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Kane Cornes and David King preview an actioned packed Round 18 with plenty of talking points expected to come out of it. They discuss who they have in the gun, who hasn't justified their contract yet, the situation at the Eagles and more!
0:00 - 4:45 - Sydney Swans
5:24 - 9:22 - Adam Simpson ‪@KhabibTheEagle‬+ the Eagles
9:23 - 12:26 - Richmond Tigers
12:30 - 16:36 - Who hasn't justified their contract?
16:37 - 25:16 - In the gun
25:17 - 37:21 - The Friday Agenda

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6 авг 2024

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@timmartland01
@timmartland01 25 дней назад
Harrison "Two Touch" Petty is just woeful and needs to go for Melbourne. How on Earth could firstly, Adelaide offer two first rounders for him, and secondly, how on Earth did Melbourne turn that down? He is lucky to be a single thrird rounder now, and looks like a guy that has checked out anyway. Amazing how well the forward line looks without him anywhere near the team.
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 25 дней назад
Yeah alright calm down it's just a game.
@helvijssaukants3479
@helvijssaukants3479 25 дней назад
Adelaide never offered two first rounders together, They offered two first rounders separately
@297fihsy
@297fihsy 25 дней назад
As a tiges fan who loves Baker, Bolton and Rioli, Kingy actually swayed me a bit with the hypothetical glut of picks that would come in. Bolton himself is still quite young though so I don’t love the idea of trading him
@jeremyholland4
@jeremyholland4 25 дней назад
I agree the picks sound nice, you'd ideally move most of them to get something like 1, 5 and 10. But I think we need to keep 1 of Bolton, Baker or rioli. You need experience to teach draftees how to play, we've seen pick #1s go to poor teams with little leadership and they flop. So you need experienced stars to teach the future
@darrenbaker6019
@darrenbaker6019 25 дней назад
Brownlow - if you get a week and only one week over the year, you are still eligible. The fact that the player misses a week removes the potential for them to accumulate more votes so that is enough!
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 25 дней назад
OMG can everyone stop trying to change the bloody rules every year and just leave this amazing game as it is.
@kymcha
@kymcha 25 дней назад
Hit the nail on the head. I would go 1 step further and remove suspensions altogether. If someone gets rubbed out for 3 games, then virtually impossible to win the Brownlow anyhow because 0 votes for 3 weeks. I mean it's a self-tuning vote isn't it? What is fair when the Brownlow was invented is not what is fair now. The only thing is what to do about financial sanctions instead of suspensions - maybe a financial sanction could be -1. Punters that moan 'leave the game alone' are stuck in a time warp when dinosaurs wandered around the place.
@cammakarzy
@cammakarzy 25 дней назад
Melbourne fans feel exactly the same way. Verrall and Fullarton deserve a spot wayyyyy more than Petty. We'll happily offload Petty, Schache and Billings for a packet of chips. Won't be surprised if Tomlinson and Fullarton leave, guys deserve better
@TheBinaryWolf
@TheBinaryWolf 25 дней назад
@@cammakarzy Amazing that Schache plays so well in the VFL; but when he enters the AFL, he can't hold a mark or get a kick. At the WB, he just could not cope with pressure. Melbourne fancied itself as being able to help him overcome his fear of getting hurt.
@vigour6786
@vigour6786 25 дней назад
Echoing what someone else said in the comments when I say, footy isn't what it used to be and it may be a silly and obvious statement but we have so many rule changes year over year and even mid year too. AFL needs to come out with the rules pre season, set them and stick to them for the rest of the year, have a review at the off season of what worked and what didn't work well and look at what you can improve. The players look lost half the time when the whistle blows they don't know which way its going and who did what wrong.
@RamoneCricket-fq3ue
@RamoneCricket-fq3ue 25 дней назад
If Heeney polls the most votes, I would love the Brownlow winner to refuse to accept the award. That would cause a ripple that might lead to change.
@vigour6786
@vigour6786 25 дней назад
The players know the criteria for the Brownlow before the season starts, it would be unfair for whoever wins it to give it up because it was expected to be Isaac's. I understand your frustration and I would like change for this too but you can't turn around mid year because the favourite is out of the race.
