Libertarian Wants Freedom to Buy Any Lightbulb, Have Slaves 

First they came for the 75 watt incandescent light bulbs, and I said nothing, for I was not a 75 watt incandescent light bulb.

I like how slavery is negotiable but driving Prius...

the freedom to enslave -- libertarianism in a nutshell.

Forcing me to have a better lightbulb is ridiculous. Slavery is cool tho - Libertarian

"I'm from Alabama, but I don't believe any state would make slavery legal by vote" *Lives in a state that had slavery and a majority of voters in favor at the time*

It never ceases to amaze me how in the space of 14 minutes the caller goes from defending the right to own a 10 watt lightbulb... to the right to owning other people.

Caller: We shouldn’t be paying people money they don’t earn. Sam: Your state takes in more than it earns. Caller: Good.

Clearly this guy cut History class a lot.

“Slavery is never gonna happen.” Uh, history much fella?

Doesn't know anything about Climate Change but has an opinion about it! Interesting.

When they came for the light bulbs, I said nothing, because I was not a light bulb. When they came for toxic waste dumps, I said nothing, because I was not a toxic waste dump. Then they came for my freedom... oh wait - no they didn't.

I love how often libertarian callers say things like "Are you serious?!" and "Seriously?!" They're so unused to having their views challenged that they think it's all just so self-evident and obvious.

When you permit a state to keep slaves because of "state's rights," you are declaring that you think the rights of the slaveowners to keep slaves is more important than the rights of the slaves to go free. It doesn't matter whether you side with the slaves or the slaveowners, you're restricting someone's freedom. The difference is, I'm restricitng freedom in a way that grants freedom to oppressed people. You're restricting freedom in a way that aids the oppressors.

This is what pisses me off about libertarians, believing the curves of supply and demand are all you need to justify anything, and anything beyond that is intervention.

"Our forefathers DIED so we could ride in horse and buggy on the highway..."- awesome.

holy shit this man is insane he wants to negotiate human rights

First they came for my light bulbs, and I said nothing. then they came for my ecoli, and I said nothing...

Every libertarian basically: “I wanna smoke weed and not pay taxes”

I remember this cartoon from when I was young. This kid dreams he's magically transported to a place called Yesland, a world where he can have anything he wants for free and do anything he wants. The kid is thrilled, walking around with all the candy he can eat and throwing rocks through people's windows. Then a bigger kid walks up to him and punches him right in the face. He cries and says, "Why'd you do that?!" The bigger kid says, "Because I felt like it! This is Yesland! I can do whatever I want!" And when the little kid wakes up, he realizes he's learned a valuable lesson. I wish we could put these libertarians into the world they wish they could inhabit, for just a year or so. Let their neighbor and all the local businesses enjoy the same total freedom they do and see if they'd be happy about it as shit is getting dumped on their lawn. I guarantee you that when they came back they'd say we goddam well need rules and regs for everybody, and people ought to pay taxes. Or maybe they're so thick they wouldn't learn a thing. Assholes.

As an electrician I can tell you I’ve seen wiring destroyed by 75 watt plus light bulbs.

dear libertarians if the problem is millionaires leaving from a country because they dislike the taxes there's a term for that : TAX EVASION THE SOLUTION IS TO TREAT THEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE , seise their assets and arrest him for tax evasion BECAUSE IT'S A CRIME

Seeing Sam resist the urge to laugh when libertarians say something absurd will always make my day

This guy needs to go away to Somalia if he wants small government so badly. They have a lot of "freedom" over there.

Why is this libertarian calling via a phone, the phone companies are regulated by the govt

I like how the caller throws around the term "outlawed" as if having an old lightbulb will land you in prison.

"Are you serious!?" I love how completely unearned the callers confidence is. Dunning Kruger effect.

Can a libertarian create a freedom that causes his own destruction?

"I have a problem with all the amendments that they're adding." Judging by his earlier remarks, it sounds like he really has a problem with number 13.

I've listened to enough of these calls and understand libertarians perfectly. They just don't understand the world as a whole. They aren't unable to see the big picture, they don't know a bigger picture exist.

Sam: Is it okay if one state has slavery, and another state doesn't? There is only one right answer to this, and it's not "Well, see, I personally don't support slavery"

Caller: "A libertarian believes you should be free to do as you please as long as you are not harming others and their property." Also caller: "Yeah, if a state wants to, it should be able to institute slavery without the federal government stepping in."

How dare you push a more efficient energy saving lightbulb on me! I want the freedom to buy inferior products!

