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M2 Max - Reacting to new MacBook Pro Reviews! 

Rene Ritchie
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I can’t review products anymore, but holy wow my friends still can, and maybe, just maybe, I have some new M2 Pro and M2 Max MacBook Pro hot takes of my own to share!
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Комментарии : 102   
@DaveRoberts308
@DaveRoberts308 Год назад
I miss your videos. If you can’t review anymore, I hope you can continue to do technology analysis like you did for the M1 and M2 processor videos. Those were great and something that none of the other product reviewers were tackling.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Absolutely, what would you like to see?
@DaveRoberts308
@DaveRoberts308 Год назад
@@ReneRitchie I think the tech is really interesting. So, more about how it works. When M1 came out, it was so fast, and most reviews just said that. Tell me more about WHY it’s so fast (which you did). Dive into the differences between types of cores, a bit about the memory architecture, etc. Doesn’t have to be Anandtech deep, but deeper than the simplistic “hey, we did an export with Final Cut and wow, it finished a minute ahead of the x86 machine!” (again, which you did NOT do). I think diving into the “Can Apple sustain this performance lead?” question is really important and interesting. Also, the interviews with the Apple team were interesting to cut through the launch day specs and ask the more difficult follow-up questions.
@matthewturco156
@matthewturco156 Год назад
@@ReneRitchie Just keep calling bulls**t on the sensationalistic "hot-takes" on the Pro/Cons of the latest device and provide concise perspective on what really matters when evaluating a piece of hardware (or any heavily debated technology). You are the best of the best at that. Keep it up!
@revanvonheaven8270
@revanvonheaven8270 Год назад
@@ReneRitchie I want to see how the M1-M2 Pro & M2 max preforms on Ubuntu 22,04,Fedora 38, Arch Manjaro and Parrot Security Arra. Would love to see its preformance via stacer how much ram is used on both flatpaks and Snap packages. Would also love to see how it would run with better thermal pasting, thermal paste replacement and thermal pads on ram chips and SSd chipset like Thermal Grizzly how stable would it be on dual boot as well. That could actually boost your preformance significantly a lot of people are lazy to tweak tune modify and ofc speed up and clean the whole system they just want it run of the box it does not work that way in my experience with pretty much any piece of hardware or equipment in general. You should purge any games, any weather apps you ain't using.
@shiriajin
@shiriajin Год назад
Why can’t you review products anymore? What’s up brother? You’re not only a reviewer, you’re a brilliant critic
@Stephen_Lafferty
@Stephen_Lafferty Год назад
Rene works for RU-vid now.
@shiriajin
@shiriajin Год назад
@@Stephen_Lafferty really? I hope they pay him enough. There is something wrong with the algorithm somehow. I’m not getting any notifications from any Canadian video creator and a lot of my favourites are in Canada. Rene was on top of that list.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
@@shiriajin Thank you, and maybe this will help? ru-vid.comzXzGdvBwGcI
@shiriajin
@shiriajin Год назад
@@ReneRitchie thank you. Keep up the brilliant work.
@shiriajin
@shiriajin Год назад
@@ReneRitchie btw, I’m subscribed on Nebula. Can your content be different there? Can you do reviews there but not RU-vid?
@djrajindu
@djrajindu Год назад
I miss your tech review videos so much Rene
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
🚀 Visit www.brilliant.org/reneritchie to start learning STEM for FREE! First 200 get 20% off their annual premium subscription! 🔥 Mac Silicon Interview: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s12Mnw9LmrA.html 🤔 Are you getting an M2 MacBook Pro or Mac mini?
@JohnSmith-iv8zm
@JohnSmith-iv8zm Год назад
Rene, love how you’re putting the spotlight on other youtubers’ reviews. Plus adding your own expertise about chips, etc.
@kylenewberry2598
@kylenewberry2598 Год назад
I'm appreciative of your views. I jumped from the 2012 pre retina 15 mbp all the way to a M1 Pro 16 MBP. Your point of buy the best you can afford when you upgrade.
@jesseandersen4055
@jesseandersen4055 Год назад
I believe we’ve been hearing it’s not a tsmc issue with the gpu but they used the room for the 20th gpu core for other things. It’s not binned there is no 20th core.
@andreelb
@andreelb Год назад
I need your HomePod 2 video! Loved your take on the OG homepod.
@74molly
@74molly Год назад
I love how you break it down and keep it simple, full and rich with information.
