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Kia Tasman: Key Specs Confirmed & Everything You Need To Know! 

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Important news about the upcoming Kia Tasman pick-up / ute including engines, specs, release date, capability and more.
Chasing Cars contributor Nathan Ponchard shares detailed insights about the new Kia Tasman, a forthcoming Korean-built Ford Ranger and Toyota Hilux rival.
The Tasman will arrive in Australia (and other markets) by mid-2025 as a mid-size pick-up truck powered by a diesel engine using a body-on-frame
4WD chassis.
What do you want to know about the Kia Tasman? Let us know for future content.

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@richard63
@richard63 3 месяца назад
I wish Kia the best of luck, seriously. And I hope they make the shape attractive because no one will buy an ugly vehicle.
@marktanska6331
@marktanska6331 2 месяца назад
I didn't want to say that, as looks are subjective, however, two of us agree.
@dalesmith4985
@dalesmith4985 2 месяца назад
Most new vehicles made now are ugly lol, also too much plastic cladding crap on the outside
@ephrancd1
@ephrancd1 2 месяца назад
No one wants to buy an ugly vehicle yet you still see ugly vehicles on the road 😅
@user-br8rn9cc1u
@user-br8rn9cc1u 2 месяца назад
Like the Triton
@user-br8rn9cc1u
@user-br8rn9cc1u 2 месяца назад
New triton is yuck
@adamclayson5347
@adamclayson5347 3 месяца назад
So good to see Ponch back on screen!
@AussieDazza
@AussieDazza 3 месяца назад
If they wanted to make it as good as they can, they would have put the I6 diesel out of the Genesis .
@strider88888
@strider88888 2 месяца назад
A straight six diesel of that calibre would knock Ford Lion based V6 like the New Generation Ranger, and the latest Amarok out of the park. Korean Build/Quailty Management is probably a question mark. Kia is not Genesis. But Thai built product really varies from the different experiences published on FB sites.
@unclesmate
@unclesmate 2 месяца назад
@@strider88888 Korean build quality is fine lol.
@MrRaitzi
@MrRaitzi 2 месяца назад
After 5 years we know how it holds together
@HotCow-d7b
@HotCow-d7b 2 месяца назад
Great to see Ponch back!
@devvynully
@devvynully 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately none of those artists impressions look any good. I really hope its better looking than that.
@nwb40
@nwb40 2 месяца назад
Great to see Ponch back at it!
@defjam2026
@defjam2026 2 месяца назад
Ponch! We’ve missed you
@martiniwanderi719
@martiniwanderi719 3 месяца назад
What about the engine from the Kia Mojave 3.0l turbo v6?
@nicke1370
@nicke1370 3 месяца назад
I just want the hilux champ. Utes are just open back SUV's these days, not a whole lot of utilitarian properties outside of towing capacities.
@steveoc64
@steveoc64 2 месяца назад
Cmon Kia, show us your Tassie
@Raturidesagain
@Raturidesagain 3 месяца назад
More Ponch!!
@user-qi8ns1fo5d
@user-qi8ns1fo5d 3 месяца назад
I wouldn't mind one BUT no extended cab unfortunately that rules me out but if cost n whats on offer in features i might consider one. interesting if Santa Cruz might be coming to Australia?
@rebeccaw9656
@rebeccaw9656 3 месяца назад
If they can manage 3.5t towing, 1t load and 5* safety rating as they say are their 3 benchmarks… there is definitely a market for that same drivetrain to be brought into the large SUV market as well. As far as I’m concerned, any competition is good competition.
@Richard-sl8we
@Richard-sl8we 3 месяца назад
The 3.3 litre V6 turbo-petrol engine from the Kia Stinger makes sense for a top spec Tasman. The Stinger has been discontinued so that engine and gearbox needs a new home; I'd say Kia can easily upgrade that engine to be more torque focused; I'm guessing 240kw and 620Nm.
@Daniel-dg3np
@Daniel-dg3np 3 месяца назад
They don't need more torque at the flywheel. Due to higher rpm operation petrol engines have shorter gearing so torque AT THE WHEELS is plenty. Especially with the short gearing in such a gearbox as an 8 speed. See the performance of the turbo petrol 4 cylinder VW Ute.
