Mac Studio - New Real World Issues List after 2 Months.. 

Thanks man, I was so close in making a huge mistake.

heyy, congrats on 900k, I have been watching u since very early days ~200k. May god bless you with millions of subscribers and views man !!

I mentioned you in that MacRumors thread a few days ago so very cool to see you addressing it in a video.

Im still plenty happy with my 14” m1 pro machine :) tbh, it really does seem like you can have a professional work flow on all m1 machines, regardless of tier. I got rid of m1 Mac mini bc I wanted portability, but I really don’t think I needed the extra hp for Logic Pro.

Good info! Keep up the great work you guys 👍

Also appreciate the info. More than small issues.

thanks for another great video!

I appreciate the consistency and dedication in all these detailed videos-Keep up the amazing and awesome quality content🔥🔥🙂!.

Could you make a video about the difficulty of optimization to ARM and ultra? You guys make the best in depth videos. So cool to see this channel growing! I loved the videos about Vulcan, ARM V9. A deep dive video about the the lack of ray tracing. I’m not a gamer. I just which 3D and BIM CAD have a chance. Wish this’ll come.

Great video. Where did you get that shirt ?

An update would be great, as it’s been enough time for any software bugs to be fixed and it should be fully optimised now.

Hi guys and thank’s for all your hard work. I’ve been following along for quite some time now and went with your initial suggestion on getting the 48 core Ultra instead of the 64 core. Ordered directly from Apple on march 16th and just had an e-mail from Apple informing me it should arrive next Tuesday may 3rd. Initially Apple stated it would take 10 to 12 weeks to arrive (living in Canada and all...), but now it seems i’ll be getting it after 7 weeks (minus one day). I probably won’t be a good (objective) candidate to evaluate the Studio combo since i’ll be upgrading from a dying mid 2011 27’’ iMac. I’m pretty sure i’ll just be overwhelmed by the performance of the computer and the Display’s image quality. Aside from my TV i’ve never seen a 4k display up close let alone a 5k one. This being said the damm box better be quiet or it’s going right back to Apple no matter how long it takes to get another one. I’ve waited this long, a few months won’t make a difference you know ? Although i wish it be ‘’perfect’’ right out of the box. Have a great day guys 🙂

Received my Mac Studio 2tb on Thursday 4/28 that I waited about a month for. Had the horrendous fan noise. The replacement offered eta was June 23. Spinning down the fan to 1100rpm was very helpful along with moving the Mac Studio about 3 feet away from me. The genius bar confirmed they could hear the high pitched noise but their floor model doesn't have the issue. Oddly, I am leaning towards keeping this unit because it is the devil i know versus the one I don't.

I appreciate your reviews since you don’t approach them as positive spin fanboys. Showing the negative is critical. I would like to see you add After After effects to the export tests. It has a different render engine than Premiere or Encoder.

Faster chips can cause software problems been through this in past as a server admin. Things are executing so much faster that things that were in a loop waiting for something to finish do realize what it was waiting for was already done before the loop was even setup. That and overly simplified description of issues I had to deal with a couple times. So increase speed can create a whole new world of pain for software. Especially software that is timing based.

I was wondering if you can make a review of the new XPS 13 plus and perhaps compare that to the m1 MacBooks. I heard that this new XPS is a VERY powerful machine

Are you guys going to review the XPS 13 Plus?

Have you guys tested any longer video export times? Like 45 minutes or longer? I’ve seen some other people suggest there actually IS a different when you are doing longer videos! I would love to see your results

on these media engines have you tried to compare inputting a bunch of videos? like 40 videos scaled down in an image instead of just converting a video 1 to 1?

Hey guys, is it good time to get a Mac studio M1max now? Wonder how M2Pro chips will perform.

@maxtech Why are you getting the M1 max version when you already have it in your MacBook Pro and thus won’t have faster exporting times. Is for one of your employees?

