Seder Debates The Last Real Libertarian

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Libertarian calls in to propose eliminating property tax on people's first residence to promote home sovereignty. The Majority Report crew ask where people are supposed to get money to buy a home in the first place as many do not have the means. Sam explains why the caller's idea is a subsidiary goal to the decommodification of housing and the other avenues of increasing home security like rent control.
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Getting rid of property tax and decommodifying things that way as opposed to just saying like you can't be a landlord or maybe like rent control. I meant there's a lot of ways to get to those sort of Top Line goals that you're talking about, which I think are admirable goals and ones I would support, but I don't know the way you're going about it just seems to be a little bit more complicated than it needs to be. And I think like oh home ownership is not even when the context of home of living in a home sort of it shouldn't be the primary goal, the primary goal should be living in a place where you feel secure and is a decent place, but I would say that there are a lot of people who don't feel secure right now. Especially with rent prices...

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@Noisy_Cricket 2 года назад

Sam's face when they say "I'm a libertarian..." is one of life's little joys.

@StormcastMarine 2 года назад

lol, came here to comment this. It's like a batter seeing a slow ball coming "I'm going to knock this thing onto the roof"

@LinkRocks 2 года назад

He perked up, didn't he?

@kaisarion6668 2 года назад

Something lights up inside of Sam

@ReR7474 2 года назад

Sam's dream; crew's their nightmares.

@lordina1 2 года назад

If I am only just listening TMR and I hear a caller say they are a libertarian I have to look at the video and then rewind to see Sam's expression, lol He loves it.

@donjuan2371 2 года назад

A libertarian that thinks the last libertarian didn’t represent libertarianism well? How shocking.

@noaht3087 2 года назад

Libertarianism has been fully hijacked by uber wealthy business people that just don't like regulation or taxes.

@robinsss 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic he wants to force companies to pay their workers more money

@TheMegaelectronic 2 года назад

@@robinsss his idea would absolutely destroy the real estate investment industry. Say goodbye to hundreds of thousands of livelihoods and jobs.

@robinsss 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic a better idea is to use sales taxes to pay for the gov't on non essentials

@rappadapp 2 года назад

I read the last 2 words of your comment very slowly because libertarians are so... Slow... To get... It.

@travisjones1481 2 года назад

I remember how cool I felt calling myself a libertarian at 17, so glad I actually started learning how the world works

@nvna1111 2 года назад

literally

@garygrinkevich6971 2 года назад

painfully accurate.

@robinsss 2 года назад

what's unrealistic about libertarian philosophy?

@garygrinkevich6971 2 года назад

@@robinsss the issue in praxis is how poorly humans act when they invent an artificial hierarchy and put themselves at the top, every small business is essentially the Stanford prison experiment.

@dblock20 2 года назад

@@robinsss right-wing Libertarians philosophy is like house cats. They believe that they are independent and don't need to system, but you give them the freedom they want and leave them outside to fend for themselves, most would die

@danhirtle9279 2 года назад

I have to admit wanting dog friendly rental properties nationwide is the least obnoxious thing I have ever heard a self described libertarian say...most of them would be happy with letting homeless people starve in the streets.

@mutoneon 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 Roughly 2/3 of homeless people are only homeless for a few weeks or months, but they most certainly do not enjoy it. In fact it’s one of the most stressful situations someone can be in. You sound distinctly uncharitable, and quite substantially ignorant.

@jaronfeld123 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 Yeah dude I’m sure they love being hungry, exposed to the elements, and dirty.

@jaronfeld123 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 They turn down shelter? Prove it.

@jaronfeld123 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 Just talked to a social worker. They said you’re full of shit. Now prove it, clown.

@oscarg8449 2 года назад

That is why left-wingers give far less to charity than right-wingers? They care so much about the homeless people?

@mickeydrippins6408 2 года назад

For a libertarian, he’s spelled out quite a progressive tax system. There is merit to the idea as initially proposed.

@alexandercaruso2889 2 года назад

Maybe he’ll grow to be a real real libertarian, someday, cough cough communist.