@c-ptsd46
@c-ptsd46 2 месяца назад
Fuel economy wouldn't be great 12 litres per 100 for the stinger from memory.
@philgray1023
@philgray1023 2 месяца назад
I have just been driving some new KIA hire cars in the UK and Europe. We were passed by a large ute on a motorway in the UK. I was quite surprised to see that it had KIA on the tail gate. I just thought it was a standard model that was available already in Europe. It did not have shiny paint. Anyhow, I am totally impressed by the KIA sedans we had. The electronics were so far ahead it makes my old Nissan look like a dinosaur in comparison.
@d3struct0r14
@d3struct0r14 3 месяца назад
Nice
@306champion
@306champion 2 месяца назад
So is there or is there not a manual version?
@kkadkhoda
@kkadkhoda 2 месяца назад
Look nice actually!
@elonmask50
@elonmask50 2 месяца назад
8:34 vertical headlights, that’s critical, you know, for all of our vertical Roads!
@RigiLiquid945
@RigiLiquid945 2 месяца назад
I wish Canada had the same vehicular options as you have. We seem to be stuck doing what the B.S. of A. allows.
@johnholst
@johnholst 3 месяца назад
I'm excited to see Kia going forward with this project. You said a lot of things in the video that weren't correct, though. The GV80 gets neither a 4 cylinder diesel nor the 3.3TT you mentioned. The Palisade doesn't get the DCT from the Sorento/Santa Fe. You should also be aware that this new ute will be heavily based on the Kia Mohave, and that was clear from the ute shown at 6:19 of this video. The Mohave comes with a V6 3L diesel, which would be much more affordable than the inline 6 in the Genesis. Maybe they could use that as well. Can't wait to find out!
@Richard-sl8we
@Richard-sl8we 3 месяца назад
Nothing is clear at this stage. Why is it based on the Kia Mohave; just because a car reviewer shows a picture? Until Kia Australia confirms everything in June/July everybody is speculating.
@johnholst
@johnholst 3 месяца назад
@Richard-sl8we To be sure, there's a lot we don't know yet. But it is definitely based on the body on frame used in the Mohave. In several of these pics, they didn't even bother to change the front end. It's the Mohave grill and lights under the cover. And that's what the Korean media has already found out. We've been waiting a while for this.
@Jtzist
@Jtzist 2 месяца назад
​@johnholst really? Why not be an all new body on frame platform? The HM platform is 14 years old. Actually older than that. That's just how many years since it debuted.
@johnholst
@johnholst 2 месяца назад
@@Jtzist The platform may be from the original Borego, but it has been heavily modified in 4 very serious makeovers. It's pretty much a new chassis compared to that one.
@Jtzist
@Jtzist 2 месяца назад
@johnholst will the greenhouse on the HM(Borrego/Mohave) been due for a redesign after 15 years. It would make a great 4 Runner rival if it ever gets redesigned.
@darrenmorgan5849
@darrenmorgan5849 3 месяца назад
Would be great if they can include a full time 4wd feature that you can also drive on the highway, the same as the Ford/Amarok does in the V6 versions, and also what Mitsubishi offer in their Super Select version. After owning 2 older model Amaroks with this type of driveline, I wouldn’t be going backwards to a 2wd Ute ever again. Just too many advantages and safe as well, even if it slightly increases fuel consumption. Interesting that the engine power output as quoted would only be slight more than the original Amarok 4 cylinder diesel Automatics, and they also had the 8spd auto with constant 4wd, but had no low range. So maybe KIA aren’t too far off the mark with these figures. Wonder if it will come out using Adblue as well for the Australian market like the new Triton, or just run straight diesel. I’m guessing when the new emissions come in it will be with Adblue, which is a pity. Just more stuff to go wrong. 🤔
@eccentric363
@eccentric363 Месяц назад
The main reason the Ford Ranger is so popular is the previous 3.2L engine and now the new V6 turbo. Most of us would want that in any of the brands but they're just not available. It's not that we want a bl**dy turbo four, Mr Journalist.
@stephenchigwidden7504
@stephenchigwidden7504 2 месяца назад
It looks great i just hope they will let you at least option a big engine.
