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Kent Hovind can't answer a basic question about the gospel 

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In this excerpt, you can see Kent Hovind saying he doesn't know the answer to a simple question about the Christian gospel. Why is this noteworthy? Because he's a self-described Bible teacher and gospel evangelist.
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On Mon. 6-6-2016, Bernie Dehler had an videotaped discussion with Kent Hovind for a TV show in Beaverton Oregon called "Questions for Christians." The program has these segments:
1. Is atheism/evolution a religion? (7:02)
2. Is the gospel nonsense? (19:22)
3. Does a supernatural soul exist? (27:08)
4. Is Genesis literally true? (39:42)
5. Are Catholics REAL Christians? (50:30)
More info on the presenters:
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Bernie is the author of "Modern Science and Philosophy Destroy Christian Theology," which can be found here:
tinyurl.com/lmlqy56 . You can also find him on Twitter here: BernieDehler and on Facebook here: Bernie-Dehler-467276896621775 .
You can see some of the local Portland events where Bernie participates, here (Center for Philosophical Naturalism):
www.meetup.com/Philosophical-N... .
Kent Hovind (Dr. Dino) is a creation science evangelist. He has a brand new book available:
"What On Earth Is About To Happen… For Heaven’s Sake" (details can be found here: tinyurl.com/zzktsh3 ).
Kent Hovind's RU-vid channel is here:
tinyurl.com/o46emrg .
This video is a softer version of a Kent Hovind debate. More interaction, less sermonizing.

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@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 7 лет назад
God sacrificed his son/self to himself to prevent himself from following through with the punishment he himself made up. And for some strange reason people see this as being saved, I see it as being "spared". It's the equivalent of thanking and worshiping an abusive spouse for NOT beating you up.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
God killed himself to appease himself.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 7 лет назад
SecHummer Exactly, but what boggles my mind is that Christians can't see this or won't admit it and try to come up with all kinds of special pleading to get around it, then won't even be honest enough to admit they're using special pleading.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
I was a Christian. It is easy to believe when your family and everyone around you believes it. That's why when atheists reached out to me, I could see a different perspective and make the change to better thinking.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 7 лет назад
My father in law is a Pastor, my wife is involved in her church my children go to a Lutheran school and attend church weekly. My eldest used to attend until he figured out for himself that none of it makes sense, he is now a non believer. Most of my family on both sides are believers, I've asked most of them to explain the redemption system to me and I never get an answer that makes sense. I've been asking the same question on Christian forums, and RU-vid comments sections for years now and get the same response. I've asked my pastor father in law, I've even emailed ministers and other pastors and the same non answers are given.
@TheDJKILLIN
@TheDJKILLIN 7 лет назад
+Crazy prayingmantis delve into pantheism, its the natural from which atheism should take or represent. atheism puts a divide between nature and the universe like a barricade between what is and what isn't. pantheism proposes that the natural processes like the earth, humans, stars or any phenomena which represents existence is the manifestation of the same substance. that there is no difference between self and other or life and death.
@JM-mh1pp
@JM-mh1pp 3 года назад
God-You are not perfect but I am . Humans- Dude blame the designer...oh wait...
@randee4550
@randee4550 2 года назад
Where can I watch the whole thing?
@AsadMalghani
@AsadMalghani 6 лет назад
Why is Kent always holding his phone? Does he know he can put it down?
@johndunham9236
@johndunham9236 7 лет назад
How did he not answer the question?
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
At time :52 he says "I don't know."
@Kj73908
@Kj73908 5 лет назад
@@SecHummer What was the question?
@user-pm6lf4oz1l
@user-pm6lf4oz1l 4 года назад
@@SecHummer Religion - a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practice Do you not admit that you are more religious? How is it considered science when you do not know where matter, gravity, centrifugal force, information, laws, inertia, energy and organization came from? It is completely ironic that most physicists actually agree on the absurdity of evolution as a science. However, with more atheistic and agnostic backgrounds, they admit that the reason they choose to teach evolution instead to begin with is because they believe it is the closest "model" to explain something we cannot directly measure (since none of us were there)- it also being a theory they consider to be void of religion. Accepting evolution despite its lack of direct scientific evidence is a form of faith and religion in and of itself. In the end, the Bible defines faith best: "Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, and the certainty of what you do not see." Hebrews 11:1 Many evolutionists hope that we evolved from various species and that the universe always existed in its basic particle form. We hope that God created the world and made us in the image of Himself because He wanted to have a relationship with us. We hope so much that we believe. That is faith.
@phoenixstormjr.1018
@phoenixstormjr.1018 4 года назад
@@Kj73908 why is the shedding of blood neccessary? My answer is because our blood is sinful. Jesus's isn't. We need his blood to go to heaven.
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 3 года назад
@@phoenixstormjr.1018 why? He could just forgive us and cleanse our blood. Hes supposed to be omnipotent. 😆
@eveharris30
@eveharris30 7 лет назад
He could have made us perfect the first time!
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
Agreed ... additionally ... If God knew everything, including the future, then it doesn't make sense why he would make anything, since he already knows in every detail what will happen. Is God all-knowing or not?
@ColonelEmpire
@ColonelEmpire 4 года назад
He did... He made mankind innocent but perfect (sinless) Creating a being with freewill is the ultimate display of power. Forcing someone to love you is not real love.
