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Lowering And Chopping The Bed On The Turbocharged Ford 300 Flatbed - Music City Trucks S2, E11 

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We bring our now turbocharged 1964 Ford F350 flatbed shop truck back for upgrades. We’ll bob the bed by cutting the frame, build and install a new exhaust, and then drive it like we stole it!
00:00 - Intro
02:45 - Suspension Swap
09:40 - Bed Bob
15:20 - Welding Tips
17:47 - Road Test
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@PowerNationTV
@PowerNationTV Год назад
Watch the dyno pulls here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xsNMrXDB5i4.html
@JohnnyAFG81
@JohnnyAFG81 Год назад
Love these old Ford builds!
@shinymud7
@shinymud7 Год назад
I love the Bob Vila comment neither of the two new so funny. Great show great content
@tonyheitsman4728
@tonyheitsman4728 Год назад
Love the direction you guys are headed with the flat deck. I was one throwing shade on the exhaust stack. My apologies for that. Can't wait to see future improvements to this project. A different swap with taller gears? Disks? All would be great to see.
@PaulThomas-qo9vy
@PaulThomas-qo9vy Год назад
Yes, thanks for removing that dufus looking pipe. I would have been ok with a stack just behind the cab, left or right side. The under-chassis with driver side exit is best & sounds good too! Suggestions: (A)refit the I/C in Front of the radiator, (B) change Turbine hot-side to smaller A/R & Electronic Boost Controller (EBC) to wsste gate for quicker transient (spool up) response. (maybe install EBC 1st & test B4 turbine housing swap. That might be enough so you don't have to wait. Right on ya'll !
@markschultz1606
@markschultz1606 Год назад
Stock with 77hp and still got the job done for 50 yrs.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
DAD HAD A CHEVY S10 FLATBED DUALIE WE USED FOR FARMER'S MARKETS. FLAT BEDS ARE TOTALLY AWESOME. YOU CAN HAUL SO MUCH IN THEM. AND THEY LOOK COOL WITH THE WOOD FLOORS. I WOULD LOVE TO OWN A CLASSIC FLATBED AGAIN. THE PERFECT PARTS CHASER TRUCK. FOR EVERYDAY LIFE. THE PERFECT WORK TRUCK NO LESS.
@justinstillwagon6982
@justinstillwagon6982 Год назад
These videos have been the push to start working on my '63 F350, it has a 223 inline 6 and a 4 speed manual. The best part, it only has 17,367 miles on it.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
WOW !!!! THAT IS A POWERFUL PLASMA CUTTER. THANKS FOR SHARING. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I LOVE THE BRIGHT GREEN NEON PAINT!!!
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
WOW !!!! I LOVE THIS TRUCK!!!! EVERYTHING IS SO SIMPLE AND BASIC.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOVE FLATBEDS. I LOVE OLD WORK TRUCKS.
@kingshawn1857
@kingshawn1857 Год назад
I really appreciate the inline 300 content no one else is really doing this kind of content
@richardbbaugh81
@richardbbaugh81 Год назад
Nobody knew Bob villa or norm Abrams? Now I feel old
@JoedolfShitler
@JoedolfShitler Год назад
they're millennials, what do you expect?
@davidj1436
@davidj1436 Год назад
I am old. I don’t care, they are legendary
@robertkirkpatrick75
@robertkirkpatrick75 Год назад
Me too
@schwanzmunster2503
@schwanzmunster2503 Год назад
Yup me too. Guess that explains the balding and ear hair lol. Damn kids anyway
@rocsti5402
@rocsti5402 Год назад
@@JoedolfShitler millennials grew up on home improvement, we know Bob villa, and Tim the tool man Taylor, thank you very much.
@thomas1699
@thomas1699 Год назад
You guys are nuts!! You have that souped up Six, clean and pretty enough to eat off of and you put it into a rust-bucket old truck. Oh the truck is fine! Just make it as clean and pretty as the engine!
