Legendary Subaru EJ: 1,000-hp Performance, If You Want -- /ENGINEERED

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[PART 1 of 2] Vince "Vince Built" Griffin from Prime Motoring, builder of 1,000-hp Subaru engines, delivers the lowdown on the legendary EJ. What are the advantages of an EJ, how much power can you expect, and more. Contents:
Advantages of the EJ: 1:23
Common Problems (and solutions): 2:12
Top-Mounted Intercoolers, Yes or No?: 4:38
How Much Power Can An EJ Make?: 5:39
Choosing a Downpipe: 7:40
Cats or No Cats?: 8:09
Exhaust Tubing (Choosing Sizes): 8:22
Manual Boost Controller vs Electronic: 8:53
Injectors: 10:04
Common EJ Build Mistakes: 10:44
The Importance of a Tune: 11:18
Block Reinforcement: 12:24
-- Sleeved or Closed Deck?: 13:10
Building for the Performance Application: 14:28
How Long Will it Last?: 15:22
What to Watch Out For: 16:20
How Do You Build For a New Customer?: 18:30
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@billypurdy8581 7 лет назад

Thank god for this video, this man is giving you what has taken me 2 years to gather in information and knowledge in just minutes.

@kurtbrinson3531 7 лет назад

Billy Purdy Absolutely Correct! The guy obviously loves and knows Subaru's at expert level. I'm engineer and IT degrees; became best at areas I loved!

@brandonmyers5340 4 года назад

No kidding

@ezequielrivera9757 2 года назад

We’re are you guys located at and we’re can I contact for a future build by you ! Thanks for all the great advices in this video. Lots Knowledge🙏🏻

@user-nf3oq2ge3g 4 месяца назад

All motors are the same. They each have their own unique flaws but the Subaru motor in 4 cylinder form is actually really strong comparatively. It makes serious torque, and if not tuned for it will break the stock parts

@collarbonecam 7 лет назад

I love hearing from people who actually do everything we spend hours researching to try to figure out what we should do. They know, you listen. Awesome video.

@tdawg719 7 лет назад

Cameron Lancaster yeah I learned something and I love that

@Maskinmester-DK 6 лет назад

"you know" :)

@ArtVandelayOfficial 6 лет назад

I prefer to believe youtube people

@teddygunzbarno2102 5 лет назад

I'm glad my dad give me a Phillips screwdriver when I was 5 and him and my mom woke up and the bottom 2 door hindges and all the car headlights where out of the cars lol thats all I could reach

@TeamDHXS 6 лет назад

A true engine builder, with true knowledge, thank you so much for sharing this! Vince could easily charge a small fortune for this information but shares it for free, the Subie community is blessed!

@Trunksudeska 5 лет назад

i actually didn't even notice what everyone was talking about. I was listening to all the priceless/amazing information he was telling us`

@ActNasty5 5 лет назад

Trunksu RIGHT!!!! Dude seems so normal and this video is great

@EfraKrajo 7 лет назад

As a Subaru enthusiast and after breaking a lot of engines and learning the hard way, I can say this guy know his stuff. A little addition to his comments, always upgrade the oil pump too, to 11mm or 12mm if is possible. Very nice video!

@vincentgriffin9796 7 лет назад

efrain kennedy the newer STi's bring 11mm pumps from the factory. However if I could go back I would definitely add a few things and not say "ya know" as much.. lol

@EfraKrajo 7 лет назад

Vincent Griffin Awesome man... I really didn't even notice the "you know" thing... Because I just wanted to hear and learn your facts! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@justaguynamedmax8207 7 лет назад

Vincent Griffin I didn't notice until I read the comments. Didn't bother me I was so absorbed my wife got mad. I love subies.

@lophilip 7 лет назад

I tried to build my own EJ205.... I made a mistake and choose a turbo that was too big. The turbo lag is way much for my application (time attack). Thanks for your advice, I wished I saw this video earlier. Building engines is fun!

@jdchandeleur1620 7 лет назад

efrain kennedy - DRY-SUMP ! ! ! stop wasting money/time . . .