This is why you never want to be an early adopter of new products. Give them a while to work the bugs out

Loving my Ultra/64/128/4 machine. So quiet, cool, and fast for everything I do. Lightroom Classic 53,000 NEF photo imports (2TB of images) and previews done in well under an hour. The facial recognition is incredibly fast too. Finally a usable feature! Also the Topaz suite of Denoise, Gigapixel, Sharpen, & video upscaling is insanely quick. I wasn’t normally a video guy as it was too frustrating slow to process on my old rig but I’m finally using FCP and applying something like stabilisation is now a few seconds instead of minutes! My only concern is that the WindowServer process seems to be taking up 30% of the GPU with 3 monitors (5K & 2x4K) when not doing anything. I’m not sure if that’s slowing down the applications when I actually need the GPU power. Would love to know why it’s busy all the time. Oh and it took very little time to load over 100GB of application data into RAM. I’m not regretting the 128GB RAM option! Main regret is not going for the 8TB internal storage as the price increase from 4TB actually is competitive to an external NVMe connection but would also have been faster. Great buy! Studio Display is still on order and I’m guessing that will be the let down given the camera seems to be junk.

I have had a LOT of issues. External hard drives seem to completely spin down all the time, despite me setting them to stay running. They also seem to run MUCH slower than on my iMac Pro. One of my external video drives, when it's being used, causes BEACHBALLS after almost ANYTHING I do. Apple Music seems to skip all the time, very odd.

I bought the Mac Studio M1 Max with baseline CPU/GPU, 32gig ram, 2tb SSD, and had the issue with the whine. It was still present at 1100 RPM of the fan. I actually brought it to an Apple store, and they told me they could not reproduce the issue and all the hardware was normal and would not do anything about it. I'm guessing the room they tested it in was not as quiet as my home office since it's only audible when there is no other noise. Debating if I should return it and wait another 6-8 weeks in hopes that another new one won't have the same issue...

So glad ive jumped for the 16inch mbp max at xmas then wait for one of these, found no issues with mine even when fans ramp up it still quiet, most of problems ive had have been with software issue, this is why ive said before apple is just shoving new ios , mac os , ipad os versions out every yr and then spend the rest of the yr throwing out updates

Thank you for the reviews. Well the excitement of the announcement of MacStudio has waned, and so has my desire to immediatley upgrade my 2017 iMac Pro Intel 10 Core with 64GB of RAM to a new Mac Studio. It didn't help that the Studio Display has similar specs to my current iMac 5k screen. I will wait a bit for the fan and other issues to resolve, and see if anything is announced in June as far as Mac Pro or a 7K external display is concerned. I did order my iMac Pro when they were first announced, but was fortunate there were no major issues with that release. If I do purchase the Studio, I will likely stick to the Max chipset and use the difference for increased RAM and SSD. I do still love my 2017 iMac Pro!

I love mine, it’s way better with Lightroom than my 2017 MacBook Pro. The fan doesn’t make any noise, and I work at night when it’s quiet, I would hear it. Favorite thing: the display.

So far I have been really happy with my base model Mac Studio.

Hi, and I’ve just inherited a 27” 2013 iMac, 3.2 Ghz, 16/1TB (Mojave) and it works perfect . - . My normal daily workhorse is a 13” 2015 Retina MacBook Pro, 2.9 Ghz, 16/256 (Big Sur) - and it works perfect, too. The questions: which of these machines should I use as my daily desktop driver? And is it worth keeping them both?

So which config did you guys go for M1 Max with 32 GPU and 64 unified memory?

QUESTION: What's the point of the upcoming Mac Pro if the Ultra isn't seeing the gains to justify the cost?

Any improvement since then ?

Your second export graph refutes the criticisms of the first (shows the Ultras exporting at much higher speed). My understanding of h.264 is that it doesn't parallelise well whereas h.265 does. Also, exports with adjustments will lean on the CPU/GPU so detract from the 2x theoretical encoder speedup. Why is the M1 Ultra throttling? It's not a thermal issue so why? The GPU winds the clock right down when low occupancy is detected but this is crazy.