@Ashan360
@Ashan360 Год назад
I think your backlighting may be too strong. The lighting on your face looks so muted. Might be an HDR processing thing?
@Wokiis
@Wokiis Год назад
According to youtuber High Yield's breakdown of the die, there is apparently only 38 cores there. The "missing space" doesn't look like the other clusters and might possibly be something for improving performance scaling.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Oh, interesting. There are for sure trade-offs that have to be made given the limits of even ridiculously high transistor counts. Hope we see more on this!
@Krell666
@Krell666 Год назад
It seems to be some sort of improved IO/cache for the GPU, I think Apple is trying to fix the GPU scaling issues on M1.
@coy9898
@coy9898 Год назад
MKB would be proud, love the sweater
@504cool
@504cool Год назад
Thanks for the video Rene!
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Thanks for watching, what would you like to see next?
@504cool
@504cool Год назад
@@ReneRitchie However the spirits moves you man. However it’d be great if it moved you at least twice a month 😆. Translation: I enjoy the content, would like to see just a little bit more of the schedule permits… nothing everyday or every week, but maybe a few times a month if that’s possible.
@cactustweeter2890
@cactustweeter2890 Год назад
Rene I miss hearing your well thought out perspective on things.
@jo69123
@jo69123 Год назад
How can the M2 compete with intel or Amd chips, that are clocked 3 times higher?
@PatchouliSky1
@PatchouliSky1 Год назад
It strikes me that most of the reviewers of Apple products are mostly talking to other video creators. These reviews seem to be mostly about video production, rendering speed, etc. I think that is mostly due to the fact that updates to products deal mostly with power to run more processes, and how fast, rather than new programs that come in handy to the average computer user. Obviously, we've hit a wall when it comes to WHAT a computer will do, as opposed to HOW FAST a computer will do something.
@keithwalls6316
@keithwalls6316 Год назад
Like you, I don't care about the SD Card slot. I use Cfe. But I want to see what they're going to do with the Studio this year.
@sam5n0w
@sam5n0w Год назад
I miss your reviews 😢
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Honestly, I needed a break. All the sensationalism and catastrophizing to get attention around Mac Studio and MacBook Air really soured me on the whole scene. It's been nice to step away from that and get some perspective! Maybe I can eventually figure out something better?
@yannickmichel2566
@yannickmichel2566 Год назад
finally, finally someone did what i would have done years ago (if i was also a youtuber) and thank you Rene for finally correcting him and pin pointing that he obviously is just a consumer and has NO technical knowhow whatsoever!
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster Год назад
I'm with you. When an update is available, it should be updated. This whole "I bought it 6 months ago and now there's a new one!" thing is a junk way of thinking, the capabilities of yours didn't change, what someone could buy anew today did.
@NBTJacklyn
@NBTJacklyn Год назад
This is so well made wow Like a genuinely incredible very interesting video wow
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Appreciate you so much!
@achtungjamie
@achtungjamie Год назад
I enjoy this channel more than ever.
@chemystify
@chemystify Год назад
Consider the die shot of the M2 Pro with 19 GPU cores. If it were really a yield issue that kept TSMC from offering 20 GPU cores, you would see 20 GPU cores in the die shot, allowing for one to be bad. But instead you see 19 cores (one of the 20 blocks is clearly different from the others, indicating it's not a GPU core), where all are operational. So I don't think it's a yield issue. I.e., if you etch 20 cores, where sometimes one is bad, such that you can only consistently offer 19 cores, that's yield issue. But if you are instead etching 19 cores (as it appears they are doing), and getting all of them, that's not a yield issue. ...Unless, of course, Apple has doctored the die shots, which come from Apple (these are not independtly-sourced shot of unlidded dies).
@watchcommander2012
@watchcommander2012 Год назад
Hi Rene a really brilliant well balanced video that is always your trademark. I love the videos like these from you and look forward to more of them your freedom from the Apple product sent for review gives you even more of the respect and credibility you always had.
@OreoChief117
@OreoChief117 Год назад
Great to hear from you, RU-vid has not been the same without 🙌
@abidibrahimsafwan3974
@abidibrahimsafwan3974 Год назад
5:21 N4P is the 3rd Gen 5nm not 4th Gen, and it is a successor to last year N5P.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Isn't N4 3rd gen and N4P 4th gen?