@RKTheYeet 7 лет назад

Was coming here to see a 1000HP sti, was not disappointed with this at all. Awesome video, a lot of people don't realize what it takes to make that kind of power. They just think you bolt some stuff on your car and go. It would be cool if you guys made a video actually assembling the block as well as the turbo/piping/fuel system etc.

@SkibilityGaming 5 лет назад

Ive learned so much from this video. I would pay this guy money to help me plan out my build any day of the week.

@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit 7 лет назад

SOLID content, CLEARLY knowledgeable, and NOT obnoxious. Thank you, I learned a lot.

@jeremybryant1114 Год назад

I watched this video a few years ago, made mental notes and now my 05 sti that I've had since 2010 has a fully built iAG closed deck short block with built heads fuel system and a cobb access port, capable of 750 tuned for just over 500 at the wheel. Completely reliable daily driver that I love to drive, this content had a huge hand in that so, thank you! Almost forgot about the hypermax HKS coil overs and t-sloted rotors so I can stop quickly.

@SubaruONLY 7 лет назад

🔹 Great video guys, so much good advice packed into one video - LOVE it! You guys are building some awesome engines and putting down some LEGIT numbers! Your shop has clearly spent some serious time committed to developing this platform and raising the bar for the entire Subaru community - THANK YOU!

@BP-fx3qc 5 лет назад

He's back at rallispec now. Prime has become a place for high dollar builds only. Underdogs not welcome with less than 10k to spend , dont get me wrong they do know their stuff and are running a business so they need to make money. Went there once and that's the vibe i got.

@AaronUnknownPerformance 6 лет назад

You know

@olliethebully22 6 лет назад

God that guy is killing me with the"You know"

@doritogoat 6 лет назад

was just going to comment this.. only 9 minutes in lolol

@Bloodklot 6 лет назад

lol that's hilarious. I didn't even notice it till you pointed it out. Now that's all i can hear.

@thermaltake2999 6 лет назад

I know, I know.. .. .. .. ow 😂

@nzagorsky 6 лет назад

Kinda sort of. Yeah. You know.

@apeanutbutterwolf6529 7 лет назад

My problem with Subaru tuners is finding frendly tuner dudes who don't make you feel like your walking on egg shells asking questions or lying to pad their pockets (13 year ASE mechanic, I know when you bs me!). I've been building and tuning cars for a long time (it's my job) and never had to deal with such rude people when asking about limits & whatnot's for need be's.. I might be new to Subaru turbo tuning but come on.. It's the mean dyno shop people who make me want to excell in Subaru peformance so that kind people get fixed up right, never brushed off for wanting to understand something. This dude seems nice, like takes B12 vitamins, chillen in the A/C out of derect sunlight kind of nice. I'd give him my money for that alone. Folks like him seem far n few and that needs to change, I'm sure it won't be long.

@skandinaviskman 7 лет назад

Thanks for the great insights. There are many comments which are useful to consider when upgrading not just a Subaru engine, but petrol engines regardless of make. Thumbs up!

@zackmabry7443 7 лет назад

"not really a big fan of the FA" (pans to RB26 swapped FRS lol)

@vincentgriffin9796 7 лет назад

Zack Mabry this comment actually made me lol

@venom0237 6 лет назад

underrated comment

@sidneydreyer4486 5 лет назад

Busy 2jz swap my Sti hatch , but with my Process west intake on my coffee table I do miss ej 😅 till it breaks again 🤬

@MrBaconstrips13 7 лет назад

Great video vince. I picked up my 11' Wrx a few months ago and im still learning a lot, this video had a lot of great info.

@R0cketRed 4 года назад

Great info, so glad you made this video. A lot of the stuff you mentioned carries over to any 4cyl build trying to go 500whp n up. Thanks for sharing.

@tamagage2206 7 лет назад

I've been working on ej most my life and I love them

@dzcantdrive 7 лет назад

Loved this, thank you for doing this Vincent.

@Vegathlete 4 года назад

Thanks for being so candid and putting it out there. Learned a lot of vital information. Big share.

@MD-pz3cn 7 лет назад

Digging the ChiTown Subies decal at 7:54! Good stuff man, keep it up.