Is the studio display a touch screen? You would have to add a mouse and keyboard to use it stand alone - would you not?

How do You get the 'Configurator Tool' onto Your Mac when it has crashed and does not boot??

Man I have so many audio glitches pops crackles and issues with Logic also crazy video flickering via HDMI M1 Max - considering sending it back and going back to a Mini 🙄

Great deep-dive video as usual. Has anyone looked into the CA laws on PC power usage? The less upgradable the PC, the less power it is allowed to use. I think this is restricting the functionality of the Mac Studio. Also, the cable from the PSU to the MB is tiny (from what I saw in tear down videos) likely has to be restricted to the tiny wire doesn’t melt.

I own a Mac Studio display, and while I agree that the webcam sucks (worse than the one in my 2013 iMac), the thing that annoys me the most is the lack of a power button. I originally thought, “who cares about a power button?”, but that was before I realized that I was going to have to occasionally power-cycle the monitor to work around issues like the speakers no longer producing sound. It has only been a few times, but having to reach behind my desk into the rat’s nest of cables back there to unplug the thing is really annoying to me.

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Should I wait for ipad 10th gen or buy ipad 9th gen on my birthday this month???

For a video editor (Final Cut Pro primarily)....I am torn between a 1tb internal SSD or 2tb.....I have ALWAYS used external SSDs....should I not even care and just continue with 1TB? Is the internal SSD THAT much better then a TB4 SSD?

Was going to bin PP and move over to FCP. Think now I’ll just go straight to DR !

XPS 13 Plus Vs MacBook Please

They’re prob saving the better camera quality for the next 7k studio display that’s potentially coming out this year. Mainly for marketing to push you to get it

The sound is because they use blower style fans like on the 1080 GPU's and other cards, they always have loud high pitched whine because of those blowers, it's just inherently how they are so...

Man I Studio Display as an Apple TV seems like an obvious win... I guess there is the problem of connectivity... but adding WIFI doesn't seem crazy out of the question.

I have one serious issue with my M1 Max (low end version). I have 2 external USB C SSD drives which are plugged into rear Thunderbolt ports. When my Mac goes into powersave and shuts down, those drives are not ejected cleanly, so I get the the MacOS drives not ejected error messages on spin up. Should I be worried about my SSDs getting corrupted over time?

I spent £8k on the Mac Pro in Jan 2020 and it was the WORST money I've ever spent on hardware! Just a weedy machine where I often spent much of my time staring at a spinning beach ball (even though I upgraded the GPU). When Apple released the Mac Studio - again to much fanfare, proclamations of top speed/perfromance etc. - I tried contacting them to complain that my Mac Pro is a piece of shit...their response was - "too bad...buy the new product" they couldn't have cared less. Have bought Apple machines as a Video Editor for decades but now thinking I'll never buy their over-priced, underperforming products again! I've now sold the Mac Pro and was considering a Mac Studio Ultra...not now!!!!! Seems to me that they market these machines as something they aren't - gushing about speed/performance that isn't achievable. Time to ditch Apple/Final Cut for Premiere and a Ryzen PC build!!!!! Their customer service is the worst I've experienced from any tech company.

You won’t be able to use Studio Display like a standalone machine. There are few reasons for it. First is the video channel going into the display is directly wired to work with thunderbolt 4 hardware. A13 chips won’t be able to handle the refresh throughput required to drive that 5k. If I were to make educated guess, at most they may have a minimum capability to run the display in a restricted debug mode with a reduced display quality. Don’t expect Apple of all companies to expose that to the users. Second, the wiring of the A13 are specifically made to communicate with the thunderbolt like a USB attached “hub” for speaker, mic and camera. The peripherals works in two modes, a pass through where A13 just appears as a hub that is supplying camera, speaker and mic to the PC/MAC on the other end or a mode where A13 device specific controller is accessible to PC/MAC of which only Mac know how to operate it.

