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@neilcrowley5232
@neilcrowley5232 17 дней назад
The most frightening thing is, if Karen Read didn't have the resources, she'd b heading to prison IMO. This is a 7 figure defense and worth every dollar. I hope she gets every dime back when she sues them.
@debijo5288
@debijo5288 17 дней назад
My Opinion they tried so hard to blame Karen and messed everything up, by throwing more into this this case to prove she's guilty BUT KAREN DIDN'T KILL HIM..
@sythmc8600
@sythmc8600 17 дней назад
Exactly!
@shkrjam84
@shkrjam84 17 дней назад
@@debijo5288and even if she did, on accident, hit him and didn’t know it (her immediate phone call to JO tells me it wasn’t intentional if it happened at all that way), the investigators and CW have screwed this up so much that we will never know. Because whether the verdict comes back guilty or not guilty, I think we’re still going to be left scratching our heads wondering what happened.
@prisonersdilemma939
@prisonersdilemma939 16 дней назад
John got up after he was hit in the arm by the SUV going 24MPH. His injuries to his arm were caused by the taillight and his fall to the asphalt. He made it to his feet, glanced at the SUV and saw Karen’s evil eyes peering over the seat. Disoriented from his alcohol consumption and the impact, he fell down again, cracking his head on the curb, asphalt, or frozen ground. He got up again, bleeding profusely and losing consciousness. He pulled his phone out of his pocket as he began staggering towards the home for help. He was valiantly trying to survive this maniacal woman as she smirked in the same manner we’ve witnessed in court. Unfortunately, John only made it 15-20 feet before dropping his phone and falling to his final resting spot. He was alive for hours afterwards as brain swelling and hypothermia caused his agonizing, slow death. While John struggled to move, Karen anxiously sat on her couch hoping hours would pass without a cop knocking at the door. She knew if they did, she would go to prison for over a decade. All the evidence points to this, even the location of the taillight pieces. The taillight pieces, only 2 to 3 in total initially, fell to the asphalt and were ran over multiple times by first responders and the traveling public before the snowplow came by in the late morning, pushing the snow and everything underneath it onto a wide area of the front lawn. The prosecution made a huge mistake with their theory of the case. It was impossible to recreate this murder, yet that is exactly what they tried to do for this jury. No jury is going to buy the story the Trooper Paul was selling. I’m still holding out hope for a conviction, but after Trooper Paul, I’m a lot less confident than I was. I’m 90% sure she’ll be convicted of manslaughter and DUI causing death, at a minimum. She’ll cool her heels in prison for at least a decade before parole for the death and given the post-indictment victimization of dozens of others.
@DruDuk
@DruDuk 16 дней назад
​@prisonersdilemma939 Nah, that's weak af. If that diabolical, she would've headed home and cleaned her SUV. Then she would've faked a hangover, pretending to wake up late the next day. She would've subsequently played dumb, acting as if she couldn't remember what had happened. And, by then, her BAC would've registered below 0.08. The CW should've stuck with "This was a accident by a drunk woman." But second-degree murder wasn't sellable, given both her behavior and the ME's cause of death as UNDETERMINED. Veh. man. is gone too, since it was stated that the death wasn't accidental. If I'm not mistaken, the bald guy with Down's Syndrome said so.
@profphilbell2075
@profphilbell2075 17 дней назад
Sorry that I have to put it so bluntly, but as a physicist, I was appalled that this trooper devoid of sufficient physics or mathematics knowledge to even understand the basic laws of kinematics and dynamics can appear in court as an expert witness objectivity trying to convict the defendant. The frightening thing is that he has appeared in other cases masquerading as an expert in road accident reconstruction, and by inference kinematics and dynamics. The supreme irony in this case is that one of the world’s leading institutions in the discipline of physics and mathematics, replete with ACTUAL physicists is in just TWO MILES from downtown Boston, namely the Massachusetts Institute of Technology . WHY did they not organise an actual expert from this prestigious university? Could it be that the prosecution did NOT want a real expert on the stand.
@corrinabanks3567
@corrinabanks3567 17 дней назад
Or they couldn't find one that would testify the way they needed them to
@Journey007a
@Journey007a 17 дней назад
Bingo! I suspect that’s exactly why- they don’t want a real expert but rather someone they know if they wave enough dollars in his face, he’ll make the reconstruction FIT their narrative vs reconstructing and then providing the common wealth with solid evidence based on data and science! This guy is a joke!
@lindsayTX87
@lindsayTX87 17 дней назад
They couldn’t find an expepert without integrity.
@IzzyMariel
@IzzyMariel 17 дней назад
The FBI empaneled a grand jury to investigate something regarding this case. We are not exactly sure what all they are investigating yet. As part of this investigation, 3 accident reconstruction experts were used. They determined John's injuries were not caused by Karen's SUV. 2 of those experts will be testifying for the defense.
@lynnhauenstein4136
@lynnhauenstein4136 17 дней назад
Thank you prof Phil bell...for pointing out deficiency of Trooper.
@kathleenmartin8334
@kathleenmartin8334 17 дней назад
I’ve read that Alan Jackson was a fighter jet mechanic in the Air Force. He has a BS degree in aeronautical or mechanical engineering. After obtaining his engineering degree, he went to Pepperdine Law School in Malibu, CA. Jackson knows more about speed, acceleration, mass, force & momentum; compared to the accident reconstruction officer. It appears the guy has forgotten all of his physics definitions & equations to determine important information. When you calculate speed, acceleration, weight or mass, force, momentum, etc; you need information from the previous math equations. If you do not know the weight, acceleration, speed, force or acceleration; you will not be able to calculate momentum.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
I was shocked Baby Trooper didn't know OKs weight.
@sammie2537
@sammie2537 17 дней назад
T rr
@Ocean_Soul26
@Ocean_Soul26 17 дней назад
wow impressive! Jackson is the shiz
@Sonotfrench
@Sonotfrench 17 дней назад
Omg that’s amazing😮!
@melb2258
@melb2258 16 дней назад
He definitely failed today’s test ! He got a big fat F !
@showkitties3844
@showkitties3844 17 дней назад
99% of the Prosecutions “experts” have all been State Troopers. That’s wild to me. Those texts were supposed to make Karen look bad… but,to me at least, I ended up empathizing w/ her, & it was John who came out looking bad.
@LadyLuck13
@LadyLuck13 17 дней назад
Totally agree.
@user-dz5ph8pu5w
@user-dz5ph8pu5w 17 дней назад
Agree ! I thought it actually made it make sense why she started messaging Higgins with the way her relationship was going aswell and getting no where trying to sort things out. And definitely made u sympathise with her more than anything. Also the texts at the end went in her favour as why would she still be arguing with him/ baiting him if she had knowingly killed him. That whole text messaging section went in the defences favour
@MoonDragon1
@MoonDragon1 17 дней назад
Agreed!
@zang9147
@zang9147 17 дней назад
All the state troopers are actually the same person.
@LadyLuck13
@LadyLuck13 17 дней назад
@@zang9147 😂
@taraann1234
@taraann1234 17 дней назад
How was this case even brought to trial? It's terrifying.
@kardiojunkee
@kardiojunkee 17 дней назад
And why wouldn’t Bev agree to a continuance when both parties asked for it whilst the FBI was investigating?? Wouldn’t that save the commonwealth $$$… bc in the end, there is not enough evidence to support, and prove that she hit him with her car
@jobo3742
@jobo3742 17 дней назад
He sounded like he memorized a script and then had no idea what to say that he wasn't told. I don't think he reconstructed anything but a fantasy.
@justforcomments9524
@justforcomments9524 17 дней назад
He had no confidence and he could not even articulate his own conclusions??
@avp6730
@avp6730 17 дней назад
I think he just copy-pasted the report so he couldn't really repeat what it said
@memomfv
@memomfv 17 дней назад
They didn’t hire an outside expert because it didn’t happen the way they’re saying.
@hollypgh84
@hollypgh84 17 дней назад
My thoughts too. Didn't want an unbiased expert
@user-my5xp2vi6g
@user-my5xp2vi6g 17 дней назад
Agreed, this guy fell right on the sword for proctor and lally. Ridiculous
@l-train7876
@l-train7876 16 дней назад
@@user-my5xp2vi6gexactly right. Paul was Proctor’s sacrificial lamb. CW knew they couldn’t prove this case so they threw a rookie under the bus.
@Sweetiepie68
@Sweetiepie68 12 дней назад
Probably couldn’t find a real expert willing to ruin their career, name imo………..Do they all think we are this stupid?They had to know there would be others (real HONEST LE,judges,lawyers etc…)watching all of this…That know this is all outrageous.
@stephanietexas1325
@stephanietexas1325 17 дней назад
Karen blowing up his phone, as they claim was her usual pattern, after he was dead proves to me that she did not kill him
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
They seem to know nothing about women. I had an ex like O'Keefe and when he ghosted me , the texts were way fruitier than that. Also the pop glasses counted as alcohol....
@NEprimo
@NEprimo 17 дней назад
Intentionally you mean, she very possibly just didn't realize she smoked him and drove off
@leannabedore
@leannabedore 17 дней назад
I've felt this all along too. Along with how hysterical she was when she discovered him. She was the only one showing any emotion. Enough so they took her to the hospital too. Would love to hear witnesses from the hospital that day of her emotional state and statements she made.
@leannabedore
@leannabedore 17 дней назад
​@NEprimo except the prosecution is claiming she was going 24 mph in reverse to intentionally hit him. Why would she be going 24mph in reverse, not on accident. I don't buy this theory anyway. It was a snow storm. The roads were slick and if she dropped him off why wouldn't he immediately walk up to the house and just stand there in the road and not jump out of the way if she was coming in reverse at him.
@Courage2bwell
@Courage2bwell 17 дней назад
relationally speaking - I agree!
@Ania-cd2sh
@Ania-cd2sh 17 дней назад
At this point I feel like the prosecution isn’t actually trying to prove their own case but trying to disprove the defense case. Its mind blowing
@lollnr3447
@lollnr3447 17 дней назад
My thoughts exactly! Stop wasting time on Jenn McCabe's cellabrite search
@katieroach7940
@katieroach7940 17 дней назад
1000% you can feel the defeat in Lally, this is such a shit show, crazy.
