Looking back at Capcom vs SNK 2, a true masterpiece among Fighting Games! 

I love this game as much as you do. I even went out and got a modded dreamcast from ebay solely for this! I hope we can see it make a comeback in the future.

JFC, 20 years old? LMFAO, damn I'm getting old. I remember when this game first dropped. It was freaking awesome!

I love this game. Great review. I just wish they included Blue Mary,Andy,and Billy Kane. Never understood why they where left out.

it's on fightcade

@@kiriljurjev it's not rollback, the emulator sucks

I see some AI software can remaster pixel sprites into HD quality, wish it would come true for CVS2

@@kiriljurjev Null BEAR seems to be the better route.

If you don't say, "I'm gonna be honest", are you lying?

5. Many fans

As much as I love CvS2. I'd say they could have made the cast and grooves more diverse. This was essentially Street Fighter vs KoF with just a few added characters from other games. I would have liked it if they had cut down on Street Fighter and KoF characters and added more characters from their other fighting games. And perhaps added a Dark Stalkers groove a Project Justice groove instead of A and P and so on.

@@zhaf Yea CvS1 was even worse, the only characters that weren't from either SF or KOF were Morrigan and Nakoruru. So i was thankful CvS2 at least gave us characters like Haohmaru, Hibiki, and Kyosuke.

6. A great soundtrack

Many fun

Every. Time

This is tuna with bacon

more games should have that, super Saiyan ken vs fist of north star ryu was childhood

Now imagine if it would be implemented today... 1.99$ please.

@@chicco5033 nah 4.99

@@adolphineatingchildren2641 omg Kenshiro Ryu is such a good idea, I'll do it lol, I had a "Oni Dan" which consisted of a shadowy Dan lol

@@chicco5033 tbh it was free in SF X TEKKEN

the Rugal Guile intro is SUCH a meta deep cut

Then you had 60% understanding of nirvana and bliss, way ahead of the pack 👼

I thought I was the only to who didn’t fully understand how to play this game

Same

harder to re-release things when multiple companies are involved. That said(and you can see the vid I made on it a few weeks back) things are in a really good spot on that front with SNK and Capcom lately, so there's a strong chance

@@rooflemonger 🤞

It's probably on it's way... 🤞🏿

Might be coming back soon!

@@legalam Ha! Buddy...the big WHAT IF...A sequel? More characters from a wider variety of games on both sides and individual interactions between said characters??? More grooves AND perhaps a way to create your own groove? It has been over 20 friggin years but the hype has returned! Even if we just get to reintroduce CVS 1 or 2 with top quality netcode, generations of new competitors await...I'm in.

Nice! And here I am, 36 y/o, starting my fighting game carrer (bought all these games and having a blast!). hahaha

@@filipedeataideramos *carrier

@@shen-long9082 Thank you:)

haha never thought of it that way, true enough! I guess Robert is just a lot richer than Ken is.

@@rooflemonger Doesn't the Garcia family fortune keep the Art of Fighting gang afloat? Like, a whole dojo and marketing?

@@themasterblaze7563 probably, Robert paid for kings friends bills in AoF2, so he probably just bankrolls everything

Yea i always thought it was weird that Robert helped finance the tournament along with Ken but wasn't in the roster, lol.

Deep 420

Right!!!

Along with some tuna and bacon, _for good measure._

on the whole fighting games are much more polished these days than back in the day, but the old games certainly left their mark

@@rooflemonger Ehh true, but fighting games nowadays (in my opinion at least) are more "sanitized", dry, and, safe. At lot of the unbalanced, wacky, and busted stuff is what made older fighting games so fun, lol. Games like CvS2, MvC2, Super Turbo, KOF '98, UMK3, etc had some janky degenerate stuff but they were fun. Fighting games nowadays are so focused on being balanced that they aren't as fun (games like MK 11 and SF5 come to mind)

@@orlanzo2621 older games for sure more wacky and imbalanced, but thats exactly the kinda thing people won't stand for anymore honestly. People can like the jank, but its much harder for jank to find legs these days.