Holy crap, just realized that this caller is "James from the South"

Caller: "We have some freedumbs" Sam: "We do have some free dumbs." Hahahahahah

Wherever this guy is now, i guarantee you he’s surrounded by LED lighting.

i love the people laughing in the background

Not a single person in the entire country pays 40% income tax to the federal government.

Should they be protecting your property from mercury emissions produced by power plants? How about protecting it from pollution of the air and water on the property? This guy is so much like so many libertarians I know - he likes all the advantages of a cooperative society, but gets annoyed when that puts a burden on him.

The caller is a member of the Dunning - Kruger club and doesn't know it.

“The South has a certain kind of ignorance that is deeper and truer, more unwavering and steadfast, than the rest of the country has.” - David Cross

This guy is quite the prolific scientist. Not only does he have extensive research into the effect of incandescent light bulbs on the carbon footprint but he's also a climate scientist with extensive research into the effect of human presence on the earth's climate. Wow, I knew this guy was deluded but Jesus Christ, slavery? That's how far he would go with this?

What about 69W lightbulbs? We don't have freedom until we have 69W lightbulbs!

All about personal liberty until it comes to slavery

I haven't listened to this in a long time, but gosh darn it, is it ever good. It sounds like one of those fake call in shows in GTA.

Caller: "I hate those moochers that have 14 kids and live on welfare!" Sam: "Alabama is the highest mooching state in terms of federal funding." Caller: "Well good, we should all mooch as much as possible."

I bet this guy gets Social Security or Medicaid.

I love Sams face at 13:19 when he realizes the guy will start debating the slavery point

The honest, genuine laughter of Michael Brooks in the background of these old videos is amazing. It takes me out of the moment in the most wholesome way, and it makes going through the archives doubly worth it

Literally died when he said a state should be able to have slavery.

Dude spent half an hour thinking about what he'll say to Sam while waiting on the phone and all he could come up with was light bulb. 😂😂

This sounds like the same guy that called over global warming.

4 years later and we more have more choices of light bulbs than can then. This dude is off the reservation.

“I’m still young and I don’t know everything…” the fact that this guy thinks older people know everything is childish. Bless his heart ♥️

18:00 - Libertarians believe that you should be free to do as you please as long as you are not harming someone else or their property. Earlier... 13:32 - Yes, if the voters want it, it should be OK to own slaves. 🤷‍♂️

every caller into this show sounds exactly the same. Almost every time I think it's a return appearance.

Having had a libertarian phase for about a year, I can safely say that what the caller is talking about isn't even a libertarian regime; it's obvious as soon as he mentioned slavery being a matter of voting. I may not like the libertarian ideology anymore, but they realize that slavery, the forceful infringing upon of someone's rights into servitude, is NOT something that should be on the voting table. I mean, how do you even rationalize legalized slavery as an increased amount of freedom in general?? The libertarians I've talked to don't even like the idea of democracy, of allowing people to vote on issues, because they see it as two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. To a certain extent, they're right; we need protections for people when it comes to their basic rights so they can't be voted away, obviously including personhood, beliefs, things of that ilk (me now being a leftist I'd take it a step further and say things like a right to education and healthcare are things people should have, but I suppose that's a "negative rights versus positive rights" debate where we'd get into responsibility to community or responsibility only to self, so I won't delve) (Though if libertarians do want to debate me on why a responsibility to community would inevitably have to include government, I'll level with you that it shouldn't NECESSARILY have to; I'm open to arguments favoring minarchism or anarchism, but there needs to be a heavy, HEAVY emphasis on voluntary organization and community in the culture, so that societal problems could be taken care of. But most libertarians I talk to go beyond just a hands-off approach from government - they usually flat-out think pure individualism and "everyone to their own business" is the way to go; they don't even talk of changing the culture, the attitudes, organizing to deal with problems on a large scale, etc. To be fair, that's USUALLY, but it's still far more than half the time.)

"i believe states should be able to have slavery" "In my state - Alabama" Yeah that tracks 😂

He thinks everything is a grey area because his light bulbs are too dim

“Regulating what lightbulbs I can have is a direct infringement on my liberty, but I fully support a state’s right to have slaves.” - Libertarians

Jesus. Sam ran circles around this guy. He was having fun with this one

7 years later and this was still the most coherent libertarian

I love the way he can't help but suppress a smile at the start when the caller says why do you not want liberty.

Amusing that the dimmest bulbs require the brightest illumination

'What the Americans call freedom is just exposure to chance'. Karl Marx

Michael's continuous cackle makes me so happy.

I love that he said he doesn't know everything but still made a point to disagree the overt majority or scientists

its hard to win a debate when ur arguing on the side of lunacy

"The government only takes and never backtracks" my man, that's a bold statement during decades of privatization

Lotta gray areas...... Whole lot of gray areas. Those damn gray areas.