@Foroctos
@Foroctos 3 года назад
If he created you perfectly, you’d be an angel. Angels don’t sin. Gid created humans and gave them choice. Knowing what you’ll do is not the same as making yoy do sonething. You know in some movies how someone’s superpower is seeing the future. Basically God can see the future. Just because you can see the future doesn’t mean you’re making the future. The choices people make dictate their future. I how you know what I mean. I struggled with both questions and I’m religious, it took me a couple of years to wrap my head around how God knows what we’ll do, yet we have free choice. I still can’t understand the reasoning behind creating heaven and hell and not keeping us in heaven
@c.g.ryderii2405
@c.g.ryderii2405 2 года назад
@@Foroctos Angels did sin, they fell with lucifer. Blood has been required for sin ever since the fall of man. Adam and Eve tried to hide their sin with leaves, God gave them animal skins to cover them, which required an animal to die. Sacrificial laws were to cover sin until a perfect sacrifice be made. As far as being created perfect, that cannot be logical if one is free to do as they please. If you were not free God would be tyrannical. There will be no one in hell, that does not know God exists. The people in hell will still hate God. We ALL are condemned by our sin, it's by His mercy he hasn't collected payment, which is death, by His mercy giving us space to repent. By His mercy, saves us if we repent of sin and put full trust in His work on the Cross. Much love friend
@c.g.ryderii2405
@c.g.ryderii2405 2 года назад
@@SecHummer It's not logical for God to make us "perfect " if we are free to not be. Creating and making us morally perfect without choice... autonomous robots.
@cathys465
@cathys465 7 лет назад
What "basic" question about the gospel was that?
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
The question was... Why it was "somehow" necessary for this "god" to "sacrifice" himself, TO HIMSELF (Regardless of the character being allegedly IMMORTAL anyway! So, of course not really a sacrifice at all!), in order to supposedly just simply "forgive" others for his *own* mistakes! ...And of course, the guy who devoted his whole life to these stories couldn't answer! Because it is all just poorly-written crazy/nonsense, which shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone =)
@cathys465
@cathys465 7 лет назад
He answered that. Saying God made the rules so He had to obey them too. He also said he didn't know why God made the blood sacrifice rule. But it is still a rule. God never told any of the prophets why He made this universe or why He made life or humankind either. So what? He did it. He created all the laws of nature too, for his own pleasure. But you will never understand unless you repent and ask God to come into you and change your heart. The "natural man" cannot understand the ways of God. Your ways are not his ways and his ways are not your ways.
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
So, no he didn't AT ALL answer the question! No real logic or excuse as to *why* this particular god is apparently just really into violent/gory deaths & human/animal blood sacrifice! Other than just, it appeases him! If he supposedly made up all the rules himself, right? ...But letting some sicko like that into your heart just seems like a really-REALLY bad idea! ...I for one like to be more positive! =) If you admire folks who get a kick outta that of kind sick shit (if they tell you they're a "god" or not!), you're PROBABLY gonna lose out on a lot in life!
@cathys465
@cathys465 7 лет назад
One day you will stand before your Creator in judgement. Among your many other sins, you will have to answer for how you judged Him. We who love Him have our sins covered by his blood that was shed at Calvary. Does the painting even have a right to judge it's painter, or the cabinet it's cabinet maker? If you believe that you, a mere human, represent the acme of all intelligence, then logic would dictate that your act of insulting God is proof of either insanity or perfidy. Either way, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes. Jesus still loves you but if you reject Him and insult Him enough times He will give you over to a hopeless delusion and you will be lost. (Read Romans) Because I love you, I hope that you have not yet reached that point.
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
+Cathy S Diluted threats about an "after life" from creepy death-cults might actually mean something to me, if I believed in creepy death-cults! And of course I'll judge ghoulish psychopaths about being ghoulish psychopaths! I would not be a good person if I didn't! ..That would make me an emotionless sociopath!
@juozapasjurksa1400
@juozapasjurksa1400 3 года назад
C. S. Lewis writes about that in his book Mere Christianity chapter The Lerfect Penitent
@trevercoxworth9592
@trevercoxworth9592 6 лет назад
When the entity decided to forgive all he needed to do it in a natural way. So the entity created himself in time space and matter to pave a natural path into the entity. To die with humans free will and no interference. I struggled with this one and was the ? That started my journey
@conchgorge9387
@conchgorge9387 3 года назад
He made himself to appease himself?
@raulramirez6052
@raulramirez6052 4 года назад
I believe God created everything in seven seconds! Try to prove I’m wrong!
@ScottJackson.
@ScottJackson. 11 месяцев назад
Not Biblical it says in six days
@rlinton123
@rlinton123 5 лет назад
I'm a non believer , not a Christian or evolution guy. he did answer your question. he said he didn't know but that's what his bible says.
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 5 лет назад
Evolution is a fact.
@dksta2346
@dksta2346 6 лет назад
Here is a finite mind dismissing a infinite mind as if its stupid. How glorious these purveyors of sin must feel.
@thechurchstreetpreachingla5275
@thechurchstreetpreachingla5275 3 года назад
Sound like he answered the question to me. There one thing about unbelievers that they can't understand, is a unbeliever is spiritual discerned, a unbeliever is not gonna understand anything Spiritual because of their unbelief. That why you don't understand my friend, prayers for God to open your eyes so you can see the truth. The Bible is only 4th and 5th grade level, but you got to be a believer to understand.
@conchgorge9387
@conchgorge9387 3 года назад
You need to be a believer to understand the Quran does this mean the Quran is true?
