This isn't much of a breakdown, mostly just my personal feelings toward something I used to enjoy. Character art by @art_pineapple5 on Insta #starwars #theacolyte #disney #smilingfriends
That's just not true tho. Filoni clearly LOVES star wars. Jon Favreau clearly does too. I think if Leslie does from what I've seen in her interviews, I'm just not sure she likes what other fans like.
@@TheDCbiz that's why I said MOST, not ALL of the people involved in the matter 🤷 yet the mediocrity of the screenwriting in the sequels and the way it constantly breaks canon on such stupid ways just shows a lack of knowledge and of respect to the original material. I can argue the same about The Acolyte or Kenobi.
They haven’t allowed themselves to understand what they did with TLJ. I left the theater with a friend and we both felt sick and depressed. Expectations subverted. The acolyte feels the same way, Kk hired an unqualified person to oversee this major franchise and they set about undermining the story from the opposite end of the timeline.
I totally understand your point, but i am personally not ready to let go. I love star wars so much, and it just pains me to see what is becoming of it. I really wish i could just move on, or just stop complanining, but when i talk to my homies about star wars of course we are going to talk about the newest thing that came out, and if there is nothing good to say about it, that means we are going to talk about how bad it is. Its really sad for me because i really wish they would make more things like Andor but it just doesnt seem to be happening.
Everyone needs to be held accountable. The community bullied the actor who played jar jar until he almost ended his life. That's not acceptable for a community to behave
I've been interested in Star Wars since watching the original trilogy on VHS. As I aged, I've watched the prequels, watched the clone wars shows (two of them), read some comics, and played the video games that caught my eye. By the time Disney announced it's so called sequel trilogy, I wondered how it will play out. Sadly, they're disappointing to even think about. That, and the latest media Disney dished out is so messy that only a child who doesn't know better would understand. Am I sad at how Star Wars is now? Yes. Am I gonna throw my interest in it away because of that? Hell no. Disney Star Wars is dead, but the Legends and EU Star Wars will live on in our hearts. No matter what, I'm going to keep the memories of the good Star Wars stuff right where my brain and heart is, because those memories are a part of my childhood that I got left.
I loved Star Wars, I didn’t hate any trilogy and I thought the prequels were the best. I played the kotor games and they were so good. After, when I watched the sequels I thought it couldn’t get any worse, but it did
I often hear the saying: There are no new stories. Everything was tried at least once. Judging by my reading experience, I agree. This is why modern writers, the good ones, do not try to create an original story. They, more often, switch genres. Placing, for example, a typical fantasy story into a sci-fi environment. Or go deeper into a matter, exploring the usual tropes from a new Point of View. However, it takes skill and knowledge of existing material. It is not enough to wish to subvert expectations; you need to know what those expectations are and be capable of coming up with an alternative. This is where Andor succeeds. They took the worldbuilding of Star Wars and explored the implications. They dug deeper into the flimsy premise and created a human story everyone could enjoy. This is where Return of the Jedi fails. The movie looks like someone has thrown a bunch of plot points on the whiteboard, stuff they wanted to happen, and never bothered with connecting those and analysing if they make sense, particularly in the SW universe and for human viewership in general. They always avoided asking if the characters act according to their... well, character. Or occupation. This is why we got Luke, who is not Luke, and a Purple-haired Vice Admiral, who is not an admiral at all. This is also why most Star Wars shows and movies for Disney fail. I can agree or disagree with the direction in which they take the Star Wars universe. This is more or less irrelevant. But I expect them to take their freaking job seriously. I want to see an effort put into the creation that exceeds an average amateur writer on Royal Roads. How could it be that I know fanfics with better stories, written with infinitely better understanding? They have budgets for hiring a team of development editors and fact-checkers, which would stay under the catering allowance for their productions. I expect professionalism from people earning per project more than I earn in a lifetime cranking out computer code.
@@DentEdits I disagree. There are only like 5-10 stories you can tell but the remixing and reimagining of those stories appear endless. But imo star wars is out of stories. It ran out of gas for nearly 50 years
@@TheDCbiz "There are only like 5-10 stories you can tell" yeah buddy, I will go even further and say that there are basically 2 stories you can tell, A story involving a human and a story not involving a human. There, reduced it further for you. you are welcome.
@@TheDCbiz stories with humans and non humans, contains humans. So, it is covered under the "A story involving a human". There are 2 stories you can tell and I gave them to you :) It is over, no more stories to read, no more stories to write. It is all very much over.
The standards have fallen so low with Disney it’s satire now. Apathy has truly set in. I don’t think this generation we will ever see Star Wars again at its peak in terms of good writing, directing etc until KK and her cronies are out of LF. Until then the utter annihilation of Star Wars will continue.
I have been a Star Wars fan for decades, or maybe I should now say a George Lucas era Star Wars fans for decades. I tried very hard to like the Disney version, but I just kept getting more and more disappointed until I could not reconcile it all anymore. The introduction of a female clone in The Bad Batch show and turning Clone Force 99 into daddy daycare, finally killed my interest in Disney Star Wars. I'm now simply keeping to the magic of Episode I-VI and The Clone Wars.
after one too many mediocre star wars productions I phased out of the franchise completely for about a decade. Saw Andor of late, it was a good piece of story telling for once. Still don't have much faith in the producers.