Hell true man

I love FCPX but this encourages me to give DR a spin.

Regarding chapter 6 where he talks about optimising for the M1, where can I see more information about Apple making it easier to optimise for the M2 and future M chips? I feel like Adobe have never optimised After Effects to run at a Macs full potential. My 10core iMac Pro never seems to get pushed hard with After Effects, no matter what I chuck at it, I just have to sit there and wait for it to do ittthing whilst watching the CPUs and GPU idling. When I open Davinci and create the same effects in Fusion all CPUs and GPU are turned up to Max and the effect is done in quarter of the time it took in After Effects. Slowly moving away from Adobe. Just need more time to learn Fusion.

If I enable hey siri when the studio goes to sleep the fans stay on all the time. If I disable hey siri the fans turn off during sleep, but I’ve noticed the studio is warm to the touch. Can you please help me with this? Have you heard of this issue?

Ok

Agree, apple should unleash the studio display full capability. But I think it will come, and with Universal control become more mature, maybe one day for some simply task, laptop users can simply bring their laptop close to the display and use that as external monitor.

I really love my mac studio, besides the fact it takes 5+min to be able to connect to my monitor

A photographer friend bought a monitor from BenQ that seems to have good specs and accurate color. Anyone have any views?

Having iPhone 11 capabilities in what is marketed and sold as a "display" would be redundant, as anyone paying that much for a professional display is presumably hooking it up to a professional computer, but... if all the hardware is there from the SoC to the RAM to the SSD storage, why not? Even if just for novelty purposes, having a 27" iPhone 11 minus touch iOS input would be entertaining at minimum. Also highlights that any modern smart TV is essentially just that: a smart phone minus the touch panel and a smart phone app store.

(If you are still building a list of Mac Studio problems) I was so excited to get my Mac Studio. I've been waiting for an option like this since the 2013 trash can model. But... I have a clear problem. I use 3 monitors and every time I start, restart or wake from sleep, my Mac Studio puts the monitors in a random order. It starts with monitors in a 123 order, but then it is a dice roll each time I use it. The monitors could be 231, 213, 312 or any possible combination. It's a 2-3 minute fix. I have to go into System preferences/Displays and rearrange them each time. And then pull my windows back and forth to have specific screens where I want them. Not a horrible problem, but not one the best (IMO) computer company in the world should have. Apple apparently doesn't know how to fix it yet. After being escalated to highest level, they told me it would be addressed in a future OS update. The first one didn't include my fix. Hoping for the next.

I think the idea of having some sort of browser or interface outside of the Studio Display isn't a great one - primarily because there is no control over the display. How would it know if you were done with your session and to turn off, for example? Does the chip in the display actually have the capability to tap into the ports? The big consideration is if the Studio Display has a wifi antenna. It might not. If it doesn't, then there's really nothing you can do with the chip on its own. But, let's assume for a minute that it's a full board with the proper wifi antenna. IMO, the solution is to, instead of loading up iOS and navigate some interface, start with making tvOS better. tvOS doesn't have the capability for webcams or audio input, but it does have the capability to drive audio, and that's really the only part that differentiates the two. Since tvOS is a fork of iOS anyway, they could really monopolize on this: * Give tvOS the capability to handle incoming video and audio streams. * Produce an Apple webcam dedicated for use with tvOS over Thread or Wifi, so you could make Facetime calls, with Centerstage, on your TV. Families with an AppleTV but, say, Android phones and PCs, now can make Facetime calls with their family. No cables (except for power, unless it can work off a battery) needed. * Bring this revised version of tvOS to the Studio Display. Considering that you're dropping that much on an Apple-only display - one that works with Apple devices, so you likely have another Apple computer - you more than likely also own an iPhone or iPad, which has the remote app built in to the OS. That would be such a simple thing - run tvOS when your mac is disconnected or sleeping. Add a few settings when run on the Studio Display to configure when it would turn on (never, when turned on via the remote, or when no signal is detected), and, bam, you've got a great experience. The only thing that would be troublesome is it's a 5k display, and tvOS supports 4k. Would that mean scaling? Black bars? AppleTV's aren't that expensive, and what you get, by comparison, is basically already built in to the display, aside from the HDMI output (not necessary) and the ethernet port. But maybe, if there isn't a wifi antenna, it could detect an ethernet dongle (if that's possible) and try to connect with it. And, even when running macOS off your Mac Studio or MacBook or whatever, it could continue to act as a Home Hub in the background, as long as it's plugged in. I think it would be a killer proposition for Apple to do this, and, for me, would make this monitor go from an "eh, I've got an Ultrafine, it works well" to "this serves two purposes and makes my life easier."

