Making a Railroad Track anvil on the K&T MILL / Metal Lathe work

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Today my railroad track anvil gets a new flat face thanks to the K&T mill. I've wanted to do for the past year or so but never did . I also do some bushing work on the Hendey metal lathe. Turned out nice. Thanks for watching and I hope to see some of you at the 2019 BarZ summer bash next week.
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@Robert-ko6wr 5 лет назад

You said, "Nice to have some balls in the shop every once in awhile..." That dry southern humor makes me smile every time! Great video!

@jeffcote3062 5 лет назад

I still remember the day Dad came home from town with two motorcycles, a KM100 and a KE125. that was 1978. With six kids in the family and twelve miles to town they got a lot of miles on them. I recently found the old KM100 on rummage website, same bike, just a little worse for wear, still starts on two kicks and runs pretty good. I'm now getting ready to restore it for my grandkids on the way and show off at family gatherings. great to see your son outdoors, so much better than the electronic "toys" the world is preoccupied with. Safe riding and many memories to make.

@devster52 5 лет назад

I liked the way you used those ball bearings to clamp on that angled surface. I have over twenty years machine shop experience but you showed me something new today. I have accumulated a bunch of ball bearings of various sizes and now have another way I can make use of them. Thanks.

@dmitryserov5595 5 лет назад

Nice to have some balls in the shop.

@hpelisr 5 лет назад

Great job as always, I like watching your videos. I grew up in Pittsburgh,Pa. so working with steel was everywhere. Pennsylvania like Ohio had a lot of machine shops, they where everywhere. To me that is the heart of America, along with all the other Eastern states. The industrial age was born.

@tuscanland 5 лет назад

I don't know why, but the sound of stone rubbing against a machined surface is so soothing to my ears!

@eyuptony 5 лет назад

I like them rapids on your mill, saves a lot of effort. Nice finish on that anvil.

@resipsaloquitur13 4 года назад

Balls in the shop... you need um. 😂

@OldIronMachineWorks 5 лет назад

Steve, nice seeing your K & T running. Wishing you and your wife a fun and safe trip to the bash.

@jamesacker7343 5 лет назад

I think stainless over the aluminum was the best idea ever. Light weight plus high wear resistance

@750VFR 5 лет назад

As an apprentice in 1967 I cut a piece off a length of railway line to make an anvil. Formed the beak but never did machine the top flat, think I'll have to take the angle grinder to it, no milling machine. Now in my seventies, some jobs just take a while to get done. 😂 Now if you were round the corner instead of an ocean away. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧

@jonathangriffin1120 5 лет назад

Steve, PLEASE don't wipe the swarf off the job with your bare hand, especially after using an end mill, a cheap paint brush will do the job much better and save you getting thin shards of steel embedded in your fingers. They might be almost invisible, but take it from an old'un, they bloody hurt!

@powder749 5 лет назад

Nice to have some balls in the shop... every once in a while, you need em. 🤣🤣🤣☠☠☠

@CraigLYoung 5 лет назад

Morning Steve! Good show! Have fun in California.

@gabewhisen3446 5 лет назад

Wow look at that Oil so clean that's something to be proud of there nice job on cleaning that old baby love the K&T mill

@bazzaf246 5 лет назад

Enjoyable as always, cheers Steve!

@MatthewScott 5 лет назад

Beautiful place. That Creek looks nice.

@willembeton 5 лет назад

very great video Steve ! alway s looking ad you !!

@daveanderson2316 5 лет назад

Thanks Steve, have fun at the bash.

@oh8wingman 5 лет назад

Railroad track steel is typically 1084 or equivalent hot rolled steel. This is a medium carbon steel with 0.7% to 0.8% carbon and 0.7% to 1% manganese. The manganese content causes the steel surface to work harden to resist wear but the core remains soft and ductile to resist impact. It’s tough, through-hardening, can be forged into shape and is great for heat treating. Rock crushers also use this type of steel for their jaws, rolls, or cones.

@dougankrum3328 5 лет назад

Yeah, the carbon and manganese make it nearly impossible to weld...although it seems to work ok with the thermite or high-temperature butt welds.

@rwhitenz 5 лет назад

Good to see the mini lathe getting some use in a shop with bigger gear. Nice contrast but i guess right tool for the job.

@MattysWorkshop 5 лет назад

Gday Steve, another great video, I hope you both enjoy you time at the bash as I’m sure you definitely will and a well deserved break and get away, ATB Matty 🇦🇺

@gabo2nd 6 месяцев назад

Pretty

@greasyfingerprints 5 лет назад

Your son has some balls on that dirtbike too.

