LET'S ARGUE: Kanye Doesn't Care About His Fans 

Yes!!! This would be fun!!!

Surprised he hasn't done one yet

MELON GOT DAT DOPE

MELON BOOMIN MAKE IT BOOM 😫

OH LAWD MELON MADE ANOTHER ONE!

LMFAOOO

he doesnt, it was open tuned lol

Kinda miss him playing the original bass

*guitar respect it mofos

comments like this make me love music theory even more

Yoooo redd

Exactly

Life of Pablo

Yo

treating an album like ur midterms really does show he doesnt care tho i feel like the only reason hes even pretending to work hard on donda is because of pressure from the label

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Let's argue is finally becoming what the title implies 😂

I think the camera might be in a different angle because he moved and his setup is a bit different. But that's just a theory, a melon theory! Thanks for watching.

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@@jeffb8217 lol

Well said

People just like to bring their school trauma with grades while talking about rating media which is just completely different

@@GrandTonka this was my arguement and i get what you mean, i just feel like it’s not too gradual of a scale

Yeah but MBDTF is 9+

@@bipbipletucha what came to my mind was “kids got too used to giving 7/10 tbh rates just to be nice “

2:44

I genuinely skipped to three random points in the video to see if this was true because I didn’t notice and he swore each time

@@rehsuekul8706 it was really just the part at 2:44

@@spike5499 6:08

@@izd4 Damn he said caca? He really pushed it this time

Called it lmaoo

Damn 😎

I was fine with his answer until he said that he considers them not special because the listener doesn't have a familiarly with the general rock and pop catalog of the 1970s!!!! Like what?! What freaking rock bands sound like steely dan in the 70s? Maybe Chicago, but even that's pushing it

​​@@mybluguitar6051The similarity between early Chicago and SD makes more sense when you literally have half of Chicago (& all of Toto) as session musicians on not just 'The Royal Scam', but at least the 2 albums previous as well.

I...agree!

he’ll never do it cuz hes too busy eatin arugula salads he isnt known as the internets busiest music nerd for nothing

Wish someone would slap my large mouth bass

Not possible because that’s not vegan

Hahaha bass player joke hahaha

Slap bass

"He'S a AHead OF hLS TiMƏ" shut up :P

@@soapyguy6483 thats literally true tho

@@xiscaw yeah but it gets annoying :/

@@soapyguy6483 "I don't like calling an Orange Orange because everyone calls it's an oRaNge 🙄"

@@nnnnnn496 l think I'm mentally dumb

The higher the score,the more important each number is

that was me, and that was my entire point, that’s why the top of the ranking should be larger than the bottom

Need a new complete garbage album to come out soon.His 0 and Not Goods are his best reviews.I heard Drake is dropping soon

The 7 and 8 thing is true tho lol he gave SOUR and Blonde a 1 point difference lmao

yeah, 7s are just "i really like this record" and 8s are "i love this record"

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Big fan btw

caveman walter thanks king

MDBTF reveiw in a nutshell

@@cavemanwalter6651 poggers I will use this someday. Don't know when but someday

Please God yes.

anthony woke up ready to fight

Putting the second word in the series’ title to work.

Considering I listened to Nah Nah Nah ten times on repeat as punishment for thinking the album would release on time, I think I have a perfectly healthy relationship with Kanye

More like since Graduation

@@masonbindemann6476 WHO THEY TALM BOUT!!!! NAH NAH NAH

@@masonbindemann6476 IIIIINNNNCOMINNNNGGGG

@@masonbindemann6476 I went from liking it ironically to unironically loving it

I know man he didn't need to go that hard sheesh

homeboy literally said "the hits are good", those are the words of someone who's never listened to aja, countdown to ecstasy, royal scam, katy lied...

And you can't ignore the monster players that have played in their records.

They are one of gods greatest gifts tho 😔

Steely Dan's "hits" are arguably their least essential tunes too

@Marshall Thompson Every time I hear that "Skate a little lower now" ad lib, I just picture Fagen ripping a fat line, giving the engineer a shiteating grin through the glass, "skate a little lower now … sure looks good" and everyone in the control room losing their shit.

@Marshall Thompson skate a little lower now

yeah terrible take. Imagine calling an album like Aja ''elevator music'' lol

Having different taste from you is a poor take? Bless your heart

@@DefenestrateYourself having an opinion based on a pretty clearly demonstrated lack of knowledge on the subject matter is absolutely grounds for a bad take. literally how else would you define it?