I hope the quad encoder issue doesn't end up like the nearly pointless dual GPUs in the Trashcan that almost no one supported. Thinking maybe better to wait for Mac Pro...hmm

Just returned mine after a week of purchase

The more I watch these kind of videos the more I wonder why I bought the Mac Studio Ultra 48. Are these things trash? I haven't even received it yet and I'm already down about it. I appreciate the effort and hard work it takes to make these videos as I'm a video editor too. But, can't we just have something that costs a lot of money be really really good?

I listened very closely to my studio with M1 ultra, and I didn’t notice anything like that

Anyone know the frequency of that fan whine? Our ability to hear high frequency falls off as we age. I'm the only person who regularly goes near my computer setup so a whine that is above my hearing range would not be a problem.

I've had my M1 Studio base for about 6 weeks now and mine is completely silent, I guess I got lucky! Thus far, knock on wood, mine has been perfect! Thank you for going through these though in case they show up. I definitely appreciate the depth you guys go into your reviews. Nice to see the negatives!

I will definitely go for an M-Mac once they have RTX support in the hardware for the GPUs and once they are optimized well enough to make better use of the hardware. Don't get me wrong, the M-Macs are amazing with their efficiency. Still I would value it a lot if they would run the GPU with RTX components and higher Speed but less battery time. But at least I would love to see blender performance like on a mobile RTX 3080 or upcoming 4080 mobile. I would be fine not to get the desktop performance but to be on par with it mobile wise in stuff like Blender, Maya and Octance, well I would throw my money at them. But this takes time and currently I am rendering on windows stuff and just turn on my Mac for little research. But I will be back and hope for Apple to solve all my issues and get HDMI 2.1 into pro machines(another weird cost saving choice). The display is a bummer, it is too expensive, it is overengineered, the A-Chip is useless, they could even think about face unlook or stuff like that. Yes, great speakers, yes, great contrast, yes very sharp and good IPS. For 1,4k with height adjustable stand totally fine. But no real native HDR, no 144 Hz, no dimming zones, no hdmi 2.1 and so on. It is beautiful but beautiful doesn't make the cut if you need "damn good, almost perfect".

So besides fan noise issue no big problems. SW issues will get resolved over time.

I have had the base Mac Studio with 2TB for about 20 days. Four times it has happened that when I have woken up the computer, it gives me message that "your computer was restarted because of a problem" - it states " LLC Bus error from CPU1 FAR=0x5c0183018 LLC_ERR_STS/ADR/INF=0x11000ffc0000 .... continues more such text". And separately three times when computer was woken up, the internet connection was not recognized. On restarting, it recognized internet fine. However, I have not experienced any noise issue or computer not responding when turned on, as mentioned in this video. Any suggestions on what should I do? Should I consider returning the Mac Studio ? I used a 27 inch Imac from Feb 2011 until this Mac Studio, and never once this situation happened with it.