@amandamacabre
@amandamacabre 17 дней назад
@@lollnr3447 the amount of time they spend on it makes me think it probably WAS actually done at 2:27 and they know their case falls apart if the defence proves it. I liked their experts that debunked it well enough, but I think the defence expert is going to come in HOT.
@JeniferMorris789
@JeniferMorris789 17 дней назад
Right! Multiple witnesses to dissect Jen McCabe’s Google searches but we still have no idea how the victim died. Like WHERE IS THE ME?
@mfs452
@mfs452 17 дней назад
They have more witnesses for damage control than to accuse Karen
@BearSiren
@BearSiren 17 дней назад
They spent more time and money trying to disprove “hos long to die in cold” than they did investigating this entire case.
@Mommin_Aint_Eazy
@Mommin_Aint_Eazy 17 дней назад
My thought exactly! Poor O'Keefe family. It's heartbreaking
@justanothersmith6012
@justanothersmith6012 17 дней назад
🙌🏼 🎯🎯🎯
@saraha7006
@saraha7006 17 дней назад
Yes they have & it’s laughable
@Great_Kate
@Great_Kate 17 дней назад
We need to ask ourselves why. Lally isn’t Jen McCabe’s attorney but he is acting like it.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
They are trying to discredit cell phone data to do it.
@Phoenix_flying
@Phoenix_flying 17 дней назад
I can’t WAIT for the defense’s case. Expecting them to bury the CW case. This has been a circus. Surely the jury must see it.
@marcopalazzo9349
@marcopalazzo9349 17 дней назад
I think it's basically expert witnesses and Lucky the plough driver. Hopefully the CW rests Thurday I'm getting sick of Lallygagging wasting time.
@esthersiersema
@esthersiersema 17 дней назад
@@marcopalazzo9349 me to this has taken long enough now wauw all those weeks to prove exactly what? That they don't even know if he got hit? Hope they rest there case soon i can only imagine how long this feels for the jurors 😖 if i was sitting there i would be very very done with CW and ready for the defense to do there thing and to finally see this trial end and go to a normal live again
@prisonersdilemma939
@prisonersdilemma939 16 дней назад
I think they do. I’ve been watching Yanetti and Karen’s eyes and body language towards the jury at every chance I get during this trial. They have at least one juror in their back pocket at this point. They would not be staring at jurors so often unless it was apparent by their reactions what their impression of the evidence was. Yanetti has positioned his body directly towards the jury at times. He is just too comfortable with the jury if he didn’t know or see something from a juror or jurors. It was readily apparent during this Trooper’s testimony today,
@rtbakes1
@rtbakes1 16 дней назад
Judge trying to not let in crucial defense witnesses. So much for justice
@karenbullington878
@karenbullington878 17 дней назад
The more I listen to this trial the more I believe Karen is innocent
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
And the more I believe the entirety of the LEOs involved need to be investigated and brought to trial for all of this, O'Keefe's death (or at least the cover-up) included. This is the exact kind of case that makes me go "See, THIS is why everyone hates cops and why there aren't songs called 'F**k the Fire Department".
@jadew93
@jadew93 17 дней назад
I did not feel sorry for this Trooper Paul guy at all! Does he not realize how serious it is to try to put a person in prison for the rest of their life! What a joke. I feel sorry for all the people in Mass if this is the quality of experts the state relies on.
@MrsK976
@MrsK976 17 дней назад
This
@showkitties3844
@showkitties3844 17 дней назад
Zero sympathy. Wonder how many other cases he’s done this on. Hopefully after today, this will be his last.
@Great_Kate
@Great_Kate 17 дней назад
I got the feeling he’s a patsy and I wonder how much or how little power he has at the end of the day.
@maycronin1188
@maycronin1188 17 дней назад
​@@MrsK976and he trains others
@reginacorrigan5324
@reginacorrigan5324 17 дней назад
​@@showkitties3844He was an absolute disaster
@julie5845
@julie5845 17 дней назад
I disagree about the Alberts texts. The “tell them the guy never came in the house” was suspicious to me
@dudemorris7769
@dudemorris7769 17 дней назад
Me too, literally tells me he was in the house & they don’t want any one else to know.
@Veshremy-fan-gaming
@Veshremy-fan-gaming 17 дней назад
I agree 100% They are SUS AF!!!
@KonekoPurrrfection
@KonekoPurrrfection 17 дней назад
Definitely sounds like a wink wink shhhh to me as well
@JD-vh1qd
@JD-vh1qd 17 дней назад
If he was never in the house no one would have to say “ he was never in the house” it’s like when you witness something and you want to express you won’t tell you say . “It’s like I was never here”.
@BearSiren
@BearSiren 17 дней назад
Was this prior to the defense bringing up the Alberts?
@vcart54
@vcart54 17 дней назад
I thought the key cycle cross was huge. 24 mph in reverse is very fast. Proving that key cycle 01162 did not occur at 34 Fairview is important.
@karinaz8756
@karinaz8756 17 дней назад
Driving 24 mph in reverse at night in the snow after 7 drinks . Didn’t happen.
@rtbakes1
@rtbakes1 17 дней назад
Such a bad look when the defense attorney is educating the expert on his job!
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt 16 дней назад
😂😂😂😂
@leslievasquez2645
@leslievasquez2645 17 дней назад
Am I the only one who thinks that if John was hit by a car he would have yelled out and screamed for help?
@nitsakalkinis4135
@nitsakalkinis4135 17 дней назад
Exactly!! He definitely would not have died on contact!!
@potentiallyacommentor5648
@potentiallyacommentor5648 17 дней назад
He probably would have dodged it, then screamed.
@susanlane214
@susanlane214 17 дней назад
Or used his phone.
@BellCurvekiller-ww1th
@BellCurvekiller-ww1th 17 дней назад
interesting since he apparently didn't fall down right there and die on the spot. Didn't they say he was several yards away. I missed that part. but after being struck he should have been able to yell out.
@Great_Kate
@Great_Kate 17 дней назад
Why would you think you’re the only one? Peter plays naive because it’s risky for law professionals to admit cops can be corrupt but everyone knows .. none of this adds up.
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 17 дней назад
This accident recreationist "expert" was a literal car crash, pedestrian and all.
@redessa01
@redessa01 17 дней назад
But can you calculate the momentum of the crash? Oh wait, you can't because he doesn't weigh as much as a car 🙄
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
As someone pointed out Jackson's cross was an accident reconstruction...
@marcopalazzo9349
@marcopalazzo9349 17 дней назад
He wasn't an expert tho, he was a trooper. He wasn't independent to the investigation so he wasn't an expert witness but basically another law enforcement officer with very limited to the field he testified to. I wonder if actual experts wouldn't touch this and that's why they ended up with this car wreck.
@polysemiclove
@polysemiclove 17 дней назад
@@marcopalazzo9349especially given the federal investigation, I think you are onto something with the real experts not touching the prosecutions case. or their opinions were too mixed so they went with this poor idiot LEO.
@Boblawblah229
@Boblawblah229 17 дней назад
What did that witness mumble???
@amandasailsbury1878
@amandasailsbury1878 17 дней назад
I know that Karen thought about taking a plea for 16 months, I think only a fool wouldn’t consider it when you’re facing years of incarceration. I do find myself wondering if they upped the charge to 2nd degree intentional murder to “punish” her for taking this trial. If I were on her team, I would request no lesser includeds. No manslaughter. All or nothing. There is ZERO percent chance she is convicted of 2nd degree.
@CrazyMutherTrucker
@CrazyMutherTrucker 15 дней назад
I'm guessing upped charge cause who her lawyer is and he's a cop. I also think the more they could pile in her both evidentiary as well as charging, helps to deflect any bad acts by others involved, regardless of their intentions or level of involvement. Deflection was motive. "He's a COP and she's a BITCH. THEY WERENT GETTING ALONG AND SOMEONE ELSE WANTED HER" THEY never thought about the whole situation to others view..only saw themselves and panicked cause even with a group of them they're still boxes of rocks. Sick of cops placed on pedestals.
@truthseeker1649
@truthseeker1649 17 дней назад
Alan Jackson is amazing. Karen Reid sure has got herself quality lawyers. I could watch Jackson all day, i can't put my finger on what it is about him i like. He's very quick minded and witty ❤
@KonekoPurrrfection
@KonekoPurrrfection 17 дней назад
They keep using the term "expert" so loosely in this trial. It would be laughable if a man didn't lose his life and another persons life is on the line.
@christinameeker7377
@christinameeker7377 17 дней назад
100%!!! My favorite part is when Trooper Paul says, "I'm trying to keep it straight," while holding the laser pointer. I literally cackled at this comment. He is so visibly nervous, and then I remembered, there's actually nothing funny about the fact that this man is claiming to be an expert and is willing to testify to subject matter he has very much a novice in!
@lynnnichols2847
@lynnnichols2847 17 дней назад
​@@christinameeker7377Exactly. It is definitely not laughable that this man is not REcreating anything. He's CREATING something that fits someone else's narrative, and he's perfectly willing to sit there and say these things knowing full well someone may go to prison for life as a result of what he's saying. Not laughable. More like preposterous.
@kyle1598hffgyfv
@kyle1598hffgyfv 17 дней назад
Reconstructionists are supposed to be science nerds; this guy is no nerd & he used no science. His testimony was, "I'm an expert, trust me, bro."
@pinkymingo7
@pinkymingo7 17 дней назад
Agree!!!
@Boblawblah229
@Boblawblah229 17 дней назад
What did that witness mumble???
@jadew93
@jadew93 17 дней назад
Did anyone see Gordon Ramsey today? He was in a bike wreck this weekend. He lifted the left side of his shirt in a video to show his injury and the entire area was solid purple. He described it as the color of a purple potato. How does O’Keefe not have any upper body injuries remotely close to this if he was struck by a suv?
@mafortu9032
@mafortu9032 17 дней назад
Canton is in the quantum verse, tail light pieces pop in and out of existence and people fly through the air and stuff just is like 1 + 1= fish.