@droppedf100
@droppedf100 Год назад
I was unsure at first but now I really like how it’s turning out. Can’t wait to see the next list of mods to the truck.
@OnHolliday
@OnHolliday Год назад
I've been watching all of yall's builds for a long time and I've gotta say, this old truck paired with the episodes building that 300 is probably my favorite so far. I'd love to see that truck get freshened up underneath both visually and functionally, get some taller gears to make it more streetable and somewhat restored to its former glory. Maybe keep with the white paint scheme and give it blue accents to match the 300 and some fresh chrome to bring her back around. That truck has so much potential and it could all be done within a very reasonable budget 🤙🤙🤙
@thecman26
@thecman26 Год назад
You know what they say! A bolt can't be stuck if it's liquid! Hence the flame wrench is good to use on rusted out hardware! I'm more than confident that Gabby has done a lotta work with wood. Don't let her fool ya!
@DomEngines
@DomEngines Год назад
The truck is quite good looking. I was hoping for a proper exhaust. Suspension wise... I think they kinda made it unusable in my books. Other than that I like the build :)
@my11badkids78
@my11badkids78 Год назад
Personally I take a grinder with a wire wheel to bolts that have alot of rust and corrosion on them. Before I even try to remove. I don't know how many I've gotten free and they end up galling when you get to the exposed threads. Precleaning them helps to eliminate that problem. I work in a mineral/vitamin/ feed mill and all the mineral cause extreme wear. I've taken off bolts that were installed a year previous but look similar to bolts that have been on a vehicle for 50 years. Penetrating oil and heat is great for breaking it free but you'll want to remove any potential issues after that.
@noduh736
@noduh736 Год назад
My two favorite hosts on pn
@tkskagen
@tkskagen Год назад
Flatbed F250/300 with a Turbo 300 is "livin' the dream" for a Work Truck for the Farm or small property "for fun"!
@1320Jason
@1320Jason Год назад
Marc with the “This old house” jokes. Haha
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
I LOVE IT!!! TOTALLY AWSOME BUILD!!! GREAT VIDEO AND THANKS FOR SHARING.
@royscarbrough3589
@royscarbrough3589 Год назад
For safety sake I would say it needs some bushings and such. Maybe adjust the steering box so it’s a little tighter. Awesome build
@matthewmattson6881
@matthewmattson6881 Год назад
I wish they would do some episodes like that
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Год назад
if some corporate overlord err I mean sponsor throws PN a shitload of money/parts and demands episode be one long Infomerical/product placement, this POS will get it
@jesseballinger8604
@jesseballinger8604 Год назад
That's no joke broken overload leaf that takes a hell of a lot of weight
@yashveersingh1795
@yashveersingh1795 Год назад
Absolutely amazing #powernation ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@jamesmooney5348
@jamesmooney5348 Год назад
Cool! Very cool!
@gapratt4955
@gapratt4955 Год назад
Awesome build! That truck and I are same year! LOL So many possibilities, looking forward to what you guys do next.
@wickedfriggengood6992
@wickedfriggengood6992 Год назад
Gotta say I like these guys working together VERY similar but well together ideas
@ericlee8231
@ericlee8231 Год назад
Love this build. Gear change better suspension setup for sure. Probably a transmission and clutch upgrade. A few personal/custom features and touches would be cool.
@dutnu2339
@dutnu2339 Год назад
Can't wait to see more hoping to see upgraded suspension that makes it handle the best it can for what it is lol I love it also agree with the gear upgrade that would make a huge difference in spooling that turbo up and for fun would be nice to see what that baby can do in the 1/4 mile
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 Год назад
Fantastic
@larryw5429
@larryw5429 Год назад
There's a saying in the north rust belt. Can't be tight if its liquid!!
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Год назад
Amen to that. I'm doing a new exhaust system today and I foree one clamp being cut off.
