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Literally Toxic - The Bachelor Breakdown Matt's Season Week 4 RECAP 

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The Bachelor Season 25 returns with Week 4 and a whole lot of toxic drama to boot. So who will the Queen Victoria make it through another rose ceremony? Who are these new women arriving? How does Michelle do on her first 1 on 1? Why are all the women piling on Brittany? Do we all need virtual hugs right now? Check it out in this latest recap and breakdown for The Bachelor Season 25 Episode 4!
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@BachelorFantake
@BachelorFantake 3 года назад
Come on in. Get your virtual hug 🤗🤗🤗
@Beatbod
@Beatbod 3 года назад
Claims
@yangtsotenzin3767
@yangtsotenzin3767 3 года назад
🫂
@lulicheer
@lulicheer 3 года назад
I was waiting for this! Thank you!
@brandonbreuer6589
@brandonbreuer6589 3 года назад
Let's think positive, it's not to early to start the Katie for Bachelorette campaign.
@tara4336
@tara4336 3 года назад
I needed it after this episode :(
@olivialayne06
@olivialayne06 3 года назад
I’m not being over dramatic when I say that Anna accusing Brittany of being a escort based on nothing and being delighted to spread the rumor is one of the most malicious things I’ve seen a contestant do.
@cgill914
@cgill914 3 года назад
It was seriously horrible to watch that. I’ve never been so bothered by something I’ve watched on the Bachelor.
@valeriag9443
@valeriag9443 3 года назад
Yeah and she really didn’t take a second to think if it would affect Brittany after the show. It’s just incredibly evil
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
And on top of that, the producers thinking it’s a good idea to put it in air
@mmem4264
@mmem4264 3 года назад
Not mention how excited she was to spread it! And I swear producers (?) must be licking their lips to milk this drama for all it’s worth! Like wtflo.
@Christina-xc7on
@Christina-xc7on 3 года назад
She is BEAMING in all these clips. She's overjoyed to be so mean, it's so horrible to watch
@swayamsiddha15
@swayamsiddha15 3 года назад
victoria taking catalina's crown off was so disrespectful?! imagine entering a show and being literally bullied by a bunch of girls and it's because of something you couldn't even control.
@ccrisc100
@ccrisc100 3 года назад
I know. There's no way I would have been as composed as she was, I think it was just shock 😳
@alli2448
@alli2448 3 года назад
How was Catalina so calm?? I would’ve slapped her hand away!
@AmandaTitus85
@AmandaTitus85 3 года назад
@@ccrisc100 seriously I thought she must have been beside herself at that point. I would have thought it was a joke at first if this was the first interaction I had with these girls
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 3 года назад
Catalina looked so shocked too. You can tell she’s a well mannered person and just had no idea how to react.
@imapineapple15
@imapineapple15 3 года назад
And that's probably Catalina's real crown too which sucks even more because it's literally YOUR STUFF some bitch is stealing from you. It reminds me of the bullies that would take your hat and throw it to their friend while you tried to get it back.
@BritsdoDisney
@BritsdoDisney 3 года назад
Katie really needs to be the bachelorette. She’ll be straightforward, fun and serious about love. I would loooooove to watch her season.
@C6945Z
@C6945Z 3 года назад
YES! She’s the perfect amount of sympathy and confidence. I love her.
@ilovegoodsax
@ilovegoodsax 3 года назад
And at 29, she's a great (read: mature) age for the Bachelorette lead.
@alli2448
@alli2448 3 года назад
I agree!!
@AmandaTitus85
@AmandaTitus85 3 года назад
Honestly I am all for Katie after this episode. She is staying true to herself and is not tolerating this high school drama
@terriboucha4030
@terriboucha4030 3 года назад
And she seems so down to earth too 💗
@noellebailey7376
@noellebailey7376 3 года назад
I don’t think the producers realize that we are done with seeing women tear down other women. Or just people bullying in general.
@_JS__
@_JS__ 3 года назад
It always comes across as sexist to me that women on almost all seasons of The Bachelor are chosen to be dramatic and argumentative. We need more women supporting other women.
@sucram1015
@sucram1015 3 года назад
Right! Both the bachelor and bachelorette. These shows are all about petty drama and creating bullshit for someone that will pretty much send all home except maybe for one person.
@noellebailey7376
@noellebailey7376 3 года назад
@@_JS__ yes!! I actually commented again on this video saying the same thing! I mean just comparing this season to Tayshias, how much of the season w women contestants is just drama?! Totally sexist and feeding into the stereotype
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 3 года назад
None of this has been entertaining. It just makes you feel gross watching it. Things like Michelle and Matts date are the kind of things we want to see. Or matt dancing for Magi. A little natural drama is fine but this is so forced and really low.
@beasweetpea
@beasweetpea 3 года назад
It is all just so painful and upsetting. It hurts as a viewer to see this. I can't imagine the pain the contestants endure.
@lar.8168
@lar.8168 3 года назад
I've never disliked a girl on this show as much as I dislike Anna, not even Victoria or Peter's girls. The look on her face while she's ruining someone's life is vile.
@emilysheleski2066
@emilysheleski2066 3 года назад
Omg some people from my university know her and say she’s similar in person!
@Jacob-ip4yt
@Jacob-ip4yt 3 года назад
Anna is defs a bully and she better own up to her behaviour but girls like Victoria P and Sydney from Peters season were awful and blatantly bullied, lied and gas lit Alayah off the show and they never took accountability and the show protected them. Disgusting.
@hannah.shafer
@hannah.shafer 3 года назад
@@Jacob-ip4yt yes Victoria P was the all time worst
@Jacob-ip4yt
@Jacob-ip4yt 3 года назад
@@hannah.shafer Lol Victoria P blocked me on instagram cause i commented "remember when you bullied and gas lit Alayah on national television and never apologized?"
@Emster234
@Emster234 3 года назад
I knew she looked like gretchen Whitmer for a reason
@marykateniedziejko7595
@marykateniedziejko7595 3 года назад
When Katie is the only person in bachelor history to address a toxic environment to help improve other situations WITHOUT tattling and calling out specific ppl
@everlasting7thheaven
@everlasting7thheaven 3 года назад
Especially that she didn't do it in a way to flirt with him like "all the girls are toxic and spreading rumours, I am worried about you choosing the right person - me me me kiss me" kind of way. She did in in a serious worried friend way - hi we have a problem, take care of it. She did what the producers should have done.
@imaspecialgirllalala
@imaspecialgirllalala 3 года назад
@@everlasting7thheaven ABSOLUTELY. Or when in Colton’s season where each girl that got sent home kept saying “just watch out for some of the girls in the house” like SHUT UP LOL. I’m tired of PETTY drama, I want happy fun times where everyone is actually focused on finding love with the lead rather than focusing on shitting on each other.
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
They acting like Michelle was the one who picked MATT????? Its not what"you" think is fair; its what Matt thinks and apparently he's thinking of MICHELLE
@ccrisc100
@ccrisc100 3 года назад
I know. Girls are angry and taking it out on the girls when decisions are made by Matt and production. If you think it was so disrespectful to have Michelle on a one on one call him out on it. No? Didn't think so, all bark no bite and no spine. Typical bullies.