@anitabee57
@anitabee57 17 дней назад
But if he was beaten, why no marks on his face or body?? Not official testimony but Dr's have said he had a closed head injury which means blood pools inside the head causing black eyes & eye protrusion.. No broken nose or missing teeth or bruising on his face other than his eyes.. If he had been beaten, where are the marks?
@Great_Kate
@Great_Kate 17 дней назад
@@anitabee57he had 2 black and very swollen eyes and a gash on his head.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
​@@Great_Kateplus a cut.
@marianmarlin7724
@marianmarlin7724 17 дней назад
And scratches on his forearm and defensive bruises on his hands
@KDSima
@KDSima 17 дней назад
The fights seem like normal relationship issues to me. I used to be so worried my husband would leave me. He would say things that he knew would cause me to be insecure, then everything would be okay. We r now in our late 60’s, things just got better about 10 years ago. Insecurity can mess with things. Doesn’t make one of them toxic, and the other one “good”.
@techninja4136
@techninja4136 17 дней назад
I agree. To me these messages make JO sound like he’s using KR and playing on her insecurities. He doesn’t sound like the prince they’re making him out to be.
@KDSima
@KDSima 17 дней назад
@@techninja4136 👍🏻Agree.
@enigma_-_79
@enigma_-_79 17 дней назад
The texts showed that Karen Read is a classic Bunny Boiler. JOK had, according to his children, told her repeatedly to leave his home because the relationship had “run its course” and was “toxic.” Children said that she refused to leave and would chase after JOK, screaming at him. She wasn’t invited to the night out, his friends can’t stand to be around her, so she lied, saying she was going out drinking when she appeared at the bar in Canton. She didn’t want JOK to go to the Alberts because she didn’t feel welcome, but he went anyway. She flew into a rage and backed her car into him, leaving him to die in the cold. She was with him when he died after lying, saying that she left him in the Waterfall Bar. She only admitted to having brought him to the Alberts after she knew she had been seen. Read claimed that she hit him to numerous people, even saying to her own father that she definitely “struck something.” Read only invented the conspiracy story after she bought Alan Jackson for $1,000,000. Read is a liar. She lied about the state of her relationship with John, she lied about events in Aruba, she lied about having driven him to the Alberts, she lied about how many drinks she had drank and she lied about going home to Mansfield. Read was a cheat. She tried to start something with her bf colleague, even turning up at his apartment uninvited. He didn’t sleep with her, he dodged a bullet. Read started a relationship with a man who had two children when she knew that she didn’t like or want children herself. The children testified that Read either screamed at them or gave them the silent treatment when she was displeased with them. She insisted that they were put in a hotel room in Atuba, alone and on the other side of the hotel. She didn’t “bring in the New Year with “Johns children,” she was blind drunk, obnoxious and embarrassing, screaming obscenities at one of Johns long-time friends little sister. Frankly, Read is a mess. She’s getting on for 50 yrs old and can’t keep a relationship going. I’d love to hear from her ex’es. Read is guilty. She’s an alcoholic with rage issues who hounded John because he wanted to break up with her. She felt that he didn’t support her when she was a NFI at the Alberts. No sh;t. Bunny Boiler.
@jeffhanna6986
@jeffhanna6986 17 дней назад
​@@enigma_-_79what are you a complete moron?
@Stacy-
@Stacy- 17 дней назад
​@@enigma_-_79 - You apparently missed all the important stuff. All you did was describe Karen's behavior, but none of that is proof of 2nd degree murder. You have to have proof & all you offered up was personality & behavior stuff. Sounds like you have confirmation bias too. The investigators screwed up this case from the start. They decided Karen did it & looked for evidence to fit their narrative. You are doing the exact same thing. They completely botched the crime scene, the investigation, any evidence, & did everything they could to protect their friends. You don't seem to understand the difference between actual evidence & personality quirks. They are not the same thing. You can't convict someone because you don't like them or how they behave in a relationship. 🙄 What happened to the presumption of innocence? The defense hasn't even presented their case yet. Can you see how ridiculous that sounds? Hopefully you'll never be picked for a jury. 🤨🥺
@Lou-gr6lc
@Lou-gr6lc 17 дней назад
Imagine being put away for life because of testimony like this. It makes me think of all the people who have been incarcerated for life or had decades taken from them because of investigations like this.
@virahpayam
@virahpayam 16 дней назад
💯🪦🪽
@ravenzyblack
@ravenzyblack 12 дней назад
THIS is exactly why the Innocence Project exists.
@Wattooo141
@Wattooo141 17 дней назад
Lally could show me a video of Karen Read committing the crime and at this point I would STILL vote not guilty. The whole prosecution case has been a cluster f**k and that’s putting it politely.
@BellCurvekiller-ww1th
@BellCurvekiller-ww1th 17 дней назад
OMG that's the funniest thing I've read today. had to pick myself up from the floor to personally thank you. bless humor
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie 17 дней назад
Yeah, the prosecution hasn't proved she did it beyond a reasonable doubt. Any jury should should find her not guilty, even if they think she did it, because Lally hasn't actually proved anything.
@Grace_steiner
@Grace_steiner 17 дней назад
Please don’t ever accept jury duty. 🤦🏼‍♀️
@Wattooo141
@Wattooo141 17 дней назад
@@AliceBowie exactly - the investigation, the changing statements and testimonies, the absolute avalanche of prosecution witnesses in the hopes of completely overwhelming the jury so they vote guilty out of confusion. I could potentially have bought manslaughter but they’re so far away from proving intent it’s quite unbelievable.
@Wattooo141
@Wattooo141 17 дней назад
@@Grace_steiner please learn to recognise sarcasm and hyperbole 🤦🏼‍♀️
@angelana32
@angelana32 17 дней назад
The key cycles was the most important part of the testimony. It proves that the car had been seized when those trigger events occurred. You should rewatch to catch the magnitude of that testimony. It shows Karen wasn’t in possession of the car at the time the key cycles allegedly coinciding with her hitting O’Keefe occurred.
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 17 дней назад
I think so, too. Everything about the car's behavior, speed, accelerator pedal pressure, steering wheel turning, distance, all tied to that particular trigger event. They determined that by counting back through the key cycles. If they got the incorrect trigger key cycle, ALL associated data has nothing to do with events of 1/29. Unless I am failing to understand the info presented.
@Jesika1202
@Jesika1202 17 дней назад
I agree, and more importantly it makes more sense that the key cycle that went in reverse and did a "3 point turn" would be when the Lexus was being taken from the driveway and onto the tow truck.
@brendatherrien7716
@brendatherrien7716 17 дней назад
I don't think Peter got this point. that is exactly what happened. Those events of driving backwards at 24 mph occurred 2 key cycles before he tested the car. which meant it was already in custody. This shows how devious the CW is. To frame somebody. I hope people really understand this point - because it kills the CW case altogether. trigger event did not happen when Karen had the car.
@janiejane777
@janiejane777 17 дней назад
I was thinking the same but why did Jackson keep framing it as a "hypothetical"?
@Woefman911
@Woefman911 17 дней назад
Exactly triggers were car being driven on and off tow truck, sent off warnings in computer about crazy angles and poss abrupt suspension bounces
@WoodlandT
@WoodlandT 17 дней назад
This was brutal to watch. I don’t like seeing people being embarrassed, even when they are bringing it on themselves. This man should never have been in that position. This is not how we reach justice. The entire investigation was a complete debacle and the prosecution is following suit
@skygodess87
@skygodess87 17 дней назад
Shame on the prosecution!! This poor guy didn’t have a chance!!
@sundayafternoon6532
@sundayafternoon6532 17 дней назад
It's brutal to send someone to life in prison for a murder they didn't commit... I have no sympathy for him
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt 16 дней назад
I was embarrassed for the poor man
@virahpayam
@virahpayam 16 дней назад
I'm glad this embarrassment is on display for the whole country to see. POC have been saying for decades that the punishment model of justice is messed up and cops unfairly target & send people to prison on bogus charges ALL THE TIME. If this is what's happening to a wealthy white woman just for "having no ass," imagine what happens to poor people whose trials aren't televised and who can't afford an Alan Jackson?? I really hope people start to rethink the idea that it's okay for us to just be throwing everyone in jail all willynilly on the word of one or two cops 😕🙏🏽
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
​@@sundayafternoon6532same. Plus, he's a state trooper, so who's to say he isn't just blindly going along with what his buddies on the other side of the force told him to do/say. Spineless and just as much trash as the other cops in this situation.
@JojoCharli
@JojoCharli 17 дней назад
I feel bad that all the members of the jury have put their whole lives on hold for a complete and total sham of a trial
@Geospasmic
@Geospasmic 17 дней назад
Having seen it now I kinda wish I was there to see it live.
@virahpayam
@virahpayam 16 дней назад
And I feel bad for the tax payers whose hard earned money is being wasted to pay for this 😮‍💨💸🗑🔥
@jillkline9237
@jillkline9237 17 дней назад
He had me thinking this was believable UNTIL 1) the one that was inaccurate was the time stamp in the middle. 2) and bigger…It was not replicable. That is the whole point of science. It HAS to be replicated.
@karinaz8756
@karinaz8756 17 дней назад
Exactly. This isn’t a re-enactment. It’s one guy’s opinions. Demonstrate with a crash dummy. Spoiler alert - they can’t. Turtle Boy tried to reconstruct driving backwards at 24 mph for 60 feet: he couldn’t do it. He maxed out at 19 mph. But Karen was supposed to have done it at night in the snow after 7 drinks?
@lynneserman6054
@lynneserman6054 18 часов назад
Exactly!
@Mommin_Aint_Eazy
@Mommin_Aint_Eazy 17 дней назад
I've said this almost everyday after trial- IF Karen Read did this, the CW has obliterated any chance at his family getting justice and its heartbreaking. I've always thought she was not guilty but I'm pushed further and further from the CW everyday. 😢
@ohmightywez
@ohmightywez 17 дней назад
That is the real tragedy in this. Thank you for that important reminder. A man is dead, his children are fatherless, his parents buried their son, and they have waited so long for answers and they will walk away with none.