@shannonstratton3164 5 лет назад

For simple thumb screws on the dials we just use Allen head bolts, already have that factory "knurl" on them. Been running them on my k&t for years. Just make sure there are no burrs under the dial from previous ambitious owners over tightening the originals.

@bigdawgsbusa2 5 лет назад

Morning Steve great content and having an anvil with a square and slightly round over edge is invaluable in the shop having a USA 1974 rail anvil adds that special touch of history, now if that rail could talk? Nice to see your son getting with it on the bike now have to work on getting you one I see A lot of father son riding going on in the future. Safe travels to you and your wife, have lots of fun in Rancho Cucamonga it's been twenty-five years for me being out there I'm sure lots have changed.

@classicrestoration 5 лет назад

Amazing transformation from winter to spring... beautiful! We live in the Southwest desert and only have two seasons...cold and windy and hot and windy🙄 Nice job on the KTM engine...jetting sounds spot on👍 KTM, "Keeps Taking Money" Looking forward to seeing you at the Bash.

@JamesDedmon 5 лет назад

Like the idea of flatting the railroad track. I do have a piece I use in the shop

@dillydallydollcomachineand8246 5 лет назад

HAHA That rail was made the same year i was born . My best Tighe

@emanuelmifsud849 6 месяцев назад

best for 2024

@ramsay19481 5 лет назад

I made an anvil much the same way probably 15 years ago with my 2hl universal K&T... My rail was a bit smaller though.. Good steel.. Manganese steel.. I put a pointed end on mine even a hardy hole in the rear.. Mike in Louisiana

@quirty864 5 лет назад

Man is that mill sweet.

@atbglenn 5 лет назад

Love your channel. I must say, your son handles that bike quite well.

@morgansilva7681 5 лет назад

Good job you just made your own speedy sleeve

@mikecabral1579 5 лет назад

I like that Black TeeShirt in the opening.

@Blazer02LS 5 лет назад

Looks like you have things well in hand. One thing to tell your boy, When the bike tries to kick around like it did at 14:40 resist the temptation of putting a leg out like that. It's a really easy way to break the leg or knee. BTDT, still have the screws in there holding the bone together...

@TomokosEnterprize 5 лет назад

Great post. I love the various pieces of track I have around the shop. One for every occasion eh. I really like the visits with you on here my friend. Too bad I am in northern BC Canada as it would be great to meet you at the bash. Just too many miles between us bud.

@denbusa1965 5 лет назад

Good morning steve ace video & have an ace time at the bash :-)

@deemstyle 5 лет назад

Just make sure you take that extra tool holder off the mill before you rapid it over! Lol- that part made me laugh! Love your stuff, Steve- keep it up!

@clydedecker765 5 лет назад

I'm all for building shelving near the mill of some kind for the mill cutters while changing them out.(Or maybe even storing them?) I know you'll get to it soon. Good luck at the Bar Z bash!!

@ypop417 5 лет назад

Steve as much rain you have been getting that stream may not dry up. Have Fun at The Bash!

@oldschool1993 5 лет назад

Grind an angle on your parting blade so the drop part comes off with no burr and touch your edges with a file before it drops.

@paulhunt598 5 лет назад

Steve, I would make the repair sleeve OD oversized, press in place, and then finish OD to size in the set-up you used to turn down the spacer seal damaged area. Any distortion caused by installation would be corrected and the sleeve OD would be on size and concentric to the ID. I like your idea big increasing spacer seal contact area life by using SS.

@jefferdman5921 5 лет назад

Nice video Steve. Just built an railroad anvil for my keying room to stamp keys. Just the right size not to heavy and it looks classic. Bushings should last much longer. Will not be at the bash this year. Sorry I will miss you.

@infoanorexic 5 лет назад

Have fun at the Bash. In case you haven't been out there before, it's ... different. If you are going to drive, be ready to drive like you are mad at the world and yet ready to go from 90 to zero in the blink of an eye!

@MaturePatriot 5 лет назад

Don't remove to much mass from the top. The biggest problem with the rail anvils is lack of mass under the striking surface. Nice job, it looks good.

@johnnyholland8765 5 лет назад

Carbide is a wonderful thing......... Don't know what the Rockwell is on rail material but it must be pretty hard from the look of those chips. I have an old piece of material laying around somewhere. I will have to take much lighter cuts but I think my old Bridgeport will do it. Everyone needs a bench anvil from time to time. Have fun at the Bash.