@thegoldenhost
@thegoldenhost 3 года назад
Right? At this point, they should realize that Matt picked this girl because he sees something in her he doesn’t see in them. Which isn’t surprising given that most of these girls are immature and rude.
@electricladyland4421
@electricladyland4421 3 года назад
it’s weird, like they all think they’re the bachelor🙃
@jenniferhansen3622
@jenniferhansen3622 3 года назад
His date with Michelle was the best thing about the episode.
@milenayashkina8641
@milenayashkina8641 3 года назад
And they're all talking about the new girls being "disrespectful" when they don't even know the definition of respect themselves, lmao... The irony.
@kyliefewell6010
@kyliefewell6010 3 года назад
If Katie isn’t the bachelorette I’ll be genuinely upset. She’s the ONLY girl that we’ve seen stick up for the women being picked on, she 100% deserves it the most. She’s mature, fun, sweet. She’d be a phenomenal bachelorette
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
They are gonna try and shove Abigail at us and after this week i wasn't feeling her anymore. Katie or no-one at all
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 3 года назад
If she isnt the bachelorette...maybe it means she won and is engaged to the bachelor.
@OfficialPrettyLittleLiars
@OfficialPrettyLittleLiars 3 года назад
Katie is the mature woman I for some reason thought MJ. Happy Katie is a great person and sad that MJ turned out to be one of the mean girls
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
They’re all mean girls in my eyes. Bystanders are just as bad. You laugh along, you don’t say anything you just make it worse. I can only genuinely like Katie with a good conscience and all the new girls of course.
@ilovegoodsax
@ilovegoodsax 3 года назад
MJ is 23 and Katie is 29. That explains a lot about the level of maturity.
@carolinagonzalez8513
@carolinagonzalez8513 3 года назад
This is literally exactly what I thought MJ is so disappointing
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
@@ilovegoodsax I'm 24 and I had a better head on my shoulders when I was in high school. Age doesn't define maturity, attitude and upbringing does.
@ilovegoodsax
@ilovegoodsax 3 года назад
@@ReneeTopanga You may have been but honey, even at 24 your brain isn't fully developed to its maturity.
@Looooading...
@Looooading... 3 года назад
I want Tayshia to give everyone a tutorial on how to be the lead before their seasons start
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
I approve this idea😂
@ezpg3d860
@ezpg3d860 3 года назад
well its easier for her becasue she dont have petty men someone like sean or nick should help matt
@kiteride8674
@kiteride8674 3 года назад
@@ezpg3d860 There we’re definitely petty men on her season (Ed, Chasen, Bennett), but she knew how to handle it and shut it down quickly. I’m surprised Matt didn’t address it after Sarah told him about the bullying. He could have shut it down way earlier.
@clementine1827
@clementine1827 3 года назад
@Info Tech saying “I do not tolerate bullying” isn’t putting anger out there tho. This season is just so sad to watch. I’ve only been watching recaps now because I can’t sit through it
@rayraypeace9589
@rayraypeace9589 3 года назад
@Info Tech completely agree. I was thinking the same thing. If it was a female lead she would march out there in a minute and give them the business. If a man did the same thing, people would lose their minds. BUT he still could (and hopefully does) address it without having the same attitude that a female lead could get away with. He could tell them that bullying is something he won’t tolerate, without sounding like he’s just being a big angry man.
@LizMSanchez
@LizMSanchez 3 года назад
Crazy how Victoria is calling Miss Universe Puerto Rico “the dumbest bitch” when she’s actually a lawyer licensed in 3 states, a book author and a REAL QUEEN
@reneej2488
@reneej2488 3 года назад
Right!!
@Salma-yo6ns
@Salma-yo6ns 3 года назад
👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾
@RetRo0._.jebE06
@RetRo0._.jebE06 3 года назад
Really don’t understand why she came on the show , they do not deserve her time
@swayamsiddha15
@swayamsiddha15 3 года назад
katie is literally so compassionate and kind and it's so sad to see these traits missing in most of the other girls.
@pourladentelle
@pourladentelle 3 года назад
I know. It amazes me tht there are soo many women, record breaking, yet only one has the balls to stand up against the narcissist.
@rebeccathomas6858
@rebeccathomas6858 3 года назад
Washington represent
@Daphpunk100
@Daphpunk100 3 года назад
@@pourladentelle the show will show you whatever they want. It's heavly edicted.
@swarley30
@swarley30 3 года назад
The real villains here are the producers for encouraging this nonsense and toxic soup.
@msbrownsuga
@msbrownsuga 3 года назад
Absolutely!
@phoenixgirl70
@phoenixgirl70 3 года назад
Exactly. Because they are telling them to talk about certain people, they are promoting this thinking it’s funny like the movie Mean Girls which was a smart and insightful comedy with actors not real people. Like how many women are behind the scenes on this show going “yeah, we want people to perceive us as absolute bitches” when it’s what most women have been trying to fight against that stereotype. I can’t watch the show, but Fantake is just amazing with his edits and he GETS IT!
@jinzhang8241
@jinzhang8241 3 года назад
I agree. This was the final straw. My friends and I are going to boycott this show. It's just too negative and toxic. The only way ABC will realize they crossed the line is when it hits them in the ratings and their bottom line.
@VictoriousSage
@VictoriousSage 3 года назад
Ding, ding, ding! Victoria is their little plant, poisoning the bunch. This season and Tayshia's are night and day.
@user-cl6uj5bn2f
@user-cl6uj5bn2f 3 года назад
💯
@mitchellekwangwari1073
@mitchellekwangwari1073 3 года назад
The producer involvement this season is HORRIBLE. I feel like Matt had the potential to be a good lead but the drama with the women just contaminates the season.
@beasweetpea
@beasweetpea 3 года назад
This season is so upsetting. I am so upset with the producers. The show is almost unbearable to watch because of how cruel Victoria and the others are. This isn't entertaining "drama"; it's straight cruelty. Behavior like this shouldn't be rewarded with endless screen time. :(
@beasweetpea
@beasweetpea 3 года назад
I tried to think this through as "a trick of editing" but there's so much overwhelming cruelty being said that in any context shit is just outright cruel. :(
@caitlinflint893
@caitlinflint893 3 года назад
Peter 2.0
@arianabravo8865
@arianabravo8865 3 года назад
Lol they could tell Matt would be drama free so they supplemented the drama
@dianajanna7228
@dianajanna7228 3 года назад
Yeah! Like Abigail is not as innocent or as nice as she appears. The producers are editing her out of the drama because they want to give her the bachelorette treatment or because she’s going to get far with Matt. But in the scene when Victoria is telling Brittany that she should just leave, Victoria looks at Abigail and they laugh all mean girl and shit. That’s not ok!
@letsdohairandmakeup
@letsdohairandmakeup 3 года назад
I feel like Matt's been awkward with every other girl but Michelle, they're so good together!!
@ilovegoodsax
@ilovegoodsax 3 года назад
Yes, there's definitely a ton of chemistry between the two. It would come as no surprise if he picks Michelle in the end.
@User1Mac
@User1Mac 3 года назад
Yes and Sarah. But she with G easy now
@bellaszymanski5877
@bellaszymanski5877 3 года назад
ilovegoodsax him and racheal also have a great connection. definitely michelle and rachel for top two!!