@TheMegaelectronic 2 года назад

Absolutely not. He's the furthest thing from libertarian. The first thing he advocated for is higher taxes for people who buy a second home. LMAO so much for "property rights"! This dude is a grifter

@ShaithMaster 2 года назад

@@alexandercaruso2889 Communist? Not close

@aaronpolichar7936 2 года назад

@@ShaithMaster that's where the term libertarian originated, with anarcho-communists.

@Thesngian 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic Depends on how you define property rights.

@HoopityHoop17 2 года назад

Hey at least this guy wasn’t arrogant like all the others and seemed respectful.

@wynoglia 2 года назад

Fair

@adeofbass 2 года назад

And didn't try to tie himself in word-salad knots like most of them.

@kylewelch2146 2 года назад

regardless of the libertarian being wrong, the debate was well mannered. can respect that, most libertarians come on here just seeking attention. this guy seems like he wants to actually debate.

@caitieeeee 2 года назад

Yeah I think it's because this libertarian seems far more... concerned about the wellbeing of others than the others who call in.

@scifisyko 2 года назад

He didn’t even want to debate, just really wanted discuss - if all libertarians were like this I don’t think I’d have nearly as much of a problem with them.

@SonicBoomC98 2 года назад

I agree but also some Progressives don't like to debate either. They bite your head off if you don't instantly agree even when you're making valid points

@LinkRocks 2 года назад

@@scifisyko Yes we would because their policy beliefs are terrible. Y'all have to stop falling for the decorum bit.

@scifisyko 2 года назад

@@LinkRocks it’s the not the decorum, it’s that he’s apparently abandoned large chunks of what makes libertarianism shitty

@yoredeerleader 2 года назад

That can’t be the case. I’m the last real libertarian and I was out of the compound all day jet packing to the post office to pick up my social security.

@KingslayerSrb 2 года назад

NO I'M THE LIBERTARIAN

@fishbiter9409 2 года назад

Wtf? That's obviously false because I'm the last real libertarian, and I dare anyone to prove they have a bigger child labor jetpack fuel factory that is being attacked by more bears daily! You can't because I have a private business who I pay to keep a record of who the last real libertarian is and they assure me that it's me every time I drop off my payment of jet pack fuel and child laborers that I found 'out in the wilderness'.

@Justin-ou6ms 2 года назад

as soon as i saw the title knew i had to watch

@lawrence142002 2 года назад

This guy's heart is in the right place, I think he just needs to read a bit more. Libertarian Socialism is a perfectly valid political philosophy, just this fella hasn't fully formed his ideas. I think he needs to be encouraged.

@alexandercaruso2889 2 года назад

Yes.

@zynnfindo4776 2 года назад

Agreed

@hyphen8d725 2 года назад

The only true libertarianism, is socialist libertarianism! Also closely related with Anarcho-Communism!

@spiderpickle3255 2 года назад

You are absolutely right. I'm also from Colorado and I was the same brand of "libertarian" at one time, but as my pool of information grew I matured out of it. I'd bet the caller is a native of Colorado, because there is usually a pretty clear distinction between someone from Colorado who considers themselves libertarian and someone from another state who is a libertarian. You can see the semantics battle pretty clearly when you see arguments about whether our governor Polis is libertarian or not, and there are lots of those arguments to be found.

@firefly9838 2 года назад

As a libertarian socialist myself I'm usually told that isn't a thing and I can't exist.

@GraphiteShores 2 года назад

It's really funny how this Libertarian claims to be a 'real' libertarian, when it seems more like he is someone who hasn't really thought about his own political mindset and just happened to like the tag of Libertarianism cause it ain't 'democrat or republican'. I mean, I hope he keeps going down this path of thinking of how to support others and what that would entail, cause he already shows a LOT MORE genuine critical thinking and empathy than a vast majority of Libertarian callers.

@RachelRaquel666 2 года назад

i thought so too!!! it was surprisingly heartwarming.

@__D10S__ 2 года назад

He's very clearly using libertarian in the European sense where it is more closely aligned with socialism. He said he generally leans towards socialist and he made a comment about Emma saying the right stole the term "libertarian" (which they absolutely did). I don't even agree with this person, but just because you don't know the historical context doesn't make this dumb. I think it's weird to use the that descriptor in America without qualifying at the start, but it seems like he's trying to take the word back.