@aaaaa8744
@aaaaa8744 7 лет назад
Lol. This is not an easy question. Every theologian / philosopher of Christianity HS pondered this
@Foroctos
@Foroctos 3 года назад
There are more than enough signa that God exists.this world would have been utter chaos if it was created by chance. The fact that there is order to everything proves that there is a system. Systems are not created by randomness. They’re completely opposite
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
Somebody posted an intelligent comment about this, in another place. Re-posting anonymously here, because I think it was informative: "The concept of sacrifice to extrapiate wrong is known in ancient Greek as pharmakos. It is very common in pre Axial religions to actually believe that if one had committed a wrong one way was for the penalty of death to be placed upon a goat, a chicken, etc.. etc.. Hence we have Moses and Abraham having to sacrifice a goat, the ancient Egyptians having to sacrifice a few rams to appease the Gods, Agamemnon having to sacrifice a cow, the Hindu sages performing animal sacrifice to atone for the wrong a person committed etc.. Axial period religions and philosophies challenged this or modified this. Probably first on the scene to call this absurd was in fact the Buddha ( Jainism never outrightly challenged this ) with one of the most poignant scene in the Buddhist doctrine being the Buddha mocking a Brahmin priest sacrificing a goat that if He truly believed the goat will benefit from the sacrifice by going to Heaven and living a celestially blissfuly life and the same act will extrapiate King Bimbisari and all present off their wrongs .. then does the Brahmin priest not love his mother enough to do the honor to send his mother to Heaven and probably cleanse the whole earth off their wrong? ( Not surprisingly the Brahmin group gathered were outraged at this, but the priest did inform the Buddha that the goat will go to Heaven for paying the penalty ) Around the same time, Confucius while upholding custom nearly caused one powerful clan to go to war as he successfully argued that if the son of a Noble believes so greatly in pharmakos than maybe he should sacrifice himself so that his parents and grandparents would benefit massively, and not a slave boy ( China at this point still had outright slavery and still had aristrocracy, something which Confucianism abolished ) In the West, Stoicism rose to challenge the idea of pharmakos by pointing out its absurdity, and the Epicureans questioning how pharmakos makes this ethical. The Isisian Mysteries also rose in challenge of pharmakos calling it barbaric ( note Christianity was not the only contender to be the religion of Europe .. a twist of fate and Europe could be worshiping a pair of Gods known as Aset and Serapis ). Christianity did not challenge pharmakos but rather inverted it, making the due paid by a single God men's death. In the same vein Mithraism inverted it by having Mithra pay for it."
@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer 7 лет назад
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@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer 7 лет назад
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@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer 7 лет назад
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@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer 7 лет назад
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@TheTpointer
@TheTpointer 7 лет назад
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@pollypockets508
@pollypockets508 6 лет назад
How is eternal torture for anyone justice?
@Solomon44444
@Solomon44444 4 года назад
if you don't want it simply REPENT. if you don't than it's justice to have torture. Will goverment forgive if you REPENT? God will.
@ctvtmo
@ctvtmo 5 лет назад
It is shocking that Hovind doesn't know the answer to such a basic question about the Christian faith.
@rickarmstrong3849
@rickarmstrong3849 6 лет назад
That was a AWESOME conversation. Good to see people really discussing and open minded like this. May The Truth Stand up please ! Amen.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 6 лет назад
Rick Armstrong , I agree that the world needs more respectable conversations like this.
@djmore2620
@djmore2620 7 лет назад
Can you answer that question, can anyone.
@ColonelEmpire
@ColonelEmpire 4 года назад
Simple answer: J*U*S*T*I*C*E.
@waveman0
@waveman0 3 года назад
no one can take away your responsibility, the whole concept of vicarious redemption is flawed and immoral. If 'god' killed his only son for your sins, why can't he kill his arch-enemy for your sake?
@zurubandrews8220
@zurubandrews8220 2 года назад
Do you not understand that God created satan , God is not a dictator , he gives us free will to love him or not , he made a way with two choices truth or the lie , he showed us how much he loves us by dying for his children the same as all good father's would die to save his children . You know it all true if you love truth and justice , if you love yourself more than truth you will love the lie and that is how God knows you are not his child , it's that simple , if you are blind to the truth you will take the V because you have not put your faith in Jesus .
@waveman0
@waveman0 2 года назад
@@zurubandrews8220 free will is an illusion and a trick your mind plays on itself. Free will doesn't exist and is completely different to freedom of choice. Yahweh is the very definition of a tyrant, as Christopher Hitchens said a celestial dictator. As far as 'dying for his children' that is a lie, as per your bible god is immortal and cannot die. Even if his avatar (jesus) mortal form died here on earth God still did not die now, did he? He is still allegedly ruling in heaven alive and well, so he did not 'die' at all. Plus jesus would have known (omniscience) beforehand that his 'death' was inconsequential as he would rise again and become god of the universe once more. Plus this whole concept of jesus dying for us is utter bullshit. Yahweh was ultimately responsible for original sin in the first place as he is allegedly omniscient and knew exactly what would happen in the garden beforehand and set up Adam and Eve to fail. Also, how could Adam and Eve have knowledge of good and evil before eating from the fruit? Faith is gullibility, people use faith when they don't have good evidence to back up their case. Lastly, Christianity is not based on justice, rather on vengeance. Hell isn't a just punishment, it is simple vengeance. *there is nothing constructive with hell *you don't come out of hell a better person *hell isn't about discipline correction or redemption sense it never ends The Christian system of vicarious redemption is immoral. Infinite punishment for finite crimes is utterly immoral. The Christian system overall is immoral and is scapegoating (that where that word comes from)
@zurubandrews8220
@zurubandrews8220 2 года назад
@@waveman0 why do you use little god when you refer to Jesus and then Yahwah to big God ? If you understood what i text you would know i understand that God did not die but only the man God Jesus flesh died , Jesus is fully God and fully a man . Are you a Jew ?
@waveman0
@waveman0 2 года назад
@@zurubandrews8220 I am not a jew, my spell checker always wants to capitalize the words god, yahweh and jesus, sometimes I do allow it to do so, sometimes I ignore it. *Jesus is fully God and fully a man* you know that is just bullshit and is completely an unsupported assertion? Plus it is a contradiction and paradox.