@JustinTime-rg7ks
@JustinTime-rg7ks Месяц назад
You need to get custom rims for the back,do away with the duels,use wider rims and tires, awesome build thumbs up
@joesilvasr9733
@joesilvasr9733 Год назад
Hold up one minute. You guys have to fix that intercooler. Seriously I know that this is just a TV show but you just have to fix the intercooler
@BlindBatG34
@BlindBatG34 Год назад
I agree. They could do something cool with the opening in the front of the hood to direct air over the intercooler,Subaru style, but as it stands that intercooler isn’t doing much good. Front mount probably would be less work and less likely to break.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
@@BlindBatG34 It needs to get away from the radiator, he rises. It should go down behind the front bumper.
@frijoli9579
@frijoli9579 Год назад
Watching the exhaust pipe flop around like a farm truck...
@1320Jason
@1320Jason Год назад
You guys rock!!!!
@PowerNationTV
@PowerNationTV Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@imranabbasi7871
@imranabbasi7871 Год назад
Good luck 👍
@e.s.bryant765
@e.s.bryant765 Год назад
If you can't walk that cup and get away from freehanding, then your just practicing for that day.
@gregbrightwell4682
@gregbrightwell4682 Год назад
I'm guessing you are a pro welder. What do you do?
@e.s.bryant765
@e.s.bryant765 Год назад
@@gregbrightwell4682 I have been a certified pipe and tube welder for 31 years.
@gregbrightwell4682
@gregbrightwell4682 Год назад
@@e.s.bryant765 I trained as a pipeliner, then took up machine work. Pays better and I get sunburned too easily
@chriswilson433
@chriswilson433 Год назад
Was it me, or was she a terrible welding instructor on camera? I hope she is better in-person. I know it has been covered many times before, but she could have gone of the basics of welding, talked about the different types, then explained what she teaches her students. Patting someone on the back for “whatever makes you feel good” is not good instruction.
@pauldohse8550
@pauldohse8550 Год назад
Plasma cutting in frayed jeans. Smart.
@luciocaceres73
@luciocaceres73 Год назад
Que bueno Gerardo Rozin que te hayas dedicado a los autos, me gustó mucho el proyecto y me gustó mas aún el motor que le pusieron, ese 6 en linea le calza y suena hermoso. Saludooss :)
@bikinglikebecker
@bikinglikebecker Год назад
The rails that gabby cut should be beveled or angled from top to bottom inward a bit.. they look vicious to knock your knee on.. might be a good spot for a step rail too... for a bumper.. Great job though everyone, looks awesome lowered a bit.. probably better mileage too.. I think if it was mine & I had the resources I would only paint inside the engine bay & interior, leave shell as is, with nice new wheels & brakes.. super fat tire on back instead of doolys?.. some blasting the rust off the bottom maybe, with Vinegar & then paint bottom.. & rails..
@cherylweber1246
@cherylweber1246 Год назад
Try a couple of air bags in the back to get your weight hauling ability back. Add a heavy duty hitch and a gooseneck kit and you have a hauling rig.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
They don't care about it being able to do any work.
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Год назад
give it time. some coprorate overlord/sponsor will throw RTM/PN a bag full of money and /or parts and BAM it'll be one long product placement ad
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
@@harveylong5878 I totally expect that to be coming. But not many companies make a bunch of parts for the 300 or old dually one tons. But I expect a later 5spd swap, some mucho expensive custom rear axle assembly and Brake system.
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 Год назад
You won’t do much work with that thing or you’ll burn that boosted motor right up
@richielong8822
@richielong8822 Год назад
Bob Vila and Norm Abrams lol🤣
@housepumpinpc3983
@housepumpinpc3983 Год назад
Want to cut straight on wood? Use a circular saw and a straight line. And those young folks didn't know who Bob Villa was. He was my parents age and I'm not that young myself.
@rustyshackleford349
@rustyshackleford349 Год назад
Should've left the bed and suspension alone and kept it as a badass hauler... It may not be fast but you could chain it to the sun and make the earth spin the opposite direction with that torque and gearing.