@LeanneRigby-iy7nx
@LeanneRigby-iy7nx 17 дней назад
I just hope the feds know something and are waiting for everyone to perjure themselves and then they’ll swoop in. 🤞🤞🤞
@diana4u2010
@diana4u2010 16 дней назад
Witnesses from Fed's were sent in at the last minute for nothing, it's problamatic for all. Doctor from California was a set up and she was poorly ready and had no notes or reports to back her testimony.
@lauramiller2875
@lauramiller2875 17 дней назад
I feel like everyone gives John O'Keefe credit (as they should) for adopting his niece & nephew. But Karen's contribution is totally glossed over. She was a second parent to those kids, and I don't hear her getting any credit for it. They are no relation to her, and she wasn't married into the family, yet she seems to have spent at least as much time with the children as he did. If I were raising a man's children, and he criticized my methods, my texts would be much more reactive than hers. I would feel that if he wants to control what's going on with the kids when he isn't there, he can hire a damn babysitter.
@annm9589
@annm9589 17 дней назад
This was a relationship that worked well during covid and I think she was questioning whether this family relationship was for her long term. Doesn't mean she would kill him. she could leave any time on her own terms. She has her own home, career, etc. i dont get murder from her at all.
@amie8400
@amie8400 17 дней назад
I’m married x7 years to a man with two children, I do not have bio kids. I hate to admit it but I have said some terrible things to my husband in text messages in a fight. I know his kids absolutely must come first but sometimes I need to feel like number one and sometimes say things hoping for a certain reaction from him. Not a proud moment but I think it is normal human behavior. I do not think these texts mean motive for murder. Again I love my husband more than anything in this world. I’d never think of hurting him in any way except with my words.
@karinaz8756
@karinaz8756 17 дней назад
I get it. I think the only reason John kept her around was to help with the kids.
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 17 дней назад
We all have less than stellar moments in relationships. I've been married 20 years. These messages are just standard relationship bs that ppl struggle with all the time.
@karinaz8756
@karinaz8756 17 дней назад
@@lawnerddownunder3461 exactly. This proves nothing. This is prosecution trying to force a narrative.
@jborrego2406
@jborrego2406 16 дней назад
Well that's sad you shouldn't be coming last place I mean when the kids grow up I mean who is he going to be with. He needs to learn a balance. And hopefully not using you like a nanny with benefits
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 17 дней назад
His whole little map was based on where the body landed and it's orientation but he NEVER saw the body or even a picture of it!! TP: There is no evidence he flew in the air AJ: EXACTLY...EXACTLY... This guy recreated his own crash and burn.
@BustedFlush7096
@BustedFlush7096 17 дней назад
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. AJ got him to say it.
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 17 дней назад
​​@@BustedFlush7096It was beutiful!
@ravenzyblack
@ravenzyblack 12 дней назад
No, he’s basing the map on what he was told by Gallagher where the body was found but Gallagher didn’t see the body himself. He was told that by an EMS or EMT that was on the team the initial team that came 6:30 in the morning they were more concerned with saving his life Than measuring the distance of where his body was lying to the road nobody took any measurements. Nobody took proper pictures.
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 9 дней назад
@@ravenzyblack a more inept crew, impossible
@JojoCharli
@JojoCharli 17 дней назад
I feel horrible that this poor Witness allowed himself to be used as an expert. He looks like he's about to cry and has no confidence
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt 16 дней назад
Frankly it was hard to watch
@l-train7876
@l-train7876 16 дней назад
Nobody on his team is watching out for him, or they did this to him on purpose. I think the CW knows they can’t prove their case and they put up this weak witness in order to blame the loss on Trooper Paul. He’s their sacrificial lamb and he doesn’t know it.
@shrumt2020
@shrumt2020 16 дней назад
At one point I thought he was crying, I think he was so nervous he couldn’t answer anything! Like ADD , so many times I have blacked out on trying to do a test or directions because I panic and I have ADD , I can tell he does to, it was hard for him to focus! Poor guy
@nobodysfool2750
@nobodysfool2750 17 дней назад
I'm sick of my intelligence being insulted by the cw,and it's such a disrespect of the life lost a police officer,they supposed to put on their best,this is not that 😢
@zoecove9836
@zoecove9836 17 дней назад
“Blowing up his phone” is less than two texts an hour when you’re wanting to work through a relationship issue? Anxious-attachment & Avoidant-attachment is addictive but toxic - and it takes time to recognise it’s not going to change & leave. The fact she wouldn’t have left a teenage girl alone shows she still cared. I’m presuming one of the other “guests” was meant to drive him home. They decided to up the charges to encourage her to plead guilty. They didn’t know anything about her but her medical issues and stuff Jen had told them & didn’t realise she could afford a quality legal team. I’m really looking forward to the defense experts. I would have thought each State DA’s office would hire a graphic designer / coder to do graphic illustrations for cases. That would be worth the money and would be fairly easy to do.
@stargazerkawaii
@stargazerkawaii 17 дней назад
The texts between Karen Reed and John O'Keefe read as a woman trying to pin him down. She seems to be trying to get him to break up with her or prove his commitment and profess his love. He seems like he has no plans and is just seeing how things turn out. Or he wants to break up with her, but it isn't because he needs her to help him with the kids. It's hard to tell with him. Doesn't seem like a motive to kill him.
@amandamacabre
@amandamacabre 17 дней назад
I agree. I think she just wanted to know if she was wasting her time with him or not. If she was so obsessed that she was gonna end him for dumping her, I don't see her being so flirty with Higgins and risking their relationship.
@V23325
@V23325 17 дней назад
That’s interesting I see Karen in a very different light. It looks like she was hurt and trying to engage with John and looking for him to show some amount of care and concern for her, and then he is avoidant, evasive and cold in his replies. Doesn’t want to fight but is the one who is starting arguments and is just unhappy about held accountable. Over the course of the trial he looks more and more like an awful boyfriend. None of this looks like a motive for her to kill him though, I agree with you there.
@facts-ps1fu
@facts-ps1fu 17 дней назад
I think he was using her a bit with the kids wanted his cake and eating it too, also a bit of a player, no woman wants that!
@KonekoPurrrfection
@KonekoPurrrfection 17 дней назад
Well she came off as completely unhinged and extremely clingy so the fact John essentially told her to back off and give him some space which she clearly didn't respect and didn't give says she was toxic and too immature for a relationship to me John didn't seem like he was mature enough either so just a very unhealthy and toxic relationship. Personally I think Karen is innocent of kil1ing him but she has some serious mental issues and personality issues.
@katieroach7940
@katieroach7940 17 дней назад
I don’t see motive, I feel like these texts show KR’s deep insecurities. She seemed to need more from JO than he could at this time. Definitely NOT motive. It’s all just so tragic 😢
@laurafratoni7931
@laurafratoni7931 17 дней назад
As a former Massachusetts police officer, I can tell you that 10 years ago at least when I was in….. accident reconstruction was VERY few and far between officers. Few knew any math, lots of nepotism, and nearly impossible to get one when you needed one so few even bothered trying.
@Alexis84DE
@Alexis84DE 17 дней назад
Doesn’t seem like much has changed 😔
@Amber2024.
@Amber2024. 17 дней назад
Wow that is so scary for the citizens there. Although I’m sure weird stuff like this happens all the time and we never know.
@JackieHorvath
@JackieHorvath 17 дней назад
Do you believe this is a cover up ? I think they intentionally skipped interviewing certain people and had to make the evidence fit the crime !!
@johnnytactical3054
@johnnytactical3054 17 дней назад
I bet being a MSP I bet you railroaded a lot of people in your time.
@l-train7876
@l-train7876 16 дней назад
@@johnnytactical3054sounds like you have some unresolved issues.
@Aunty_Vanoda_Zvinhu
@Aunty_Vanoda_Zvinhu 17 дней назад
Whoa this was hard to watch. I would have just said I can't do it, let me go LOL. This trial is a gift that keeps giving 😵‍💫 RIP John O'Keefe
@victoriar6790
@victoriar6790 17 дней назад
The fact that this “expert” not only needed to see his report every time he was asked a question, but also used the following language “I’m trying to make sure it all fits” and “I’m making sure I have my checks and balances” shows that he did come come up with his own conclusions.
@RobertBatina
@RobertBatina 17 дней назад
Whatever classes he may have taken, there was almost ZERO *application* of those lessons. 😔 He did little more than what any of US could do. 😠 Little to no science, and then basically defaulting to "well, this is what I think, but I’m an expert because I took CLASSES, guys." 😒🤦🏻‍♂️ Yet he *literally* thinks that it CANNOT be figured out if the two objects colliding are not in an absolutely straight line, and if they both aren’t vehicles. (ffs) My head hurts, this is infuriating. I seriously wonder how many innocent people this joker has helped to put in prison. 😒
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 17 дней назад
Exactly! He kept saying he "landed" like this and like that but later says there is no evidence he flew in the air! How did he LAND there then? Did he Crawl? Rolled? OR DID HE FALL THERE? Also he didn't even see a picture of how and where EXACTLY the body "landed" but his whole little map was based on those two factors! It was painful to watch
@wonder5487
@wonder5487 17 дней назад
@@fernandaolivares7926 He must've teleported along with the glass and his phone.
@nora__
@nora__ 17 дней назад
I took physics in high school and I was able to answer all of Jackson's questions in my head as he asked them. This guy just says "it did the thing and then the other thing did the other thing, and you know, that's what it was and Officer O'Keefe died, and no, nothing else is possible."
@margarethardy2894
@margarethardy2894 17 дней назад
I now realise why the U.S has one of the highest incarcerations in the world 😢This trial has proved why.Mygod I don't even want to think how many innocent people have been convicted and their lives destroyed because of BS like this.This should scare every person that lives in the U.S.
@joannephillips4110
@joannephillips4110 17 дней назад
It was by no means a thorough course. He is sadly under qualified.