@taesmani
@taesmani 3 года назад
Michelle and Bri in my opinion.
@sandrinemarie5968
@sandrinemarie5968 3 года назад
@@User1Mac Sarah talked about that, she said it’s not true. She is not dating G easy
@jackiegirl104
@jackiegirl104 3 года назад
they said there was a record number of women wanting to be on this season and THESE are the ones they chose???
@oliviahowell5180
@oliviahowell5180 3 года назад
Quantity over quality? Lol
@thatssoapril405
@thatssoapril405 3 года назад
said it best
@LaciRae
@LaciRae 3 года назад
Brittney is gorgeous.
@gertrudeagbesi3518
@gertrudeagbesi3518 3 года назад
That was my thought exactly when watching this recap. Record applications and this is what we get. So disappointed in the show.
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 3 года назад
Its a way to lie and make the fanbase not seem racist. Get a black bachelor...but the plainest women in history to be his potential mates.
@cy583
@cy583 3 года назад
At this point, Matt is a side character in his own season and rather than focusing on romance and love connections, the show is focused on bullying and toxicity. Last nights episode and the one prior were disgusting to watch. The behavior of Anna, MJ, Victoria, and every girl on the group of “OGs” talking trash about the “newbies” when Katie spoke up during the date all need to go home.
@gloriaj1401
@gloriaj1401 3 года назад
I agree
@thedarkphoenix1640
@thedarkphoenix1640 3 года назад
Your honestly completely right
@patchouleigh_
@patchouleigh_ 3 года назад
He's a side character because unfortunately his personality isn't coming across through the cameras. Producers got desparate.
@cy583
@cy583 3 года назад
@@patchouleigh_ lol i thought the same thing. unfortunately, we haven't really learned much about Matt other than what was in his episode 1 montage and that he likes turtles
@sucram1015
@sucram1015 3 года назад
That's how these shows are. They're not about love, they're about drama and petty bullshit.
@sarahoneal9852
@sarahoneal9852 3 года назад
I really didn’t think it was possible for me to dislike a cast more than I disliked Peter’s cast, but...here we are. Don’t get me wrong, some of these women are real gems, but why are so many of these girls immature, toxic bullies? Bachelor Producers, bullying isn’t the “drama” we want. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@paulojrneto
@paulojrneto 3 года назад
Peter's cast as a whole was dislikeable. This cast at least some bright spots.
@kendragalvan590
@kendragalvan590 3 года назад
You would think production would hold themselves to a higher standard after Peter’s horrible season & the success of Tayshia’s
@rochelleeidt8916
@rochelleeidt8916 3 года назад
And you know these terrible bullying women are all gonna be on Paradise for the drama and we'll be stuck listening to it again
@ELApollo66
@ELApollo66 3 года назад
The whole gaggle of them unironically calling themselves the varsity squad and the cackling about it was such an instant turnoff from a huge chunk of the cast.
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
I don’t see any gems other than Victoria and the new girls. Every girl smiles and laughs along to what Anna and Victoria say. Bystanders are just as bad. And some of the people that people see as good and genuine have also made remarks it’s just all gross
@emilywolfe7027
@emilywolfe7027 3 года назад
i just don’t understand how grown women can act like that when they know they’re being filmed for national television???
@rhondayearwood6815
@rhondayearwood6815 3 года назад
I will send them home.
@jinzhang8241
@jinzhang8241 3 года назад
It's simple - the more toxic you are, the more publicity you get.
@WildShiversASMR
@WildShiversASMR 3 года назад
@@jinzhang8241 It's true, but is it really worth it when now they have to limit all of the comments on their social media and make their accounts private because everyone rightfully hates them... I wonder
@stymiedagain
@stymiedagain 3 года назад
Plus they have to know Matt will see the footage of them eventually. Even if they fooled him long enough to get a proposal, the engagement would surely end, once he learns what they’re really like.
@pluto31337
@pluto31337 3 года назад
Right. How embarrassing
@Caerise
@Caerise 3 года назад
This season literally has some of the most malicious and disgusting creatures I've ever seen as contestants. Also I'll say it again: Katie is the most decent person in that house to me. She's the only one standing up to the bullies and pulling the victims aside to hear their side of the story and give them a helping hand. She has so much compassion and strength. She's definitely getting a great edit on the show, so I hope that means she'll end up becoming the mature bachelorette we all deserve.
@jenna127
@jenna127 3 года назад
It's honestly so frustrating at this point how much the producers focus on selling all of this mean spirited bullying as entertaining television. A lot of these women seem really despicable (like Victoria, Anna, MJ, etc.) in how they've been acting, but I also get the sense that there are some probably really genuine women on the show that they haven't been focusing on enough. Obviously Katie has really stood out as someone who is classy, but additionally some other women like Bri, Rachel, Magi, Serena, Abigail, and now Michelle seem to be staying out of all of this (at least from the way it's edited). I don't doubt that they have less horrible footage to show, but clearly the producers have not learned anything from how well Tayshia's season went. I really don't know if I can stand watching an episode all about shaming a woman for potentially being an escort. Edit: I'm also not saying it's always okay to be a bystander, and in an ideal situation all of the women who haven't really been involved in this would be more like Katie and try to stop the bullying, but I could very much see how, if they're trying to stay out of the drama, it'd be a lot less clear to them what was actually going on. As the audience we're presented with a pretty clear narrative of 'good guy, bad guy', and we see conversations that not all the other women get to see, but at the same time we DON'T see a lot of stuff. Essentially, on such a heavily edited show it's a lot easier to judge actions (like Victoria being overall despicable and Katie being an upstander), compared to inactions.
@angelicaschuyler9349
@angelicaschuyler9349 3 года назад
I don’t know about Rachel. I heard she posted pro-police content on her insta story and QAnon conspiracy theories.
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
Idk if we were watching the same show but Serena said some stuff and all these girls did laugh along when awful stuff went down. Bystanders are just as bad period.
@sxzane5545
@sxzane5545 3 года назад
i think she might’ve meant Serena P (the one that went on a one on one with matt) instead of Serena C (the one who kept talking about the new girls and just being really mean in general)
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
@@sxzane5545 No Serena P is the one I'm referring to. She made multiple comments this episode and when one of the new girls was asking for respect during that sit down before the final group date Serena rolled her eyes in response, you can catch it.
@johnbishop7572
@johnbishop7572 3 года назад
@@angelicaschuyler9349 what’s wrong with pro police content?
@klw8173
@klw8173 3 года назад
I had high hopes for this season but now it’s just...gag. Can’t we just have episodes with Matt and Michelle’s date and other rational adults?
@gdesiree29
@gdesiree29 3 года назад
It's unhealthy and toxic
@EllDuclos
@EllDuclos 3 года назад
The most toxic group of girls. I’m so over this season. If the producers were trying to do something here, they failed.
@victoriad8767
@victoriad8767 3 года назад
Idk dude peters season was pretty bad
@EllDuclos
@EllDuclos 3 года назад
@@victoriad8767 the girls on here are just as bad and some are even worse.
@elseby
@elseby 3 года назад
You mean make the first non-white Bachelor season bad? No they didn't fail at all.