@blackbuttecruizr
@blackbuttecruizr Год назад
Hope you do some front end work on it, could be a lot better to drive.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
SUGGESTION: DROP A 460 FORD IN IT WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION. AND UPGRADE TO FOU WHEEL DISC BRAKES.
@donaldburkhard7932
@donaldburkhard7932 Год назад
Steel I+beam back bumper,do same foot front with extra front radiator guard.
@davidgenthnerjr4995
@davidgenthnerjr4995 Год назад
I think that 4th leaf should of been left in. Time to ditch the tall rear end gears for maybe 4.10's to keep it a capable work truck.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
If they were worried about that they wouldn't be cutting off the frame rails.
@SteveXNYC
@SteveXNYC Год назад
Do a D22 V6 with twin turbo intercooler 6speed 4x4 with 500WHP and 480 torque.
@montanaairframer
@montanaairframer Год назад
Put a Gear Vendors Overdrive in it!!!
@josephmayotte8879
@josephmayotte8879 Год назад
Hey hey, stick shift!
@jasonbasonbobason
@jasonbasonbobason Год назад
The way he wields that torch around is scary
@WalksInThunder
@WalksInThunder Год назад
Put a stack behind the cab.
@davidfellerer6384
@davidfellerer6384 Год назад
Love the turboed 300. That engine is awesome. I’d get some seat belts in there. I’m thinking a steel flat bed. Get Some disc brakes. How’s the sound system?
@thundermite1241
@thundermite1241 Год назад
Are there plans for hvac kit id love to see it done to see if i could do it with my papas old truck with a i6 and a similar year truck
@rodneyrev
@rodneyrev Год назад
With that much power I would have added disk brakes. Otherwise a great project.
@mikeyacullo444
@mikeyacullo444 Год назад
I love older trucks lpl
@MadaraUchiha55910
@MadaraUchiha55910 10 месяцев назад
By the way this is an F300 not an F350, the FX50 designation began being used in 1977, 15 years after this truck was released
@davidrichey4054
@davidrichey4054 8 месяцев назад
Actually that just applied to the 1/2 ton models. The F150 was introduced to split the payload of an F100 and F250. That change was made in 1975 through 83 until they discontinued the F100 all together. F250 and F350 are correct terminology
@suthanrrr3102
@suthanrrr3102 Год назад
Please sell a kit, its so hard to find stuff for these like these. I have an 88 and would love to buy one
@hm12460
@hm12460 Год назад
A bit surprised and disappointed you did not install new leaf springs.
@michaelvogel2522
@michaelvogel2522 Год назад
I like "Gassers",crank it up
@papovele9931
@papovele9931 Год назад
Heló guys thats nice, i have a truck like yours. 64
@jasonvice3606
@jasonvice3606 Год назад
Swap the suspension off of a crown Vic on to it so you’ve got disk brakes all the way around it. Only down side would be losing the dual rear wheels but then again. With the Vic suspension that turbo 300 and a 6 speed instead of the 4 speed it would make for a heck of a shop truck in my opinion
@glrider100
@glrider100 Год назад
Agree on this.. Make it a totally different ride.
@carlosgood-day2983
@carlosgood-day2983 Год назад
it aint all about speed you know, that would ruin it in my opinion
@glrider100
@glrider100 Год назад
​@@carlosgood-day2983 I think they're shooting for a well mannered around-town driver that's comfortable at highway speeds. I don't believe they are looking for anything more than that. For what it's worth, I don't like the idea of them bobbing the flat bed. Those trucks (I grew up driving one) are short enough as it is.
@rockatanskyrodshop8533
@rockatanskyrodshop8533 Год назад
Then it wouldn't be a truck it would be a car with a pickup cab
@chrisdaigle5410
@chrisdaigle5410 Год назад
What happened to the 300 that came out of the flat bed? The engine that was put in there was the pump engine that Engine Power had.