@kwagesj
@kwagesj 17 дней назад
I saw a super cool video that had a dog training expert on it! He has silicone arms they use to teach dogs tonite flesh more appropriately. Bit and hold is hard to teach. So you could see all the LACERATIONS! Then he shared a video and pic of a delivery driver that was attached and bitten by a German shepherd! Omg! It looked exactly like O’Keef’s arm!!!!! I never thought his arm looked like what I thought dog bites would look like but it actually does! I really really hope they bring an actual dog person on there. I’ve always been a die hard support the police person. Never questioned it until this case. Now I’m even convinced it’s a cover up and I have NEVER believed in conspiracies!!!! FYI you are AMAZING! You have seriously changed my whole mindset on so many things. Thank you for all you do!!!
@BellCurvekiller-ww1th
@BellCurvekiller-ww1th 17 дней назад
can I ask what day of LYK coverage were the photos of the injuries shown.
@LadyLuck13
@LadyLuck13 17 дней назад
​​​@@BellCurvekiller-ww1thsearch it and loads of videos will pop up. It's not just LYK who covers this case and I'm not sure he has even shown the pics here bcos he's only covering what's shown at trial and he speeds through everything
@kathleenwalker4415
@kathleenwalker4415 17 дней назад
I saw that too def dog bites they said dogs bite down and pull up which makes those scratch marks with there k9 teeth
@enigma_-_79
@enigma_-_79 17 дней назад
“There was absolutely NO dog DNA on the samples from Officer O’Keef.” Extremely well credentialed expert witness.
@adriannabcustomfurniture
@adriannabcustomfurniture 17 дней назад
Melanie Little had the dog guy on. That's the one you're talking about.
@obaileys71
@obaileys71 17 дней назад
AJ- How did the phone end up under his body? Trooper Paul- It just did... This case, I have no words but so many questions!
@alexkasper5029
@alexkasper5029 17 дней назад
Idk to me those text messages between Karen and John sounded like the kind of fights you have at the end of a relationship. Karen didn't sound crazy jealous to me, it seemed like she wanted him to tell her he was interested in someone else or that he was done so they could just move on. If he was interested in someone else she wouldn't have to feel guilty about leaving the kids. These texts combined with the texts with Brian Higgins really don't show any motive to me. I also keep going back to the fact that she told the paramedics that they had fought the night before. If this were an act of jealousy or anger why would you volunteer that information at the crime scene? It also is super annoying to get like real, important evidence this late in the game! I don't understand why they called a thousand meaningless witnesses before bringing in these text messages.
@laimanarbute4188
@laimanarbute4188 17 дней назад
I don't even get it, the messages are so ordinary.
@alexkasper5029
@alexkasper5029 16 дней назад
@@laimanarbute4188 They really are, its so weird that people were saying they prove she killed him...
@Veshremy-fan-gaming
@Veshremy-fan-gaming 17 дней назад
Think about if Karen didnt have the $$$ for her phenomenal representation!?! She would be done for!!!
@lilg2300
@lilg2300 17 дней назад
for a fact.
@nora__
@nora__ 17 дней назад
Exactly. It's scary to think about.
@trippyhippie147_2
@trippyhippie147_2 17 дней назад
I don’t think they were thinking ahead during the coverup that someone might try and disprove all of this “stuff”
@sparkyconnect1
@sparkyconnect1 17 дней назад
And if they didn’t have the Federal investigation info.
@EddyA1337
@EddyA1337 17 дней назад
The state's case is so weak any defense attorney with experience in murder cases could beat this
@Veshremy-fan-gaming
@Veshremy-fan-gaming 17 дней назад
I am SO pissed that the taxpayers hard earned money is WASTED by the commonwealth's nonsense! If I was in this County, I'd be causing a ruckus!!!
@jaysonsorensen594
@jaysonsorensen594 17 дней назад
Well let me invite you to investigate the VA and defense department. You think this is a waste
@esthersiersema
@esthersiersema 17 дней назад
Im from the Netherlands and even Angry about this 😂 that money should have gone to poor kids in that state or schools there anything better then this ...
@00KingPin
@00KingPin 17 дней назад
Thank KR she needed to take the deal.
@SchlauSchafe
@SchlauSchafe 17 дней назад
​@00KingPin are you stupid? Why would she have taken a deal when the commonwealth's case is this bad?
@chevyhead7274
@chevyhead7274 17 дней назад
Im from Norfolk County n theres a Reason are District attorney is not liked by most people lol
@laurajreicher
@laurajreicher 17 дней назад
As a former juror on an attempted murder case, education is not as high up as credibility. Unfortunately, these guys had neither. One was an infomercial, and the other one was just plain not intelligent
@bagdadbob3391
@bagdadbob3391 17 дней назад
Very insightful. Thanks for sharing ❤
@MrsK976
@MrsK976 17 дней назад
He didn’t know the formula for momentum. He had zero idea, yet he calculated the “accident?!”
@cheerpedge41
@cheerpedge41 17 дней назад
I was forced to take physics in high school and was terrible at it. But even I know (from 10+ years ago), someone whose job it is to recreate an accident should be able to use a calculation to figure out scientifically what happened.
@mamacita8688
@mamacita8688 17 дней назад
Seems everyone is forgetting that she wasn't comfortable with the invite - John was to go in and see if she was welcome and waited in the car, he didn't respond so she sent the text "I'm going home" and left.
@GinaKlosterman
@GinaKlosterman 17 дней назад
Trooper Paul got a taste of Alan Jackson on Friday. He had ALL weekend to stress about today
@LadyLuck13
@LadyLuck13 17 дней назад
Bet his little "balloon knot" was tweaking all weekend
@MsTokra
@MsTokra 17 дней назад
I think that was strategic of the defense!
@virahpayam
@virahpayam 16 дней назад
​@@LadyLuck13😭🎈
@zeenaabdura5686
@zeenaabdura5686 17 дней назад
Several dog trainers have stated that those marks on John's arm is definitely from dog bites. They gave examples. They need dog trainer experts on this trial.
@cheerpedge41
@cheerpedge41 17 дней назад
A girl in Dallas got attacked by 2 dogs she was dog sitting a few years ago. She survived, barely. Her bite wounds look the same.
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt 16 дней назад
I will never believe that these arm injuries were NOT caused by a dog
@lynneserman6054
@lynneserman6054 18 часов назад
There was a police K9 expert who discussed this on Melanie Little's channel( lawyer) . They need him for the next trial.
@carriepepper7104
@carriepepper7104 17 дней назад
I think she was at Johns house after she dropped him off at Fairview and he was ignoring her (she thought) so she said she was going home and the kids are alone so he would reply
@kristinastoico7422
@kristinastoico7422 17 дней назад
Yes!
@annadupont7615
@annadupont7615 13 дней назад
Exactly what I thought too!
@pick363
@pick363 17 дней назад
I wish I caught this live. The key cycles are important because the 24 mph in reverse was when the tow truck driver was backing out of her parents driveway. If there is a lot of snow then the tow truck driver would have had to floor it to get it out of the driveway. They just proved with Paul that she wasn't driving the car when they claimed it was in reverse and that there is no way to recreate the accident
@savannahgary6351
@savannahgary6351 14 дней назад
@pick363...I understood Jackson's points on this issue and 100% agree with you, although Jackson didn't specifically give the answer. I watched it live and his testimony was equal parts cringe and hilarious! As a proponent of our legal system in the US, having had a career working in the legal field, i having researched, interviewed, and hired experts, I was also very outraged by this witness!
@lynneserman6054
@lynneserman6054 18 часов назад
Exactly!
@mandystone3005
@mandystone3005 17 дней назад
Lally should have known this guy was not qualified for such a complicated trial and yet he presented him as an expert. Maybe that says a lot about Lally's qualifications.
@Alison1973
@Alison1973 17 дней назад
They didn't have anyone qualified that would say the things they wanted him to say. 😂
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
It might have been better for them to not bring an expert at all if THIS was the best they could get... that or they should've check Jackson's degrees (apparently he's got a degree in Physics... maybe not the best idea to bring the guy with a middle-school understanding of physics to the cross examination against the attorney with a college degree in the subject... just saying.
@stargazerkawaii
@stargazerkawaii 17 дней назад
I can't get over how the one place this man is hit by a taillight is his arm. How do they have him positioned for the arm to be at the same height as the taillight?
@potentiallyacommentor5648
@potentiallyacommentor5648 17 дней назад
If a car was backing into him at crazy speed, why didn't he dodge? The State's theory only really works if John was a crash test dummy, was positioned perfectly, and totally unable to react to an SUV.
@sparkyconnect1
@sparkyconnect1 17 дней назад
Yes I can’t figure that out.
@Chloe.zyxwvu
@Chloe.zyxwvu 17 дней назад
@@potentiallyacommentor5648many things could have happened along the lines of him getting hit which we can’t conceive or believe until someone with certainty, confidence and conviction explains it in a convincing way. But it doesn’t matter anymore because the captain is letting the ship steer itself straight into an iceberg.
@soude85
@soude85 17 дней назад
Just the fact that he has no injuries, of any kind, on the rest of his body… How would he have to be standing, to only hit his right arm? It makes absolutely no sense, which makes his testimony even more embarrassing!
@applespace150
@applespace150 17 дней назад
@@Chloe.zyxwvu BUT no injury below neck,so no
@esthersiersema
@esthersiersema 17 дней назад
Karen Choose her lawyers Well ♥️🍀✅
@MeganSpruce90
@MeganSpruce90 17 дней назад
26:17 62 feet from the fire hydrant is just about to the mailbox...where Higgins' jeep was supposedly parked! The numbers definitely dont add up... there is no way she went 62 feet, at 24mph in 5 seconds, in reverse..... i dont get it!
@nitsakalkinis4135
@nitsakalkinis4135 17 дней назад
Did nobody hear the last Tropper say “kill me” when being questioned after a sigh???😅😅😅
@bonnienelson7373
@bonnienelson7373 17 дней назад
Yes!!! It was clear as can be!!! Crazy... pretty sad the CW made these Troopers lie!?!