@sunMMVIII 2 года назад

@@__D10S__ Trying to reclaim a term is a double-edged sword. The attempt might add net credibility to the sullied term, or related movement, before it is able to make enough impact. I don't think the connection to European Libertarianism is so clear. In current-day America, Libertarianism is a catch-all for wanna-be political outsiders. That has to be acknowledged.

@spiderpickle3255 2 года назад

@Nicholas Time I give this caller a year or two before he does just that

@Dreadkid08 2 года назад

No he's calling himself a libertarian because he is identifying as a libertarian socialist which is the original libertarian and its extremely progressive. Jamie who used to be on this show was a libertarian socialist. Libertarian socialism has roots as far back as the 19th Century. The modern free market type libertarian is a recent phenomenon and they stole that word from libertarian socialists.

@Arkayem 2 года назад

This was less toxic than I expected.

@ArchlordZer0 2 года назад

What I gathered from listening to all of these Libertarians is that the key core tenant of defining oneself as a Libertarian is being confused.

@ajgunter8932 2 года назад

Most Libertarians grow up to be Liberals

@fishbiter9409 2 года назад

From what I've gathered, Libertarianism is all about reinventing things that already exist and putting your name on them. Like taxes, and courts, and subway tunnels.

@M00nSlippers 2 года назад

@@fishbiter9409 That's a good way of putting it. They think everything the government does will just naturally be taken up by other people and be magically uncorrupt without any oversight, and anyone left behind will just have some reason why they deserve it. It's like, half voluntary communism half anarchy, or something.

@PTPalmer_NPC 2 года назад

I think he was the nicest and most coherent libertarian whose ever called in though. The guy honestly just wanted to talk and was willing to actually listen. It was like hearing a unicorn lol

@autrielle4200 2 года назад

There's more than a few of us out here, and it seems like the key difference I've seen between people is their willingness to change their mind when presented with compelling evidence, regardless of political ideology.

@Saurawr 2 года назад

Hes just a left libertarian, and not a far right lunatic libertarian. Most left libertarians don't describe themself as that, they just say socialist, because the other libertarians stole the term due to their remarkable whackiness. This guy sounded like a standard leftist to me with a few odd particular points brought up first. His specific policy prescriptions are kind of weird (rents go up in part due to property tax, adding a huge property tax increase to large landlords would just increase rent...), but I don't think there is anything in particular hed really disagree with a typical socialist on. I'd also describe myself as a libertarian, because my moral and political prescriptions come from a place of valuing liberty of every individual, but normal ass socialist is probably just a better term and set of policy prescriptions

@RachelRaquel666 2 года назад

i really like this guy who called in. i think his comments about owning a home, and having your own place that you can start and end your days... like, that's a level of security and stability that i haven't felt since i lived with my parents, it sounds like heaven actually. this guy seems like his heart is in the right place, and i liked this call. edit: i generally hate listening to libertarians.

@schumanhuman 2 года назад

The guy is coming close to the Georgist/left libertarian positiion, understanding land monopoly is a big issue, but by excluding primary residence from land tax he is creating a massive and unfair distortion. Someone owning a massive home tax free in Silicon valley has a massive privilege over someone owning a smaller one in rural Alabama. We should tax all land at or near to market rental value, that will push prices down and make houses and rents as cheap as they can be without creating a privilege for some over others.

@treedillinger5801 2 года назад

@@schumanhuman if property taxes were at rental levels…why would anybody ever even consider buying a home?? You’d be pushing the value to zero from the perspective of a homeowner [because I can get the same house for the same monthly fee: without a down payment, mortgage, interest, homeowners insurance etc.] Homes would have value only to landlords…and rents would skyrocket. Rental values don’t just exist in nature: they’re derived from other realities of life. It would be not only impractical, but impossible to permanently couple property taxes to rental values. You’d basically have to own a home and rent it out, and use the rental income to rent another house 🤯. Then property values would derive from ROI (investors expect to recoup initial investment in 18 months and then start to profit). Again: homes would be worth exactly zero to residential homeowners.