The irony is that Libertarians ultimately fight for the freedom of corporations to limit the freedoms of individual Libertarians.

Libertarians are like unicorns: You heard about them, people make pictures of them but no one has seen one on real life.

You should bring back Chad now in 2020 and see what his views are. They probably have not changed much...

The little smile Sam Seder makes when the guys says "Absolutely my rights are being infringed upon!" Sam knows exactly what he's about to get into.

"We do have some free-dumbs." CLASSIC!

Dude, you missed it! If Alabama voted to invoke slavery, the question to the 'libertarian' should be, what if that law passed was that the whites were now the slaves, or gods forbid, libertarians? I think he would change his tune.

“Slavery should be allowed” “sorry for swearing” Bro idk if ur moral compass is adjusted correctly

This dude sounds like my drinking buddy about 13 beers in. After 13 beers he blacks out, and it's nothing but slippery slope arguments. 😵 _"Oh yeeeaaah? What if tha gumumment decides to take away all lights and leave us in the dark!? Huuh...?"_

Rest in Power Michael 💛 laughing hysterically in the background since 2013.

When you agree with slavery you have fallen off the deep end lmao

That was rough. Guy was in way over his head.

Lol, this is why cold feet Crowder didn't want to debate seder.😹😹😹😹

The caller uses the argument from ignorance approach. He can't see how the regulation prevents harm, therefore it must be a frivolous regulation. He offers the critical "Aw, c'mon. Seriously" argument. Later in the video, when Sam asks if a state should be allowed to institute slavery, he says "Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think they should." So, according to this libertarian caller, the state should be able to pass laws that severely trespass on your liberty. But they should not pass laws that encroach upon your choice of light bulbs.

He doesn't seem to get that we have to choose between the freedom to pollute and the freedom to not inhale exhaust fumes. Regulations are there to give us the freedom to live a decent life.

I listen to TMR almost every day, and God I wish they got more of these.

Caller: "global warming isn't caused by humans!" Also caller about 45 seconds later: "I haven't read anything about the subject"

23:00 there you have it, conservatism in a nutshell. Against welfare for everybody else but if you even think about cutting theirs they’ll scream Til they turn blue 🤣

"I know more than climate scientists." Lol.

The libertarian idea of US states doesn't just involve freedom from the feds. It involves increased dominion over municipalities and counties. The idea is to have a state government with zero accountability to opposition: what it wants, it gets, no exceptions.

Libertarians: "I believe in freedom for all and WHY DO YOU HATE LIBERTY?" Also Libertarians: "A state should be able to allow slave ownership"

Personally, I *love* the fact that I can run 5w bulbs now to light my house.

Why do all the libertarian callers sound like teenagers?

So according to the caller someone who earns hundreds of thousands a year should pay the same tax as some who earns thousands? How does that makes sense? And of cause everyone who needs financial support are lazy, they don't need it for legitimate reasons like disability, illness, just losing their job, a bad job market, having a child, being a carer, etc. I'm sorry but the excuse of billionaires saying that they can't run their business because they have to pay slightly more tax (or any tax) is complete BS, personally I'd just take all their money because they are greedy selfish inhumans but the idea that paying a small bit of their wealth is somehow a terrible thing is ridiculous, a person earn hundreds of thousands or more is still richer than most people in the country after paying higher taxes. You should pay tax on proportion to your wealth.

this guy's slope is so slippery I'm breaking my neck just listening to his argument lol

These woke libertarian kids are always good for a laugh.

"People should have freedom." "If a state votes to adopt slavery, they should have slavery."

This guy needs to sue the Alabama educational system.

Sam, Matt, and Company, I am constantly in awe of you all. You are a shining light in an ocean of ignorance and stupidity. If I had to deal with some of the morons who call in to your show I would end up in a padded room. Stay strong and keep up the good fight. We are starting to turn things around. ✌

According to a Libertarian, regulating the watts of a light bulb should only be done so through the seller/producer and the consumer. In other words, it's up to the consumer to research these lightbulbs and find that they're wasting a lot of energy and they come to the conclusion they don't like that. Word about this gets out and the consumers boycott the lightbulb companies (most brands are owned by one company, GE, which makes it hard to boycott in the first place) by not purchasing any bulbs from them. The company profit decreases and they respond to the consumer's demands for energy efficient light bulbs. This ideology is just about as idealistic and impossible as Communism.

😂 he said other countries then listed off Africa, Europe and Brazil.. 🎶one of these things is not like the others...🎶

I really wanna see some kind of 'where are they now' clips from these past callers.