@EllDuclos
@EllDuclos 3 года назад
@@elseby I feel like they were trying to add drama and I wish they didn’t. Victoria seems like an overly produced character. How can someone act like that in real life? It’s ridiculous. Most of these girls are all mean like a repeat of Peter’s season.
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 3 года назад
There are some really great girls in this group too but we’re not getting to see them because of the constant mean girl drama.
@isabellarain_
@isabellarain_ 3 года назад
When Victoria said “then get out of the house” we see a person laughing with her but their face is cropped out (which was Abigail). We’ve seen that she participated in the Sarah drama and laughing with Victoria does not give her a good image. I think producers are trying to give her a good edit for a chance at bachelorette.
@phoenixgirl70
@phoenixgirl70 3 года назад
Oh yes the franchise trying to make up for this dumpster fire and their fake inclusiveness would give themselves HUGE pats on the back “The first. Deaf. Bachelorette. EVER.”
@megan123copper
@megan123copper 3 года назад
i noticed this too, im so sad and disappointed
@thatssoapril405
@thatssoapril405 3 года назад
IT WONT WORK ON ME #katieforbachlorette
@Levelheads4421
@Levelheads4421 3 года назад
Yeah, I was super disappointed to realize she was laughing along with Victoria. I imagine she’s not mean herself, but it sucks to see that she’s encouraging it
@adannabritto2776
@adannabritto2776 3 года назад
Glad I wasn't the only one that notice it
@cerisebiscuit51
@cerisebiscuit51 3 года назад
Since Matt clearly won’t do it, I’ll do: “Katie, may I have your hand in marriage please 🥺”
@brandonbreuer6589
@brandonbreuer6589 3 года назад
I don't think Katie is going to win, but she should be a shoo-in for bachelorette.
@cgill914
@cgill914 3 года назад
Seriously, it’s like she’s the only one with a good head on her shoulders in the “OG” group. I really respected the way she handled things this episode.
@cerisebiscuit51
@cerisebiscuit51 3 года назад
@@brandonbreuer6589 if she’s gonna be bachelorette I’ll have to read up on their application guidelines. Do you think they’ll accept a non-american woman?
@Flo_etic
@Flo_etic 3 года назад
@@cerisebiscuit51 i am wondering the exact same thing. That woman is everything
@trishgarrison444
@trishgarrison444 3 года назад
@@cerisebiscuit51 kaitlyn Bristowe is Canadian so I would assume so
@eriel4818
@eriel4818 3 года назад
Wasn’t there a literal segment on Peter’s season of the bachelor about bullying?? Why is this show continuing to condone this behavior by giving these girls all the screen time??? Their behavior is disgusting and scary
@agg150
@agg150 3 года назад
You are correct, which is why they will promote it now to get $$$$ and then act shocked and appalled at the women tell all to feel better about themselves.
@jareya
@jareya 3 года назад
truly disgusting
@Ola-ts9ny
@Ola-ts9ny 3 года назад
yes!!!
@HeatherLynseyMusic
@HeatherLynseyMusic 3 года назад
I have said that a thousand times. I won’t watch again, just recaps like this. Something needs to be done, at some point views shouldn’t matter and this type of behavior needs to be shut down.
@kaylan2083
@kaylan2083 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly. Producers thought they could take the high road and bring up bullying during that segment and they go right back into that BS and green-light all the bullying for drama. 🙄
@beccabraiman
@beccabraiman 3 года назад
Thank you for calling out the sex work-shaming and rumor-spreading . It’s unacceptable that production included all of that in the episode. It’s not just mean-spirited, it’s a safety concern!
@Steakfrites352
@Steakfrites352 3 года назад
ABC and the Bachelor producers really need to answer for this whole “escort” narrative. As was said in the video, it’s dangerous and wildly exploitative wether it’s true or not. It’s not something that should be tossed around for drama.
@raven2536
@raven2536 3 года назад
This. They should've just cut it.
@CandleAshes
@CandleAshes 3 года назад
My fiancé is only vaguely aware of what's going on because I watch the show and he catches glimpses of it here and there and he walked into the living room last night, saw Victoria, stopped in his tracks, and went: "WHY IS SHE STILL HERE!?!?!?!?!??!" Even a casual observer is sick of this girl
@AnimaKinz
@AnimaKinz 3 года назад
My husband broke his hip, so he's mostly immobile. This is the first time I could force- erm, convince him to watch the show with me. He was literally screaming at the TV by show's end. X-D
@CandleAshes
@CandleAshes 3 года назад
@@AnimaKinz I hope he gets better soon! Poor thing 😹
@AnimaKinz
@AnimaKinz 3 года назад
@CandleAshes Thank you. No word yet on whether the show will be a help or detriment to his recovery.
@kimberlywolcott8117
@kimberlywolcott8117 3 года назад
Katie shutting Victoria down (when Victoria asked for an apology) had to be the highlight of this episode for me. I would be thrilled if Katie were to become the next bachelorette.
@AnnikaAvenue
@AnnikaAvenue 3 года назад
I wish Katie said, "Let me get this straight. You want me to apologize to you because I asked you to stop calling a girl who is no longer here to defend herself trash?"
@linhle101
@linhle101 3 года назад
Did anyone not catch the part where Victoria said “then get out of the house to Britney” and laughed and looked at Abigail and it sounded like Abigail also laughed. They didn’t show of course cause she’s a fan fav and in the running for bachelorette? 🤷🏻‍♀️
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
Yup. I see all these “fan favourites” laughing and smiling along to the things Victoria and her squad say. It’s a house full of mean girls with the exception of Katie and the new girls.
@esmeraldac.3270
@esmeraldac.3270 3 года назад
THISSSSS, so sad to hear Abigail laugh and condone that type of talk
@alenaisabel5309
@alenaisabel5309 3 года назад
Maybe she laughed because of how uncomfortable of a situation this was. Many people don't know how to act when other people are being rude to someone else and just don't want the attention to be towards them. Like what happened with Katie when she stood up for Sarah, Victoria starting attacking her. Im not saying that Abigail is perfect, but maybe there is another explanation to this.
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
@@alenaisabel5309 This isn't the first time she's laughed. You see group-wide shots and she'll be laughing or smiling in the corner to a shitty comment.
@alenaisabel5309
@alenaisabel5309 3 года назад
@@ReneeTopanga Oh haha I must have missed that. I was just trying to show that there might have been more going on in that situation.
@sorachicken
@sorachicken 3 года назад
I love how *NOT-TOXIC* this community is. Thank you for bemoaning such horrible behavior, Bachelor Fantake! Love Michelle & Katie. Our little islands of kindness & sanity amidst the headaches from much of the rest of the cast.
@UnCreativeBeliever
@UnCreativeBeliever 3 года назад
Don’t forget Abagail
@iansurya2985
@iansurya2985 3 года назад
@@UnCreativeBeliever sorry bethany but abigail also laughed and smile when victoria says something nasty like 11.45 mark in this video, i know some ppl says its nervous laugh or smile or idk what to do smile or its the editing , but clearly the only girl that stood up only katie
@tyrabandz2845
@tyrabandz2845 3 года назад
matt seems to be a nice guy so the relationships with the women look nice. However with Michelle it really seems like they’re a match. I haven’t seen that amount of chemistry with the other girls
@mbs811
@mbs811 3 года назад
Agreed!