@michele36618
@michele36618 17 дней назад
Yes !! I was listening to Andrea when it happened. I was driving and I almost had to pull over bc I was laughing so hard. Because I had thought the same thing few minutes before, I was being bored to death lol. That poor guy 😂
@roseytwinksmnk2932
@roseytwinksmnk2932 17 дней назад
Do guys have a timestamp?
@CS-lm5re
@CS-lm5re 17 дней назад
@@roseytwinksmnk29321:33:00
@stolencoats63
@stolencoats63 17 дней назад
​@@roseytwinksmnk2932 1:34:00
@KrHar
@KrHar 17 дней назад
About KR texts to John: Those texts after 12:45am to John are totally in her character from what we have seen from their relationship so far. It would be more strange if she had gone silent afterwards or if her tone would have softened towards him.
@enigma_-_79
@enigma_-_79 17 дней назад
The texts showed that Karen Read is a classic Bunny Boiler. JOK had, according to his children, told her repeatedly to leave his home because the relationship had “run its course” and was “toxic.” Children said that she refused to leave and would chase after JOK, screaming at him. She wasn’t invited to the night out, his friends can’t stand to be around her, so she lied, saying she was going out drinking when she appeared at the bar in Canton. She didn’t want JOK to go to the Alberts because she didn’t feel welcome, but he went anyway. She flew into a rage and backed her car into him, leaving him to die in the cold. She was with him when he died after lying, saying that she left him in the Waterfall Bar. She only admitted to having brought him to the Alberts after she knew she had been seen. Read claimed that she hit him to numerous people, even saying to her own father that she definitely “struck something.” Read only invented the conspiracy story after she bought Alan Jackson for $1,000,000. Read is a liar. She lied about the state of her relationship with John, she lied about events in Aruba, she lied about having driven him to the Alberts, she lied about how many drinks she had drank and she lied about going home to Mansfield. Read was a cheat. She tried to start something with her bf colleague, even turning up at his apartment uninvited. He didn’t sleep with her, he dodged a bullet. Read started a relationship with a man who had two children when she knew that she didn’t like or want children herself. The children testified that Read either screamed at them or gave them the silent treatment when she was displeased with them. She insisted that they were put in a hotel room in Atuba, alone and on the other side of the hotel. She didn’t “bring in the New Year with “Johns children,” she was blind drunk, obnoxious and embarrassing, screaming obscenities at one of Johns long-time friends little sister. Frankly, Read is a mess. She’s getting on for 50 yrs old and can’t keep a relationship going. I’d love to hear from her ex’es. Read is guilty. She’s an alcoholic with rage issues who hounded John because he wanted to break up with her. She felt that he didn’t support her when she was a NFI at the Alberts. No sh;t. Bunny Boiler.
@michellesayers5346
@michellesayers5346 17 дней назад
@@enigma_-_79lol do be quiet McAlbert/higgins
@lockout999
@lockout999 17 дней назад
@@enigma_-_79LOG OFF JEN SHE DIDNT HIT HIM!! GIVE UP!!
@enigma_-_79
@enigma_-_79 17 дней назад
@@lockout999 ^^ Typical member of the Karen Read/Terrapin Kid Fan Club. No facts, no thought, no analysis, just screaming. You don’t intimidate me. I feel sorry for you.
@gmpick9793
@gmpick9793 17 дней назад
@@enigma_-_79. None of his injuries match to being hit by a vehicle. Did you not hear the testimony today? His arm was struck and shattered a taillight into 47 pieces and only left scratches on his arm? Not to mention there were taillight pieces everywhere so it had to explode when she hit him and if the point of impact was his arm why isn’t it at the least broken or fractured. For that taillight to break like that it hit something hard or better yet was hit by something hard not a soft body. Use your brain.
@brendatherrien7716
@brendatherrien7716 17 дней назад
Peter, You missed the importance of the key cycle. This guy was saying, 2 key cycles before he got the car - that is when the events occurred driving backwards at 24 mph. Jackson was making the point that when the car was at Fairview rd, that was 4 key cycles before he got the car. he did not count the 2 key cycles of the car being turned off and on 2 times to get car off and on flatbed. so the car was at the cop shop when that event happened (driving backwards at 24 mph,
@jeffhampton7405
@jeffhampton7405 17 дней назад
I’m not sure how you aren’t convinced by the key cycle argument or why you think it was her who sped backwards. It’s just a record of the car being turned on, and the car was demonstrably turned on and off multiple times after it was confiscated. So if the state is right that it happened on cycle 1162, it couldn’t possibly be i her driving in reverse at that speed. Unless the car’s data is completely unreliable, but if that’s the case there’s no reason to believe she drove backwards at a high rate of speed.
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 17 дней назад
As far as I could work out, she was at Fairview at key cycle 1158
@primalcritters
@primalcritters 17 дней назад
Man Jackson was amazing. The part about the pirouette had me dying. I don't know how Jackson held a straight face. Trooper Paul is a proud to C student. In all honesty though, I actually felt really badly for him. He was so incredibly nervous, stuttering, shaky, grabbing his throat, drinking water, blinking rapidly that you can tell he is not a bad person and he was forced to do this by the higher-ups. Trooper Paul should really get the heck away from the corrupt Canton PD because he does not belong there.
@JerbPa
@JerbPa 17 дней назад
I rewatched that so many times! This guy delivers on the entertainment value.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
That shows how lost he is, flies through the air, no projected. He can't use normal terms in place of the jargon ones.
@jennifersandahl4603
@jennifersandahl4603 17 дней назад
That was also my assessment, watching it.
@michellesayers5346
@michellesayers5346 17 дней назад
@@JerbPahe will be the one to crack
@avp6730
@avp6730 17 дней назад
You're too generous. He is incompetent and doesn't realize it.
@julie5845
@julie5845 17 дней назад
Jackson said that’s exactly what she was trying to do. Get him to come home
@rjburrows94
@rjburrows94 17 дней назад
It's absolutely horrifying that the state of Massachusetts would employ such an unqualified person as an expert in a murder case.
@debijo5288
@debijo5288 17 дней назад
Omg yes it so bad it's horrible. That guy needs more schooling.
@AngeSFO
@AngeSFO 17 дней назад
You should see the “Experts “ at the SEC when my husband went to work there after 35+ years in Fixed Income and running trading and sales depts at Schwab and Vanguard and other depts they had one expert in Fixed income who knew nothing and they have a “rule “ they can only have one expert per type of security….its a joke
@truethat774
@truethat774 17 дней назад
Especially knowing Jackson would tear him apart on cross!
@shkrjam84
@shkrjam84 17 дней назад
Because a true expert wouldn’t have been able to come to the conclusion that supported their theory, and I think they know that. But defense team didn’t object to CW using as expert, because it only helps them.
@hiraethey
@hiraethey 17 дней назад
Hits even worse after today's voir dire tbh 🫤 Trooper Paul is an "expert" with 120 hours of class and his conclusion, including that the evidence "just ended up where it did" is enough to charge murder; but a biomechanical engineer can't testify about his opinion on the possible origins of JO's wounds? When Mr. Lally questioned the first witness' credentials when she apparently has barbie's resume I had to turn off the stream for a few minutes to calm down.
@stephanietexas1325
@stephanietexas1325 17 дней назад
I cannot believe the prosecution is attacking the accuracy of Cellebrite. That’s gonna backfire
@annm9589
@annm9589 17 дней назад
As it stands without the defense testimony, I find the expert credible. We will see what defense expert says.
@OneBadAssMoMo
@OneBadAssMoMo 17 дней назад
Every time the prosecutor puts another witness on the stand, I just get more confused! 🤔 it makes less sense every single day!
@orianjuarez3074
@orianjuarez3074 17 дней назад
I started watching day 19. I'm lost.🤷‍♀️Justice for Officer John O'Keefe, RIP.🙏🏽👮🏻‍♂️⚖️
@mary-chrisstaples9767
@mary-chrisstaples9767 17 дней назад
You’re not alone.
@go_dawgs1776
@go_dawgs1776 17 дней назад
These prosecutors and this case has really made me lose faith in our justice system. It’s so scary to see play out. If this was my son’s investigation & trial & experts, I’d be furious. If I was Karen Read/Defendant, I’d be furious as I fought for my freedom. Who wins here.
@Cali8842
@Cali8842 17 дней назад
This one and every one coming out of Fulton county lately.
@bellab9286
@bellab9286 17 дней назад
I do think she did actually hit him... Sideswiped like this guy thinks. That's more likely than this elaborate cover up where they left him on their own lawn ( but that is a good defense to try). She was probably drunk ( that's why she went to the waterfall and didn't remember going to the Albert's, bc if she did remember dropping him there than they should have been one of if not the first place to go out the first people to reach out to) and she had no idea she side swiped him at all.... That's probably less likely to notice than hitting someone dead on... Especially when backing up I would think that's easier to not notice. In the end I believe it was an accident, if anything at all it should have been charged just as that.... Even though they lost trust with the investigation they still have to try to get some justice for John's family... Definitely shouldn't have uped the charges like that though.
@landontesar3070
@landontesar3070 17 дней назад
Jackson missed his own question, acceleration is the rate of CHANGE of velocity, not the Rate of velocity
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 17 дней назад
Where is the Medical Examiner? The jury/we are supposed to take all this evidence and guess how it may or may not apply depending on what injuries/damage were actually found in the autopsy?
@user-dt8rc7ql9y
@user-dt8rc7ql9y 17 дней назад
@@bellab9286idk personally. You’re right, it’s more plausible. But I find it very hard to believe that no one saw him coming out of the home that night, no one saw an over 6 ft man laying in the snow? The snowplow driver didn’t see him either…. Then their messages about how long to die in cold? That’s really weird (& time stamps work for every trial in history except this one) by bringing in that witness for 1 case, the commonwealth gives reasonable doubt to every future case, this is a weird testimony. Then you have them saying that they didn’t see him in the home, rehoming the dog that they had for years, getting rid of the carpet in the basement, etc. but on the other hand, it’s very hard to believe so many ppl would part of a cover up! Truthfully I’m starting to believe that him and his wife did see him in the home and something happened and they tried to blame it on Karen. Not everyone has to be involved…. Just those 2. He could have not been seen in the snow bc he wasn’t there to see until they put him there. & no one else knew anything about it at all… they only know that he was dead the next morning and then someone plants that it was Karen. I would not put it past a cop at all to put someone they harmed outside and blame it on a drunk person, especially if no one else saw anything. Bc no one say anything…. So I don’t think it’s this elaborate cover up, bc it’s not elaborate; there’s lots of holes, possible evidence, etc. but if the cop harmed him and no one seen it he could easily put him in the snow and say he believed it was Karen, and then he personally charged Karen. It would be that simple, since no one seen anything. It’s just a lot of crazy incidences happening with them that align with the defense too. Gosh it’s like insane. Regardless, idk how anyone could convict bc there’s enough reasonable doubt to sink a continent. 🤷‍♀️
@88jeebs
@88jeebs 17 дней назад
He 100% says "kill me". The sigh substantiates it IMO.
