Losing Fights in the PU, Might Be Your Settings (Control Setup)

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The guide is still relevant, This will help you understand Star Citizen's combat functions more profoundly. Focusing on Keybindings and Controls from Mouse and Keyboard to Dual Sticks and Pedals
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0:00 Intro
0:31 Gradual Upgrade
0:37 Mouse
0:48 Left Stick
1:13 Pedals
1:37 Dual Stick or Pedals
1:57 Dual Sticks
2:26 Pedals
2:50 Racing Pedals
3:30 Flight Pedals
3:47 Keybindings
4:24 Mouse and Keyboard
5:10 Pedal Bindings
5:34 CRUCIAL
6:04 Right Stick Bindings
6:43 Left Stick Bindings
7:58 My Bindings
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@PropKnucklesFPV Год назад

I immediately went to dual sticks, but quickly went to left stick, mouse, and pedals, and it's my favorite setup by far

@pancakeshobo Год назад

Great video Winters! Pedals will be on the Christmas list. A note to chat here, if you want to bind multiple keys to the same action, you can edit your config file under USER>Client>0>Controls>Mappings, and add an input option under the rebind (rebind is the current bind). It should look something like this.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

You madman you

@circuitguy9750 Год назад

This is a really weird setup... BUT for all you haters. I'm an IRL private pilot (with some aerobatic hours) and have flown both yoke and stick, raced RC quadcopters, and play Star Citizen. They all have different controls and I've never confused them. Map controls to what's optimal for the system. @Johnathan Winters' reasoning is sound, and muscle memory will kick in after a few hours.

@firestarter18x Год назад

I have zero flight time as anything other than a passenger IRL, but PLENTY experience doing other skilled labor (and probably even more time participating in space/flight sims/games)- and I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of what you've said here. Use the correct tool for the job, not for one's own "preference". Learn the job, practice the job, become GOOD at the job with the correct tools for it, as its own individual thing. A videogame "starfighter" is simply not a real world plane. Whomsoever reads this comment can unpack that sentence however they wish.

@ghostinme. 8 месяцев назад

Absolute brother . It’s the drill practice and hours you put in

@neth77 Год назад

Great info, thanks. I have a HOTAS with pedals so am going to use left stick + mouse + pedals.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

Saw your other post, seem you figured it out though =]

@ao_nex Год назад

Thanks for that hint with the right stick twist. It felt overloaded but it seems to be correct to bind it there. I´d changed it after your vid to left stick - and - oh boi that feels so much better. See u in the verse o7

@christianwegener9922 Год назад

Amazing Content! Now i am going to reorganize my bindings. A bit unsure where to map forward and back thrust on my hosas

@PeterTsiampas Год назад

Love the video especially the combat ones, as I am new to the game. I have an old X52 so I am unable to easily control forward and back, and I have been using the throttle control as forward thrust only plus the hat in front for up/down/left/right strafe. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to better utilise the throttle control?

@WorthTalking2 Год назад

absolutely one of the most concise and useful videos made on controls for SC !

@rhadiem Год назад

Also a lot of weird suggestions I would never make. Whatever works I suppose.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

@@rhadiem I've played with a looooot of pvpers over the years, everytime they make these changes, they immediately see improvements. I've seen the same for myself, and I came from flight sims and dcs.

@Avean Год назад

Top tier video as usual! Great stuff :)

@alexpetrov8871 6 месяцев назад

The fun thing - I came myself for the same conclusions just after a month of casual pvp. Left stick for strafes, pedals for back forward, multibutton mouse for aiming and misc keys (Roccat Tyon my many years favorite, pity they stopped manufacturing but there are still some on Amazon). What I didn't think is about rudders for roll and toe brakes for back forward - that is brilliant. Now I wonder if it is possible effectively use right stick's top mini stick for manual gimbals ))

@ScarredCitizen Год назад

Amazing video. Really good info here.

@davidfrancis2163 5 месяцев назад

This was helpful after watching your movement video I can somewhat apply your concepts there to hands on control options. Sounds like I need to ditch the Hotas for a dual stick setup and perhapsnpucj up pedals. The dedicated throttle makes strafingnin combat cumbersome.