@zacharypietz8849 7 лет назад

I am just about to do a build and needed this bad, lol. Thank you for the info Vincent Griffin!

@TariroNgorosha 7 лет назад

well damn, dude knows his trade.

@wh0reb0t 7 лет назад

ya know

@boost3d831 7 лет назад

Daniel Summerill I don't know, but you know he knows

@bozscaggzz7475 5 лет назад

So much good info here. I've watched it about 5 times now. Watch it again after a couple months.

@ianchong3996 6 лет назад

That was the most educational 20 minutes I've spent on the subject of how to approach tuning my car. Thank you very much.

@sergsrt8 7 лет назад

I love these types of videos!

@tonanon 7 лет назад

Keep doing more video, man. The more you do, the better you will be in front of camera. Best wishes to you sir.

@bajohnson89 7 лет назад

These types of videos are the best ones on your channel imo

@kylebrown499 5 лет назад

This is awesome these guys really give strong advice about Subaru’s and how to either have a fun daily or a fast build the right way thank you and keep up the good work!!!

@John_BP 7 лет назад

I was just fascinated with all the knowledge he was dropping, then I scroll down after the vid and see 50, 000 you know memes. Pay attention you might learn something.

@uglybassterd1 4 года назад

we know!

@sonofagreatsouthernland 3 года назад

Their puny brains can't focus on the core message.

@thedon9670 2 месяца назад

@@sonofagreatsouthernland I know, you know?

@sonofagreatsouthernland 2 месяца назад

@@thedon9670 hhahaaaa if you don't know by now....hahaaa

@robsee229 7 лет назад

More of this, real tech, no bull.

@stevey8014 4 года назад

One of the easiest to understand, informative videos I’ve watched. Thanks The Drive 👍

@djstatyk1540 6 лет назад

Just got off the phone with these guys. I'm giving it an ample 6 months before I'm finally ready for this build. Thank you for your time, guys.

@willclark6607 7 лет назад

please do this with other engines

@xampx2k7 7 лет назад

Like some good ones maybe

@liams1854 7 лет назад

4g63

@nicoxis 7 лет назад

Liam S: Jafromobile would be the men for that

@KDD8 7 лет назад

Turn up the god damn brightness

@shs646 6 лет назад

Uhhh he's a subie guy and there's only one real platform so which other engines ?

@seabear305 7 лет назад

Love this video thanks Vince

@vincentgriffin9796 7 лет назад

Sebastian Reyes thanks for the kind words man 👍🏼

@boost3d831 7 лет назад

Great video, you guys should make more like this on different platforms... is always great to hear people who have loads of experience share what they've learnt over the years

@Turco949 5 лет назад

some of this knowledge is over my head but I still appreciate the fact that you took your time to share it candidly so kudos to you. Even if 90% smack-talk, no one will remember their words but the 10% who influenced and inspired by your video will probably never forget you and your words.

@CDAY0219 6 лет назад

Highly informative, what an awesome video. Thank you for the knowledge.

@bluebird8004 7 лет назад

Great vid. I work on EJ's everyday and this guy knows what he's talking about. Thanks for the upload

@not-google-plus4435 7 лет назад

Much more insight than your typical mechanic interview TY

@agarcia020293 5 лет назад

That was tight ya know. Enjoyed this very much

@_jdmjunkie 5 лет назад

Came here for Subaru content but wasn't expecting those R33's!

@reynaldo1209 7 лет назад

I believe ignorant drivers are the #1 reason Subarus break 😕

@kurtbrinson3531 7 лет назад

Cirilo Ocon Don't break if you know how maintain them correctly for your usage & application

@invertedv12powerhouse77 7 лет назад

My gaskets havent been replaced since 2010 in my 2004 impreza lel

@KrustyQuad 6 лет назад

Or maybe because the EJ25 is a weak motor in Stock form... seems like subaru is pushing the little stock turbo and fuel system from factory... That's pretty wild that the factory tune is unable to add enough fuel to compensate for an aftermarket intake...

@conchobar 5 лет назад

2 exhaust valves dropped at 100K on 100% stock car ($4500 to repair at dealer).

@DailyDriver. 5 лет назад

Cirilo Ocon truth!