@liliumaura4369
@liliumaura4369 3 года назад
The level of contempt he has for Victoria is sending me
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
I wish Matt shared it
@brandonbreuer6589
@brandonbreuer6589 3 года назад
Imagine the producers interviewing Victoria for the show and being like "YUP, THIS IS THE ONE"
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
I bet it was a 5 minute conversation and they cast her
@giallotine
@giallotine 3 года назад
rumor is that the producers actually found victoria... tragic
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 3 года назад
This is no different from other seasons where they keep the bitchy one around just for the sake of drama and stalling until their dramatic dismissal and exit.
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
@@maximusprime3459 it's not different but it's definitely worse
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 3 года назад
@@Jobother They're just sticking to formula. This year its just a little Mocca flavored.
@ashleycotterell5419
@ashleycotterell5419 3 года назад
I am physically sick to my stomach and so disgusted after watching this episode. Any chance of liking Matt or being invested in his journey now is just long gone. It is so uncomfortable to watch these girls treat each other they way they have, because the producers knowingly picked THESE people to come on the show. Even if something did come out of left field - they see and hear what the girls are saying. They just don't care.
@christinenicole1884
@christinenicole1884 3 года назад
If Matt doesn't get rid of at least Vic, Anna, and MJ this coming week, I will loose all respect for him tbh
@leeeyannn
@leeeyannn 3 года назад
why does anna talk like shes speaking into a fan lmaoo
@zabercrombie24
@zabercrombie24 3 года назад
Why does she clinch her damn teeth when she talks ? Drives me batshit
@GLADGC
@GLADGC 3 года назад
@@zabercrombie24 she is this emoji 😬
@User1Mac
@User1Mac 3 года назад
Try talking without your bottom or top lips touching each other. That is Anna’s life
@daisyflorez743
@daisyflorez743 3 года назад
I was looking for this comment lol
@SherryEllesson
@SherryEllesson 3 года назад
@@zabercrombie24 auditioning for a vampire movie, maybe?
@thejaneplane
@thejaneplane 3 года назад
Theory 1: When people aren't allowed to read, learn, access diverse entertainment, or leave, and are instead forced to focus on one topic, they can get really, really mean and vengeful towards one another. References: The Salem Witch Trials, the Bachelor Theory 2: Some people just suck References: see previous
@averyaxford
@averyaxford 3 года назад
Yes I believe that this is true but I also believe that these women could also be awful people and I would never want to interact with them.
@thejaneplane
@thejaneplane 3 года назад
@@averyaxford true, you can't bring evil out unless it was there to begin with
@ceeaich
@ceeaich 3 года назад
For sure. The pressure cooker brought out a lot of ugliness :p
@kat8559
@kat8559 3 года назад
I don't think you know anything about the salem witch trials lmao
@thejaneplane
@thejaneplane 3 года назад
I saw @@kat8559 with the Devil!
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
Damn Victoria just keeps getting worse and worse. She's like the embodiment of Fergie singing the national amthem amd her twits aren't helping. I think I'd rather watch Peter's season than this garbage
@hindwidad2723
@hindwidad2723 3 года назад
She's the least attractive one out of the girls too. I don't get it 😂
@carolineshaw1532
@carolineshaw1532 3 года назад
She's very unattractive both in looks & personality!! I can't imagine having to spend time around her!!👎👎
@alli2448
@alli2448 3 года назад
Her personality is just disgusting. Normally whenever they have villains I end up liking them, but with her I can’t see myself liking her, and Anna,..ever.
@missm2925
@missm2925 3 года назад
She reminds me of the girls who bullied me in highschool. I assume Victoria peaked in highschool and the rest of her life was just downhill
@janeryan2709
@janeryan2709 3 года назад
SERIOUSLY! Give us Peter back, honestly!
@kubscouture
@kubscouture 3 года назад
Why does nobody talk about the fact that a lot of the other girls are enabling their mean girl behavior?
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
Exactly! I made a comment about it and they just kept saying "but I like Michelle" "Michelle is good for Matt" And I'm like idc she did nothing to stop it so idc. They can have a relationship, but I just don't care for anyone but Katie
@bt2598
@bt2598 3 года назад
This drama is so disgusting and toxic. I just feel like ABC needs to be held accountable because they are endorsing this bullying for ratings. It's so disappointing and just disgusting - I have no words.
@tebowdavis15
@tebowdavis15 3 года назад
Controversial theory: we haven't seen much of Abigail because she was involved way more into the drama and is getting a better edit. Evidence: 11:42 the person laughing with Victoria after her "get out of the house" comment is Abigail 😬
@AndreaGonzalez-hz4jx
@AndreaGonzalez-hz4jx 3 года назад
I thought that too! Very uncharacteristic of her, but maybe she is a mean girl and we don’t know it 🤷🏻‍♀️
@fobpatdrkcgp
@fobpatdrkcgp 3 года назад
YES I saw her shoulder and I was trynna figure out who was laughing when Victoria said that-I am so disappointed, I really liked her
@StormyKid27
@StormyKid27 3 года назад
This could also apply to Rachael
@leeeyannn
@leeeyannn 3 года назад
ty!! i was wondering who laughed beside victoria
@mellowhamster
@mellowhamster 3 года назад
:000 omg
@jessday4712
@jessday4712 3 года назад
Dude the girls on this season are so freaking vicious. Then when they say crap like “I love us” after crapping on other girls maliciously. What the heck. And even Abigail was laughing when Victoria was being pure evil. Horrible.
@milenayashkina8641
@milenayashkina8641 3 года назад
I feel like the girls who aren't directly causing the drama are waiting for Katie to handle people like Victoria and Anna and get them sent home so that they can swoop in for Matt... Katie is doing God's work and we have no choice but to stan.
@amandatidey5751
@amandatidey5751 3 года назад
I think I am the only person that doesn't like Abigail but I don't understand why people are obsessed with her.. She was apart of the mob mentality attacking Sarah and you can see the producers cut her out of Victoria and her making fun of Brittany but could still see it was her. But I guess we'll see, or not because producers only show what they want..
@mbs811
@mbs811 3 года назад
Yeah producers are giving her a good edit for some reason. But yeah I think she's not the angel everyone thinks she is.
@sarabaq1960
@sarabaq1960 3 года назад
💯
@iansurya2985
@iansurya2985 3 года назад
11:41 mark thats everything you need to see, the only editing done there is her face so her image in the bach nation is pure
@KristinaNorman
@KristinaNorman 3 года назад
She's getting the Bachelorette Edit :)
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
I dont like her either
@sammyalcantara5932
@sammyalcantara5932 3 года назад
Anna is such a bully for spreading unsubstantiated rumors!
@isabelhaupenthal9417
@isabelhaupenthal9417 3 года назад
And even if they are true - who cares
@rachiewoo6973
@rachiewoo6973 3 года назад
@@isabelhaupenthal9417 everyone. That’s why we’re still talking about it
@isabelhaupenthal9417
@isabelhaupenthal9417 3 года назад
@@rachiewoo6973 but sex workers shouldnt be shamed / villianized for their work
@Thatgradgirl
@Thatgradgirl 3 года назад
@@rachiewoo6973 No it's literally just you that cares if she is. Even if it is true, it's not on Anna to tell everyone. That would be up to Brittany and the ONLY person she should have to disclose that to is Matt.