@MrDubstepOCE Год назад

Just ordered pedals, I've currently got the mouse, left stick, and now to be pedals setup. I've never used pedals before, but you recommend for that setup throttle forward and back on the pedals as well as roll left and right. I'm curious to know which to bind to what? Roll to the toe breaks and forward and back to the slide actions? Or vise versa?

@jameshoiby Год назад

@Johnathan Winters Your choice of axes makes me twitch -- it seems wrong after so many years working as a pilot IRL and I don't feel like three axes per stick is overloading. But, your left stick/right mouse setup has me really excited to try! I also really like your key bindings so I screenshot and stole them as well. Thank you!

@kariminyt Год назад

IRL atmosphere flying is not same as space flying as u know. most ppl who used to atmosphere flying irl cant easily change what they used to do. I still agrees with u. his strafe bindings kinda deferent from the majority. it makes sense for pvp tho, u dont want to strain ur hands forward since we moving forward almost all the time.

@MojaveWolfe Год назад

Yep X axis is Roll and Z axis is Yaw. I have no problem aiming. Personal preference.

@walker_bait4772 Год назад

Thankyou for the guide!

@naril0s 7 месяцев назад

I went with a stick + mouse, not really planning anything more for now, and I can't really decide what settings to go for. There are so many different options here as to where to put the strafes or roll. And then there is the issue of minimizing the time and effort to recalibrate your muscle memory in case you go dual in the future. Can you recommend a setup given I have a VKB with the analog thumb stick? There is none in the video actually.

@Xcross93X Год назад

Thank you for your incredible videos!

@LisaSimpsonLiberal Год назад

Anyone else have yaw on right twist? Just feels right and the digital movement matches the physical.

@cebuch. Год назад

Do you also have full foot pedal attachment for those virpils? And which one do you prefer?

@sttosin Год назад

Nice one Winters!

@edubbdizzle8096 Год назад

I think I'm weird because my right stick is pitch and roll but then twist is yaw I can't do it any other way I've tried but that's the most smooth for me! For my left stick it is just forward backwards straight and left and right straight it unfortunately does not have a Twist or I would use that for up and down stray instead that is mapped to two of the buttons I have. I kind of hate my setup but it is what it is until I have enough money to afford my verbal setup and then I'm going full on Dual stick pedals and possibly even a throttle for non fighting applications.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

It's not normal for anyone off the bat, you gotta put in the time with it.

@steppahouse Год назад

Have you got a link to that image of your Virpil grip keybinds?

@annod2972 Год назад

What would you recommend for a forced south paw with a born handicap on the right ( no fingers just a half thumb and palm ) ??? Right now im rockin' a naga left hand with arrow keys and some numpad funtions with a mimic dual stick setup with roll and up and down on mouse keys, let me know 😁

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

I would keep the mouse as pitch and yaw. The rest, w.e. you can figure out. I think pedals would be the best benefit for ya. Something with toe brakes so you can roll, move forward and back on pedals.

@KurtacusRex 5 месяцев назад

New vewer question: Any tips for a gamepad player? I'm experimenting with the left stick being strafe (like you do WASD), with RB/LB being rolls, AB being boost and brake Mario Kart style, and its... more viable than I expected. Plenty of buttons left over after binding your list. I am specifically curious about your general thoughts and impressions on gamepad meta viability; there are tons of other videos for setup and keybindings in technical detail. I personally aim to be in the top 60-70%, just so statistically, I can salvage pirates more often than they salvage me. My personal ability aside, would you agree that someone who understands the principles in your videos and practices on a gamepad > someone who doesn't understand with a more meta setup?

@JohnathanWinters 5 месяцев назад

Those bindings sound good, only thing I would add is get some cheap pedals to help misread some of ur movmeent.

@eondivine 11 месяцев назад

I'm playing with my setup having both hosas and rudder pedals - you are saying to put the roll on toe brake, while you are having it on left hand twist - is that a matter of habbit or you feel roll is more controlled on having it on twist? I'm asking because roll on toe brake feels sluggish coparing to twist IMO.

@JohnathanWinters 11 месяцев назад

As long as you can make independent maneuvers without one affecting the other exe: if I twist my stick to go forward I should not be strafing up or down. Then you're fine.