@Glitterbeauties
@Glitterbeauties 17 дней назад
The big issues w this case is that his injuries DO NOT match being hit by a 7,00O pound car. He had NO bruising, NO broken bones, NO injuries below the neck. He had two black eyes, blunt force trauma to the BACK of the head and no blood found on any curb showing that he hit his head. He had lacerations to his face and PUNCTURE wounds to the arm and yet NOTHING was on the SUV, no DNA, NO SKIN, NO BLOOD. I believe the information the informant brought forward and it matches their behavior almost identical. He was beaten up by Colin who had swollen knuckles, by Brian Albert who didn’t show his face after he was found, he threw up and convulsed on the basement floor…basement floor was ripped up. Etc etc etc etc…..I can go on and on but there is more suspicious activity showing they did this than Karen. Oh and let’s not forget the two unknown DNA profiles found in the blood ON HIS PANTS that was never tested against Colin or Brian. John didn’t bleed out 3 different profiles 😮‍💨
@kenh9371
@kenh9371 17 дней назад
Joe Paul must have had no idea that prior to being a Lawyer, Alan Jackson was a trained jet engine engineer with the US Air Force and holds dozens of certificates in jet propulsion.... aka more of an expert in physics than he is.
@VictoriaLeigh313
@VictoriaLeigh313 17 дней назад
Really? Edited to add: damn! I just looked into this and you are absolutely correct 🤣 I would have been just as nervous as the trooper "expert" during cross. 😱
@kenh9371
@kenh9371 17 дней назад
@@VictoriaLeigh313 yeah he is kind of a badass
@amandamacabre
@amandamacabre 17 дней назад
this makes the cross so much funnier. There's no way Lally knew that either imo
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
​@amandamacabre I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't done on purpose. This guy was so incompetant Lally gotta know that.
@amandamacabre
@amandamacabre 17 дней назад
@@Songbirdstress I saw a comment suggesting he's trying to get all this out for the Feds' investigation but I feel like that's giving this whole thing too much credit 😂
@ScottyPeabody
@ScottyPeabody 17 дней назад
It’s hard to believe, given the extraordinary exposure of this case that the state used an expert witness with an “Associates Degree”. LOL. That’s a wrap.
@MCT2013
@MCT2013 17 дней назад
He got the “low down” about the accident from a “bunch of guys”😂
@Spicy_Lavender
@Spicy_Lavender 17 дней назад
I don’t think Lally could find an actual expert that would buy into their story, so this guy is what they were left with.
@lizweiss9560
@lizweiss9560 17 дней назад
I feel like the defense took the offense in this trial and the prosecution has been on the defense this entire trial. I mean a whole witness was used to exonerate Jen McCabe
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
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@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 17 дней назад
And even then, was she exonerated? I'm a smart cookie and I still don't understand the digital forensics.
@masonman2006
@masonman2006 17 дней назад
If she dropped him off why would she need to back up so far to hit him? Wouldn’t she have dropped him off where she stopped prior to backing? It doesn’t make sense why he would be so far behind her.
@ThatGirlT77
@ThatGirlT77 17 дней назад
Why is no one talking about Matt McCabe being an IT guy? He could have easily got rid of the search and/or edited the info. Also, this is not a trial for Jen McCabe..
@neilcrowley5232
@neilcrowley5232 17 дней назад
I think she could b described as an unindited co conspirator though. She was the puppet master, no question there.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 17 дней назад
There were a couple of questions to that effect...Well see.
@andreasmith5065
@andreasmith5065 17 дней назад
BINGO
@laurajreicher
@laurajreicher 14 дней назад
“I don’t care how ridiculous it sounds, I’m sticking with it…” brilliance leaves me speechless Peter! 👏👏👏bravo
@laurajreicher
@laurajreicher 14 дней назад
Then trooper Paul doubles down. He should’ve said l, “kill me now”
@drick5493
@drick5493 17 дней назад
It’s horrifying to think what would happen to a defendant who was stuck with a low level defense attorney or public defender. Thank god she and her family have the resources to defend herself and expose the corruption.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
There's also a good chance that the attorneys she has took this on pro-bono or for a reduced amount since this is getting plenty of publicity and that publicity is for all the wrong reasons for the CW.
@csKiosk
@csKiosk 17 дней назад
I know the text messages and the voice messages are supposed to look bad for Karen, but I see it like this. She sent a lot of that stuff after he was killed. It wouldn’t make any sense for her to have that much anger and be so upset if she knew he died if anything, she would take any sort of suspicion off her and try to not contact him at all. That only shows that she was upset with him never would she or anybody in their right mind or even wrong mind send all that stuff after they supposedly killed their partner. It makes absolutely no sense and, I remember being in a relationship where I have said the ugliest things out of anger to someone I loved very much because I was so upset and I can only see that as being in love with someone and never would I want to hurt them. it’s just your anger and being upset because it’s not working the way you want it tobecause you do want it to work
@nitsakalkinis4135
@nitsakalkinis4135 17 дней назад
John seemed like a narcasstic bf!! He had her walking on egg shells and used her to be a mom and as soon as she did something wrong “like going to Dunkin😅) he would go on and on!! Kept her around cuz no other single girl would do that if she didn’t love him.
@silviacarolinalangowski8442
@silviacarolinalangowski8442 17 дней назад
I think women understand this more, I have sent to an ex-partner who didn't come home until 6 am, text messages, then we broke up, not acceptable to me!
@kp50065
@kp50065 17 дней назад
That was the most painful “specialist”. The nurse charting equivalent? I went into a room gave the patient some medicine stuff. the patients room told me the vitals were okish. Did some stuff to the wound on one of the extremities, will follow up likely, Will continue to monitor patient probably.
@foxymama9203
@foxymama9203 17 дней назад
😂😂😂 I just pictured my nursing school instructors clutching their rosaries (I went to a Catholic nursing program)! That was a perfect analogy!
@worsethanjoerogan8061
@worsethanjoerogan8061 17 дней назад
Lmao
@lynneserman6054
@lynneserman6054 17 часов назад
Love this.
@primalcritters
@primalcritters 17 дней назад
Omg.."did the crime scene say anything else?" 😂😂😂
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 17 дней назад
I knoooww 😂
@trevorseath7267
@trevorseath7267 17 дней назад
In the early stages of AJ’s cross, it feels as though he’s trying to help the CW’s expert to develop his opinion in real time. It’s a trail of bread crumbs leading to a cliff’s edge!!
@sjlar1981
@sjlar1981 17 дней назад
Isn’t it even more inconceivable that someone with snow covering their mirrors, cameras, back window etc managed to reverse at that speed, in the dark, ( allegedly DUI) and “intentionally” hit their target
@tfolger1305
@tfolger1305 16 дней назад
YES YES YES!
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 17 дней назад
Everyone has blown up a phone before 🤷🏻‍♀️. The number of calls and texts is not evidence of anything
@dturner8567
@dturner8567 17 дней назад
Everyone keeps missing this - A Lexus SUV (I have one) tail light is NOT up by a man’s shoulder. I am a 5’4” woman, and the tail light comes to my hip area.!!!!!!!
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
And for this info nugget, you probably would've made a better expert witness for the prosecution than this guy.
@Theressomethingwrongwiththem
@Theressomethingwrongwiththem 17 дней назад
😬😬 That hurt. #owie It's a sad day when a judge allows the "expert" designation to be attached to a cop that took a couple of cop-sponsored/taught classes. Law enforcement in America is as lacking as our infrastructure. 😒 I'm just about speechless as to why why why why why the CW didn't even bother to find a Pay-For-Play expert. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 17 дней назад
I can't figure out the why behind a lot of what the CW has done so far.
@jess_marie_79
@jess_marie_79 17 дней назад
Lally literally lied so many times to defense and the judge before the federal grand jury minutes were released. I think this is why AJ is angry. He was accused of terrible things by Lally prior to the grand jury. I watched some of the pre-trial hearings and I was shocked.
@pretzel_cat
@pretzel_cat 17 дней назад
I’m interested in seeing some of those hearings. Do you happen to know of a RU-vid channel or other place where they are collected?
@niks44
@niks44 17 дней назад
Law & crime network will have .. you have to search
@s.d.s.3119
@s.d.s.3119 17 дней назад
Please tell me the defence has hired a Physics Professor from MIT as one of their expert witnesses! Seems like a no brainer. And does everyone reverse doing 24mph???? That is unheard of! I cannot imagine going that fast in reverse unless I were a stunt driver. I would also focus on disproving that if I were the defence. I do not see how it is possible to reach that speed in such a short distance and not lose control of the vehicle. Is it possible the wheels spun on snow or ice showing 24mph?
@davidreece5867
@davidreece5867 17 дней назад
The defense has two accident reconstruction experts, both with PhDsone in physics and one in biomechanics engineering that were hired by the FBI
@tonystevenson26
@tonystevenson26 16 дней назад
Karen had done some stunt driving it appears
@kristinm3657
@kristinm3657 17 дней назад
Me, who’s never closed a tab on my phone ever, watching this: 😵‍💫
@potentiallyacommentor5648
@potentiallyacommentor5648 17 дней назад
The point of the "keycycle stuff" is that the "expert" has no idea when the data he used was logged. He found some data, assumed it was from the time in question, then did the reconstruction based on his own unjustified assumption. The worst part was when he admitted he had no idea how keycycle/ignition cycle works.