@rossawood5075
@rossawood5075 2 месяца назад
The Kia will need more tha 440nm to compete with Ranger and Hilux, petrol engines won't cut it for towing in Australia or South Africa rural and outback areas. The trans must have a decent torque converter and decent exrenal cooling unlike Rangers woeful cooler. Manual diff lock and excellent Air conditioner. No 18 or 19 inch wheells, 16/17 inch big rubber for outback roads. Standard 3.5 ton hitch and electric brake provision. Jus sayin'
@neilmaverick7035
@neilmaverick7035 2 месяца назад
I recently seen first hand the head bolts pulling out of the engine block through to only 15mm of threads tapped into the Kia engine blocks There is a pandemic of these assortment of vehicles in a holding yard near me all new or near new for warranty. A google search will show you the issues from others
@thepontiff6031
@thepontiff6031 2 месяца назад
Hope they don’t copy the ranger reliability
@GamerGabbar
@GamerGabbar 2 месяца назад
If the inline 6 diesel turbo makes it to a Tasman, I'll be snagging one up for meself
@royr3820
@royr3820 2 месяца назад
I have a musso and that easily carries a pallet. The strange thing I find is everyone asks about what it has and are surprised that their four door utes don’t. Just take the heated steering wheel. Why don’t all the others have this as standard.
@nathanzanow4263
@nathanzanow4263 2 месяца назад
I hope they get the styling right.
@jamesgudgeon4868
@jamesgudgeon4868 2 месяца назад
British Leyland Had a Tasman 6:51
@batmanlives6456
@batmanlives6456 2 месяца назад
And it was a horror!!!
@timbd87
@timbd87 2 месяца назад
The tasman name was announced last year, they just hope we all forgot
@CoroDan
@CoroDan 3 месяца назад
Surely KIA can get more than 5% of Tasman sales out of a plugin hybrid variant. Kia Australia should be pushing for a PHEV ASAP, especially with the new emissions laws.
@doneB830
@doneB830 3 месяца назад
If you look at the Ranger you will see the V6 sells more than the I4 therefore what sells in Australia is bigger engines.
@HammerinWA
@HammerinWA 2 месяца назад
Where’s the battery?
@justinblount4776
@justinblount4776 3 месяца назад
I wanna see it compete in the US,
@bandicoot2016
@bandicoot2016 3 месяца назад
No point benchmarking the best selling ute with a six cylinder TD, then supplying the market with a 4 cylinder........
@chasingcars
@chasingcars 3 месяца назад
There is a point, because the Ranger’s chassis is also one of the best - engine aside
@bandicoot2016
@bandicoot2016 3 месяца назад
@chasingcars Yes, Ford largely copied the key features of the previous Amarok.....
@alfstewart22
@alfstewart22 3 месяца назад
There is a point, Kia wants to make a reliable Ute, unlike Ranger..
@ymml467
@ymml467 3 месяца назад
@@bandicoot2016 If that was the case then why didn't VW just go ahead and do it's own ute rather than take the Ranger platform?
@bandicoot2016
@bandicoot2016 3 месяца назад
It should have, and that's why I didn't buy another Amarok (or thank goodness a Ranger!). Fun fact , the original (and best) Amaroks are still made in South America.
@randalltapp8944
@randalltapp8944 2 месяца назад
when all the name options were rubbed off the blackboard the first letters of each idea spelt TASMAN..... and Boonie was pretty happy!
@vk3act
@vk3act 2 месяца назад
what about the new Australian emission regulations?
@Mopar66VC
@Mopar66VC 2 месяца назад
They regulations were gutted now these vehicles have been reclassified as ‘light commercial’ rather than ‘passenger’ vehicles
@mjg1544
@mjg1544 2 месяца назад
All I want is a midsized Kia pickup based off the new Sorento front end and interior.
@pp-bs5qz
@pp-bs5qz 2 месяца назад
Keeyah, is such a great brand that they need to change their logo regularly so the plebs keep coming back for more......