@Charlie_Echo Год назад

Just out of curiosity, which way round do you have your left hand Y axis? Do you prefer left hand forward to strafe up, or strafe down?

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

I do strafes only on the left hand, forward and back are separate. I have a controls video that breaks down important factors when it comes to keybindings.

@Charlie_Echo Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters Yeah sorry I wasn't clear with my question. I mean for your up/down strafe on your left hand, which way round do you have it bound? When you push the stick forward, does that strafe you up, or down?

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

@@Charlie_Echo Use what ever feels comfortable to you, but I use forward is up.

@Charlie_Echo Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters Cool, thanks! By instinct I feel that'll be better for me too, but I'll try both.

@mdpedersen1986 Год назад

I have Flight pedals with toe breaks. is it worth trying to adapt to roll on the toe breaks instead of twist? I have full HOSAS with the pedals.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

That's subjective, give it a try.

@giammaf81 5 месяцев назад

I don’t understand the difference between forward thrust (strafe) and forward throttle.. I have an hotas and the only thing I can do is throttle forward on z axis (from 0 to 100) and push the backward button to go backwards at the same speed. I can’t find other controls for forward e backward thruster, what am I missing?

@JohnathanWinters 5 месяцев назад

you have the bind the one that says forward/back or something along those lines. You cannot bind the individual one since you only have 1 axis.

@LimDerek Год назад

I started a few months ago and on KBM. wanted to advance to the next step and wondering whether to have a left or right stick. I have a Logitech 3D Extreme Pro but it is right handed.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

If you're going for both you can use your 3d pro on your left even if its uncomtorable and get a good stick. But just follow the vid, it covers all that.

@standarsh2186 11 месяцев назад

Question. I have pedals with 3 axis of movement. Should I put roll and forward/back movement on them?

@JohnathanWinters 11 месяцев назад

Check, my pedals video.

@CaptTsubasa09 Год назад

Sorry. Didn’t quite understand the keyboard keybind for W and S. if we change it to Strafe up and down, what keys do we use for forward and back? 🤔 thanks!

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

buttons on side of mouse

@ronnieo9571 Год назад

Do you have another video of control adjustments ? I am talking about aiming assist, curves on stick fine tuning stuff?

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

I do, check my channel for Aim Assist.

@ronnieo9571 Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters Thank you

@Kamikatze108 6 месяцев назад

Is your Pitch inverted and are you planning to change your overall settings/controls with Master Mode?

@JohnathanWinters 5 месяцев назад

Yes and no change to my settings.

@andreagrazianodibenedetto1464 Год назад

Do you have a video on how to adjust the sensitivity curves on the right stick?

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

It's in my aim assist video, the tracing portion.

@redshoes9127 Год назад

Thanks! Finding your videos very useful. Just a question about yaw, roll & up/down thrust recommendations for dual sticks; why do you (and other people) recommend yaw on right stick? and roll on twist of left? I'm used to from traditional flight sims to have roll on right stick and yaw on pedals. Is yaw on right stick and roll on twist of left stick somehow viewed more precise on space sims?

@MagicMahn Год назад

Imo it's considered more precise because the hands are more dexterous than the feet. One thing to consider is that in space, ships aren't affected by aerodynamic forces. Yaw and pitch are free to move however they like. Being able to control both axis 1 to 1 with your hands yields the highest levels of accuracy. In flight games, yaw doesn't have the most authority due to the designs of aircraft as well as it doesn't require much precision. Majoirty of flight control precision is rolling and pitching. Granted, yaw is used for certain maneuvers and aiming, it tends to be a held value versus twitch-precision. This is coming from a pretty decent Camel pilot in IL2 whereas the rudder made or broke a Camel pilot.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

What Magics said.

@redshoes9127 Год назад

Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll give it a try. Won't be easy with thousands of hours of flight sim time, but I can see that it might make sense for space sims. Perhaps I'll keep all the thrusters on left stick i.e. keep up and down on left twist and just swap yaw from pedals to right x axis and put roll to pedals.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

@@redshoes9127 np man, 15 minutes a day and you'll be fine in a week or less.