@zurubandrews8220
@zurubandrews8220 2 года назад
@@waveman0 have you asked God to show you the truth ? Forget everything you think you know humble yourself and ask the creator to give you the truth !
@zurubandrews8220
@zurubandrews8220 2 года назад
Kent is a member of the body of Christ , each member of the body has a unique job , they all get some knowledge of the truth but not all of it , that is only for God to know it all , how would you demonstrate how much you loved a child , would you die if it would save the life of your child ? God leads by example ! This is why he gave his earthly life up , he is not dead but lives in heaven , you will have to give your self up too , die to self and live for God , walk in the spirit and not in the flesh , look up to heaven and not down to earth , For whosoever will save his life shall lose it ; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's the same shall save it . For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world , and lose his own soul ? Mark 8:35-36
@2028end
@2028end 2 года назад
If you ever want to understand this question, watch the video series "The Salvation Equation" here on RU-vid, by Gabriel Ansley Erb
@isidoreaerys8745
@isidoreaerys8745 2 года назад
Are your aware of the countless ENDs prophesied through the past 20 centuries?
@2028end
@2028end 2 года назад
@@isidoreaerys8745 Absolutely. Have you studied each one? If so, now go and study God's 2028 END message. There is NO COMPARISON!
@isidoreaerys8745
@isidoreaerys8745 2 года назад
@@2028endI’m glad to hear that you’re not one of those gullible fools like those countless failed doomsday cults because you’ve found the correct one. As a testament to your faith you would be wise to Sign all of your financial assets to me in a trust set to take effect January 1st 2029. Think of all the people you could help save by such a public declaration of your faith! Then people would know you weren’t just trying to pull their leg for clicks, like the early Christian martyrs mankind would have evidence that you truly believed.
@randee4550
@randee4550 2 года назад
@@isidoreaerys8745 LMAO! Don't forget me! I want some of those assets too!
@angiepiluso293
@angiepiluso293 4 года назад
Isn't it wonderful that God can punish someone,for doing something they didn't even know was wrong,until AFTER they ate the fruit???
@user-pm6lf4oz1l
@user-pm6lf4oz1l 4 года назад
They knew it was wrong, God said do not eat from that tree.... God gave a choice Genesis:3 3. but God did say, You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.
@Mockturtlesoup1
@Mockturtlesoup1 4 года назад
@@user-pm6lf4oz1l but the serpent said it was okay to eat. How could they possibly know it was wrong to listen to the serpent instead of God? They didn't even know such a concept as "wrong" existed.
@scptime1188
@scptime1188 4 года назад
@@user-pm6lf4oz1l God knew they would eat of the fruit in the first place, so why not just put the fruit elsewhere out of reach? Or not make a beautiful, tempting fruit and a serpent that (he knew) would deceive Adam and Eve, and not let sin occur to begim with? Just a suggestion.
@MrGoogelaar
@MrGoogelaar Год назад
@@user-pm6lf4oz1l The age old stupid story of "god gave a choice" God said you can do as you want but if you don't do as I like or want I will punish and torture you for ever. Where is the damn choice in that? Somewhere in the Bible he supposedly taught how to pray "and lead us not into temptation" yet he planted the damn tree in the middle of the garden right in front of them, how is that not tempting them? To teach somebody to beg you to not lead them into temptation is damn sick. the plot thickens...
@skyline.730
@skyline.730 5 лет назад
Not everyone knows the answers to everything
@ellisonwest7005
@ellisonwest7005 2 года назад
Because the wages of sin is death and no sin can be forgiven with out the shedding of blood. No offense but to say you were a born again Christian for 25 yearsI thought you would’ve known that.
@chrissavage5298
@chrissavage5298 7 лет назад
Kent (and others like him): "But God! Didn't I profess evolution to be wrong? Did I not state countless facts that debunked that religious theory of theirs??? How can you say you never knew me???" It's sad when you see the mass majority who rely on their own works to justify their faith. No Kent, Christianity is not a religion as you state. It does not take blind faith to understand God and His motives. The fact that you state otherwise, proves that you do not know Him, when that is His one most important commandment. If you can't genuinely love Him, yourself, and others as yourself, then your knowledge has no power. When you spew out scientific truths from a place of arrogance and contempt, (and then can't even back up any questions given to you about God and His nature), nobody's going to listen.
@johnolaoluwa
@johnolaoluwa 7 лет назад
Sin brought death into the world. Death means the absence of God or detachment from God. "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." [Leviticus 17:11] The perfect life is in God; God's life cannot suffer or experience death because God cannot sin. The blood of animals was not perfect to become a substitute or give life back to the dying Man. So, God decided to use His own ENDLESS life so as to give life back to Man. It is akin to resuscitation. God gave life back to Man in order to destroy death in him. --------------------------------------------------------------- You can't expect Hovind to know everything and neither do any Jesus follow (or Christian), so it's wrong to make Hovind look bad for not knowing the answer to your question. That is why you have teachers, apostles, evangelists, shepherds and prophets in the Church. It is a FIVE-fold body not one fold.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
RE: ""For the life of the flesh is in the blood" That is incorrect. Dead people also have blood. So the blood is not what brings things to life. Blood is just one component. You also need a heart to circulate the blood, lungs to aerate it, etc. Remove the blood, and you'll have death. But remove just the heart, and you'll also have death.