@jwazftw4200
@jwazftw4200 3 месяца назад
Hi Ponch
@wyatthurts1729
@wyatthurts1729 2 месяца назад
Still a motoring journalist of sorts ? How’s it going/been? Regards Tays
@geoffdennis3209
@geoffdennis3209 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately if they don’t make it a twin turbo it will have too much lag and a dangerous vehicle at intersections etc when crossing traffic, I’m getting rid of my sorento due to this issue
@nicksaveka5078
@nicksaveka5078 2 месяца назад
We need a real Ute again !! Aussie muscle utes were the best
@berniebulk
@berniebulk 2 месяца назад
your singing to the choir mate
@Bigfoot_2109
@Bigfoot_2109 2 месяца назад
I hope they do a 3 litre
@kingwillbisthebest
@kingwillbisthebest 2 месяца назад
I get using the Ranger as a benchmark but why not break the mould and go bigger and better? Why not a substantial leep forward? I mean the series 2 Ranger will come out and improve again. If they just bring out a benchmark car it will feel outdated very quickly eg Triton and D Max
@theimax1
@theimax1 2 месяца назад
Is it electric
@stockey
@stockey 2 месяца назад
I still have my Kia Borrego, which the Tasman frame is based on, great SUV, i have 400,000km on it.
@beaufondfrancois5612
@beaufondfrancois5612 13 дней назад
2.2 TD won’t entice to many Aussie buyers unless it’s out puts are up here the 500nm/150kw.
@nonconformist.
@nonconformist. 2 месяца назад
Mr Rivaro, Mr Rivaro, Mr Rivaro !!!!!
@ScottAyers-
@ScottAyers- Месяц назад
Typing from the U.S. So, this is a Mid-sized truck and I assume it's going to be price competitive to the Ranger. It's going to boil down to cost and reliability and that could be tough for KIA because they are not the most reliable brand and people have mostly gone with KIA based on price. I had a KIA Rio, and I knew it was a short-term car when I bought it used. It served that purpose of being cheap to drive for a short term. I have reservations about buying a new KIA even with the 100K warranty. I looked at the Hyundi Santa Cruz and it looks great BUT, I don't trust the DCT gearbox considering the low milage failures. If KIA uses that Gear box run AWAY!!!
@timkirby5014
@timkirby5014 2 месяца назад
I wish I6 diesel or kia big v8 aluminum 5.0v8 yep
@TheSuperdodgy
@TheSuperdodgy 2 месяца назад
Agree 100%. But with all this emission BS, we'll just get an underpowered soccer Mum car.
@johnhowitt22
@johnhowitt22 3 месяца назад
Here I am wondering if Hyundai will change their mind about the Santa Cruz.
@ashlearhodeskim3112
@ashlearhodeskim3112 3 месяца назад
Email today says it’s called KIA Tasman
@stevenmccloughan
@stevenmccloughan 2 месяца назад
Lets hope they get rid of the ugly plastic above the guards
@tmrt973
@tmrt973 3 месяца назад
Probably gonna be based of the new mohave
@rossawood5075
@rossawood5075 2 месяца назад
Meh, restyle the wheel arches.
@laidtorest387
@laidtorest387 2 месяца назад
They are the worst things I’ve ever seen on a vehicle I think
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 2 месяца назад
There is tough competition there are 9 established brands of utes in Australia getting back to the name Tasmsn you maybe to young to remember the Austin Tasman and Kimberley built my Leyland Australia and they are almost extinct and l remember many years ago Kia brought out a van to take on the Toyota Hiace well the Hiace us still around even many from years ago they are definitely not extinct and l totally forgot about the Kia van but l saw one a couple of months ago and when will be the first recall for the Kia Tasman Kia and Hyundai are famous for there recalls also will they build a Hyundai Kimberley l have seen cars come and go will this ute come and go
@realpatriot5896
@realpatriot5896 2 месяца назад
The Ranger is god but I would definitely say that the Chevy Colorado is better in the right trim and a 4x4 like a Z71 LT Trail Boss or the ZR2!
@jackabubba
@jackabubba 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately, most of the new vehicle hype is just that. It could all fade away when they product turns out to be just another 4cy econobox with a few gimmicks better than the competitors. It will be a one engine fits all. Add to this the threat from the Gov to slug dual cab utes and that guarantees a standard 150Kw 450 - 500Nm powertrain. Just another face in the crowd.
@chrisunderhill8853
@chrisunderhill8853 2 месяца назад
Ranger may be good over there but in the usa the nissan frontier is blowing it up.
@johnvanderheide557
@johnvanderheide557 2 месяца назад
If it doesn’t compare to the torque of the Nissan six 550 than it’s not worth it for towing a caravan.