@1337murk Год назад

Good stuff

@fernander7826 Год назад

The controls hurt my brain, put them on but with so much memory flying rotary in arma my head just melts

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

You'll get it, it's a must, trust. I came from flight sims, it just doesn't work in SC.

@rhadiem Год назад

Right Twist works just fine on my Gunfighter. Twist uses wrist muscles while the main axes use upper arm muscles. Different nerves and it is very comfortable even when combining actions. Using side buttons on a mouse though often spoil your aim if you are claw grip.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

It's not about comfort.

@rhadiem Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters That's your rebuttal? 🤔

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

@@rhadiem I miss read your comment, just find something comfortable that allows you to strafe without moving forward or back accidentally

@babykosh5415 Год назад

What are these pedals named? @1:27

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

Those are Virpil.

@eondivine 11 месяцев назад

Can you share your hosas profile as a file plz?

@0Metatron Год назад

Inverted Y axis master race 😁

@markmlongrie426 Год назад

Shift X axis on a separate profile for flying backwards like a pimp.

@Xphinity Год назад

Great video! No wonder why your dogfighting tutorials are so nasty lol You have got quite the setup!

@thegamingshatt4758 Год назад

Great video but you can never convince me not to have roll and pitch on the same stick

@rhadiem Год назад

Yaw is more important than roll for aiming though, but I assume you have top tier pedals and have decades of foot aiming under your belt. It is suboptimal but you do you.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

You're hurting yourself if you are serious about combat, your aim will always suck.

@Vecshan Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters it is totally a preference, i for one use roll on right stick rotation and do fine, aim is not just aim at high tier pvp is ship movement 70~ and aim 30~ % but it depends everything is just a preferences not a recommendations imo

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

@@Vecshan You can get away with roll on right hand twist. But pitch and Yaw is master race, there is no debate there. Control is objectively better that way. If I where to give it numbers I would say, twist on left increase ur aim by about 10% and pitch and yaw vs roll on x gives you better aim by about 80%

@Vecshan Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters i am saying that 70% of the aim is done with movements. not just aim. keybinds do not matter is just what you prefer and how wanna use what you have. in the higher ends of pvp everyone has aim, is about the position and movements to add perfection to it.

@prophetseven728 Год назад

They really have to upgrade this game. Form me to add all that gluter to my Desk. I use it way more then just for games or this game for that matter. But if they improve on it. Then I can see it happening.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

Honestly, you don't need any of it. Ako is a god tier PVP pilot, top 5 IMO and he's keyboard and mouse.

@prophetseven728 Год назад

@@JohnathanWinters Good to know! Thanks!

@imobius_1i98 Год назад

go wtih omni directional so immersive

@Bonphomet Год назад

Tbh I find the game easier to play full mouse n keyboard and just customize the keys the way you like no extra money at all and once customized to comfort it's very competitive and I don't feel disadvantaged at all. mostly due to the fact that some key bindings can overlap based on mode and situation such as on foot, Eva, in flight, missile mode, etc

@Mike-fg5bz 6 месяцев назад

If your planning on flying capital ships then pedals makes no sense, just need dual sticks and a control panel

@JohnathanWinters 5 месяцев назад

I disagree, pedals are not a need for either but nice to have regardless of ship. A Cessna and a Boeing 747 both benefit from pedals but could both be flown fine with a twist axis.

@jaybirdjargon 4 месяца назад

And then us peons limited for space on a gaming laptop and a mouse with a board as a desk.

@JB_Hobbies Год назад

Binding roll to your feet is really going to screw you up if you ever try to fly a real aircraft.

@JohnathanWinters Год назад

You'll get use to it.

@rafaelgrb19 10 месяцев назад

Just Marketing...

@AWI298 Год назад

Yes, more hacks, keep em comin o7

@LOoNyTOoN1336 Год назад

@Joshee365 Год назад

Your controls are weird and i don't like them

@jameshoiby Год назад

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elder berries. :)

@devilik3692 Год назад

stop buying gear for demo of the game, while those who need it for actual sims cant find it in stock because of cultists think it will make them better in non existent physics that keeps getting changed

@Vecshan Год назад

Maybe you should stop buying stuff for a game that not that many play :)) jk everyone does what they want man