@thomaswilson818 5 лет назад

Awesome video- still going over and over again!

@anthonym1950 5 лет назад

This was an incredibly informative video. Thank you Vince and since your local I’ll definitely look into coming to see your guys in person.

@BP-fx3qc 5 лет назад

He's back at rallispec now building engines there, i finished a motor with one of his bottom ends not too long ago

@oates76 7 лет назад

Fantastic video, thanks for sharing all your experience Vince. New to the STI world, so I definitely learned a lot.

@pavankumar06and06 7 лет назад

Great video👍👍👍

@MyRetroJourney 7 лет назад

Nice video you know, I really enjoyed watching it you know. Keep the good stuff up you know.

@js2828-o6u 5 лет назад

Amazing information man! Definitely cleared up a lot of questions I have had about different builds and applications. Thanks

@themechanic6117 7 лет назад

I can tell you're not used to being on camera but I'm sure you know your stuff.enjoyed the video Vince. Thanks

@themechanic6117 6 лет назад

Justin Boss 😂

@shs646 6 лет назад

The mech a nic I can tell you are a goof.

@themechanic6117 6 лет назад

Boosted Beast 😂

@TurboDirectSA 6 лет назад

you know..... i agree --- you know..... said it about 300 times. Good info though except the lag for a long pipe ...... lol

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@johnqiu1659 7 лет назад

But can it outrun an ae86 down mount Akina?

@reinier7865 7 лет назад

Anatoli Ashgenazi better chance of him giving birth to barbed wire sideways

@recnepselyp 7 лет назад

Anatoli Ashgenazi No, but Bunta can in his STI.

@ittotaq 7 лет назад

still a 207 which is miles better than the 25 lol

@TheRguru1 7 лет назад

I mean a stock 22b already did ;)

@phantommedia9964 7 лет назад

that wasn't a 22b, it was a Type R Version V

@johnflave 4 года назад

@vincebuilt thanks for passing on the knowledge, so good to actually get to see you talk shop!

@wrapdump 6 лет назад

This guy's knowledge and ability to articulate points make this a pleasure to watch. Love to have a video of him talking us through an engine build, or speccing process.

@yardiewrx 7 лет назад

great informative vid.

@rhysdmartin 7 лет назад

Thanks for sharing your expert knowledge Vince. I found it all very interesting. Cheers from Australia 🍻

@luffa04 4 года назад

Thanks for that - very interesting. And nice how you provided a considered response to each question.

@Reverie100 7 лет назад

Can't wait for part 2

@PeopleOfCasinos 7 лет назад

Loved your video Vincent Griffin! Awesome for you to share your knowledge. Everything you said was dead on with how a EJ motor should be handled, built, maintained. Thanks man.

@lRecoilzZ 6 лет назад

"You know"

@electrifiedfunk 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge man. Skilled at your craft, it's clear - but with a refreshing mix of humility. True master.

@kurtbrinson3531 7 лет назад

So glad I found this site! Owned six different Subaru's since 1999 and Love their engineering and desire for excellence. While other manufacturers make dozens of engine designs Subaru takes one and keeps making it better!

@monkeypainter808 7 лет назад

Dude, they're totally reliable if you just, you know, change everything...

@j.s.3414 5 лет назад

The reason big power OEM cars last is because they come from the factory with these parts....but you're also paying $60-120grand. So yeah, upgrade everything to make that 450hp at 28psi last...this isn't shocking news.

@shitilearnedonyoutub 4 года назад

If you don't overdo it with the tune will factory parts this car will last you 4ever. It's a budget sportscar, what do you fuckers expect?

@Johnny-tq9no 4 года назад

@@shitilearnedonyoutub it's a rally car it's not meant to have tons of power

@flampy1 3 года назад

@@Johnny-tq9no real rally cars have 500hp

@Johnny-tq9no 3 года назад

@@flampy1 lol no

@AjackLee4 4 года назад

All y'all commenting about "Ya know" let's see you build a 1000HP car, letalone a Subie, hell I bet alot of you don't even have a cool car.

@kodypierce3507 4 года назад

Let alone a good percentage probably dont even know how to change a tire.

@uglybassterd1 4 года назад

you say that like....you know....like you know!