@abidibrahimsafwan3974
@abidibrahimsafwan3974 Год назад
@Rene Ritchie I think N4 is a replacement for N5 starting from 2021. N5P is 2nd Gen 5nm, and N4P is 3rd Gen 5nm.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Год назад
I'll wait for the M3 versions. At least with M3, it'll run *WAY* cooler and memory management with the multiple CPU and GPU cores will work way better.
@pepsicolazero
@pepsicolazero Год назад
I’m waiting for M6
@nomadhedge
@nomadhedge Год назад
I'm going for M7, because it will be better than the M6.
@RACAPE
@RACAPE Год назад
Nah, the M10 will be better, but I will wait for M11 because I want the best
@jmssun
@jmssun Год назад
This video made it sounded like TSMC was hitting a fab design wall.. but as far as I know, they are progressing quite smoothly. Many articles were clear that the reason A16 got stuck with older fab process was due to Apple’s internal decision making issues,, or infighting, causing changes in design made too late. The fault may be on Apple, and not on TSMC
@melgross
@melgross Год назад
I’ve dreamed that Apple would have enough room to have a small module port that would allow different readers to be inserted for SD cards or Express Sony A cards, or the B cards that most everyone else uses (my Canon).
@kaysha
@kaysha Год назад
With these intro product videos, Apple is slowly moving past the release stuff at WWDC and yearly. Bump everything all the time is the way 💯 I might get one of these laptops soon
@NBTJacklyn
@NBTJacklyn Год назад
Ahhhh :12 honored 🫶🙏🏻
@nashsanadiki3104
@nashsanadiki3104 Год назад
When in doubt never proof read your timelines featured in your unveil video 😂
@Travisharger
@Travisharger Год назад
Been waiting for this
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Me too! What would you like to see next?
@trparky
@trparky Год назад
Yes!!! Thank you Rene! Thank you for finally mentioning what I've been complaining about ever since these new M2 models have come out, the single channel/chip SSD. It positively kills SSD performance and only serves to cheapen the Mac lineup.
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist Год назад
Too bad the M2's SSD speeds are slower than those on the M1 because they dropped one controller.
@RvonA
@RvonA Год назад
I need one of these :-) but like 8K € for laptop ?!?! Hmmmm
@TheDaysEnd
@TheDaysEnd Год назад
Maybe the reason they don’t update iMacs is because they realize they can milk the customer more with individual products (solo monitors and solo desktop devices). Maybe they will just discontinue the all in one’s going forwards. Personally I want 6k, 7k, 8k (all the latest resolutions over time)Pro Display XDR all in one iMacs. Maybe even add touch functionality to them too.
@Hard_7_Iron
@Hard_7_Iron Год назад
miss the vids brother.....I hope you are well.
@casperes0912
@casperes0912 Год назад
The M2 Pro and Max GPUs are actually not binned. While it may seem so because 19 is an odd number and not 2x the M2's 10, there are in fact only 19 cores on a full M2 Pro die. No fused off core. And there's some unidentified logic where the core could've been that doesn't look the same pattern as a core. So for Pro and Max the GPUs are intentionally designed differently. Furthermore, the M2 Max is not exactly a mirrored doubling of the Pro like it was on M1 Max. It's similar but the layout is slightly different to a Pro die
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics Год назад
Fresh bread is always better. Wifi 6e isn't that big of a deal for me. I have a wifi 6 router and I get the same 300Mbps over wifi anywhere in the house that Spectrum delivers to me over wire. 6E won't make that any better for me.
@kevinmckenna5682
@kevinmckenna5682 Год назад
The 19 core GPU is NOT binned-down. It really has 19 cores. You can count them yourself in the photos of the SoC.
@ghost-user559
@ghost-user559 Год назад
Yes but I believe it should be 20? So 19 itself *IS* one core short.
@EyesOfByes
@EyesOfByes Год назад
And Apple should have bought Optane tech, so we didn't have to worry about endurance and write speeds when SSD is full.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Or just made the next level the base level?
@abidibrahimsafwan3974
@abidibrahimsafwan3974 Год назад
I think A16 Bionic is N4P.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
N4, I think? N4P only started ramping up recently?
@tjd3434
@tjd3434 Год назад
We miss the artist formerly known as Rene Ritchie though understand you need a full time gig, just don’t sell your soul to the technocrats
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 Год назад
In truth, I miss Rene’s in depth analysis on techno nerd issues. EG, why ChatGPT scaring Google? Why didn’t Google release similar AI earlier?