@anthonybugge5220
@anthonybugge5220 3 месяца назад
Why don't motoring journalists know that the 3.3 stinger motor has never been used in a genesis gv car. They use a 3.5tt
@Richard-sl8we
@Richard-sl8we 3 месяца назад
Correct, well said.
@gdawwg1125
@gdawwg1125 3 месяца назад
It's a different version of the same engine
@marktanska6331
@marktanska6331 2 месяца назад
I can't see any reason to upgrade my 2016 ranger....sorry
@mr.wilson8340
@mr.wilson8340 Месяц назад
KIA will do the same thing that Ford did with the Ranger. Sell it for a few years overseas and then bring it to the US market and it is immediately an old platform.
@rossawood5075
@rossawood5075 2 месяца назад
The last vehicle named Tasman was the early 70's BMC Austin Tasman aka the 'landcrab'.hardly a success really. How about the Kia Katoomba, Kia Katajula, Kia kunnunara, Kia Kalgoolie, Kia Kalbar, Kia Kapunda, Kia Kaputar, Kia Kalangaroo, much better choices for a bush basher I reckon!😊😊😊😊 Jus a suggestion!
@edwinlane9099
@edwinlane9099 2 месяца назад
If they called kia Katoomba ,they would have to call it kiA feral❤😅
@gregj7916
@gregj7916 3 месяца назад
Lots of Kia - Hyundai products with turbocharged engines have 10,000km service intervals, makes me think their durability is questionable....
@rustykilt
@rustykilt 3 месяца назад
I have the 2.2 turbo diesel in my SORENTO and at 200,000 K's it has proved its reliability and performance. I do service it regularly every 15000K's. My son has a RANGER 2018, Which has proved not so reliable though performance is good. I am disappointed that KIA does not offer a bigger diesel for the UTE as HILUX and RANGER will and this is a deciding factor for ute lovers. As for AMAROK, unreliability and running costs are a killer. MITSUBISHI is an underrated product and has a lot to offer.
@Time4Breakfast
@Time4Breakfast 3 месяца назад
The previous generation Hilux 3lt TD has a 10k km service interval and was/is a very reliable powertrain. So 😊.
@Richard-sl8we
@Richard-sl8we 3 месяца назад
Do your research before posting a comment, the 2.2TD engine from Kia/Hyundai in Australia has service intervals of 15k. The 1.6 turbo-petrol engine from Kia/Hyundai has service intervals of 10k.
@user-op7vy5ny4r
@user-op7vy5ny4r 3 месяца назад
this is not theta II 2.0t gasoline from 2014
@berniebulk
@berniebulk 2 месяца назад
????, mate i have always changed engine oil at 8000ks, with 20% moreys oil stabilizer, diffs and gearbox every 12 months regarless of ks, synthetic in gbox,ash with 10% moreys in diffs, drain and change brake fluid at trans service, swap out all hoses and belts the week before winter, ...and get oil sampled at regular intervals......................,either you service your vehicle or you dont.
@simonpollard422
@simonpollard422 2 месяца назад
Looks nice, But 2.2L not going to cut the MUSTARD.
@simranbanga5467
@simranbanga5467 3 месяца назад
Need 3.3 twin turbo petrol stinger engine and long bed option too for people who don’t like diesel as they shit and expensive to maintain
@user-ru2yl8ts9b
@user-ru2yl8ts9b 3 месяца назад
I think KIA should just sell the "KM450" 😂😂
@hantusmostert
@hantusmostert 2 месяца назад
please no ev's (thermal runaway)
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 3 месяца назад
needs smaller cab an 6' box
@rons4778
@rons4778 2 месяца назад
Unless they put a real engine in it I can’t see it dethroning anything
@emergingit
@emergingit 2 месяца назад
Not sure we need another 2.2 Litre 4 cylinder Diesel Engine.? Having said that given Toyota is so slow to change models (10 year Span) the Tasman will steal sales from Toyota but not the V6 market. Toyota's Hilux is a fading and boring car that is now getting killed in high end SUV sales.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 3 месяца назад
Emotional Support Vehicle
@scott22ist
@scott22ist 2 месяца назад
I like my GMC TOO MUCH LOL.
@wyattfamily8997
@wyattfamily8997 2 месяца назад
If it has a 2.2 diesel motor ( turbo or not) it WILL NOT SUCCEED in Australia.