Eyo, LOGIC IS MELON!!!

Funi

@@ToddHoward3 Funi

@@enshen2190 Funi

@@savxlandon5558 Funi

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they can really add to a song if placed correctly

@@Matthew-vh4ce if young

I can't disagree more. Even a 10/10 song can sound cringe with a producer tag. And that's coming from a producer who would love to see production take more of a spotlight and get more credit in hip hop.

@UCTw6_0yyrf26d82f46u-0Kw that tag on father stretch my hands is probably the only time a producer Tag actually added something imo

I personally think this is wrong, a 2 is definitely trash lmfao, I would even argue a 3 is trash, also, a 7 isn’t great, I don’t think there’s a “maybe even great” part in that at all, even a light 8 probably isn’t considered great just very good. I think when u get to the upper 8s that’s when u get to great territory.

@@ldhdjzjjaklzjdbd6610 Na dog he’s pretty spot on in my opinion except for saying 5,6, and 7 are ALL great which no I think it’s more like 5,6 are average and slightly above and 7 is great, and anything above 8 like he said is amazing if not a masterpiece if it’s a 10. I mean Fantano said it himself he LOVES his 8s.

Logics no pressure had a 7 and it’s probably his best work close to under pressure

@@namansheth3609 I always feel like a 6 is like "enjoyable, definitely has it's moments, but don't myself coming back often"

@@ldhdjzjjaklzjdbd6610 ... Fantano has straight up said that 0-4 are dislikes and 5-10 are likes. This isn't Video Game Journalism.

And Dan is a great example of all 3

I totally agree. There seems to be a sort of lower key re-appraisal of groups that did combos of jazz and pop, jazz fusion more generally, and things sort of called "sophisti-pop". Melon's judgement of them as a bit too elevator music kind of shouldn't make sense anymore: elevator music is millennial pop and pop-rap crossovers now. Elevator music hasn't been smooth jazz for such a long time. That kind of smooth jazzy music isn't really present in retail playlists, spotify playlists, etc. at all anymore. So, at least for people who like music as more than background, stuff like Steely Dan will likely sound new to a lot of people, new in a way that might be exciting despite the smoothness. It's disappointing that Melon thinks they're kind of boring, because I think Melon prides himself on only thinking that something is boring if it doesn't have any substance to it. Steely Dan has so much substance, between their lyrics, to their interplay between melodic and harmonic elements, to their use of rhythm as a mechanism for enlivening melody and harmony, to their very simple production style. How is it that an artist like Mark Kozelek, whose music is almost intentionally supposed to be support background to the lyrics, to Melon is a non-boring artist, while the Dan, a band abounding with so cohesive elements, a sort of boring band?

Yeah I have no clue how he could listen he could listen to all 7 of Aja's tracks and still write the band off so hard. Massively disappointing.

Thank you. Melon man lost his seeds on this one.

I recently got really into their music and have so far listened to all their albums pre-hiatus, and I can confirm. Their range in style and atmosphere is astonishing to me, sure you can attribute the origins of yacht rock to them, but that's talking just Aja. You can't dismiss their other stuff, like the apocalyptic and strikingly real concept album that is The Royal Scam, the smooth but dark counterpart to Aja with Gaucho, or even the tongue-in-cheek and oddly mischievous collection of songs on Katy Lied. I'd argue their debut album is the weakest one, back when they hadn't fully discovered their niche, but past that I really don't think they can be written off easily.

I don’t really think it’s related, i don’t think fans care where the location is where it’s finished

Literally the least he could do

also doesnt notify his fans that the album isnt dropping, even though he knows people are gonna stay up late and go to school/work tired the next day also gave multiple release dates for jesus is king and donda that were bs, which he once again didnt say anything about

@@wayback1010 He never gave any release date for Donda He just said I'mma drop Donda next year cuz he didn't mention 2020 and he also said "July 16th is meant to be a listening party" And I bet Justin got his information wrong Kanye also said "I won't leave Mike Dean unless the album is over"

@@wayback1010 nigga it’s the summer most people don’t go to school in July it’s on you if your going to listen to a 1 hour album at 3

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Vegan cannibalism

@@flecca7522 I love that band.

so sick!

*Fun Fact:

Sounded like the red dead redemption 2 soundtrack when you’re drunk shouting for Lenny

AGREED

What piece was that? Very good

Pretzel logic

It did

In the court of the simpson king

Say it louder for those in the back!

when i find myself in times of trouble i'm posting sneed on /tv/ clean it up, oh janny, all for free and in my hour of darkness, only forced memes and no oc i'm fillin' out the CAPTCHA let it sneed

Deep cut. Nice

When melon grows up he’ll look back on his own take here and cringe. Mark my words.