@johnolaoluwa
@johnolaoluwa 7 лет назад
Sometimes, I wish you can see the fallacy of your own comments and how self-contradictory they are or lacking complete science. It is not just the absence of heart that results in death while the blood is still there. The lungs, the brain, the stomach, the spleen, the liver, the kidneys and the veins are all essential to life without which there will be death. But there ONE common denominator to all these organs - the Blood. The blood has a lot of components to it, but the most important is oxygen. Remove this component, and all the other organs quickly shut down. You claimed that dead people also have blood, you mean that blood still has the most important component in it? Perhaps because you are an engineer you lack basic biology to know that blood in dead people is called deoxygenated blood and such cannot give life to the carrier. There are two types of blood - white and red. These represent completeness from Creation; they represent the Old Testament and the New Testament. Jesus used the fruit of the vine (grapes) to represent His blood, it was deliberate not a mistake, because God planned it from the very beginning. Jesus even referred to Himself as the TRUE Vine, which means the perfect life is complete in Him.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
RE: " Perhaps because you are an engineer you lack basic biology to know that blood in dead people is called deoxygenated blood and such cannot give life to the carrier." At the moment of death, people still have oxygen in their blood. It's not like the oxygen magically disappears then they are dead. You are trying to defend an ancient book written by ignorant people (compared to modern levels of understanding).
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 7 лет назад
Q.Who decided that death is the wage of sin? A. God Q. Who then decided to kill his own son so that they could be spared from that death? A. God Do you see how redundant this is? If you can't then I guess that's the difference between a Christian and a non believer.
@johnolaoluwa
@johnolaoluwa 7 лет назад
SecHummer FYI, I believe in the Bible (KJV) as being 100% correct. If only you could apply that modern levels of understanding appropriately, you will see that the Bible is even MUCH more accurate in comparison. Do you know that quantum physics is proving the Scriptures to be true at all? You claim to be an engineer, do you know about the OBSERVABLE effect in quantum physics? Do you understand its implications? If you understand quantum physics, you will see the reality of God in creation, especially in that Scripture: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light......" [Genesis 1:1-31] Do you understand how quantum physics explains the day and its 24 hours? Or the seasons? Do you understand how quantum physics explains the gap between perception and reality? Do you understand when quantum physics says that "consciousness creates reality"? Do you understand that "... faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." is an explanation of MODERN science through quantum physics? Oh Bernie, you need to wake up, there is so much evidence all around you! Take the clothes you are wearing right now. The materials used in making them are composed of atoms, isn't it? What are atoms? Invisible objects, isn't it? Does that not confirm the Bible truth? Ancient truth! "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." [Hebrews 11:3] I conclude for you with these words: “A fundamental conclusion of the new physics also acknowledges that the observer creates the reality. As observers, we are personally involved with the creation of our own reality. Physicists are being forced to admit that the universe is a “mental” construction. Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. Get over it, and accept the inarguable conclusion. The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual.” - R.C. Henry, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University , “The Mental Universe” ; Nature 436:29,2005) www.collective-evolution.com/2014/11/11/consciousness-creates-reality-physicists-admit-the-universe-is-immaterial-mental-spiritual/
@tubian323
@tubian323 3 месяца назад
"I became a new man" Well that man needs a overhaul!
@gunnerowen3243
@gunnerowen3243 4 года назад
It's not a basic question, it's a stupid question
@coreymagin
@coreymagin 7 лет назад
This is my favorite question to ask. Nicely done. How exactly does blood and death save everyone from their own sin.... So silly it's hard for me to understand why we even waste our time with the debates.
@codyjohnson1773
@codyjohnson1773 7 лет назад
justice must be satisfied
@coreymagin
@coreymagin 7 лет назад
In the realm of what we know to be real (our own lives until we die) that sacrifice doesn't claim to do squat right? So all the claims that our sins are washed away don't take affect until we die correct? Wow thanks lord god for trying to make us believe so seriously unbelievable stuff... If anything (if you are right about jesus) when I die he is going to be like "you secular people are among the brightest, I have deep respect for you because how could I expect intelligent people such as yourself to believe that crazy shit. You may enter the magical kingdom!"
@codyjohnson1773
@codyjohnson1773 7 лет назад
+corey magin it takes effect immediately, the believer is freed from slavery to constant sin and grows over time in the process called sanctification, completes in glorification on the last day at Christ's return just after the unsaved are gathered to be burned.
@pilgrimpater
@pilgrimpater 7 лет назад
Yes we all know too well what the claim is but nobody can say HOW it is supposed to work. There must be a host of better ways of making people accept God but the blood sacrifice of a human? Anyhow, good job those Romans and Priests used their free will to make all of this happen and because of that this event could not have been planned. If Jesus had been set free then what? Well probably a more credible way of getting people to believe.
@johnolaoluwa
@johnolaoluwa 7 лет назад
Understanding will make the difference. That is why God is wise and Man is foolish - he always thinks he is more intelligent than the Creator because of his tiny knowledge, which does not span beyond his environment. Sin brought death into the world. Death means the absence of God or detachment from God. "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." [Leviticus 17:11] The perfect life is in God; God's life cannot suffer or experience death because God cannot sin. The blood of animals was not perfect to become a substitute or give life back to the dying Man. So, God decided to use His own ENDLESS life so as to give life back to Man. It is akin to resuscitation. God gave life back to Man in order to destroy death in him.
@WVhillDweller
@WVhillDweller 6 лет назад
The Gospel is Jesus Christ lived as a man He died on a cross and resurrected from the dead proving He is GOD. Read 1 Corinthians 1-58 kjv and then read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, king James Bible. That is the gospel. Gospel means good news the good news is GOD made a way for all to be saved from hell, without forcing all to go to Heaven. GOD give you the choice, its up to you except His gift or reject His gift His Son John 3:16 kjv
@tommedley5367
@tommedley5367 7 лет назад
I was sucked into watching this by the title, which is deceptive and dishonest, in my opinion. Dr. Hovind answered the question but it was ignored.