Its the exact same for me. Andor, mandelorian S1 and clone wars was amazing, but the rest was either just uninteresting or borderline insulting. I stopped watching after Kenobi and have regretted nothing, there are other shows i can watch. Its pure apathy now. I dont even care if they start butchering the star wars canon anymore. The only sad thing is to see how much potential literally EVERYTHING had, but still most of it all failed
@@ChopSueyyy rogue one was awesome too, in my opinion i loved the characters in that movie, i mean a blind old man thats obsessed with the force and a person whos there to save him from his mess with a machine gun IS GENIUS XD
@@ChopSueyyy oh mb did i say rogue one? Oh my apologies, i meant rise of skywalker. That movie was PEAK! The way palpatine returned was insane! I ran out of the theater to shake vince Gilligan's hand as soon as the movie was over!
They should stop making most franchises. Milked to oblivion with no end in sight. Desecrating pre-established lore needlessly, blaming fans for their shit show, and calling them "ists" and "phobes." Not a very smart move but hey what the hell....who cares now....
Bro WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT, BRO, STAR WARS IS PEAK RIGHT NOW, I MEAN.. R U KIDDING ME? HOW COULD U POSSIBLY FORGET THE ICONIC SENTENCE "SOMEHOW PALPATINE RETURNED" I MEAN, IT WAS PEAK CINEMA! I COULDNT WAIT UNTIL THE MOVIE WAS OVER TO GO SHAKE VINCE GILLIGAN'S HAND! AND MY GOODNESS, THE LAST JEDI WAS AWESOME TOO!, JAMES GUNN DID A WONDERFUL JOB PORTRAYING REY AS A TEST SUBJECT WHO WAS IN HIGH INTELLIGENCE AND FELT FOR OTHERS! I CRIED AT THE END!!!
I have been a Star Wars fan for about 10 years since the force awakens came out And after that I started getting really into it like the lore different Planets, creatures, animals, technology, languages, Weapons ships, vehicles, quotes etc. And For the past months or years, there was a time where I just wanted to Give up On a franchise that I love since the force awakens just because of how the fan base is it was just too much for me to handle Because not only here I see it On youtube put facebook instagram etc. But then I tried my best not to let go of a franchise because if I did let go of a franchise that I loved and I wouldn't watch all these newer shows Especially the movies as well. But I could totally understand where you're coming from And why star wars has been pretty disappointing for you and you guy's as well and i fully respect on that. But for me though I'll still continue to watch star wars because again I don't want to let go this franchise I want to keep continuing watching it just without the toxic Getting in my way.
I have been an obsessed fan for 25 years and Ive never felt so disfranchised with Star Wars. Its not just some mediocre to bad content, its the rabid fanbase. There is alot of good things about Star Wars still to enjoy and discuss, but the community doesn't do that anymore. Most channels that aren't lore specific channels, are just grifters now. With a handful of exceptions the lore channels act like nothing after 2008 counts. I don't want to leave, but I guess I will just have to enjoy it alone.
The problem with your post is that many people also had a problem with the prequels when it came out just like you have a problem with Disney’s Star Wars. There are plenty of bad lines in the prequels but people still enjoyed them. And the complainers of the prequels were eventually relegated to the sidelines, as a future generation grew up with them. Same will happen again
I don’t know. The OT and PT generations grew up more or less the same way: movie theaters, video games, TV, books, comics, and going outside with your friends, VHS. No social media. Now, all interactions are made through a PC: Steam, Twitch streams; you name them. Also, streamers and youtubers are taking the place that belonged to Hollywood stars in the past decades. They know the names of their favourite content creators, but i doubt they know who Harrison Ford is (the younger people i mean) Everything changed. They don’t held cinema in the same regard as past generations. They tend to forget quickly content they saw recently once it is finished. We, Millenials and Genxers, are the last generations that used to held things in high regard for decades.
I thought the same thing when I was making this video, wondered if the future generations would appreciate the sequels. I do think the prequels aren’t as good as the OG and have a lot of flaws tho
Star Wars fell off in the same way Guitar Hero and Rock Band did. Way too much stuff too quickly that wasn't good enough or interesting enough to be worth your time and money.
At least there are the pre-Disney books to consume, I was pretty meh when Force Awakens came out, but The Last Jedi was just insulting and Rian Johnson is a prick, made me sick watching an interview after the Last Jedi had come out where he said, with Mark Hamill in the room, “Well no one liked Empire when it came out either” The man is full of shit. Anyway just as Disney tossed all the great canon they had to work with, I tossed this stuff and went back to the original canon. I know George never put his blessing on all the books or anything, but they at least have so much more respect for the source material. I’m holding out hope that fans will eventually make fully fleshed out versions of the Thrawn Trilogy, individuals on RU-vid have already taken a good crack at it.
Rogue One could have gone from a good film to an excellent film with better character progression from a few extra scenes. It also gave us the masterpiece that is Andor. Solo was fun but not great.
@DentEdits I guess I just didn't buy into it? Visually it was good but, especially Vader's hallway scene. I'd often try and watch it before bed but it was just never compelling enough to make it all the way through in one sitting 😅
The moment kylo ren got introduced it was over for me, the originals is where its at the rest is a political shit fest of tantrum child like men and injected female power pushing
Do you think we are your therapist? I don't want to know another man's 'feelings'. Analysis, insights, make connections, deepen our appreciation for a work of art. Most Star Wars whiners have nothing useful to say, and you too the cake. Get useful, or get lost!