@Anial8tor1
@Anial8tor1 Год назад
what did you do to the steering after you flipped the front axle did you not get bump steer?
@The-Host
@The-Host Год назад
18:06. I didn't need a boost gauge, I could see the boost level in their faces.
@ebonwestbrook5580
@ebonwestbrook5580 Год назад
Next fix the steering slop and better gears
@teddysmith457
@teddysmith457 Год назад
First of all I love the Ford your building. I don’t understand why you went through the whole rigmarole of unbolting the U-boats on that Axle when you could’ve just got the gas ax out because you weren’t going to reuse those U- bolts anyway??????
@LSandL31
@LSandL31 Год назад
It’s the violent release of the spring pack and frankly a bad practice.
@dumbaccount6855
@dumbaccount6855 Год назад
With everything being super super scripted they were probably told to do so to add affect
@blueschild61
@blueschild61 Год назад
Leave the gears how they are. Put a gooseneck hitch on it and DO. SOME. WORK. All I want to know is how it hauls 10 round bales.
@Sparkystacoma
@Sparkystacoma Год назад
Lol... Bob. Norm. No? Eh before your time!
@vickypratamaputravivo4940
@vickypratamaputravivo4940 Год назад
5:37 A Mild
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Год назад
That 300 is blowing a lot of white smoke. It looks like they're a couple hard runs away from showing the rods to the outside world.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
It'll take a lot more then the boost they are running to break a 300 rod. It'll pop a head gasket long before it hurts the crank or rods. I've got 7 240/300's right now and have owned many more. The weak link on the engines are stock pistons on the early engines ( break skirts ) and the head gaskets. And if you do pop a head gasket and hydraulic the engine you'll bend a rod. These engines came stock with forged rods. As long as it has ARP rod bolts it's good to go.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Год назад
@@Fordman7575 so all that smoke is just a prop? You fan boys make me laugh. They didn't use stock pistons on the build The invincible holy icon is broken after a few hard pulls. Meanwhile I can get a junkyard takeout and make the same amount of power reliably for less.
@32degreesretarded62
@32degreesretarded62 Год назад
Awesome build, fellas. Only thing Id ask, and it aint much... please cut Carcass... they are terrible.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
USE NEW HARDWARE WHENEVER POSSIBLE. USE NEW ANYTHING WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
@seetheforest
@seetheforest 11 месяцев назад
How's that thing at hauling rock?
@tonyslothower7054
@tonyslothower7054 Год назад
What wheels are on it? Are they the split ring wheel?
@ScottPlude
@ScottPlude Год назад
Bob Vila? Really? They don't know the name??? I'm so sad!
@EnemyOfReality584
@EnemyOfReality584 Год назад
I'm 38 and know who that is! I'm sad too!
@chriswilson433
@chriswilson433 Год назад
Same!
@andrewmasonwerdna
@andrewmasonwerdna Год назад
13:40 I feel old I know who they are... I'm only 35 tho!
@edgarcorrea5582
@edgarcorrea5582 Год назад
If they did swap the trans. What trans would they swap in it
@vicstevens2149
@vicstevens2149 Год назад
When are you guys going to have some new stuff this has been running for six months?
@douglasanderson1276
@douglasanderson1276 Год назад
need a bigger airline for the 3/4
@jcr1323
@jcr1323 Год назад
👍👍
@huntereury1585
@huntereury1585 Год назад
Still has less rust then my truck
@cleetismcdougall5425
@cleetismcdougall5425 Год назад
It needs the exhaust stack in the back of the bed behind the cab. Bobbing the bed…not really a fan of that.
@mlp-hot-rod5824
@mlp-hot-rod5824 Год назад
New steering, suspension and a TKX. However, I still really don't see how that bed can help as a shop truck.
@johnbehneman1546
@johnbehneman1546 Год назад
CAN YOU STILL BUY FLAT BEDS/ STAKE BEDS TODAY? I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE.
