to offer fascinating perspectives on one of the faith's most pivotal figures. Tune in for a compelling discussion that sheds new light on Joseph Smith and his uncanonized revelations.

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@joshuaerickson8888
@joshuaerickson8888 29 дней назад
The Proclamation on the Family is an excellent document and should certainly be canonized! I have kept a copy glued into my D&C ever since it was released. It’s teachings are more timely now than when it was first released.
@joshuaerickson8888
@joshuaerickson8888 29 дней назад
How about this example for canonization and decanninization: The two revelations, dated October 13, 1882, and April 14, 1883, published in English, were eventually included in the 1888 Swedish edition of the Doctrine and Covenants as sections 137 and 138 respectively. Over the course of the next forty years, these documents-the October 13, 1882, and the revelation and the instructions regarding the Seventies, dated April 14, 1883-were also printed in other European editions of the book, including three German editions (1893, 1903, and 1920), a Danish edition (1900), and a 1928 Swedish edition (this edition omitted the April 14, 1883, revelation but included the instructions to the Seventies and the October 13, 1882, revelation); See L. R. Jacobs, Mormon Non-English Scriptures, Hymnals, and Periodicals 1830-1986 (Ithaca, NY: L. R. Jacobs, 1986). This is footnote 99 from an article called, “John the Revelator”: The Written Revelations of John Taylor, which is part of a larger compilation called, Champion of Liberty: John Taylor.
@ByWayofCommandment
@ByWayofCommandment 27 дней назад
Great references! Thanks, Joshua!
@joshuaerickson8888
@joshuaerickson8888 Месяц назад
Just started listening. I’m excited for this one.
@ByWayofCommandment
@ByWayofCommandment Месяц назад
This was a fun one. We don't get too caught up in the weeds, but hopefully, it'll lead to more conversation on the subject. Their book is great - pretty concise with a number of interesting revelations. We talked about a couple of them in part 2.
@Rudyard_Stripling
@Rudyard_Stripling Месяц назад
So are we going to be able to see some of the uncanonized revelations of Joseph in the future?😃
@ByWayofCommandment
@ByWayofCommandment Месяц назад
We talk about a couple of them in part 2, but their book is much more comprehensive. Of course, most of them can be found in the Joseph Smith Papers as well for anyone who doesn't want to buy the book.
@tuvoca825
@tuvoca825 Месяц назад
Lectures on faith was not reviewed by JS from what I heard... he died first. So there is a mention of the trinity in there that sounds like a scribal error... JS would never have gotten that wrong and that's part of why it was not cannon. It was when he spoke it but errors need to be removed from the scribe. JS didn't have time or it would have been corrected to match the first vision accounts and to match what he said.
@ByWayofCommandment
@ByWayofCommandment Месяц назад
I understand your sentiment. However, this is not correct. Joseph personally commissioned and oversaw the publication of the Lectures on Faith in 1834-35 (9 years before his death). It's understood by historians that Sydney Rigdon and others of the school of the prophets wrote most of the content of the lectures, with Joseph likely writing one of them, personally. The specific lecture that later became misunderstood as possibly teaching some form of the trinity was lecture 5. Ironically, this is the very lecture that was supposedly written by Joseph himself. Of course, with a more careful study of the lecture and Joseph’s own teachings on the matter, it becomes more clear that the lecture isn't teaching the trinity at all. Much has been said on this subject by scholars/historians. I also covered each of the 7 lectures on this channel in case you're interested.
@DerekPayne1791
@DerekPayne1791 Месяц назад
Joseph Smith approved the 1844 printing of the D&C. He taught Section 101 publicly at least 8 times. It remained in the D&C until 1880. The Doctrine of Monogamy, as taught by Joseph throughout his life, was Canon until after Brigham’s death.
@Rudyard_Stripling
@Rudyard_Stripling Месяц назад
Lies
@StompMom5
@StompMom5 Месяц назад
Yes. Brigham started polygamy because he was obsessed with money, power and s*×. The voice of innocence is what came from Joseph and that can be found in the papers as well
@Rudyard_Stripling
@Rudyard_Stripling Месяц назад
@@StompMom5 Umm no, actually God the Father practices polygamy and so does his Father and his.........