@carloscabrera7073 2 года назад

@@treedillinger5801 Ummm......rent includes the taxes the landlord pays for the property. Along with insurance and maintenance. That's how rent works.

@treedillinger5801 2 года назад

@@carloscabrera7073 lmfao…what’s your point? Thanks for stating the obvious. The landlord expects to pay those and make a profit on top of it. That’s why rents are substantially higher than property taxes. So after you tell me what your point was: explain to me how property taxes would be the same as rents.

@carloscabrera7073 2 года назад

@@treedillinger5801 You're making it sound like rent affects property taxes when it's the other way around.

@billthebutcher2 2 года назад

Good call, he was respectful and had some genuine ideas, still needed some working out, but at least he has put some thought into a real issue as opposed to just wanting to make selfishness into public policy

@ZERO_O7X 2 года назад

After listening to him, I feel like he's more of an Anarcho-Syndicalist in reality, but he hasn't quite figured that out yet. This was a very positive and enjoyable conversation more than it was a "debate" like most "libertarian" callers.

@Bo_539 2 года назад

Comments are being pretty mean, dude just came to talk and came out of it *hopefully* learning something

@ElviAlivE 2 года назад

Yeah, this libertarian was really tame compared to the others.

@tomtom2719 2 года назад

I work construction; 90% of the jobs I do are residential remodels. Out of those, probably a third are being remodeled to be air bnbs. I don't know much about economics or the housing market but that seems like an artificial demand for housing that drives up prices.

@ridicule1313 2 года назад

Libertarian socialism is based, actually. (This guy isn’t a fantastic representation, but he’s trying lmao)

@hyphen8d725 2 года назад

Ancoms unite!

@firefly9838 2 года назад

LibSoc is Amazing.

@davecunningham579 2 года назад

Vaush much?

@ridicule1313 2 года назад

@@davecunningham579 I don’t even consider Vaush a good representation

@davecunningham579 2 года назад

@@ridicule1313 honestly he's the only one I've ever heard take the title. It sounds oximoronic.

@Ink129 2 года назад

As someone who never went through a libertarian phase when I was younger... I still don't get it.

@Deemo202 2 года назад

Lmao the look of joy on Sam’s face when he heard “I’m a libertarian” 😂

@sullen2420 2 года назад

What if we allow tenants who rent to choose to OWN the unit once they pay enough in rent to match fair market value? Then they would automatically be on a "board of owners" for buildings, etc. and we would eventually end up with a system of renter cooperatives....

@SonicBoomC98 2 года назад

Most of these investors aren't going for that. I really don't understand why more of them are interested in offering to sell to the tenant or doing a lease purchase. Why wait years to get the same money?

@TheEvolver311 2 года назад

Libertarianism functions like being the Highlander: there can be only one

@lepus6511 2 года назад

Nice name you got there 👽

@gnomechomsky2524 2 года назад

Everyone please encourage Aaron Dickson, aka Dissident Right, aka Mandatory Helicopter Rides, aka Let's Go Brandon, and a dozen other names, to call in to the live show to debate Sam. He's very timid and needs encouragement. Right now he's making excuses that the live show isn't live at all, that it's pre-recorded. He also made the excuse that no one knows who Sam Seder is. Obviously he's shitting his pants, but his comments in the MR comment sections tell me he would do amazing against Sam. Let's go, Aaron!

@gnomechomsky2524 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 Definitely referring to you. How did this guy in the video manage to call in to the live show?

@philipvipond2669 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 Send an email with your area code. You'll have a better chance of getting picked. You can do it!

@gnomechomsky2524 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 Aaron, there’s no reason to be terrified. You’re smarter than Sam, once you get on the phone with him you’ll realize it and your nervousness will go away. You can do it, big guy! Let’s go Aaron!

@lepus6511 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 🐥

@gnomechomsky2524 2 года назад

@@mandatoryhelicopterrides3617 It’s ok, Aaron. I believe in you. Everyone here believes in you. You can do it, stop making excuses. Let’s go Aaron!

@TokenBlackman7 2 года назад

B-But... It's not even December! It's Christmas time, already!?!?