@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 5 лет назад

I hope you have a good time at the bash.

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

Thanks Harold 👍.

@mxdev6387 5 лет назад

My 2012 KTM 250SX has stainless retainers on the front and back for what its worth. The CR500's and YZ250/YZ125 I have around with aluminium wheel spacers all have grooves built up, but the KTM's still look factory fresh.

@jorafter 5 лет назад

Steve, I always enjoy your videos, no matter what you're doing. Hope to get a chance to shake your hand at The Bash.

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

Thank you very much 👍. Make sure to come up and say hello. Should be a good time.

@CraigsWorkshop 5 лет назад

Nice work on the anvil. I like the way you used those ball bearings on that milling job. Never seen that before, will definitely make a note. Is that KT a 50 taper spindle? That was a hefty end mill holder with the roughing end mill. Final question for now: what kind of spray mister are you using? That seems to be doing a great job, and I'm hoping to set up some kind of cooling soon on my new-to-me mill. Good thinking with the stainless caps. When you mentioned it, I assumed you'd make an entire new set from 4140 or similar. But - keeping the low weight of aluminium, and using stainless for it's non-rusting properties is smart on a dirt bike. Cheers, Craig

@EngineersWorkshop 5 лет назад

Nice, Steve! Love to see the K&T making stuff. Do you have anything besides muscle to put that vertical head in place?

@yhnbgt365 5 лет назад

Wow, an engineering notebook too. There is more to your career than you talk about.

@CatNolara 5 лет назад

This guy has balls of steel ... literally :D Nice video btw, I always enjoy watching your stuff

@marcellemay7721 5 лет назад

Balls are absolutely necessary in a shop, I've got big brass ones! 😜

@chevellechris1 5 лет назад

@@marcellemay7721 came here for this thread, was not disappointed.

@ke6bnl 5 лет назад

see ya at the bash

@carlwhite8225 5 лет назад

I do not have a flat top piece of track but have 4 that I have shaped for different Contours for shaping steel and aluminum, may consider that, thanks.

@danmetzger5583 5 лет назад

See you both there! You both have custom name tags coming too.

@RambozoClown 5 лет назад

I think you might want a longer drawbar, there. ;) Have fun at the bash.

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

LOL, it works for both the horizontal spindle and the vertical head.

@cannamay2725 5 лет назад

Forest looking different now you ever had that creek break its banks

@davesalzer3220 5 лет назад

That ol girl cuts nice

@bcbloc02 5 лет назад

So would you say that anvil is shop grade or inspection grade now? lol

@JJ-jv1gu 5 лет назад

bcbloc02 STAMP THAT ANVIL SS MADE IN KENTUCKY U.S.A.

@cuttingtooldesigner 5 лет назад

See you at the Bash Steve.

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

Looking forward to meeting you👍

@jacain1234 5 лет назад

Nice use of an arbor and glue! What was that past/lube you were using? Also, what kind of cutting fluid do you use? Love that anvil too.

@donpollard9460 5 лет назад

I presume you would make the end that had the hole in it, into a horn?? You'd probably do the same on the other end to get the heel - maybe not, as it will probably be close anyways! Flats would be nice ... and probably wouldn't take that long.

@peebee143 5 лет назад

Rail heads are normally finish ground to a radiused-edge flat surface. Normal wear causes the rail head to gradually become much more like the piece you have in the mill vice. Eventually the inner top edge will roll over.

@royreynolds108 5 лет назад

I am curious where you got this information. I have been working with rail since the late '50s and the only time rail is flat is if it has been machined or it is crane rail. Rail has always been designed with a radius on the top of the head as well as radii connecting every other surface so there will be no sharp corners to produce stress risers for cracks to form. The only time rails are machined are for switch points and frogs. Regular running rail still has mill scale on when shipped to the railroad. For special service rail is head hardened to reduce wear. You are correct that as rail wears it will roll over the edge-on the outside of the rail on the outside of a curve and both sides of the rail on the inside of a curve. The rolling is plastic deformation of the steel. The weight a single wheel of a 100-ton car loads a rail is about 33,000 lbs. sitting still and the area this load is applied is about the size of a US quarter.

@peebee143 5 лет назад

@@royreynolds108 Hi Roy, to all intents and purposes the top surface of a rail 'looks' flat to the untrained eye. I had not expected to get an expert reply. You will note I avoided mentioning the various degrees of hardness both at the rail's surface and beneath its surface at various points across its width. Rgds. Peter. I have a short section of 113lb/yd flat bottom rail which I use as an anvil at home, it's an off-cut from a section of new rail.