@word1901
@word1901 2 месяца назад
no petrol no interest from me maybe if it gets a petrol fired engine i'll look at one
@trevorwilson2966
@trevorwilson2966 Месяц назад
The ranger killed itself with its wet belt engines.
@bullfrog4826
@bullfrog4826 2 месяца назад
Very careful script, how can u say it hits the benchmark when u havent seen one or driven one.sounds like you just simply believe anything they say, keeps things cosy i guess.
@chasingcars
@chasingcars 2 месяца назад
This comment is hugely misleading. We said that it fits a Europallet in the tray “so it is hitting the benchmark *in those areas* [along with Ranger, Amarok and Triton].” The only other mention of the concept was that Kia is benchmarking the Tasman against the Ranger Raptor and other top utes. You’ve distorted our words well away from their clear meaning, which is that Kia is targeting the best utes, and has matched them - at this stage - solely on the criterion of tray width.
@davidmackenzie5971
@davidmackenzie5971 2 месяца назад
It will be built like a car, no work history
@steeldragon5867
@steeldragon5867 2 месяца назад
How much kia pay you for this
@big98181
@big98181 3 месяца назад
I hope they don't do that matt platisic cladding above the wheel arches. It looks hideous. 🤮
@paddlesmcbean2366
@paddlesmcbean2366 2 месяца назад
An electric Ute will fail before it hits the market.
@Time4Breakfast
@Time4Breakfast 3 месяца назад
Ok. I am going to just say it. I do not like the name. Boring. Insipid. Uninspired. I do really believe that they came up with the name by throwing a dart at a map. Kia Disruptor. Kia Avago. Kia Bushie. Kia Aurora. There are many good choices. Please.🙏. Kia CapAble (as in Tasman)!!😂 and importantly, make it a powerful hybrid.
@TerryHickey-xt4mf
@TerryHickey-xt4mf 3 месяца назад
maybe they wanted the 'Ausi' vibe to come through, even if it is sold in other Asian countries, and we in NZ don't mind either. I hope they go down the ev channel as diesel here in NZ is horrifically priced (and you have to add RUC to that). In other words, my Wildtrak cost me over $200 to fill up, my MG ev costs me $20 to fill up at home, (but can't tow the boat -- bugger! ).
@willlai7880
@willlai7880 2 месяца назад
Ponch looks swole
@smileydave3907
@smileydave3907 2 месяца назад
That engine might sell only because that is what we can get. We all REALLY want the V6 minimum and we want it in the base model. We don't want all the BS bling. Stick the EV crap
@rodrod9236
@rodrod9236 2 месяца назад
THIS DOESNT TELL ME N E THING WHY BOTHER ?????????
@dn059
@dn059 2 месяца назад
Dont see any serious ute owner jumping ship frpm a ranger pr hilux fpr this tbh...
@interceptor7905
@interceptor7905 3 месяца назад
Looks like cardboard box from Australia Post
@LVNITUPM8
@LVNITUPM8 2 месяца назад
Do they want to compete with ranger yet they stuck an underwhelming base engine, yep definitely not going compete haha
@gutmincer2
@gutmincer2 2 месяца назад
the worlds F#####
@paularturi2342
@paularturi2342 Месяц назад
V6 or go home !
@tomohia1428
@tomohia1428 2 месяца назад
Cab and chassis yes no
@user-qy8xl6wo2u
@user-qy8xl6wo2u 2 месяца назад
Another candidate for the LDV, Sang Yong, GWM club. I would have added MG (Mediocre Garbage)...but MG don't make a bespoke ute... it's a rebadged LDV! 😂
@fangie0210
@fangie0210 2 месяца назад
When and are they going make a PROPER ute, not these useless piece of sh*t 4 door things that pretending to be a ute with a tray that you can’t put half a meter of crushed rock because it might scratch the pretty thing???? Where is the one tonner!!!!???
@andrewmoriarty993
@andrewmoriarty993 3 месяца назад
That was boring I got to 6 minutes!
@jimmysollistorsveen4561
@jimmysollistorsveen4561 2 месяца назад
Ranger killer? A fucking original beetle is a ranger killer 😂💀 they are absolute trash 😂 (I have one, my company have over 50+, they are all shite)
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