@woody_you_want 2 года назад

To be honest, I think this is the best libertarian caller Sam has had. He brought up a lot of good points but just couldn't quite get there lol

@influencerpodcasts 2 года назад

This stupid advertisement for a Jordan Peterson keeps popping up before MR vids for me. It opens with him saying "One of the things I tell young men is 'you should be a monster, an absolute monster. And then you should learn to control it.'" I'm sure it's him taking the most absolute basic/mundane principle he could possibly advocate for & then wording it dramatically/bizarrely like always. So annoying.

@kimmcdonagh6756 2 года назад

I know, right. 1st time I heard the commercial, I thought it was going to be a JP takedown video.....and then I realized it was just a commercial.😒

@Tmanaz480 2 года назад

Home "ownership" is an illusion. How many people actually own their home? For most "homeowners" the bank is their landlord. The hope of owning their entire home 30 years later never comes true.

@nati7728 2 года назад

This is interesting because I sympathize a lot with the motive of the caller. I think Sam identified what has been hard to express, that it’s more important to feel secure than to feel ownership. My knee jerk is to just build a billion condos that everyone living there owns completely. Maybe the details working out to the state/community being your landlord but idk

@TheMegaelectronic 2 года назад

You mean section 8 housing? Or full blown communism? This comme t section is so dense.

@ajae... 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic That comment didn't describe Section 8 housing at all.

@zynnfindo4776 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic can you please explain how what was said might equate to “full blown communism”? And what makes it “full blown”?

@RachelRaquel666 2 года назад

Same here, it's terrifying to always feel like you're on the brink of homelessness, miss rent by three days and come home to an eviction notice..i am starting to feel a little stir of panic just typing this. i better just stop typing. good night, y'all.

@zynnfindo4776 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic you are just repeating what they said (not quite accurately btw). I asked for an explanation…

@normtrooper4392 2 года назад

Tragically with the Supreme Court attacking the EPA, the libertarian habitat is even more endangered.

@Seánasadventure 2 года назад

To be fair to the caller the right did bastardize libertarian so it is no longer recognizable. Also the caller at least has his heart on the right place just needs to tweak his ideas a bit.

@jewsco 2 года назад

Another libertarian who knows more about being a libertarian than every other libertarian but proves none of them have a clue

@docmalthus 2 года назад

Nicely said.

@PlanetOfTheApes999 2 года назад

"If freedom means anything at all, it means the freedom to enslave!" - typical libertarian in 2020

@LocoGeorge123 2 года назад

“Libertarian in the United States means the opposite of what it means in the rest of the world. In the United States someone who calls themselves libertarian really believes in complete and utter tyranny, just the absolute worst type of tyranny.” - Noam Chomsky

@carloscabrera7073 2 года назад

Libertarians believe oppression should be left to the private sector.

@fredsanford1437 2 года назад

Huh? Slavery is the polar opposite of libertarianism. I would argue voting for a corporate duopoly like Sam advocates for is MUCH more akin to slavery.

@fredsanford1437 2 года назад

@@LocoGeorge123 “We need to start putting people in concentration camps” Also Noam Chomsky

@PlanetOfTheApes999 2 года назад

@@fredsanford1437 He would never seriously say something like that. It must have been bitterly ironic.

@TraumaSandwhich 2 года назад

Damn I gotta say, I actually really like the idea of cutting property taxes on first homes and raising taxes on second homes and then just funding schools through regular taxes like we should be doing anyway.

@EdwardBIl 2 года назад

I agree. Also, seems to me, if we drastically raised the property tax on the rich it would offset the loss from single homeowner tax well enough that the loss of social funding wouldn't be that bad.

@TwoForFlinchin1 2 года назад

I feel like the guy has good values. He's just a little caught on the specifics of universal housing.

@Junebug89 2 года назад

Weird how The Last Real Libertarian sounds different every time he calls in.

@keveyson 2 года назад

The caller says he's a libertarian but also says he tends to be socialist... I don't think you know what these words mean.

@blankspace6367 2 года назад

Inigo Montoya

@wvu05 2 года назад

There are people who call themselves libertarian socialists. Both share the tendency to not really think about how things will go with the next generation. The main difference between the two in their utopias is that the lefty version tries to hit the Reset button on wealth.