@crimescene25 3 года назад

Problem with this build is it's nowhere to be found.....aka it has blown up, and he doesnt want anyone to know....

@kevincolton5114 5 лет назад

Thank you for this free, really educated info on my favorite engine! Maybe some day I'll get crazy with it.

@tonyregalado7281 7 лет назад

Great interview! Thx, Vince!

@Hildyballz 7 лет назад

I didn't know, but after exactly 140 'you know's, I finally know. Haha na loved it, dude knows his shit. I actually counted though.

@erwinbalog5907 7 лет назад

Did you count the you knows because you don't understand anything he said? He knows his stuff. You should listen, you might learn something.

@jaysheeze 7 лет назад

Carlos bro Your comment unfortunately is not valid as you still took time to count how many times he was saying a nervous "you know"...

@Hildyballz 7 лет назад

You have to learn how to laugh at yourself sometimes lads. This dude knows a shit ton and mad respect!

@Hildyballz 7 лет назад

OK, I apologise. Didn't mean for the disrespect.

@chrisogrady28 7 лет назад

Carlos bro I was looking for a count, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was wondering

@maxxjettfilms6322 7 лет назад

Watching this video brings me back to when I built my ej257 for my bugeye, good times and still running strong👍

@juanticimo 7 лет назад

Great video, answered a lot of questions, and created quite a few more. thanks!

@7795Dakota 2 года назад

I just got my first subaru. 2020 sti. I love the car and plan on building once my warranty is up. I've learned alot in a short amount of time from guys like this. Awesome video!

@rocketsmall4547 2 года назад

so is not fast enough?

@ArmstrongRacing 7 лет назад

Solid advice man. I've been a Subaru tech for 8 years oem and aftermarket and you are 100% correct. Racing isn't cheap, and builds don't last forever

@Random91g 7 лет назад

Where this shop at so i can take my wrx to worked on?

@Random91g 7 лет назад

Austin's Adventures where in NJ cuz i live in NJ lol

@andrew_conner 7 лет назад

Wallington, NJ

@Random91g 7 лет назад

Subiekid6 thank you

@jerzx648 7 лет назад

They do amazing work in a good amount of time

@arjuhama 7 лет назад

racinggamer91 night rider You lucky man.

@CallagunWindsor 7 лет назад

Some really good info in there, thanks for sharing some advice with us all. Will definitely consider an Air/Oil Seperator sooner rather than later now. Great video

@ethanwood5287 5 лет назад

Great video, lots of knowledge here for those that aren't as familiar. Keep it going!

@Brandenburg008 7 лет назад

Great vid. I follow Vince on Instagram. Good stuff. I wish we could have seen your opinion on EL and UEL headers. Still, great material and thanks for making the video.

@FXIIBeaver 7 лет назад

Brandenburg008 equal length always better. Never could understand why the Subaru crowd is the only crowd who can't understand this.

@tschaderdstrom2145 7 лет назад

From what I've seen on the forums, people get it, but the sound is more important to some people than the extra hp.

@Brandenburg008 7 лет назад

I think a lot of Subaru owners put faith in the countless hours of R&D that went into designing and making the factory setup, which obviously include the UEL. At least, that would be my guess. Again, I wish I would have seen Vince's opinion on it. EL makes complete sense for performance, just curious to hear his opinion.

@venom0237 6 лет назад

when you're racing or using your car for a specific application, obviously you want performance (EL). But, I wouldn't trade the massive smile that my car gives me every morning for anything. So if it's a daily I usually say keep the UEL, keep the character.

@2strokeFORever 7 лет назад

Cool video made me appreciate the EJ more. One question that should of been asked is how much power can the stock block handle?

@mattsmith889 7 лет назад

2strokeFORever From the video I would assume that was his point in saying people start having issues around the 550 hp mark and that's when they would sleeve or run closed deck blocks.

@crimescene25 3 года назад

The block is fine its the cast pistons that are the problem, i woudnt recommend going over 380hp on it.