@StompMom5
@StompMom5 Месяц назад
​@@Rudyard_StriplingYeah....Brigham Young made that up too along with blood atonement, the priesthood ban and Adam God theory. No where in scripture has it ever said that, only Brigham said it. But most members made him their God so good for you
@dylanwilliams2202
@dylanwilliams2202 Месяц назад
​@@StompMom5It's honestly a bit of a shame to see you fall so low as to deny polygamy and slander Brigham Young like that. Michelle Stone is a liar. There’s too much data from too many parties from Joseph’s inner circle and antagonists that confirm Joseph Smith practiced polygamy and D&C 132 was read to the Nauvoo Council. There are affidavits made by William Law, Jane Law, and Austin Cowles that describe and corroborate key details of D&C 132 on May 4, 1844, published in the Nauvoo Expositor on June 7, 1844. Among the things about D&C 132 verified, William Law recalled it said “this is the law” and to “enter into my law.” matching D&C 132:32-34. Jane Law recalled that it authorized some men to have up to “the number of ten” wives, and that women who did not allow their husbands to have more than one wife would “be under transgression before God” matching D&C 132:61-65. Austin Cowles recalled that the revelation Hyrum Smith read to the High Council taught sealing up to Eternal Life against all sins except the shedding of innocent blood (D&C 132:26) and that David and Solomon had many wives yet in this they sinned not save in the matter of Uriah (D&C 132:38-39). In response to the Expositor Affidavits, both Joseph and Hyrum in the Nauvoo city council confirmed that these statements were not fabrications out of nothing, that indeed there was an authentic revelation received and read to the Nauvoo High Council. They even admitted that it was about polygamy, but they said it was just about polygamy in former days and/or in the afterlife. These minutes were published in the Nauvoo Neighbor on June 19, 1844. William Clayton recorded in his journal that he wrote the original revelation on July 12, 1843 as it was dictated to him by the Prophet: “This A.M, I wrote a Revelation consisting of 10 pages on the order of the priesthood, showing the designs in Moses, Abraham, David and Solomon having many wives and concubines &c. After it was wrote Presidents Joseph and Hyrum presented it and read it to E[mma] who said she did not believe a word of it and appeared very rebellious” Which Joseph Smith’s own journal also says “Wednesday July 12 [1843] Receivd a Revelation in the office in presence of Hyrum & Wm. Clayton.” (Joseph Smith Papers: Journals Volume 3, May 1843-June 1844 page 57) Then one or two days later, Newell K. Whitney requested permission to have a copy made. Joseph C. Kingsbury described the copying process in 1886: ”Bishop Newel K. Whitney handed me the Revelation… the day [after] it was written or the day following and stating what it was asked me to make a copy of it. I did so, and then read my copy of it to Bishop Whitney, who compared it with the original to which he held in his hand while I read to him. When I had finished reading, Bishop Whitney pronounced the copy correct and Hyrum Smith came into the room at the time to fetch the original. Bishop Whitney handed it to him. I will also state that this copy, as also the original are identically the same as published in the present edition [1876] of the Book of Doctrine and Covenants.” Clayton later affirmed that the Kingsbury manuscript was an exact copy: “Towards evening Bishop Newel K. Whitney asked Joseph if he had any objections to his taking a copy of the revelation; Joseph replied that he had not, and handed it to him. It was carefully copied the following day by Joseph C. Kingsbury . . . The copy made by Joseph C. Kingsbury is a true and correct copy of the original in every respect. The copy was carefully preserved by Bishop Whitney.” (Andrew Jenson, “Plural Marriage,” Historical Record 6 (July 1887): 226.) Sidney Rigdon, who was excommunicated from the Church and tried to start his own sect and claiming to be the rightful successor of Joseph Smith, knew very well that Joseph and Hyrum practiced because after the Smith's deaths Sidney Rigdon made statements in his own Newspaper called the Latter Day Saints Messenger & Advocate where he said that they both died because of it, which you can look up yourself. There is also Mary Fielding Smith, the wife of Hyrum Smith, who had she not accepted and entered into plural marriage while Hyrum was alive and had not been taught the principle of sealings for eternity then she certainly would not have agreed to be sealed to Heber C. Kimball and she would not have gone west with the polygamous Brighamites. Even people who were in the RLDS, whose claim of being the true Church was dependent on whether Joseph practiced polygamy or not, even admitted it was practiced. In a meeting of the RLDS First Presidency on May 1, 1865 “The Question arose as to whether Joseph the Martyr taught the Doctrine of polygamy. President [William] Marks said Brother Hyrum came to his place once and told him he did not believe in it and he was going to see Joseph about it and if he had a revelation on the subject he would believe it, and after that Hyrum read a revelation on it in the High Council and He Marks felt it was not true but he saw the High Council received it.” (RLDS First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve meeting, 1 May 1865, RLDS Archives) In 1883, RLDS apostle Zenos Gurley Jr. interviewed Leonard Soby, who confirmed that the Utah affidavits were truthful and also signed an affidavit confirming that D&C 132 was the same revelation that he heard Hyrum Smith read. Zenos Gurley Jr. resigned his apostleship in the RLDS Church in response to Soby’s testimony. Let’s also not forget that all of the women have said they were sealed to Joseph Smith, which you can read about in Brian Hale’s books. You can even see the deeds of the property he gave to some of his wives on the Joseph Smith Papers. The data is overwhelming and to deny it is to deny reality and established historical facts. Your evidence is complete garbage that blatantly manipulates, or more you blatantly or ignorantly lie, about what was said and done to force a false claim that Joseph Smith never practiced polygamy. It's anti historical and only a pseudo intellectual person would make this claim, and I mean that as harshly as possible.
@joyfulsurety
@joyfulsurety Месяц назад
It is sad when members accept the traditions instead of truth. I might actually read the book, but NOT be ause of anything said in this interview.
@jaredvaughan1665
@jaredvaughan1665 Месяц назад
The Family Proclamation had no input from the Relief Society and supports rigid conservative gender roles. And contains words not found in scripture (such as "preside over" as a replacement for "rule over" in Genesis 3:16 that describes a curse of the fall.) It should absolutely not be canonized. In fact, it needs to be revised with the Relief Society's input.
@joshradson2649
@joshradson2649 Месяц назад
PLEASE look at possible DNA evidence of the Book of Mormon in Puerto Rico.
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