@ETericET
@ETericET 7 лет назад
Enlighten us. YOU explain it.
@Mockturtlesoup1
@Mockturtlesoup1 7 лет назад
you consider, "I don't know why" to be answering a question? if, "I don't know" is an answer to a question then literally saying anything is an answer.
@Electronicpoacher1
@Electronicpoacher1 7 лет назад
kent hovind answered this perfectly
@ETericET
@ETericET 7 лет назад
I must have missed it or didn't understand it. Can YOU please explain it to us all.
@WhiskersMctabby
@WhiskersMctabby 7 лет назад
"Take it up with god." Is a cop out. That's the 'god works in mysterious ways' argument and it's completely nonsensical. If that's your definition of an answer, then you're probably not interested in truth at all.
@kristasmith1701
@kristasmith1701 7 лет назад
+ETericET Can you explain how we all got here if there indeed is no God?? You believe in the "big bang"? If so, what then caused the big bang? And how did the stuff that caused the big bang even get there in the first place? How did the SKY even get here in the first place? Some of these are questions that we will simply NEVER know until we meet out Maker! So just accept the fact that.... there's some things that you just don't know, and that you never WILL know.
@ETericET
@ETericET 7 лет назад
Krista Smith Learn some science and then we can talk.
@kingmufasa8929
@kingmufasa8929 3 года назад
That atheist doesn't understand the Atonement
@conchgorge9387
@conchgorge9387 3 года назад
That religious fellow doesn’t understand atheism
@chud8you629
@chud8you629 4 года назад
If there’s a God that is so advanced he created the entire universe he would be so powerful our tiny human brains would not be able to comprehend or explain. A being or energy that powerful wouldn’t waste his time doing all these things mentioned in the Bible. He would be here showing us not wasting his time coming here in human form to die for our sins. If he created us he could’ve created us to be without sin if he wanted. He would never have created Satan or evil. He could snap his fingers and do whatever he wanted. Besides all this why would a being so incredibly powerful create a bunch of bumbling buffoons called humans that destroy the world, lie cheat steal and be so dumb? That would be like us taking the worlds most powerful microscope and finding a colony of bacteria living on the wing of a tiny bug, seeing that they are mating with one another, eating one another and eventually killing the tiny bug they are living on and us becoming enraged and burning our entire backyard to punish them for their sins.
@BluePhoenix_
@BluePhoenix_ 4 года назад
I believe in a giant space fart change my mind!
@phoenixstormjr.1018
@phoenixstormjr.1018 4 года назад
Big bang.
@baytcelu
@baytcelu 6 лет назад
I watch you video because of Dr. Hovind. Hi is good and smart man. God bless you all!
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
baytcelu " Hi is good and smart man." He is very smart when it comes to money matters.
@benshiffman7765
@benshiffman7765 6 лет назад
He’s a buffoon you imbecile
@lovestruck3773
@lovestruck3773 7 лет назад
Christianity lost all possibility when it plagiarized off of past religions >_>
@detective6099
@detective6099 6 лет назад
Lovestruck I love you, I want to say the jesus myth is what you're referring too that has been refuted by many people, and many (non-Christian) scholars rejected that idea that jesus is similar to other pagan gods therefore jesus stories was fabricated. Have a nice day my friend.
@johnkw47
@johnkw47 7 лет назад
seemed like he answered the basic question
@jmac46951
@jmac46951 6 лет назад
His answer was "I don't know" followed by a lot of nonsense to make you forget he doesn't know the answer.
@LarsEelke
@LarsEelke 6 лет назад
You utterly lost the debate and now try to take out a few seconds of tape to 'prove' Kent is wrong. Which is no proof at all. Thats just weak man
@jakerzzz4327
@jakerzzz4327 5 лет назад
It’s really quite simple. God sent His Son down to earth to die for our sins. That is what the Bible says, however anyone can die on a cross. The real question shouldn’t be asking why God sent His son down, it should be focusing on, how Jesus rose from the dead? Now back to the topic, anyone can die on a cross. Yes that’s true, however can anyone rise from the dead?
@mrpo3496
@mrpo3496 5 лет назад
When you read fairy tales you don't focus on how they perform some magic. It is the reason behind it. It is the storyline that you should focus on.
@markbennettjr
@markbennettjr 6 лет назад
Atonement and justice acording to eternal law. Its the nature of balance. BIBLICALLY the penalty for evil is death and hell. For there to be forgiveness someone has to pay the penalty for there to be Justice. It's God's mercy reconciling with God's justice
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
mark Bennett God's mercy my ass. He made us as we are and created a talking snake to tempt Eve. It's bit like kids pulling wings off flies.
@markbennettjr
@markbennettjr 6 лет назад
Myles Lawless have you even read the biblical account ? He did not "make us as we are" , that's the ENTIRE POINT OF GENESIS ! We chose and still choose to rebel against him and follow Satan. Because of this we fell from his perfect image and we and all creation are in a fallen state. Even the "serpent" (a manifestation of Satan) was not "made that way". He chose as you chose to rebel aginst his God . but God in his love has made a way out for man. To be BORN AGAIN, in the Second ADAM , Christ who died on a tree for us and Rose again. Defeating all the works of the fall.
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
mark Bennett That's baloney. Your god is said to be omniscient so he knew in advance what would happen in the garden. This means that Adam and Eve had no choice but t behave as they did. A failure to do so would have proved god is not omniscient You people never think about what you believe.