@corvid8461 2 года назад

The label libertarian originally referred to libertarian socialists like anarchists and fellow travelers. In the mid 20th century the right basically stole the word from the left.

@formlessknight4288 2 года назад

I love how sam perks up every time a caller says "I'm a libertarian"

@MugRuith 2 года назад

I certainly agree with the callers goal of increasing access to home ownership and the security therein.

@Aberusugi 2 года назад

Property tax is kinda messed up. In some states a poor working class person saves up barely enough to just buy a house, and as their neighborhood gets gentrified they never move up.

@geared2cre8 2 года назад

Walmart could take 10% of its yearly profits and give each employee a $10,000 a year pay raise or just give all employees free Healthcare.

@StyxTBuferd 2 года назад

"They weren't real libertarians" "Yes" Every single time. Maybe libertarians don't actually stand for anything except this abstract belief of free markets solve everything, without any nuance as to what markets are and without any understanding as to the mechanisms of markets that make that belief justifiable. It's a religion more than a moral system.

@M00nSlippers 2 года назад

Yeah, they don't seem to get that without government oversight the free market doesn't stay free for very long.

@twonumber22 2 года назад

Here we go

@spectersmusic 2 года назад

This sounds like my friend who is a ‘libertarian’ but believes in all the progressive agenda when you break it down issue by issue. Then when I try and make him relate that back to libertarianism he’s talking in circles.

@TheMegaelectronic 2 года назад

Yeah. This guy is the furthest thing from libertarian. Literally advocates for higher taxes for people who bought a second home. Wtf

@RachelRaquel666 2 года назад

@@TheMegaelectronic prolly why i kinda liked him

@amandagarcia2848 2 года назад

An actual libertarian socialist. A very rare breed. Damn right stole the word libertarian from the from libertarian socialists and poisoned it.

@Manusmusic 2 года назад

Funniest eyebrow tilt is a telltale sign of Libertarian's nearby

@Graeberwave 2 года назад

All you ex-libertarian types owe me reparations. I never went through that phase, you never paid me for all those lessons I taught you. I accept Paypal.

@cosmic_jon 2 года назад

Property values are so high in part because large investors and corporations have bought it all up and forced everyone else to rent, so I think this guy is on to something. Everyone has to live somewhere, so why should your money just go into someone else's pocket?

@SonicBoomC98 2 года назад

yeah these investors are making it hard for regular people

@mariah2966 2 года назад

THE DAILY WIRE JORDAN PETERSON AD I GOT AT THE TOP OF THIS VIDEO HAHAHAHA

@Ianpact 2 года назад

Thank you, Sam and TMR crew.

@tomg3285 2 года назад

I don't think this guy's going to be libertarian for very much longer

@RoccosVideos 2 года назад

Whenever a libertarian calls in I know I’m in for a good laugh.

@kkimberling 2 года назад

I'm not entirely sure why this person identifies himself primarily as a libertarian, but he actually seems fairly reasonable compared to most libertarians that call in.

@alexandercaruso2889 2 года назад

A libertarian debate god it has been so long since one of these.

@wvu05 2 года назад

A week is too long between these.

@Alex-cw3rz 2 года назад

Finally some libitarian callers are back, loved these back in the day, the first ever majority report video I watched was one.

@tylerhackner9731 2 года назад

And of course, libertarians seem to lack critical thinking

@docmalthus 2 года назад

Well, they're free from it. And everything else.

@possiblycurryddork 2 года назад

A good compromise would be to not tax your primary residence but to tax 15 to 30% any residential income generating property. This would discourage corporate hoarding of residential real estate.

@christopherreisner5043 2 года назад

I think James is on the right track. Eliminating or greatly reducing SOME property taxes would help stabilize property ownership for individuals and large increases in property tax for multi-home owners would make more homes available for individuals to own.

@marcning918 2 года назад

Why do they still think that they're the one person who can make their nonsense make sense. When they just regurgitate the same nonsense as the last one. This guy outright admitted he's heard other callers make these arguments then preceded to make the same argument with minimal difference.