@chloefletcher9612
@chloefletcher9612 Год назад
Can someone update me on why Rene can't review anymore? What's changed?
@bonedatt
@bonedatt Год назад
Someone said he took a position in Google's RU-vid, so it may create some conflict if he continued doing reviews on RU-vid. 🤷🏿‍♂️
@nidusyaldabaoth2428
@nidusyaldabaoth2428 Год назад
No to the way AI is created and sold.
@gibdi0n
@gibdi0n Год назад
macbooks are excellent GPU-less laptop and that is all...
@HaikuOezu
@HaikuOezu Год назад
I have a feeling Apple is looking into moving to in-house(er) Silicon - yield issues aside they can’t be happy about TMSC raising prices on them That would be a better investment than a car (or even AR if you ask me) It’s not as exciting to the general public but the idea of seeing AS potentially even less held back just makes me giddy Assuming they can pull that off, of course
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster Год назад
Even for Apple, keeping up with bleeding edge chip foundries is just massive massive capex. Also keep in mind wafer costs increased, but this isn't proportional to chip cost increases, as you can fit the same transistors on less size now, though Apple usually increases the transistor budget instead.
@HaikuOezu
@HaikuOezu Год назад
@@tipoomaster Absolutely! I wasn't implying that TSMC was raising prices outta nowhere - but Apple playing a game of chicken with the contract renewal makes me feel like they're not happy about it Also it's not so much them raising prices as much as them getting rid of bulk discounts. Getting those discounts was Tim Cook's specialty and you can bet he's not happy about it.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
I think Apple is going to invest in packaging to work around the physical and financial limits TSMC is hitting on pure process shrink?
@nidalspam509
@nidalspam509 Год назад
ever since they switched, their laptops have become so much more competitive with the windows laptop field. I upgrade from an 8th gen i5 to an m1 pro 14 and the battery life and performence is nuts. I'm interested to see what plans they have of bringing things like wifi, bluetooth, and cellular modems in house
@HaikuOezu
@HaikuOezu Год назад
@@nidalspam509 It's a night and day difference. The temperatures are what shock me the most - my MBA doesn't even have a fan and it runs half as hot when streaming with OBS as my previous Intel did while doing light browsing and other productivity tasks
@theREDMASKchannel
@theREDMASKchannel Год назад
TONE DEAF, hurts my ears
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife Год назад
You are so weird now Rene. What are you doing?
@United_Wings
@United_Wings Год назад
🤔🤔🤔🤔
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
And...?
@99cya
@99cya Год назад
Sorry but without reviews this content is kinda useless to me.
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
Lots of other stuff on RU-vid to watch!
@99cya
@99cya Год назад
@@ReneRitchie Yes indeed.
@jamison74
@jamison74 Год назад
Go away Pixel/Chromebook traitor 🙄
@dalbertsnyc
@dalbertsnyc Год назад
Wish you would continue to review instead of becoming a Brand politician. 😢
@ReneRitchie
@ReneRitchie Год назад
I'm the opposite of a brand politician, I'm a creator advocate!
@ghost-user559
@ghost-user559 Год назад
@@ReneRitchie Tell us what is happening on RU-vid and why we are all being constantly black listed and shadow-banned? Why can’t we see replies below comments anymore? Why do I have to check my notifications to see a friendly comment and have a conversation while the actual comments are invisible? Why are there often 120 comments with 40 visible? Why is this platform acting in an editorial manner if they claim not to be a publisher and why do adult channels have to be beholden to the rules of RU-vid Kids when RU-vid Kids *exists* ? I would love to hear your actual feedback and constructive advice, but all I see on your other channel is Corporate Propaganda for alphabet. What do we do when no one ever listens to us and we are constantly penalized for using the platform? Honestly what is happening at RU-vid and are you actually in a position to do anything concrete beyond corporate talking points and platitudes? We love you Rene, but you did step into the ring as a representative of the corporation that is acting as the defacto Orwellian government of the world, and it is not all puppies and rainbows associated with your new bosses. Please help us or at least admit your position in practice has no authority to actually help. Can you actually truly help us or answer legitimate questions? I’m not even a creator and I have zero respect for this company the way they are treating users and creators alike. What is happening with RU-vid?
@rarerubber
@rarerubber Год назад
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@nakedbananas444
@nakedbananas444 Год назад
A review of reviews? Really? I don’t want to say anything unkind but I’m so disappointed by your journey, selling out to Money (Google) pretending it’s not so…
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