@markbennettjr
@markbennettjr 6 лет назад
Myles Lawless you are confusing (like Calvinists do) foreknowledge with predestination. They are two entirely different things. giving someone a choice and knowing what they will choose, is not the same as making the choice for them. you must also realize this story fits in the cosmic scheme of progressive revelation. The whole reason God made man after the war in heaven was to show the Angels his wisdom, and redemption. In short...the GOD of the bible knows all, BUT DOES NOT DETERMINE ALL. that's free will. I don't know who presented to you such a warped and twisted concept of Christianity but I assure you sir your assumptions are indeed false
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
mark Bennett You are simply wriggling. I love the assurance with which you speak of god's motives. If heaven was so good why was there a war. ? Why cannot you see that what you are doing is projecting human behaviour onto the what you regard as god's realm ?
@marceloribeirosimoes8959
@marceloribeirosimoes8959 4 года назад
In a way "lighter" ground... The person who thinks he knows more because he received the latest information from people who lived a short time ago is already in trouble. Because what we see most is that grandparents' advice is still the best in just about everything. One thing is the advancement of technology that does not CREATE anything but just finds out. This guy who considers a better way to be "an atheist" asks about "blood". Well, try to get all his blood off him and he'll understand in a split of second... The Scripture teaches us that "the blood is the life of the flesh". Science is still finding how huge that is.
@trentrader3004
@trentrader3004 7 лет назад
Why is the Bernie vs Kent "debates" always Bernie asking Kent questions. Do a debate with u two for proof of evolution or have Kent ask u questions.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
It wasn't a debate; it was a friendly discussion.
@stuartwest8836
@stuartwest8836 6 лет назад
Oh dear, such you sucked us in with a seductive title to your video......KH was simply saying there are things that God lays down that are just beyond us, too big to fully understand.......its called humility.........watch and learn.......
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
stuart west What you call humility I call stupidity.
@stuartwest8836
@stuartwest8836 6 лет назад
Myles Lawless (Good name by the way, but I doubt its your real name) I am not given to mocking people, but in your case I feel compelled to change that; Do you not realise, you are like the puny man who stands between the rails on the traintrack, in the distance can be heard the warning train horn sounding loudly, but you are not put off.......ah, here comes the train, rounding the corner, I would guess you have about ten seconds before the massive train is on you, but you boldly raise your arm in a gesture for it to stop ..........3.......2........1.........you're gone, the train has passed. Emergency Services will be hard pressed to find enough blood and bone to put in the zip-up bag........... I wonder if you get my metaphor?..............all I can do is hope you ponder it............to get you started.........GOD is the train...............
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
stuart west If ir were left to the likes of you with your superstitious beliefs , we would still be riding donkeys.
@stuartwest8836
@stuartwest8836 6 лет назад
don't think so...............The MRI scanner was conceived and designed by a Born Again Christian and the great scientific minds of the enlightenment were..............you've guessed Christian
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
I've heard it all before. Newton believed in god at a time when everyone did, but how about Voltaire and David Hume, for example. It is no co-incidence that the vast majority of scientists living today are atheists.
@sheriobrien3453
@sheriobrien3453 6 лет назад
Simple question to answer just ask Christ Jesus (Loves You)!!
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 5 лет назад
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂😂😂
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 3 года назад
Where can I find him?
@JacobStMary
@JacobStMary 7 лет назад
An act of sin is a rejection of God. It's a rejection of His authority, but more importantly, a rejection of His loving fellowship. It is essentially rebellion toward the Creator who created men in His own image. He did this because He wanted a special loving relationship with this unique creature, "man." However, a loving relationship requires two willing parties. God willfully loves men but men do not reciprocate this love. They reject Him and commit acts of rebellion which we call "sin." By sinning against God men are actively proving that they do not want a relationship with Him who created them and loves them and is kind to them daily. Moreover, there is a Divine standard of righteousness (meaning, 'that which is right'), which we would call the Law of God. This Divine standard of righteousness is based on the nature of who God is! For instance, the commandment, "thou shall not lie" is given because it is a Divine standard of who God is. We learn from it that we as men are liars but God is not, He always tells the truth! This Divine standard (the Law of God) must be upheld. If men fall short of this standard God cannot share fellowship with them and the breaking of this standard requires punishment. This punishment is administered by God because He is the standard and the supreme authority in the universe which He created. The punishment is death. "Death" biblically defined is not termination, finalization, or annihilation but rather "separation." In other words, "to be dead is to be separated from God who is Life!" This is why the Bible can say that men on this earth, even though they still have breath in their lungs, are "dead" in trespasses and sins. God can't just forgive crimes! In the same way, a judge on this earth can't just forgive a crime when it is proven that the person is guilty. That judge would be corrupt and would show no respect for justice! God, however, loves justice and will not corrupt Himself. He will do what is right and it is right that men be punished for their rebellion. This puts God in a precarious situation, He loves men and wants to have a loving relationship with them but they have broken the Law and deserve to be punished and justice must be upheld! How then does God solve this dilemma? This is how He solves it: an innocent man can take the place of guilty men. But this presents another problem because there aren't any innocent men who are not guilty of sin. Therefore, God does something wonderful He becomes a man Himself. A man born of a virgin (this is very important because the nature of sin and rebellion is passed on from the seed of our earthly fathers throughout all generations all the way back to our first father Adam). Jesus, the eternal Son of God (God in the flesh) was conceived by the Holy Spirit and not an earthly man. Therefore, Jesus was, and is, Divine as well as human and perfectly without sin. This perfect innocent man Jesus can now represent guilty rebels and be punished in their place! Why is blood necessary? In the same way that we would send a traitor to a firing squad to be pierced with bullets and have their blood poured out in order to satisfy justice, the Law of God demands the blood of traitors in order to satisfy justice! Traitors rightly deserve death for their crimes. And yet, God the Father decided to pour out the blood of His own innocent Son so that Divine justice can be upheld, rebels can be forgiven of their offenses, and His nature and character remain intact. What great love God has for men that he would do this for us! Friends, this is why Jesus blood is the only means whereby men can be saved from the punishment that is rightfully theirs. Jesus, out of love, endured the righteous demands of the law so that treasonous rebels can go free. Please trust in the blood of Jesus Christ, my friends. He is all we have and all we need!