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 17 дней назад
That is a big deal!
@soude85
@soude85 17 дней назад
Yes, it is a huge deal because the car was already in police possession when the “cycle trigger” was recorded!
@denisia1111
@denisia1111 17 дней назад
During Tpr Paul's testimony John O'Keefes brother looked broken. I think it's starting to dawn on him Karen didn't hurt John. All the rage n anger is going to be directed somewhere else and that realization is sickening. It's at the same ppl who showed up at his parents home, told them to send the niece to Canton high over the private school John was so proud of, same ppl that helped the MST "solve" the case, and interjected themselves into his families lives. That is depraved and disturbing.
@susanlane214
@susanlane214 17 дней назад
Complete betrayal.
@neilcrowley5232
@neilcrowley5232 17 дней назад
Side issue, but I can't believe he was allowed to sit so near KR,
@Bigslick99578
@Bigslick99578 17 дней назад
The OKeefe family are idiots. How this wasn’t obvious to them from the very beginning is mind blowing.
@T.Socorso
@T.Socorso 17 дней назад
The only way that I could see Karen being found guilty, would be if there is Jury tampering.
@JackieHorvath
@JackieHorvath 17 дней назад
My husband said the exact same thing ! That these jurors could be afraid of these police
@primalcritters
@primalcritters 17 дней назад
Those are dog maul lacerations on his arm. While Brian and Colin Albert attacked him in the basement they punched him so hard causing the two black eyes, the cut on his nose (and John had bruised knuckles from fighting back), that he fell back and hit his head causing the blunt force injury on the basement floor. He lost 3 LITERS of blood and it was not found in the snow or the lawn. Head injuries bleed a Lot and I mean a lot. They did NOT find all that blood in the snow or lawn or street and that's because it was in the basement and the LE Never searched that home. It was in that basement and that's why they ripped up the flooring before they sold the home. Also, I am extremely familiar with dog bites and the mechanics of dog bites. I've been attacked I've done protection dog training and I've rescued German shepherds and bred them for 20 years. Those are 100% dog attack lacerations from the maxill part of the dog's mouth connecting and tearing out his flesh. John's long shirt provided enough resistance that Chloe's bite kept slipping and so she would regripped over and over. Trained police or bite dog she would have never let go but because she was untrained that's why she kept regripping. If you want confirmation watch Melanie Little attorney with American Standard K-9 of former police dog trainer and he will show you visuals of near identical dog attack lacerations. There are many dog mauling survivors that have scars that you would never think are from a dog. Even just the top of their mouth connecting can cut your skin like a knife. People have a lot of misconceptions that dogs only leave symmetrical punctures. That is actually rare. I forgot to add, then they moved the Ford Edge to block the path while they dragged out his body instead of calling 911 because he had a seizure and vomited after the blunt force trauma when he fell and hit his head in the basement to plant him on the lawn and frame the snow plow driver. Unfortunately Karen found him first. Two important things. Jen McCabe did make that search at 2:27 a.m. anyone that does code will tell you that Apple iPhones time stamp the time you close the browser which means that search was made at or slightly before 2:27 a.m. but never could have occurred hours later. The true cellebrite expert from the FBI will clear this up for you. Ask anyone that does code and they will confirm the same. Secondly, lucky the snow plow driver around 2:00 a.m. drove by and saw NO body. Then about an hour later around 3:00 something he drove by again and he saw a Ford Edge parked exactly where the body was. They moved the Ford Edge that the Albert's owned so that they could have cover while they dragged his body out.
@richardbotsford5089
@richardbotsford5089 17 дней назад
YESS. that is how if perceive the situation,
@Dogtopia641
@Dogtopia641 17 дней назад
This post shows actual expertise- thank you!
@jenRN302
@jenRN302 17 дней назад
100% agree! Also, how would the right arm hit the right rear taillight and there are no injuries to his torso? So her car JUST hit the arm and he died? Not buying it.
@virahpayam
@virahpayam 16 дней назад
​@@jenRN302"Just hit his arm and he died" 😭🪦 I know this is serious, but that made me cackle, lol
@lynneserman6054
@lynneserman6054 17 часов назад
Excellently put.
@ScottyPeabody
@ScottyPeabody 17 дней назад
A 2023 Lexus RX350 will go 0-60 in about 7.3 seconds so how could it possibly get to 24 mph in 52 feet? IMPOSSIBLE
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 17 дней назад
Inverse Blizzard Physics of Canton Massachusetts.
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 17 дней назад
It was a Lexus 570. I don't know what difference that makes. I still drive cars over 25 years old 😂
@deepstatethrombosis
@deepstatethrombosis 17 дней назад
If O'Keefe managed to hold on to the glass after being stuck by a 7klb SUV, that's some The Dude level of beverage protection. "hey, man, there's a beverage here!"
@nhlpens583
@nhlpens583 17 дней назад
😂😂😂 A white Russian 😂😂
@denisia1111
@denisia1111 17 дней назад
That's what he gets for helping a guy in the Alps.
@user-my5xp2vi6g
@user-my5xp2vi6g 17 дней назад
😂 good one!
@maximoo79
@maximoo79 17 дней назад
This is actually very scary. These troopers are giving evidence in other trials to convict people based on what?? Nothing as they have no knowledge!!! I mean I am just…… 😮. Wow!
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
Ngl, I was getting so snarky when he was saying "the scene told me this". I just kept laughing and going "oh, did it whisper this bit to you and shout that bit to you?"
@DinnyBoo
@DinnyBoo 17 дней назад
Did you catch the last witness say under his breath near the end of direct by Lally, “Just kill me” ?
@alisonstark1258
@alisonstark1258 17 дней назад
and yet another Trooper is now off to be 'rehomed'
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 17 дней назад
Yet they will keep Proctor.
@Bigslick99578
@Bigslick99578 17 дней назад
Yep another career down in flames. Retry every case this bald idiot was an “expert” on
@LindaCorley-bb2yt
@LindaCorley-bb2yt 17 дней назад
What’s really bad is that he was training someone else that day. Wow
@fefejones81
@fefejones81 17 дней назад
Alan Jackson was in the US Air Force and served as a jet mechanic. I reckon he knows exactly what he’s talking about.
@hansingleton
@hansingleton 17 дней назад
Trooper Paul must never testify to other complicated crashes otherwise he would just get destroyed. Makes me wonder how many people end up taking plea deals, because they were definitely banking on KR doing that in this case
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 17 дней назад
It's scary how much cell phones can be used against people and every word turn into something monstrous. If you took the daily ramblings people said out loud I am sure you could make the same argument. Not to mention talk about timing of text, when you signed on or off. What a nightmare when you think about it. A garbage but semi plausible case could be made against anyone this way with only the tiniest shred of real evidence or motive. And this one does seem obviously ridiculous.
@enigma_-_79
@enigma_-_79 17 дней назад
The texts showed that Karen Read is a classic Bunny Boiler. JOK had, according to his children, told her repeatedly to leave his home because the relationship had “run its course” and was “toxic.” Children said that she refused to leave and would chase after JOK, screaming at him. She wasn’t invited to the night out, his friends can’t stand to be around her, so she lied, saying she was going out drinking when she appeared at the bar in Canton. She didn’t want JOK to go to the Alberts because she didn’t feel welcome, but he went anyway. She flew into a rage and backed her car into him, leaving him to die in the cold. She was with him when he died after lying, saying that she left him in the Waterfall Bar. She only admitted to having brought him to the Alberts after she knew she had been seen. Read claimed that she hit him to numerous people, even saying to her own father that she definitely “struck something.” Read only invented the conspiracy story after she bought Alan Jackson for $1,000,000. Read is a liar. She lied about the state of her relationship with John, she lied about events in Aruba, she lied about having driven him to the Alberts, she lied about how many drinks she had drank and she lied about going home to Mansfield. Read was a cheat. She tried to start something with her bf colleague, even turning up at his apartment uninvited. He didn’t sleep with her, he dodged a bullet. Read started a relationship with a man who had two children when she knew that she didn’t like or want children herself. The children testified that Read either screamed at them or gave them the silent treatment when she was displeased with them. She insisted that they were put in a hotel room in Atuba, alone and on the other side of the hotel. She didn’t “bring in the New Year with “Johns children,” she was blind drunk, obnoxious and embarrassing, screaming obscenities at one of Johns long-time friends little sister. Frankly, Read is a mess. She’s getting on for 50 yrs old and can’t keep a relationship going. I’d love to hear from her ex’es. Read is guilty. She’s an alcoholic with rage issues who hounded John because he wanted to break up with her. She felt that he didn’t support her when she was a NFI at the Alberts. No sh;t. Bunny Boiler.
@Stacy-
@Stacy- 17 дней назад
​@@enigma_-_79 - Do we have to go through this again? Nothing you offered is real evidence. You can't convict someone because you don't like them or their behavior.
@enigma_-_79
@enigma_-_79 17 дней назад
@@Stacy- Who do you think you’re talking to? I don’t care for your tone. Have some respect if you’re going to respond to comments. I don’t have to “go through” anything with you, in fact, I’d much prefer not to. Are you the only person who is entitled to have an opinion? You are entitled, but you don’t have a monopoly on opinions.
@Stacy-
@Stacy- 17 дней назад
@@enigma_-_79 - I'm talking to you, as I stated with the @engima.... Your cutting & pasting the same irrelevant argument under several people's comments. It was meant to be funny & sarcastic because I already responded to this exact comment under another person's post. So that was what I was referring to when I said, do we have to go over this again... As a joke. You can't tell what my "tone" is because a tone is the manner in which you speak, not write. As I previously explained, you can't convict someone of 2nd degree murder based on their personality or behavior in a relationship.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 4 дня назад
​@@enigma_-_79you sound like Jen McAlbert or whatever her name is. Did you have fun learning that it's not as easy to gaslight a courtroom as it is your victim's family? Whatever, yall deserved the mistrial and you deserve the feds coming down on you. Looking forward to what you have to say then, dearie 😉
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