@reneej2488
@reneej2488 3 года назад
Personally, if someone doesn’t want to be characterized as a sex worker, that’s their prerogative and it does not mean they’re shaming sex workers.
@mattlastname1869
@mattlastname1869 3 года назад
we don’t deserve bachelor fantake, he rewatched this episode for us
@IAmNotNicolex
@IAmNotNicolex 3 года назад
When Fantake says “what a horrible/repugnant thing...” it’s actually him wanting to curse someone out for allowing this to go on and honestly... felt.
@marinaschuh1165
@marinaschuh1165 3 года назад
I can’t believe these girls and their entitlement. Matt can spend his time and give his roses out to WHOEVER! HE! WANTS! I’m grossed out by this immaturity......also...I LOVE MICHELLE!!! I was skeptical of her being your top pick but after this episode I am convinced he’ll pick her in the end :))
@cgill914
@cgill914 3 года назад
I love Michelle too! So glad she is on the show. A lot of the other girls could learn from watching her.
@Kiranzya
@Kiranzya 3 года назад
Victoria snatching the crown like she snatched those items out of the store
@TT-po7dj
@TT-po7dj 3 года назад
I think she was gonna steal it until she remembered that other people were there lol
@oliviarose3841
@oliviarose3841 3 года назад
Peter’s season: thirsty wannabe influencers Matt’s season: Mean Girls feat. The knock off version of Tori Kelly, Evil Veneer Chomp girl & (the ring leader of them all) Ick-toria 🥴 Anyone else ready to just give up on the franchise??? 😅
@oliviarose3841
@oliviarose3841 3 года назад
@Lamar ACTION Jackson YES 👏🏼 like can the REALLLL queen (Tayshia) come and give these ladies a lesson on love and compassion and class?! Ugh even tho the La Quinta resort was trash, the cast and (2nd) lead were *chefs kiss*
@Christina-xc7on
@Christina-xc7on 3 года назад
I hoped that Matt being new blood would help root the show in reality but I think all hope is lost for the Bachelor. Bachelorettes only until the producers learn a big lesson!
@julespools
@julespools 3 года назад
That’s why I still like the Bachelorette because I think it at least feels more genuine. I officially hate the Bachelor because it’s so blatantly obvious that most of these girls come on it for fame. Too many of the girls are just so catty it’s crazy, like does no one believe in women supporting women anymore? It’s actually so unbearable to watch and makes me disgusted that the show promotes this kind of behavior
@xoJulia16xo
@xoJulia16xo 3 года назад
“Knock off version of Tori Kelly” lmao!
@madslight
@madslight 3 года назад
The fact that Peter's season was more tolerable than this trash says so much I literally didn't think it could get worse but it did
@debkunkel5840
@debkunkel5840 3 года назад
"I apologize to all three year olds..." Perfect.
@Tarasyoutube
@Tarasyoutube 3 года назад
Idk Victoria had a really cute 3 yr old look in her eye right as he said that in the video 😊
@ilovegoodsax
@ilovegoodsax 3 года назад
The chemistry between Matt and Michelle leaps off the TV screen! It's undeniable. I'm choosing Michelle as the last woman standing at the end of Matt's journey.
@xkaleidosaurusx
@xkaleidosaurusx 3 года назад
The definitive best part of this episode was the hot air balloon operator crouching down in the tiny little basket so they should get a nice wide shot of Matt and Michelle making out. Guy deserves a raise.
@annabates6060
@annabates6060 3 года назад
Lol I was thinking the same thing. Those baskets aren’t very big at all.
@ccrisc100
@ccrisc100 3 года назад
Two guys. Don't forget the cameraman
@robync9058
@robync9058 3 года назад
my stupid ass was looking at them "alone" in the basket and seeing the ropes on top of the balloon like "omg that's so dangerous!"
@kitkat2114
@kitkat2114 3 года назад
Anna has instagram comments limited right now too, I guess she can dish nasty comments but can't take them
@gingerwretched3320
@gingerwretched3320 3 года назад
That's weird? She should just make her account private
@iL0VEPH0
@iL0VEPH0 3 года назад
11:41 wait...did Abbigail laugh with Victoria when she said "Then get out he house." 😐
@milenayashkina8641
@milenayashkina8641 3 года назад
Yup (._.)
@milenayashkina8641
@milenayashkina8641 3 года назад
@@iansurya2985 I think it's cuz Abigail makes it far this season so they want to paint her in a good light, but they clearly didn't care that much when we all saw who she was sitting next to...
@kirbs702
@kirbs702 3 года назад
We have no choice but to STAN Katie
@CR014
@CR014 3 года назад
Anyone else just super happy to see a real deep conversation between Matt and Michelle? Feels like I haven’t seen a lot of that in this or last season of the bachelor.
@emilychristine25
@emilychristine25 3 года назад
"Welcome back to another edition of 'Why Am I Watching This If It Makes Me So Angry They Don't Even Give Abigail Screen Time And I'm Really Just Here For Katie Who I Know Matt Isn't Going To Pick Anyways'!" Waaaaaay too accurate...
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
If they gave Abigail more screen time you’d see she was laughing along to Victoria’s jokes 🙄 you can catch it. They just want to make her a fan fave so they could possibly pitch the first deaf bachelorette when she’s made remarks and been seen laughing along to the mean comments.
@tjc2121
@tjc2121 3 года назад
@@ReneeTopanga yeah I've noticed her laughing at Victoria's antics
@sukhmangill
@sukhmangill 3 года назад
@@ReneeTopanga omg yesss she’s like one of the mean girls if she doesn’t say anything she plays along which is the same 🤮🤮 I liked her before but not now. Katie is like the only good one.
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
@@sukhmangill Yes! Even if she's not constantly being the one saying it she's just as bad laughing along and provoking/condoning the behaviour. It's one thing if Victoria was being an awful person but the fact that more people aren't shutting her down give her more fake power and it's clearly making her worse b/c she genuinely thinks people like it because of people like Abigail who laugh along. Just disappointing b/c so many girls this season seem nice but the bystander effect is NOT cute on any of these girls.
@emilychristine25
@emilychristine25 3 года назад
@@ReneeTopanga Oh my goodness you're right! Ugh don't like that
@outspoken5808
@outspoken5808 3 года назад
This season could be a psychological case study for group think and mob mentality. I swear after this episode we are in Lord of the Flies territory.
@brookepage3752
@brookepage3752 3 года назад
I hope Anna realizes how harmful those kinds of rumors can be. That must have been devastating for Brittany to hear :(
@Elena-hv3lk
@Elena-hv3lk 3 года назад
did anyone notice that at 11:40 when Victoria said that, Abigal is the one next to her that laughed 😢
@avapoole5834
@avapoole5834 3 года назад
Oh my....
@brandonbreuer6589
@brandonbreuer6589 3 года назад
Name a more evil duo than Anna and Victoria...you can't do it.
