preludeF20Bking that's pretty darn good lol about 3000 more than my car will do but yeah when you get into those rpms it doesn't matter about power to me. my car has around 220 and basically tops out at 5500-6000 and it cares so much about tempurature
bad ass that he's revving to 9500 rpm, but with a proper tune he should be able to make the same amount of power at a lower rpm with a much more useable power band.. also depends on his cam profile and compression too..for example my buddy had a type R setup revving to 9k and made 230+ HP ...then he got a re tune by church automotive and made the same power at 79k rpm..much more reliable and efficient..great video and car, just my 2 cents..also idk if I missed it, but if you have crazy torque steer, remove power steering it helps a lot! and moving VTEC to a lower rpm will not always make more power..you want to put VTEC right after peak torque.. people think the lower you put it,the better..not true..
Yeah for K20 usually after a good tune it seems the best rpm for VTEC usually around 4800rpm. Any lower than 4500rpm starts having a negative effect on power band.
Not hard when he has more money than sense and mechanical ability. He's paying a shop to do everything for him. People try and buy their way into scenes every day.
Hes a real driver and goes to the track with it 500hp doesnt get you far at the track with a honda plus cooling issues. 5k into a turbo car wouldnt even last a lap on track this car is a true track car not a lame drag car
9,500 RPM of JDM V-Tech insanity... Orgasmic! To do it justice though, please dial out that torque steer a bit and control that beast. ;o) I know, easier said than done. Love this car.
SleeperHonda. I know with a car like yours, there is no such thing as "finished". That's the fun of it, and also the hell of it. My cheeks involuntarily twitched into a smile when you said, "This car means everything to me." Also when you mentioned the underdog thing and said "I kinda like make'n people upset." No better drug on the planet than seeing that WTF look on someones face who thought their car was fast. God speed brother.
Hey Zygrene, nice video! Just a few things I wanted to mention, the owner talked about "the reinforced rear subframe giving it a better 50/50 weight ratio" at 5:00, wtf did he mean by that? Also, you said it puts only 156 lbs ft of torque to the wheels, you kind of forgot about the gearing there! For wheel torque, you always have to remember to multiply the engine torque by the total gear ratio, that means torque x gear ratio x final drive, so 156 lbs ft x 3.266 x 4.764 = 2427.24 lbs ft in first gear, 1582.98 lbs ft in second gear and so on. Stock NSX NA1 with its longer gearing puts down 210 lbs ft x 3.071 x 4.062 = 2619.62 lbs ft in first, 1473.17 lbs ft in second. So you see, that Del Sol has higher wheel torque than an NSX in second gear, combine with that the lighter weight, narrow tires and fwd layout, and it is no wonder it spins its tires. If you want to reduce torque steer on a FWD car, you have to go for a narrower front track width (use higher insert wheels), which in turn reduces front cornering grip - so that's a compromise you need to find for yourself there.
I guess what he meant then is that weight distribution changed a bit, not that it became 50:50. I guess that's a thing, but are there any hard numbers on subframe weights though? Didn't find anything on the internet about that, only that the 97 VTEC is supposed to weigh 2522 lbs and the S 2277 lbs. I have not driven both kinds of Del Sol, but I doubt that a small difference in weight distribution makes a big difference in straight line stability, there are other factors like bushing health, toe settings, tires, aerodynamic lift and sway bar size which make a noticeable difference.
HolySteel I think your confused about wheel torque. Chassis dynos measure hp and torque at the wheels typically in 4th or 5th gear, whichever one is closest to 1:1 ratio. So for this car if it has 156 wheel tq in 5th for example then we divide 3.266 by .972 (fifth gear ratio) and get 3.36. So 3.36 times 156 is 524 max wheel tq in 1st gear.
Jonathan, you still need to consider final drive ratio, if your engine just had 156 at the wheels with .972 5th ratio, the engine itself would only have ~33 lbs ft of torque, which it doesn't.
Looks like it needs something done with the TPS or TB, maybe even tuning related, my RSX had this issue sometimes to the point of my gas pedal not working, the jerkiness caused me to break motor mounts even. Other than that, sweet car.
Zygrene, did DJ ever got that steering problem (steering likes to wonder) fixed? id like to know if he did because my delsol likes to wonder ALOT just like his lol. Thanks!
220 to the wheels is great for a car that light I love the build but wheels rubbing is unexceptional to me especially with adjustable struts but other than that I'm in love
Amazing car but one thing I would like to say is that this is a K20A from a FD2 Civic Type R which comes with the RRC manifold. I personally own the K20A from the DC5 Integra Type R. It has a different style manifold called the PRC.
Bought one at 201k miles and told the wife when the engine goes I'm gonna swap it. Drove it like a rented mule and finally gave it to a friend at 421k 2 years ago - engine never died. Still on the road btw. Just bought the wife an auto del sol and thinking of the b18c swap for her as a present :)
He spent $30,000 seems way to high swapped my civic for less then $4,000 with k20z1...unless he paid a shop to do all the work even then that's a high price tag.
Similar money went into my K20a2 swapped Sol but as mentioned above this includes full makeover including repaint, wire tuck, s2000 clocks, seats, forged wheels and a dozen of other parts. - all original no fakes.
SleeperHonda I'm not bashing on his build. I can see how he took a different route instead of making it a drag car. Nonetheless it's a sweet ride, looks hella fun and the owner seems like a cool dude. Can't wait to see the nsx though
That steering wheel shaking is just TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! FIX THAT SHIT DUDE....YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF WITH THE LEVEL OF THAT BUILD TO HAVE IT SHAKE LIKE THAT!!!
They dont look awesome straight out the box, def takes a little work. Didnt help that I lost my front lip 2 weeks before this shoot. My car was lookin super stock.. haha..
SleeperHonda my brother had a civic with the d17 (em2 i think...). he puts couple of things like fogs lights and some plastics things over the side and rear windows. His car was nice after couple of mods, like your del sol.
Isn't it sad that the guy didn't even get to drive his own car and just sat back while you cooked his mounts with your shocking pedal work lol you should be passenger man, no good.
-the owner said the guy drives the car good when the guy is terrible at driving it. -i have never seen a car ride so rough (you would have serious back problems daily driving that car) -the k series has a 2 stage vtec. 3000rpm and 6000rpm. -its RPM! (revolutions per minute) not "rpms" (revolutions per minutes)
Robert P and fyi it DOES have 2 stages. I might be wrong on the exact rpm in which it engages, but that's besides the point. it adjusts timing then engages. have you ever driven anything with a k series? you would know this if you have.
Bradley Hall ivtec is not the same as it has nothing to do with oil pressure or cam lobes. I have a jdm k20a 05 integra with ivtec under 2300 RPM it runs on 1 intake valve and 2 exhaust when "ivtec" kicks in it opens up another intake valve to 2 intake 2 exhaust. ivtec is a fuel economy version. this is a type r red top so it has the traditional oil pressure, VTEC solenoid system.
jcwat I think you need to look into it a bit more. I've installed cams and valvetrain in many ivtec heads and the majority runs off additional loabs (vtec loabs) when vtec engages....
jcwat the difference between ivtec and vtec is ivtec has an oil pressure system that allows the cam gears to adjust timing. That system with the addition of vtec is Ivtec
GEAR HEAD 30k into the build. Paint and body work alone can easily be 6k and the wheels and tires another 4500 or more. Also in 2010 k swaps were very expensive.