@user-ig2lj6ih7j
@user-ig2lj6ih7j 25 дней назад
One of the funniest Fridays I’ve watched. Good stuff lads
@JGFormentin
@JGFormentin 25 дней назад
West Coast haven't even started their rebuild yet. Hell they just went and signed Yeo for 3 years. That's doing the opposite. One of the only players with currency.
@rowannicholson8109
@rowannicholson8109 25 дней назад
I always laugh at how long they held onto Naitanui
@spiz649
@spiz649 25 дней назад
The Brownlow does affect the coaches. Imagine the mindset of a player when he comes back from a suspension knowing they can still win vs knowing they’re out of the run. Knowing they can still win but missing a game probably means they come back in hungrier.
@DanaWhiteFromWish
@DanaWhiteFromWish 25 дней назад
Players should never go out there to play for individual accolades. If you have a player on a team who is playing purely for the browlow. I'd argue that player isnt playing for the team.
@thaibulldog6800
@thaibulldog6800 25 дней назад
Cornes is on the money with Beveridges time spent at the Doggies
@slingblade8963
@slingblade8963 25 дней назад
How bout allow the player to be eligible for the Brownlow, but they are penalised -1 vote for each week they're suspended?
@rodneyobrien1262
@rodneyobrien1262 25 дней назад
Player like Barry Hall will end up with negative 5 votes in a particular season.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 25 дней назад
If Charlie Curnow is under-performing what does that say about all the other goal kickers trailing him in the Coleman Medal race. Did you mention any Collingwood players?
@Littleyeti7
@Littleyeti7 25 дней назад
That he gets cheap frees and needs to do more work and get himself actually involved
@TheMemeMachineMatt
@TheMemeMachineMatt 25 дней назад
He's got the most opportunity but is performing the worst considering the opportunity and time he plays forward. If the other forwards had the chances he had, plus the free kicks, they'd be well in front. Ben King and Jake Waterman as an example have missed multiple games this season.
@Littleyeti7
@Littleyeti7 25 дней назад
@@TheMemeMachineMatt the softness of the frees he gets relative to most is the sad part. Him and McKay get gifted the worst frees.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 25 дней назад
@@Littleyeti7 Defenders should go for the ball rather than holding on. In any case, Charlie Curnow does not receive the most free kicks in the league. Defenders should take him on one-on-one in contests. What's wrong? Scared, like Darcy Moore was in last year's loss to the Blues where he panicked all game and gave aways silly free kicks. .
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 25 дней назад
@@Littleyeti7 What a load of nonsense. Show the stats to back up your hatred. Both Charlie and Harry are often double teamed and scragged off the ball. Defenders will get caught sometimes. Beat them one-on-one What's wrong? Scared?
@Power_Prawnstar
@Power_Prawnstar 25 дней назад
Footy is chamging so much, its still good, but its getting to the point where its just getting a bit soft off the ball, on the ball stuff is fine, but let them go, a little bit, its a physical, emotional game
@julianbutterworth2272
@julianbutterworth2272 25 дней назад
Sorry Kingy I’m very confident Plugger got 4 weeks for swinging is arm back and catching Guy McKenna so to say in the past this wouldn’t have earned a suspension is incorrect.
@alisterbacon3157
@alisterbacon3157 25 дней назад
Is gaining separation from a player due another player holding while not in play? Which is pretty much holding the man? Just saying, throughout the whole game there is wrapping around players trying to retard them pretty sure that's same and also a contributor to why the player is trying to get separation?? The afl can make changes on the fly when they want but not when the game needs it?
@anthonystrickland9870
@anthonystrickland9870 25 дней назад
Mr King is a smart man.
@Gamerskull888
@Gamerskull888 25 дней назад
Haha and you’re a liar
@JGFormentin
@JGFormentin 25 дней назад
he's not if he thinks Freo are giving up 4x 1st round picks for Bolton and Baker.
@wce74wce15
@wce74wce15 25 дней назад
🤣
@jaih5529
@jaih5529 25 дней назад
The threshold for suspension is so much lower than it used to be, players get a week for such minor accidents these days. The eligibility for awards needs to move with the times and allow for that reality.