@missm2925
@missm2925 3 года назад
Let’s bet on murder
@yadiilove7509
@yadiilove7509 3 года назад
Victoria paul and sydney from peter’s season come close though 🥴
@jinzhang8241
@jinzhang8241 3 года назад
Hitler and Mussolini?
@MissSkyscraper
@MissSkyscraper 3 года назад
This should be titled “Shitting on Fake-Toria for fifteen minutes because she sucks” lol
@NusaPikaBoo
@NusaPikaBoo 3 года назад
Hey. Have anyone noticed that when Victoria said to Britanny something like: "then get out of the house" she turned to Abigail (Abigail was out of the frame) and started laughing with her? Not a great look for Abigail...
@mbs811
@mbs811 3 года назад
Agreed!
@justpassingby_600
@justpassingby_600 3 года назад
Bri was also laughing at Victoria’s nonsense @6:51. Not a great look for either one, but it could all be editing to be honest. We’ll know more at the women tell all.
@alenaisabel5309
@alenaisabel5309 3 года назад
Maybe she laughed because of how uncomfortable a situation this was. Many people don't know how to act when other people are being rude to someone else and just don't want the attention to be towards them. Like what happened with Katie when she stood up for Sarah, Victoria starting attacking her. I'm not saying that Abigail is perfect, but maybe there is another explanation for this.
@iansurya2985
@iansurya2985 3 года назад
@@justpassingby_600 if we are gonna wait for women tell all its gonna be the same result “editing” All i can comment/say is this season group of girls is not it
@bandaqueenlove9134
@bandaqueenlove9134 3 года назад
@@alenaisabel5309 agreed
@genacaldeira3793
@genacaldeira3793 3 года назад
Can we pleaaaaaase start lobbying for Katie to be bachelorette?
@Imani_AM
@Imani_AM 3 года назад
Katie for Bachelorette, Joe for Bachelor!
@Gryffindorgirl31
@Gryffindorgirl31 3 года назад
I miss Tayshia and her guys
@minhphung8479
@minhphung8479 3 года назад
When anna’s lips didnt touch while talking
@SherryEllesson
@SherryEllesson 3 года назад
Ugly.
@scarsstitches636
@scarsstitches636 3 года назад
Victoria at this point is way beyond being out of control. She's a pandemic!
@madslight
@madslight 3 года назад
I was literally shaking from anger after watching this episode I've never seen grown women be so disgusting, malicious, disrespectful, and immature and that's coming from someone who is Kit's age... some people were raised so horribly wrong and entitled
@wandamackenzie144
@wandamackenzie144 3 года назад
Mom and Dad I want to go on the Bachelor and make a total fool of myself and potentially destroy my career over my toxic psychopathic attitude, AND embarrass our family to millions of people. Who does this? Whether this is acting or not, it's extremely bad behavior that's programming viewers minds. Bachelor Nation young girls watch this. THIS is NOT OK. Big thanks to Katie and Michelle for showing what inner beauty reflects outwardly.
@mickiekay
@mickiekay 3 года назад
The Bachelor franchise really gave us one of the more romantic and unproblematic seasons in a long time with Tayshia to just straight mean girls where no one has an actual connection with the lead
@MarieJesne
@MarieJesne 3 года назад
Ugh I'm so disappointed. I tuned in for Tayshia's season for the first time since JoJo Fletcher was the bachelorette, and I was blown away by how amazing Tayshia is and how warm and fuzzy and romantic it felt to watch her on the one on ones, especially near the end. Yes there was drama but Tayshia handled it well and I got so invested in her journey. So with that in mind I decided to give the Bachelor a try this season and it's a complete 180 unfortunately. It's frustrating knowing that they CAN bring us a great season like they just did with the Bachelorette, yet they gave us this bs instead for Matt's season. When Matt is on the one on ones I feel anxious thinking about how the woman is going to go back to the group and get ripped apart. Hopefully in later episodes once the main culprits are eliminated, I can actually enjoy the finding love aspect of the show again. But for now, UGH. 🤬
@hebebeb
@hebebeb 3 года назад
11:43 notice who Victoria is laughing with...is that our unproblematic queen Abigail?? I thought it was weird they didn't show the girl she was laughing with's face but it makes sense, they want Abigail to have a good edit. The dress in the corner matches up with what we saw Abigail wearing at 11:17. Hmmmmmm
@avapoole5834
@avapoole5834 3 года назад
Wow...
@hibahh6471
@hibahh6471 3 года назад
THATS WHAT I SAID. Its like the 2nd time Abigail laughed WITH Victoria this episode.
@27511jessica
@27511jessica 3 года назад
Glad someone brought this up
@michelle-ev3me
@michelle-ev3me 3 года назад
what frustrates me the most is that besides katie none of the women confronted anyone about the bullying
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
I really dislike this whole cast. I don’t care that there are clear ring-leaders if you don’t say something you’re part of the problem. The only women I can stand at this point are Katie and the new girls. You can say what you want about the other women but they laugh along and don’t say anything to defend anyone.
@sarabaq1960
@sarabaq1960 3 года назад
Yes!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 At this point, I only care for Katie, Magi, and the new girls🤦🏻‍♀️ the other girls are just awful. It's so sad and I wish I could hug all the girls that were treated so terribly.
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
​@@sarabaq1960 Right?! I get it could be made even worse since it's happening in the middle of a pandemic so this is the most socialization anyone's seen for months and everyone's on edge from being locked in but man, it's just bad that really no one is standing up for anyone but Katie. And to not even have someone be like "Yeah Katie I agree." No one is expecting these girls to put their neck out there but it's not so hard to agree with her to show the mean girls people aren't just going to be toxic for no reason but I guess everyone wants to just stay out of it for some reason.
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
Thank you! Say it it for the folks who keep throwing Michelle at us in defense. Yes Matt likes her, but thats not what we are talking about. We're talking about how they condoned this behavior not only with Sarah but Villiany and Brittany
@ReneeTopanga
@ReneeTopanga 3 года назад
@@pixiestxNyomouf Exactly. Like, just because Michelle had a one-on-one doesn't change the fact that people were mean to her and though she "didn't deserve" the date... even though it's not like she sat and begged for it or even said she deserved it. Just sad that no one is shutting this down, especially production. I get drama is "interesting" to them but allowing people to be ostracized and bullied is wrong period.
@isatabangura5659
@isatabangura5659 3 года назад
@@pixiestxNyomouf l
@evelynasquith942
@evelynasquith942 3 года назад
So glad I wasn't the only person who thought of that office scene when poor Magi was floating away
@leak3024
@leak3024 3 года назад
I just don't understand how can they be so rude and mad at the new girls. It's not their fault that production decided they are going to come in late. Also it's like they don't know that Matt chooses who gets a one on one and that it's the girls fault that she got time with him
@rebeccaz8256
@rebeccaz8256 3 года назад
I'm not sure if I hate the producers or the cast more. First of all, the producers can see all this, they can view the footage and it's honestly kind of sad that nobody is gonna let Matt know abt any of these toxic ladies. It took Katie (who is a queen) to tell him?? I genuinely think Matt is trying to find a wife and if that's the case, he deserves to know about this. Just bc the producers want some drama they're gonna let women that are absolutely terrible people get through to Matt's heart. idk but that doesn't sit right with me. Moving on to the ladies. If the producers did put Victoria there to "have some fun" then they are horrible ppl bc she literally bullied out ppl that could've had a connection with Matt. In conclusion, Katie needs to be the new Chris Harrison, i cant even more. my funeral will be tmrw
@bethanymclean2136
@bethanymclean2136 3 года назад
Hard agree, also production is the ones who cast these women. Like you had a record number of applicants and this is who you come up with? really??
