Loose Oil Filter Damages Engine 

Your welcome Claude!

Nathan Campbell your welcome Nathan.

that's why I do my own oil changes and other work on my truck !

Gabe Loya. Lazy?? Lazy??? Excuse me??

Right because most people can do that. Are you an idiot or just pretend to be on the internet?

@@hawksfan5 Most people can do it you literally just unscrew a hex screw to get the oil out, let it drip into a pan. Put the hex screw back in. Take out the oil filter (no tools needed), Put the new filter in and make it tight. Put new oil in. Literally anyone can do it

​@@josephkappelmann5061 You are dumb as fuck. You must have a pretty hardcore set of women in your family that crawl underneath their cars and trucks.

Your very welcome Kokolynn!!!!

Thank you!!!!

Your welcome

There was only one gasket, I was hired by the customer to provide an expert opinion as to what happened, so I am unable to do any type of repairs.

Great Job!!! Most people find out to late:(

Yep!!!

No reason to Torque! Hand tight on the filter and snug on the drain plug. Hate Grease Jockies who over tighten!

Yep, I agree James! Just like trying to find a good Doctor:( Most of us have to almost die to find one.

Randy Hodges Yep, I agree!

Good points. I drove home from an routine oil change a couple of years ago. 8 miles give or take. I popped the hood in my driveway just to look things over and noticed the plastic motor cover missing and also the oil cap! There wasn't any spray underneath the hood thank God. I check the dipstick and it was fortunately still right on the money. I called the shop immediately and he calmly told me to drive on back over and he'll put everything back on it like it was no big deal. I never went back to that place again. He wasn't rushed during the oil change, wasn't busy at all.

Unfortunately your hand tight wasn't enough. Definitely internal engine damage but it is still running. The oil needs to be inspected for metal debree. Depending how much you find may require a engine rebuild before you have castrophic engine failure. Otherwise the motor can still run with some damage. Also their can be metal debree in the oil pan. You can also cut open the oil filter to see if any metal debree is in the oil filter. When installing a new filter, fill filter with oil, wipe oil on gasket, hand tighten to motor and then turn oil filter up to additional full turn or 3 quarter of a turn. Yes you don't want over-tighten but then again you don't want it loosening up. Use best judgment. Most of these lube places do it hand tight. That why I do my own. Hope everything turned out for you.

Thank you for your tip on how to install the filter properly and your inspection suggestions. I also noticed the oil type I used is not the same one recommended in the vehicle manual. I am going to change the oil again with the correct oil type. While I change the oil I will check to see if there is any metal debris in the oil filter. Thank you.

@yougoog1 Your welcome! That should be good start to see what's really going on. And then make decisions on what direction you want go. If the noise gets worse definitely time to go through the motor. Make sure you find a trusted mechanic to work with. Goodluck!

Not sure, I would definitely replace the oil filter though. When it's off you can make sure not a double gasket.

Hello, personally I would go buy a good quality oil filter , Wix is the ones I use for my customers. Then just replace the oil filter with a new one. I put a little oil on the rubber seal and tighten by hand tight and then 1/2 to 3/4 turn with a filter wrench. Start your engine for a minute to make sure no leaks. Then shut it off and double check your oil level.

@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair ok thanks buddy

Omg! Yep your right about that, sad story. Got rid of all my mechanics years ago, one man shop is the only way for the rest of my career.

It was 5 years ago

Or a shop like yours

Thanks Ronnie!!!

john sadler How do us viewer's know if you as a mechanic didn't loosen the filter before the video?? And one other sceptical question. .if the vehicle had a loose oil filter well as loose as you claim it to be why didn't it blow off and or loose all the oil before going almost 3000 miles which the automotive bureau recommends any conventional oil change 3000 mile interval standard on conventional and your stating 5000 ?? Just some things I would like to be clarified. .as a fellow mechanic some of your statements are not validated like the filter being that loose and not blowing off due to the pressure of the motor or if it's that loose all the oil should have leaked out within a shorter mileage time frame. .....Show less Reply ·john sadler 1 second ago +Daniel Helmuth Hi Daniel: Great Question ! The reason I didn't loosen the filter before the video is due to the fact I have dedicated my life to helping the Consumer with there Automotive needs for 39 years now. I was in a National Automotive Monthly Magazine called Undercar Digest with the title John Sadler A Passion for Automobiles and People is the best way to describe what i do. I have done Investigative work for the Bureau of Automotive Repair before due to I know how to present the facts. I have many unsolicited reviews and letters in my shop and on the Internet, One consumer calls me a Diamond in the Engine, another one says one of San Diego's Top Mechanics. I have been an Expert Witness for Customers in court explaining the facts to Judges. I am on an Automotive Advisory Board for Cuyamaca College in El Cajon Ca. Started making these video's in August of 2012 when a tough problem would come in the shop to help out Consumers from all over the World. The consumers thank me from Brazil, Spain, Montana to name a few places. You can read some of there comments on my other video's.And finally when all the Insurance Adjuster's come around and try to give me $500.00 dollars and then i have to promise to send all my Customers to them. I tell them to leave my shop and call there employers. In other words Daniel " you can't buy me, I'm not for sell ".Ok, hope that answers your first question. Your second question now is why didn't the filter blow off and or loose all the oil before going almost 3,000 miles?The reason the oil filter didn't blow off is there a quite a few threads holding the filter to it's housing, so the fact that the rubber seal is touching the housing is helping to keep it in place. The fact that it's loose is what causes some oil to leak out every time you drive the vehicle. Further I asked the Customer how much they drove and found out his work is close to home. So if you take the mileage of 2,684 and divide it by 89 days the time between the oil change and the problem you come up with about 30 miles a day. Then when you take into account the physical oil staining on the oil filter you come up with it's perfectly reasonable to loose 4 quarts of oil in that time frame. Now for your 3rd question Daniel: your stating the automotive bureau recommends any conventional oil 3000 mile interval standard on conventional Show less Reply ·john sadler 1 second ago +john sadler and your stating 5000 ??. Here is a Great example for you, 2010 Toyota Tacoma 4.0 L 2wd. This engine takes 5-30 wt. oil with an SL rating and ILSAC multi grade oil. The Toyota Motor Corporation that made this vehicle states to change the oil every 5,000 miles. A 2000 Dodge Neon with a 2.0L engine states to change the oil every 7,500 miles. I get my Automotive Repair and Service Information from the Companies that made the vehicles. In closing: I sincerely hope I validated my statements for you Daniel.

please learn the difference between loose and lose

Hi Justin: Thanks !!!!

Yep! Thanks Diana, will pray for them.

Scott Brixey It happened to me....but I am glad you have such an vast expertise on these things.