@TheBinaryWolf
@TheBinaryWolf 25 дней назад
Can someone tell me why WB coach Bevo keeps dropping skilled players, and placing rookies in key positions, against seasoned opponents? And why does he have so many players wander off their opponents when they have control of the ball? Crazy. Bevo seems to be doing his best to sink his team to the bottom.
@scotmclaughlin2113
@scotmclaughlin2113 25 дней назад
About 60% of the listed players, and plenty of coaches about 80%
@DanaWhiteFromWish
@DanaWhiteFromWish 25 дней назад
An interesting discussion is, if a player becomes ineligible for a brownlow say in the middle of the year. And umpires know it, why are they giving votes to the player. It makes no sense as an award that umpires give votes to ineligible players.
@brodiebennett2204
@brodiebennett2204 25 дней назад
Rioli for 2 first rounders and Baker and Bolton for 4 first rounders??? Spell please. good players but massive overpays. Bolton for 2 first rounders I could kind of understand
@sportydude9337
@sportydude9337 25 дней назад
Bolton only. Baker can fly to his beloved WCE.
@daveyewart4289
@daveyewart4289 25 дней назад
Looking forward to kingys misnaming bloopers real
@InTheOuter
@InTheOuter 25 дней назад
IF you are going to consider the Brownlow in deciding the guilt of a player, then remove the "fairest" from the award. Otherwise stfu about it and leave it alone.
@Stewf85
@Stewf85 25 дней назад
Corey McKernan was suspended for 1 week for a tripping offence & missed out on tying the brownlow / potentially winning it outright in 96… 12 months later they changed the rules so the penalty would only be a fine. Rules have been tinked with so much, payers cop a week for landing what was considered an effective tackle less than 10 years ago
@InTheOuter
@InTheOuter 25 дней назад
@@Stewf85 Dont worry I know. I am a North supporter. My point is that if Heeny had been someone not in contention, it's a week no questions. Why should the fact that he could potentially win a Brownlow change the way we view his (or anyone elses) offence. If we feel it should be downgraded because he might win, then we are accepting that the "fairest" isn't that important any longer. So in that case, let's get rid of that as a criteria. If not, then we have to not even allow Brownlow contention to enter the conversation. BTW, I am on the fence, but I realise we can't have it both ways.
@morningsky8045
@morningsky8045 25 дней назад
Simple solution, scrap the Brownlow altogether. After all, it's voted for by the most inept, biased individuals in the sport of AFL. Surely the Coaches Award or Players Association Award carry more credibility in a national comp than some ancient tradition from the bygone VFL era.
@scotmclaughlin2113
@scotmclaughlin2113 25 дней назад
Nice idea that cornes
@brendonrobbins6759
@brendonrobbins6759 25 дней назад
If he wasn't in contention for the Brownlow or it was just any run of the mill player, this wouldn't even be a discussion. The fact that he is theoretically polling well for an award should have zero bearing on his guilt or innocence. The AFL told everyone that this action would be graded intentional before the season started, so they all knew. Plus the AFL has about zero consistency so why would you do an action that takes your destiny out of your hands and puts it into those of the tribunal? I'm sure he didn't mean to do it, but in the end he smashed a guy in the face with a clenched fist.....much the same as those players who chose to hip and shoulder but just get it wrong and make contact with the head.
@vigour6786
@vigour6786 25 дней назад
Spot on. I'm assuming the majority of the people upset with the outcome had money on him winning it but you're right, if it was anyone else, no one would care.
@DenisViet
@DenisViet 25 дней назад
How long before Clarkson, Thompson and Hardwick won first of multiple premierships? >5 years!
@DenisViet
@DenisViet 25 дней назад
PS Clarkson's 1st in 3 yrs, 2nd in 8 years
@samata4068
@samata4068 24 дня назад
Coaches win premierships in their first 5 yrs? Kevin Sheedy?
@npd6225
@npd6225 25 дней назад
Kane bringing up a coach is ironic. Especially when he’s not looking around the Port Adelaide region.
@RaviNayyar
@RaviNayyar 25 дней назад
Awesome video from AFL Insight on his bias, right?