@@rooflemonger that's cos people are dumb. Less than 0.1% of all the matches that will ever played on these games are not gonna be competitive/esports etc. Fighting games have never been only about pro esports. That's a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of what makes up fighting games. Back in the 90s we used to play fighting games because we enjoyed them. That's it. They were just good games. Nowadays every naive fool who thinks they can win evo complains about the balancing in games even though you have to be a top 0.01% player in the world for any of that to actually make a difference. It's only at the very highest level that anything like that really matters. Fighting games used to be good because they were games first, competitive sports second. It was fun to just play on your own in story mode. But apparently now we have to accommodate all the people who are terrible and will always be terrible but think they'll actually be a successful pro esports player. It's so stupid. Make fighting games fun again. These aren't supposed to be a job, where you have to put in hours and hours of practice each day and if you never do that you'll never have fun. No these games are supposed to be fun regardless of skill level. At least the ones in the 90s and early 2000s did. Even things like tier lists simply do not matter for 99.999% of players. They're just not good enough for it to matter. They can pick the best character in the game or the worst, there'll be no difference. It's only at the top level where the margins are so razor thin that those kinds of things really matter. I guess this is the modern day version of every kid getting a guitar and thinking they're gonna be a world famous rock star. They won't. They should just learn to enjoy having fun playing guitar for its own sake, not try to be competitive when they're not good enough. Fighting games should go back to being fun, and the naive kids should stop kidding themselves. They're all so so so worried about balance even though they'll never be good enough for it to actually affect them. Just enjoy the game, play the character who you think looks the coolest, don't worry about any of the pro-level stuff, you'll never need it. Like it you're gonna go play catch with someone, you don't need to do a months-long MLB training regimen and diet plan with personal world class trainers etc in the months leading up to the big day where you... play catch with your dad. No you just go and play catch. You'll never be good at baseball, you'll never be in the MLB, so don't worry about any of that stuff, and just try to enjoy what you _CAN_ do, what you _ARE_ capable of. Enjoy playing catch. Enjoy playing really dumb, sometimes when really badly made, fighting games. Like, I dunno, clayfighter. It ain't a good fighting game but it's very fun, it's a hell of a lot more fun than trying to jump into a modern street fighter game. And therefore it's the better game. Seriously. Clayfighter is better than street fighter 4 and 5. And it's because those street fighters have lost what made them popular in the first place, EVERYONE played street fighter, and nobody was really very good at it for years, not until tournaments began popping up with legitimate cash prizes, mostly after the 20th century had already ended. Everyone played street fighter before then, and nobody was really very good at it relative to today, and so practically anybody could win at least a few rounds, so everyone had a good time and enjoyed it. Who's gonna casually pick up a fighting game these days? It's something you have to commit to these days, like a job, you have to be dedicated to getting better at it, otherwise you don't have fun with it at all, and even if you do get good at it it's never really fun, not in the way street fighter 2 was. It was so much better back in the day when people weren't going "hmm I could play as Zangief but he doesn't have a lot of good options for overcoming projectile spam blah blah blah blah". No, people just went "hah, that Russian wrestler guy looks cool, I'll pick him". That's what fighting games don't have anymore. Over balancing makes most fighting games worse, not better. Not every single character needs to have every option. Like you don't need to give Zangief zoning tools. Keep each character very distinct. Not every character has to be top tier.

@@rooflemonger Don’t you mean, left their mark of the millennium 🤣

Playing shooters

That's be so cool omg

When I went to Mexico as a kid, like deep country mexico, a local tiendita had MvC and we wasted soany fucking pesos on that machine

@@arod6079able yeah dude those were our arcades, the maquinitas

@@sharksocks8130 en el soriana they had some arcades and a movie theater even. I remember when mvc2 first came out they had it on this huge machine that was like the centerpiece of the arcade. For me that game was just overwhelmingly good. I had to have it on the dreamcast. Thankfully I was old enough by that point to know how to aquire games to begin with, especially being in mexico. For so long I relied on rentals at the local shops, I missed out on so much during the snes genesis era that I was definitely old enough to enjoy.

I never knew that, interesting. In SFV when you activate Akuma’s (don’t remember the name of the trigger) and become Shin Akuma, after landing the raging demon, Akuma’s kanji is different than the usual Ten. Is it the same as the one in CVS2?

@@legalam Yes, it's actually the same as in CVS2, 神人 "God-Man"

It truly is. It also felt like it sort of changed some of the match ups a bit too.

Very reminiscent of isms

It's a blast!

haha if that were to happen, has to be after strive beta.

@@rooflemonger WORTH THE WAIT.

well cvs2 isn't a tag fighter though? Its like King of Fighters. Team fighter is the better term

@@rooflemonger I just got bodied...... Thank you greatmaster for your wisdom 😂

Got them both. 👍. Virtual tennis 2 is the only other game worthy of playing even today on my Naomi.

@@prawnk1ng GOOD, now enjoy the blessing that is those 2 fighting games

thank you friend I try my best! 💪🐵

You talking about ULTIMATE Rugal right?? Regular Rugal is easier to deal with.

@@joshualowe959 I am talking about God Rugal.

@@rzqhipnox1667 that's what I thought.

when I was starting the channel and learning things like an end screen, to me once I thought of what the music should be, wasn't even a question, had to be true lovemaking.

Great reference to the announcers win quotes!

you mean where they milk us for every additional player?

Yeah, imagine characters like K’, Shermie, Alex, and Juri joining the fun, not to mention characters like Felicia, Cham-Cham, Ryoko Izumo, Rouge, Tessa, etc. I could see them going a bit more into the MvC side of things because there’s no MvC in sight nowadays. Morrigan was already pushing it, among others, but who’s to say they don’t go further. Basically everyone unironically wants Fio, they could fish out a Mega Man character to be her counterpart, and Power Battle/Fighters open the floodgates to the series.

I did a similar, smaller, retrospective on KoF 13 a few months back, should be at the end of the video? These kinda vids take a long time to make though heh so don't expect them too often. This is like 5-6 "normal" videos worth of effort. Although that said there will be more in the future, right time/right place just needs to hit me.

actually thats fair enough, never thought of it that way. But still even near 20 years on it bugs me that Capcom grooves got "snk stuff", but all in the name of making things equal I guess.