This.

The music gatekeeping/hatekeeping is so tiresome and pointless

@@scottcampbell1635 "If you like this band you probably don't know music" is a terrible take, makes me realise how much elitism is entrenched in melon's videos

@@cundurangoballaragjohen106 i used to watch melon all the time until you know...I grew up and discovered my own tastes rather than letting some dude decide my tastes for me. only watched this because kanye but couple minutes into the video i remember why i stopped watching

Getting input from knowledgeable and articulate art critics doesn’t remotely equate with letting someone decide what music to like. Bless your little heart though

Lmaooo

Exactly

yeah steely dan hate is so wrong their music is so detailed, diverse and catchy and the lyrics are very dylanesque whats not to love. Literally the only soft rock band i like but they have at least 7 classic albums

Beethovens of Yacht Rock.

@@SF2036 L

Your linkerton video is really good

@@venus9343 Thanks so much! should I do one for green album?

@@TotallyNotTony_ yeah that would be cool

@@venus9343 aight bet

do you know which song he played? it sounds good

@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT definitely agree

@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT Definitely 💯

Igor is just untouchable IMO. Cant compare it to the rest of his discography because it’s so different

@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT it’s pretty different (to me at least). In none of the other albums is he playing one character the whole time unless you count himself and it has the most tangible story of any of them. The rest of his albums excluding Wolf could probably be listened over and over and people wouldn’t realize if it had a narrative unless they knew it would have one. This is just my opinion because at least in my brain it’s separate from them. And the thing is I don’t think it’s that much better than the rest, it’s just different

@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT yeah that’s pretty much what I mean, but I understand where you’re coming from

Mudvayne

That’s just how melons talk, and I think we can all agree that every Fantano fan is a melon, unlike you, you dirty mango

Kanye when he releases something: BITCH I'M BACK OUT MY COMA *ERRRR*

Plus yacht rock slander. Koko wouldn’t stand for this

I….agree!

Freezing ice cold take 🥶

The definition of music is literally "The combination of sounds and silence", so yeah lol

“Stomp” is like the best example for that, I’m open to other examples

sometimes they're not even good

blame john mulaney too

Yeah, I think the biggest influence JJBA ever has today is successfully turning 16-year-old dank memers into sadboi progheads and dad rock lovers.

Bernard fucking Purdie. Enough said.

yeah when i'm trying to have a good time i always think "let me throw on something with some intensive music theory"

@@criemer2586 lmao

@@criemer2586 why not? it doesn’t affect the listening experience, unless you want to follow the score and analyse it at the same time

i can almost guarantee you steely dan were not thinking too much, or at all, about theory when they wrote their shit

The fact that i know he's making music just for himself at this point is what i love about it.

P.S. cartoons set too high expectations for everything cool, everything that is awesome looks better in cartoons.

This is so weird to me. Growing up by the beach in NC, it’s hard to imagine going to a beach and not having a great time.

@@FKDotFitzgerald i once went to a beach in rockland, mass that was a 100 yards wide, covered in weeds, and still recovering from a rain storm earlier that week. it was awesome. in fairness we have cape cod and martha's vineyard in mass but the tourism front is the trade off for the well maintained coastline it seems.

Come to Maine we got beaches all over man

@@crim8649 I will be soon, got a friend going to college in Maine and so when I visit I'll try and check out a beach or two

Alright bro

What would you be saying if it was the exact same situation but it was called an album release party 🤷

@@napppstar0 lmfao what

@@napppstar0 i’d admit defeat, plus august 5th he called it “album release party”, if he’s not droppin, well.. shit

We miss you, Cal

absolutely unsubbed this is unconscionable

He was talking about the jazz

@@haywoodjblome4768 which makes it worse; if he knew what he was talking about he'd know that Steely Dan's jazz elements are the most advanced-tier component of their sound

nobody wants to go to fucking maine

@@firegodmc1080 the southern touristy beach part is great. But yeah the rest of the state is kinda depressing.

@@firegodmc1080 tell that to the entirety of Massachusetts ):

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Lol, I think it has more to do with the parents of newer generations listening to the music while we were kids.

To a certain extent, definitely. I think the amount of jojo fans is too small for it to be the biggest factor though

"their hits are good" bro he's obviously barely listened to them