@myboy051 7 лет назад

Nice to see how much time and effort he puts into what he does . GREAT JOB 👍👍🏁🏁

@tigga8023 6 лет назад

great vid do more!!!! can't get enough of this type of content

@samuelito4721 7 лет назад

Man there should be one of these for 1JZ and 2JZ

@KrustyQuad 6 лет назад

FNM Sam The 2jz , 4g63, and the srt4 engine are examples of what Subaru should of done 12 years ago... Pretty disappointing that a simple bolt on/tune setup is pushing the limits of the stock STi bottom end...While srt4 and Evo engines are reliably handling 400+whp big turbo setups.

@gavinpancirov 7 лет назад

Im hoping Vincent will see this but what is your theory in breaking in a built motor? I have heard many different methods and ways with both good and bad results. Mine was broken in the 50 miles break in oil, then change with break in oil again for 300 miles then regular oil. I've heard some beat the shit out of it as its suppose to break in seals, others just let it idle forever and let it break in slowly, I've heard many things. what do you do?

@osvaldovalencia6330 7 лет назад

gavin P do the oil brake in but don't Don't beat the shit out of it. You can beat the shit out of it after you brake it in. Go 3000 miles brake in first 50 miles oil change than 500 miles and then to 3000 miles another one and after then beat the shit out of it. That's the whole reason of braking the engine internal mold with each other and then u can hit it hard

@nicholasguillen4029 4 года назад

This video is absolutely awesome!! Thanks for sharing all this knowledge!!!

@jasonpelletier3824 6 лет назад

Great video and very knowledgeable. I definitely learned something, Thanks so much Vince.

@nicktroutman3463 7 лет назад

This video came in at a good time. I've been researching for months trying to build my ej22t properly, and this gave me a lot of good insight. Thank you /Drive and Vince

@boengel5342 4 года назад

Ej22t the godly engine ❤

@Zcypot 7 лет назад

haha @ 5:55 common question asked to someone trying to make quick power on Subarus. I am at 367whp(injector limited) and holy crap its fast. My setup is estimated to reach mid 400whp, and I am already pretty scared lol. Anything below 120mph it scoots pretty fast, I got some videos on low boost. Reaching 400whp on a WRX/STI is stupid quick. E85 makes torque come on so fast and hard. Great video, everytime I have a new subaru owner ask me for advice I pretty much tell them all of this. I spent a lot of time on NASIOC and getting the info can be a bit tedious. EDIT: for the AOS, did you mean the 'STREET" AOS? there is 2 different kinds and people tend to get the one that doesnt run the hot water through it to eliminate condensation for daily driven E85 cars.

@tylerlieberman3307 7 лет назад

No. He meant the competition series because it eliminates the PCV entirely. Routes to atmosphere. Street series recirculates through the factory system.

@ianpowell4406 4 года назад

Thank for the info I'll definitely check u guys when im ready for a engine

@waynejohnston4648 5 лет назад

I learnt so much from this dude. Very knowledgable. Thanks man

@agentsmith3608 7 лет назад

A tuning shop is not a tuning shop unless you have Skylines lying around!!! Shop approved!

@vanillashotzz364 7 лет назад

Agent Smith they also have a rb brz 🤙

@vanillashotzz364 7 лет назад

Agent Smith rb26 that is

@Gentlemen_london_ 6 лет назад

Aka... The Wizard..👊

@rorywynhoff1549 4 года назад

Hey Vince, thanks for the video! I learned a lot.

@cjwelty2012 3 года назад

Thanks for ur time bro!!!

@claireb8121 6 лет назад

That's crazy!!! He went from 0 to 149 "You know" under 20 minutes!!

@monsterhunter197 7 лет назад

You know you know when he says you know. You know.

@maze2756 6 лет назад

Plunder Gaming you know da way you know

@robk5745 2 года назад

Great video dude

@ashermerkabah 5 лет назад

I'm looking at getting out of my FR-S and into a 2016 ish STI, so I'm doing research on the EJ25. This video was very helpful, thank you!

@Moonrakerd 7 лет назад

we know :D

@scoobyzero 5 лет назад

Anyone here else cringe a little when he used the cordless impact gun to start the water pump bolt? I'd always prefer to start it off by hand. Also helps to line it up using two screwdrivers to help align the pump and gasket to the block.