@cgill914
@cgill914 3 года назад
Just wanna to take a second to recognize who shined this episode: Michelle, Katie, Pieper, Bri and Magi for me ✨✨
@laurenteller7177
@laurenteller7177 3 года назад
eh serena and peiper were commenting on the new girls and laughing along. I wouldnt say they shined.
@cgill914
@cgill914 3 года назад
@@laurenteller7177 yeah, good point Serena did seem to be fine with the trash talking, I forgot about that. I did like Matt and Pieper together tho, seems like they vibe
@MissMeggieMM
@MissMeggieMM 3 года назад
@@laurenteller7177 which Serena? I didn’t notice any mean girl behavior from Serena P, but I did from the other Serena who was laughing with the group and made a few comments
@Sofia-hr9sg
@Sofia-hr9sg 3 года назад
ahhh i clicked faster than it took victoria to start hating on the new girls 🤭
@aubrienicolle
@aubrienicolle 3 года назад
Damn that’s quick🤭
@lisamarie8274
@lisamarie8274 3 года назад
For all of you Abigail fans out there, in case you missed it, she chuckled when Victoria told Brittany to go home. After this episode, Matt's final choice should be a hell of a lot easier; as there are only a few decent women left.
@UnCreativeBeliever
@UnCreativeBeliever 3 года назад
Not to be devils advocate, but I sometimes laugh when I’m anxious/feel awkward.
@milenayashkina8641
@milenayashkina8641 3 года назад
my respect for Katie: 📈📈📈 my respect for the "OG group": 📉📉📉
@rachelwestemeier4558
@rachelwestemeier4558 3 года назад
“The new girl is so disrespectful for StEaLinG the 1on1” “they are just so ignorant” bruh they had no control over that! They have no say on when they come into the house, who gets the date, etc. why are you bullying them over something they have no control over!
@majaw3671
@majaw3671 3 года назад
At 11:50 when Victoria was making this disgusting joke Abigail was laughing (it’s her sitting next to Victoria) she was cut out by the producers probably the because they didn’t want her to look bad. Made me loose some of the respect I had for her
@sharleenmagetto5051
@sharleenmagetto5051 3 года назад
She's definitely overrated because she has a hearing problem... doesn't make sense at all
@purplemusiclover1597
@purplemusiclover1597 3 года назад
I thought the same I had high hopes for her but she seems to be following the toxic crowd
@zygardecomplete3654
@zygardecomplete3654 3 года назад
The new girls had no control on when they arrived so for the original girls to be letting out their anger on them is so ridiculous
@machodgdon
@machodgdon 3 года назад
I truly believe that the season is getting to the point where it’s about to cross the line into full on drama and toxicity. Might have to drop til hometowns
@Jess-eo4xf
@Jess-eo4xf 3 года назад
Victoria F was just the warm-up round for the final boss battle that is Queen Victoria
@yasmeenm6435
@yasmeenm6435 3 года назад
Anna is starting to remind me of Yzma from Emperor's New Groove.
@fobpatdrkcgp
@fobpatdrkcgp 3 года назад
STOPPP I’m never unseeing it haha
@yasmeenm6435
@yasmeenm6435 3 года назад
@@fobpatdrkcgp thank u I’m so happy I finally made a funny 😭😭
@milenayashkina8641
@milenayashkina8641 3 года назад
Why does she talk with her teeth, like we get it you have veneers T_T...
@UnCreativeBeliever
@UnCreativeBeliever 3 года назад
OH MY GOD
@forsslot09
@forsslot09 3 года назад
My theory is that the group date day portion was cancelled because Matt wanted some time for himself after Sara left. During the evening they didn’t talk anything about the day activity.
@addiecarter3647
@addiecarter3647 3 года назад
Magi was so cute this episode
@marisaanna
@marisaanna 3 года назад
Agreed ive never related more to her floating away in the pumpkin bc deadass that would be me lol
@mmem4264
@mmem4264 3 года назад
I really admire what’s been shown of Katie so far. I wish I was that confident and comfortable in myself. I actually watched the ep fast forwarding through most of it until scenes of Katie appeared lol.
@chelseygarrett4221
@chelseygarrett4221 3 года назад
The girl that is cackling with Victoria after saying then go home is Abigail.
@pewpewparamedic8255
@pewpewparamedic8255 3 года назад
I'm a typical dude and have never watched or been into this whole bachelor nonsense unless a girlfriend made me watch it or something, but you my friend are fucking hilarious and you've gotten me addicted to these recap videos. I don't even watch the show I just watch these recap videos haha. you got me dying.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
Literally when the girl was stuck in the pumpkin, my sister was like “IT’S ANDY!”😂
@violete.duncan-williams6357
@violete.duncan-williams6357 3 года назад
Important Question!!!! Who here thinks this cast is worst than Peters?
@Therezumee92
@Therezumee92 3 года назад
That was kindergarden compared to this. Victoria was annoying all along but the whole escort thing is a new level. I hope there will be a lawsuit, for real. Dragging someone's name like this based on nothing...disgusting. It's a lot different than Victoria's homewrecking ways being exposed last season. As it came from a legit source and was downplayed by production.
@violete.duncan-williams6357
@violete.duncan-williams6357 3 года назад
@@Therezumee92 Absolutely, while it sucks that ABC itself might not be sued, Ann definitely need to face legal charges especially since she wants to act all high and mighty with all the fake news that she while there is proof that she herself was a bottle service girl. I’m so done with tearing others down to try to look better because that isn’t how that work. Really makes me question what type of methods the producers on this show use to recruit contestants
@Blueeyesinthesky
@Blueeyesinthesky 3 года назад
It is
@Levelheads4421
@Levelheads4421 3 года назад
There are a few greats (i.e. KATIE) that I would take over anyone in Peters season, but yes. This is a dumpster fire of mean girl takeover
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 3 года назад
They are
@moss_yt
@moss_yt 3 года назад
6:30 “Slore”??? I heard that term for the first yesterday while watching season 1 of Keeping Up w/ the Kardashians. Victoria is really looking like 2000’s tween movie villain, huh.
@bibbitybibs9333
@bibbitybibs9333 3 года назад
Can we appreciate how everyone keeps asking for a more mature cast, and yet this is the most immature cast I have ever seen??
@kenkeymessiah7844
@kenkeymessiah7844 3 года назад
Did u guys notice how Abby was laughing when Victoria told Brittany to get out of the house. The camera didn’t pan to her but you can clearly hear her laugh and her shoulder move up and how and Victoria looking at her and laughing too. I was disappointed
@MOVIEHORIZON
@MOVIEHORIZON 3 года назад
The group dates: reading the raunchy stories...boxing each other...feels so humiliating and degrading... I'm sorry...
@pluto31337
@pluto31337 3 года назад
@Michelle Chukwujekwu I’m glad Matt stopped it early
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