@MaxTech Also there is the 4K scaling issue (macs GPUs having trouble with 4K monitors with scaling) I wish you guys address this issue - in your professional way - I only found this guy talking about this very important issue: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kpX561_XM20.html

XPS 13 plus vs MacBook pro

the worst part is still the unit putting hard drives to sleep whenever it wants to... such a complete pain when editing!

Anybody else have an issue where the keyboard takes like 10 seconds to connect after boot up? It boots so fast then I have to wait for the keyboard to connect. I got the brand new one that came out with the Mac studio.

I have bought some high end front cameras like the Logitech bro. They all suck lmfao. They are definitely I feel for influencers with a ring camera. Im just trying to get to this zoom meeting and get stuff done. I do like the iPhone work around you did in the last video. So for me the camera I don’t care. Im more into cleaning up my set up. So great screen, speakers and camera. Sign me up.

the cost of this + display just make no sense compared to a modern iMac imo.. If they dump the 27" iMac i'm out... and that's after 30+ years of macs.

Niiiice

Should have put TVOS on the monitor. Just throw in a remote.

What this video tells me is when Apple releases the new MacPro it will be a bad proposition at least for now

Glad to finally see you talk about the noise issue. Its weird that so few people mention the idle 1300 rpm noise. Its not silent at all. 15dB according to apple. My measurements 20-25 dB. Its noticeable in a quiet environment. And no, if you have an AC on its not a quiet environment.

I actually ordered both the the Studio M1 Ultra and Studio Display, but after viewing this video I am seriously considering cancelling my order. The potential of whining fans on a $4K Ultra-that’s a hard NO. Sucky camera on the Studio Display? I wish Apple had an option where you opt for the camera, but pay less for the monitor without the janky camera. I’d rather purchase a third-party camera of superior quality and affix it to the monitor versus this nonsense. I still own two Apple iSight cameras (that I haven’t used in eons) that I wish Apple had kept making and improving. Apple, Apple, Apple…

“It just works.” 😹

Your channel always has thorough well thought out reviews. But I’ve started to notice you post too often and too much about one specific product. Honestly every NEW device and software update is going to have bugs and issues that come with it. So my feedback really revolves around you spending too much time reviewing one very new product vs. bouncing around between products to allow for updates and new releases. Early adopters are always going to have issues.

Very detail Love it

Anybody else having audio playback issues to the Studio Display? It constantly stutters. I’m having to play the audio out of the Mac studio instead of the display.

Cheaped out on the important stuff , fans and psu , typical bean counter Tim Cook

Davinci does not support prores raw lol

Hopefully the Mac Studios with Apple M1 Ultra with 20-core CPU, 64-core GPU, 32-core Neural Engine, does not become the "new" Mac Pro Late 2013!

Not the fans. Absolutely not the fans... that metallic sounding "whine" happened even when altering the speed of the fans... and it's penetrating...

$100 camera module would add retail price $200-$300.

I am sure it's not an Apple recommendation to put candles close to your Mac...

I am so happy with my Mac Pro (2013). It still works like a charm and is as quiet as a mouse. Insanely beautiful and innovative design. No, it is not for sale.

People love to whine stupidly about Apple. The fans are quieter than any Windows Pc, stop being babies.

These "realworld test" are made in a world without stills ;) No word about PS, LR and C1. And everybody ignore the fact, that the Apple displays still are not hardware calibratable…

One thing that reviewers should be doing to apply the proper context for the webcam is to show what the videos feeds look like coming through the other side of a zoom call. Right now reviewers are just taking the raw feed and uploading to RU-vid, which has much better quality than zoom compression. RU-vidrs are constantly thinking about video from the perspective of how would you look on RU-vid, but that’s not what this is for.

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Perhaps there wouldn't be chip shortages and or system shortages, if all the you tubers stop order 2-4 units of each model.

Got my Ultra yesterday and man, you've got me really bummed about this $4000 paper weight.

Me not impressed with Apple’s ice cream tub…would rather get 3 Mac Mini for the same price.

O no Apple the shit they don't have issues their software everything is great .. 👌