@nikkilight2703 2 года назад

The speed at which I clicked

@hugoschkiglitz 2 года назад

YES!!! I was aching for another libertarian call for entertainment purposes!

@user-bk7ci7zr4d 2 года назад

So, he wants little to no government, and he doesn't want property tax, but he wants some kind of system in place that forces employers to pay their employees based off of some esoteric equation based off of the amount of money an employer extracts from their laborers. Right.

@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 2 года назад

Woo lolbertarian caller! It’s like Xmas has come early! 😂

@acdude5266 2 года назад

A young RU-vid skeptic names "Rationality Rules" describes libertarians as those who think they can shit in our water supply.

@jcdrnosecone 2 года назад

Hmmm sounds like my country. Australia. We already do all that except for the tax on second property

@patrickmcclure8040 2 года назад

This guy was well mannered enough and I think he has his head on straight enough. He'd be a comrade in a larger context if he'd stop calling himself a libertarian.

@Goshified 2 года назад

If there was a higher tax on properties, wouldn't the people that own rental houses just increase the rates proportionally?

@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis 2 года назад

"whatever we do we can't ever hold the capitalists responsible for what they do or they will make it worse" you folks are pathetic cowards who have driven this country off a cliff wth this nonsense

@worldnomad2301 2 года назад

How about we start by keeping landlords out of single family housing. Or at least cap it.

@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis 2 года назад

get rid of single family housing period.

@worldnomad2301 2 года назад

@@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis I’m not for that. But good on you

@1369Stiles 2 года назад

as someone who bought a house four and half years ago, its not the bed of roses people think it is. while i enjoy having my own property and being able to do what i want with it (within reason) without asking someone else permission is great, the cost of maintaining my home makes me wish i had gotten an apartment instead.

@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis 2 года назад

We have been in our house since 2011 and have spent less than 6 grand in that time. We replaced everything that needed to when we moved in, financed that with the mortgage and I have fixed a few things myself that would have cost a ton in labor. It's much better. I lived in multiple apartments where the landlord or owner of the property would just come in my apartment to make sure I was living to their standards.

@1369Stiles 2 года назад

@@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis and? i dont necessarily have a bad experience with my house either. it needs a few things done that im not in a financial position to fix. THATS my point. if i had gotten an apartment, those things would not be a concern for me. as to the living standards.......i dont know what kind of a life you lead, but how i live my life would literally not change if i had an apartment. i dont party; i dont have people coming and going all the time. i dont currently have a pet, but if i did it would only be a single cat. im not loud, so i dont need the space for that. so im not sure what kind of pain in the ass you are that you need to have a house instead of an apartment. i would also point out that not all apartments are bad and have bad owners, just as not all houses are great experiences. hell, i would rather deal with a nosy landlord than an hoa.

@horatiomh 2 года назад

He's describing Australia's property tax law. We have scarily rising property costs but property tax etc are tax deductible for landlords.

@fxlkpunkrapper 2 года назад

ooohh what a treat

@Kenjionigod 2 года назад

I think his main point is that houses should be affordable and that these companies shouldn't be able to buy up everything and charge these insane rents. But I think having nice socialized housing that is affordable, even if they don't necessarily owned outright, is kind of the solution. Then still having private housing for those that want to buy their own homes.

@priyaakajedimindtrickdrago1193 2 года назад

Is US property tax a one off payment like stamp duty in the UK?

@kodabro4322 2 года назад

Dude this guy is almost smart, definitely leagues ahead of any other libertarian caller absolutely. Hes got some holes in his logic, but it still feels a lot more well thought out then other right libertarians tend to be. My uncle told me to get rid of taxes for roads. I asked him if he wanted dirt roads or toll roads and who would pay for that

@soccerislife6108 2 года назад

I’m a conservative but love watching these libertarians debate hahah I was an edgy libertarian in my teens but it’s so painful to see grown men thinking you somehow don’t need a government lmao

@Flux_40 2 года назад

the next stage of your development is to feel compassion for a crying child , then you will be on your way to being a fully grown socialist .

@1962LIBBY 2 года назад

I demand that 16 minutes be added back to the end of my life.