@mattrik2493
@mattrik2493 Год назад
Why didn't you purged that stainless pipe Muffler before you weld it welding instructor or at least spread some flux on the inside of the weld so where it won't sugar up the inside and burn it up of that stainless Muffler
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
I wonder what the payload and towing capacity is now with so many leaves removed. Not that it’s going to be used for heavy duty towing, but it would be nice if it could still haul/tow some weight considering it’s a dually with tons of low end torque.
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 Год назад
Not much. It’s useless now
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920
@@servicetrucker5564 while I understand what you’re saying, and clearly I agree to a certain extent with my original comment…. We should encourage the reuse of any older vehicles. The alternative is them sitting there and rotting. So many vehicles that bring people joy are impractical. If everyone liked the same thing, life would be boring.
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 Год назад
@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 I mean you’re not wrong but it doesn’t make it right
@sothernborn1
@sothernborn1 Год назад
Ra k & pinion steering
@coreyrowe2052
@coreyrowe2052 Год назад
Did you guys not post the dyno video on RU-vid??? I don't see it???
@PowerNationTV
@PowerNationTV Год назад
It's on our channel! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xsNMrXDB5i4.html
@zerofuckkksgiven8027
@zerofuckkksgiven8027 Год назад
How do you not know Bob Vila
@lx1402
@lx1402 Год назад
Crown Vic front end
@loudelvis610
@loudelvis610 Год назад
Nice to see you driving a truck that came with no seat belts .....and even nicer the suits didn't make you install seat belts in the truck before driving it on camera
@quintinivey9359
@quintinivey9359 Год назад
No seat belts could cause some "issues".
@tkskagen
@tkskagen Год назад
A "Modified Mustang II Front Clip" would have the front suspension ALOT easier...
@davidgenthnerjr4995
@davidgenthnerjr4995 Год назад
If they are doing a modified work truck then a Mustang II front end swap is the wrong direction. I would ditch the mono beam front end, and go a twin I-beam setup out of a 77 1/2 to 79 2wd F250-350. This would also allow for the use of easy to find Coil spring parts.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
It's a one ton dually not a half ton.
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Год назад
@@davidgenthnerjr4995 that would be far too technical for RTM Standards. if it's not bolt on, corporate sponsored and doesnt require their main target audience to understand WTF is going on it isnt going happen
@tkskagen
@tkskagen Год назад
@@Fordman7575 My bad...
@tkskagen
@tkskagen Год назад
@@davidgenthnerjr4995 My bad... Would a Crown Victoria work for the Independent Suspension? Late 1990's... Or Impala late 1990's?
@RichardMLowe
@RichardMLowe Год назад
No it not Stubby Bob people They just doing their own twist on it
@peetky8645
@peetky8645 Год назад
truck looked better without the drop and bob
@jeffebinger1218
@jeffebinger1218 Год назад
crown vic front suspension, v8 explorer rear diff would drasticly transform the old girl.
@porschetech72901
@porschetech72901 Год назад
right iyd make it into somethin its not which negates the whole idea nehind this build
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
If that's the case they should have started with a F100 not a one ton dually.
@jeffreynelson3294
@jeffreynelson3294 Год назад
No hood? Lowered? It’s a one ton dually flatbed work truck not a SoCal boulevard cruiser. Sometimes you guys think you’re making something cool and all you are really doing is ruining something that was already cool. My opinion only but admit it turned out cooler than I thought it would.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
They did put the hood back on.
@jeffreynelson3294
@jeffreynelson3294 Год назад
@@Fordman7575 yeah I saw that after I sent my message. Apparently a lot of people didn’t like the idea of the truck without a hood based on their comment about the “hater hood”.
@Fordman7575
@Fordman7575 Год назад
@@jeffreynelson3294 I was one of those "haters"! 😁
@kmblaker5
@kmblaker5 Год назад
Skilsaw would have done a better job than the sawzall
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