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
Jacob St Mary If I didn't know better, I'd think you believed all that nonsense. o you are into blood sacrifices just like many other primitive peoples.
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 3 года назад
@@myleslawless6594 Was literally about to say the same thing. God doesn’t exist, and if he did, he can kiss my ass.
@1GODISNOWHERE1
@1GODISNOWHERE1 6 лет назад
Misleading and dishonest video title.
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 6 лет назад
1GODISNOWHERE1 , He literally said he didn't know the answer to more than one basic question.
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
When old men who devoted their whole lives to these crazy stores, can't even answer VERY basic logical questions!? This is when I realized it was all just total bullshit by the age of 6!
@larebear1902
@larebear1902 7 лет назад
oh, so you understand 100% of the universe? nothing can be hidden from you can it?
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
Lare Bear ...By that "logic" you can claim any damn ridiculous thing exists & say, "Can't prove it dosn't! So, might as well worship it!!"...That's nuts.
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
Lare Bear ...By that "logic" you can claim any damn ridiculous thing exists & say, "Can't prove it dosn't! So, might as well worship it!!"...That's nuts.
@larebear1902
@larebear1902 7 лет назад
+schwei it's called logic. it is possible. would this intelligent being communicate? would He be in the histories? Would the servants of His enemies, called the god of this world(age), get all the wealth, power, and control? why do they oppose everything in Scripture? u will suffer when His laws and ordinances are removed ... #Truth
@ubersteigen
@ubersteigen 7 лет назад
Well, you've of course failed to even touch on any actual "logic" there at all, & completely avoided all question... Uhm, You realize that we still had laws long before your insane Bible stories, Right? ..But, better worship Cletus the invisible Panda!! Or else people will "somehow" not realize murder isn't cool! LoL! ...Ridiculous!
@Solomon44444
@Solomon44444 4 года назад
secHummer-you are lying because kent answeard clearly....when he says I DON'T KNOW, he also says that it's a religion and he admits that. He is a BELIVER and he admits that. You are a BELIVER and you don't admit that.
@conchgorge9387
@conchgorge9387 3 года назад
Yeah he believes something to be true, because it is. Believing does not = religion. Do you believe in air travel? If you do you are religious towards air travel! That’s the logic you are using.
@jacklacey5018
@jacklacey5018 6 лет назад
The fool has said in his heart there is no GOD
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
jack lacey What a wonderful source of wisdom the bible is for all who cannot conceive an original thought or idea. What a relief not to have to think, only spout nonsense like a parrot !
@bloodcamarosexmagik4223
@bloodcamarosexmagik4223 6 лет назад
The biggest problems when trying to debate an atheist- them being close minded, and the illusion that man made theoretical "science" has things all figured out. If you rule out the plausibility of God in the first place, which is absolute, than you are closing yourself to any reasonable answer a Creationist may give in the first place. The same goes for the faith that atheists hold in theorems, as if their plausibility makes them fact. A huge double standard that allows no rationale.
@roberthillsjr.3729
@roberthillsjr.3729 5 лет назад
Bernie. Think about it and also look at yourself, inside you. Your thinking.
@mreed712
@mreed712 7 лет назад
Why did an infinite God not explain His every thought and action to simple minded men? Answer: He tried but we're all too stupid to understand it. It's like trying to explain to a toddler why it's not a good idea to put a scorpion in it's mouth!
@SecHummer
@SecHummer 7 лет назад
Michael Reed , But if God knows everything, he knows how stupid we are.
@myleslawless6594
@myleslawless6594 6 лет назад
Michael Reed " Answer: He tried but we're all too stupid to understand it. " According to scripture we are made in god's image and, following your train of thought, god is unable to express himself. He's obviously a Creationist.
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 3 года назад
Because he doesn’t exist lmao
@alisalauzon9291
@alisalauzon9291 6 лет назад
Because satan doomed himself to death... and when we chose to obey him.. instead of God,we came under that same curse.... so Jesus chose to die in our place.
@vgrof2315
@vgrof2315 2 года назад
How silly! Can't we just get over this religion crap and get on with things?
@MrMrlosteruk
@MrMrlosteruk 5 лет назад
I love the way bernie just sighs before trying to respond to ken's non sense
@ScottCopemanGB
@ScottCopemanGB 7 лет назад
It was so GOD would EMPATHIZE with MAN from birth to death and not found wanting to demonstrate FREEWILL !! That is a hard Question(Jerk) as many people have their own 'Magical' understanding's to the point of real division.
@umranafzal2969
@umranafzal2969 5 лет назад
I think personally it's a dumb question. I mean like why did God make the sky blue? I don't know. Oh you can't answer a basic question. Lol
@shun23
@shun23 4 года назад
He did answer, although it was not to the satisfaction of the atheist. I believe harder questions may be asked to theists which they will not be able to answer and answer not by logic or knowledge but out of dogma.
@bryanmueller4542
@bryanmueller4542 5 лет назад
Criminal still selling his snake oil.
@Yeshua_is_Adonai
@Yeshua_is_Adonai Год назад
Giving your life for someone is the ultimate show of love.
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 5 лет назад
Kent is delusional.
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 3 года назад
Not even. I think he’s a snake oil salesmen for the delusional
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 3 года назад
@@kobayashi1194 True true.
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