@amandagarcia2848 2 года назад

Hey, cool! A fellow ibertarian socialist!

@douglasowens8027 2 года назад

Education is the best way to get equality

@Alex-cw3rz 2 года назад

Brilliant Video

@sooperheep 2 года назад

I got a hilarious Jordan Peterson commercial on this vid

@Ludd439 2 года назад

Cuba have a pretty good housing system, always better to look at real examples rather than hypothesize what could be.

@wraynephew6838 Месяц назад

People in Cuba are forced to buy food in ration portions. Not good.

@darkelwin02 2 года назад

People deserve housing according to their needs. It's simply a universal human righy

@KBosch-xp2ut 2 года назад

So no one should own a cabin in the woods? Why not? It’s not like it’s taking a home away from anyone…. no one wants to live where there are no schools and no jobs….

@CommieCrab 2 года назад

11:08 the libertarian quotes his favorite comic book character

@christopherdoyle3028 Год назад

“I have some trouble with past libertarian callers on your program” -every libertarian caller on the program

@Zhagg1 2 года назад

I think the caller is on the right track, but veering off a bit. If capital gains and RE income tax on investment properties (not primary residence) were so high that it would render investment properties unprofitable, investors would sell, dropping the prices of properties. The resulting tax revenue could be used to create non-profit gov lease programs for those who do not choose to purchase their homes. The above mentioned taxes can only be applied with the non-profit program in place, lest landlords pass the tax costs to renters.

@belkyhernandez8281 2 года назад

You can't modify your home if you lease it.

@wraynephew6838 Месяц назад

The problem is not property tax. The problem is the insane cost of living especially in a place like Manhattan NY. No city should be allowed to transform into a place where only the rich can survive. Rent needs to be regulated. No one should have to spend more than 25 percent of their net income on rent.

@michaelschwentner3458 2 года назад

To realize the libertarian dream of property ownership we need robust federal government involvement in local municipalities, lol

@ricardogomez9505 2 года назад

I think this caller does sound more left libertarian, which is what libertarian usually means outside the US.

@sandrafrancisco 2 года назад

it would be better to eliminate interest on a person's first residence.

@jaykay415 Год назад

Sam. In San Francisco, there is a constant stream of residential building, primarily high end high-rises. It's not that we don't have enough housing, it's that we don't have enough affordable housing. Yes, the government cuts deals to developers - if they create a certain number of affordable units, they get to build a higher building, for example. However, "affordable" is $120,000 per year, and one or two units in a midsize building in no way takes the edge off the housing problem. The real issue is that developers have no stake in the community and make deals with politicians to continue the golden money flow. *The fact is, there are enough rich people in this area that can bear the high cost of housing, so they keep building for those people.* Nobody is thinking about a healthy society being able to accommodate middle and working class people, again, in preference for expanding the capital reserves for the few.

@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence 2 года назад

I own over 400 acres with a single residence haha. If I stopped paying property tax I would bankrupt my entire town. Which IS NOT in my best interest.

@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis 2 года назад

That's how my parents place is and the country and town constantly try to levy new taxes to pay for crap the mayor decides they need. It's kind of a pita to deal with.

@mfbobyle6771 2 года назад

Damn I’m from southwest Colorado

@zeitxgeist Год назад

The funny thing is most issues could be resolved by increasing corporate taxes and closing loopholes that MNCs habitually exploit. You can lower income, property taxes, so much with it. NewsCorpse in Australia has paid no taxes for four years now, and with the profit they post each yeah, every single Australian could have been given $36k, each year, if they were taxed only ~5%.

@johndigirolamo5858 Год назад

We have school tax in Montreal.

@kingsaccountability 2 года назад

I actually liked this guy's idea and feel like I have similar ideals. Sam seemed to just want to trip him up in theoretical and exact details where the money is allocated and pulled from but those details are always malleable around the idea itself. I am floored at Sam's response seemingly pro for allowing the gov to own all housing and control all housing.

@justincoleman3805 2 года назад

So everyone gets a free doghouse? How do you legally define “home” in a way that prevents inequality? How do you prevent the insanely wealthy from having a much larger house than everyone else? Ya know, how it is now.