@RaviNayyar
@RaviNayyar 25 дней назад
Kane wants Beveridge sacked, but not Hinkley. LOL
@goldboy150
@goldboy150 24 дня назад
It was always thus with suspensions and the Brownlow. Standards change and what got you rubbed out in 95 didn’t get you rubbed out in 82 - that’s life. There’s literally no difference to what’s happening today. Why change the rules now? We gonna give mckernan and grant their brownlows?
@Gamerskull888
@Gamerskull888 25 дней назад
Kigy the hawks hater is back
@protoindoeuropean
@protoindoeuropean 25 дней назад
Hawks, Cats, Dockers.. list goes on
@lukemyszka9292
@lukemyszka9292 25 дней назад
Never stopped being a hawk hater lol
@Power_Prawnstar
@Power_Prawnstar 25 дней назад
Kingy hates football
@Gamerskull888
@Gamerskull888 25 дней назад
She should become a cricket analyst or something
@Power_Prawnstar
@Power_Prawnstar 25 дней назад
@@Gamerskull888 soccer is his go, maybe netball
@tonygalanopoulos693
@tonygalanopoulos693 25 дней назад
Why don’t they have a point system where the threshold is say 1000 points and this would keep Heney in the mix for a Brownlow … Fines are not good … don’t take food off the table of the players who give up so much to make it. Once you have reached ex amount of points then fine ….
@user-fw8vr3pu8e
@user-fw8vr3pu8e 25 дней назад
I think that the point that Everyone misses every time someone is knocked out of Brownlow contention and everyone starts wingeing, is that it’s the best and FAIREST award. Doing something against the rules, to such a degree that they are given a suspension, means that they were not fair enough to win the Brownlow medal. That is the way it has been, that is the way it is. Until someone changes that, we should all settle down and get on with seeing which team wins the flag.
@worker-wf2em
@worker-wf2em 25 дней назад
Brownlow has become irrelevant now anyway. It’s just the award for the midfielder who gets the most touches.
@HappyBonsaiTree-xs6nt
@HappyBonsaiTree-xs6nt 25 дней назад
Am I deaf
@protoindoeuropean
@protoindoeuropean 25 дней назад
What did you say?
@Power_Prawnstar
@Power_Prawnstar 25 дней назад
Huh?
@terrydunn6363
@terrydunn6363 25 дней назад
If the umpires had done their job & stopped that clown from scragging Isaac all game He would not have had to belt him to get him off him. The umpires should be suspended not Isaac.
@bobmuir8352
@bobmuir8352 25 дней назад
biggest thieves in AFL today Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane mega pay packet for dribbling nonsense in their self satisfied smug way
@paulmatters2641
@paulmatters2641 25 дней назад
Putting two suburban solicitors in charge of the rules is a recipe for disaster
@henveee
@henveee 25 дней назад
hang on a minute this is just all fuckin meaningless nonsense
@JimBob-qh8gl
@JimBob-qh8gl 25 дней назад
No one cares about Brownlow, just have another medal for Best on ground with no rules.
@paulmatters2641
@paulmatters2641 25 дней назад
Most of us care enough about it to spell it correctly champ
@tks3022
@tks3022 25 дней назад
Just you mate
@paulmatters2641
@paulmatters2641 25 дней назад
@@tks3022Believe me. I am not your mate. Congratulations for making an inane three word comment without punctuation.
@beauanthony9309
@beauanthony9309 25 дней назад
Biggest Thief - Jared Polec
@lsong8461
@lsong8461 25 дней назад
Yep, Kane spot on with the threshold. Should’ve been done like that years ago. Backwards competition that is honestly dying out in the next 10 years IMO. Other sports taking over massively like basketball and soccer in aus.
@ShoeSnatchinWilly
@ShoeSnatchinWilly 25 дней назад
Neither of those sports are overtaking the AFL, delusional 😂
@paulmatters2641
@paulmatters2641 25 дней назад
@@ShoeSnatchinWilly Crowd average attendance for mens A League peaked in season 2013 with 13,000. This years the average attendance is 8,000. For the women's competition the average attendance 2,200. Joke competition.
@daviddevenny6005
@daviddevenny6005 25 дней назад
Brownlow,meaningless award
@AceRememberTheDude
@AceRememberTheDude 25 дней назад
Lol why does it say @khabibtheeagle
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