@EngineersWorkshop 5 лет назад

12" radius on top surface on the 60 lb rail we recently used on municipal equipment. Steve's piece was way heavier than that but the top radius was probably about 12" new.

@raincoast2396 5 лет назад

Looks like you have been having a lot of rain Steve.

@dizzolve 5 лет назад

what type metal will the new stainless be interacting with. will the rings now degrade it's mating piece

@shawndinterman2219 5 лет назад

Abom79 tour video brought me here l

@DavidTaylor-es1bt 5 лет назад

How do you legally acquire track? I've thought an anvil made from track was an appealing idea. But I have heard that there was no way to legally possess it.

@geckoproductions4128 5 лет назад

Hi Steve, video well done. It's nice to see some young guys with your skills and demeanor. Nice to see you wearing your safety glasses too. One thing though, you're going to have to put on some pounds to meet the weight requirement of experienced machinists!!!! HAHAHA just kidding.

@PALM311 5 лет назад

So Steve.....Are we going to hear about a derailment somewhere because a chunk of track is missing?

@ypop417 5 лет назад

Only in Canada, they came from CNR LOL

@martinu2725 5 лет назад

Do the other piece of track as a shaper project

@chrischapel9165 5 лет назад

Steve you mentioned "rail geometry"...anyhow I had a customer who worked for the LS &I RR in the U.P of MI...any he told me of how often they had to replace the rails cause the heavy loads of iron ore in the cars would wear away the rails big time especialy on curves...as they shipped the ore from the mines in ishpeming to the docks in marquette.

@SandBoxJohn 5 лет назад

Looks like that is what has happened, The rail appears to be 136lb section with about 1/4 of the head worn off before Steve milled it flat.

@royreynolds108 5 лет назад

@@SandBoxJohn From my past experience with railroads and rail I would say about 1/2 the head is worn off. If the base is 6 inches the rail could be 130 to 140 lbs/yd. Since he is in Kentucky, I doubt he would have access to the 150 to 155 lb Pennsy sections. There was a piece broken out taking most of the 4 from the 1974 date. The additional information on the web of the rail would have shown the rail pattern, mill where rolled, then after the 1974 would have been a number of lines to indicate the month rolled and whether it had been control cooled or continuously cast.. On the other side of the web would be a series of numbers indicating "heat" and bloom information or if it was continuously cast(a serial number of the batch of rails).

@SandBoxJohn 5 лет назад

@Roy Reynolds I have a cutoff section of 115lb that was never used. The web on it is almost a tall as steve's piece of rail. The head would not be much bigger, that's why I said 1/4 of the head is worn off.

@KG-yn9qi 5 лет назад

I'll be there its only aprox two hrs away from my home depending on traffic go down friday night stay in hotel be first one at Stands be the second event for me

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

I'll see you there 👍

@WillemvanLonden 5 лет назад

Sure, a man needs balls in the shop.

@SeanBZA 5 лет назад

Wonder why you did not do the edges, to get them square. I also have a rail anvil, and have the steel slipper it rests on as a base, making for a nice surface. Use a scrap piece of 1 1/2in stainless steel, cut out from a tank wall, as well for a small anvil, rough edges but flat top, and heavy enough for small jobs, but can be carried in one hand still.

@paulcopeland9035 5 лет назад

Why would you need square edges on an anvil? If I need to square up a piece, I believe I would not choose to beat it on an anvil.

@peterhaan9068 5 лет назад

What is the significance of your chips being blue?

@Blazer02LS 5 лет назад

Means they are coming off HOT...

@dizzolve 5 лет назад

1:57 lol - - yeah you can't get anything done in the shop if you're afraid of your own shadow

@workaholic5318 5 лет назад

Speedi-sleeve.

@raymondcote6669 4 года назад

But then my old ears don’t hear the high freq

@rustycowll5735 5 лет назад

Wow, that K&T really looks to be running rock solid. Good job, very impressive. You need to make some kind of rack for your tool holders. Balancing them on the small end on top of your table is inviting disaster, or at least unnecessary dings. After all that work restoring the mill and the tooling, it makes me cringe a little to watch you stand them up like that.

@xenonram 5 лет назад

It'll be just fine. Just close your eyes and imagine a "rack."

@paulcopeland9035 5 лет назад

@@xenonram ...Yes, I like your style!

@keithparady2594 5 лет назад

Ur boy is gonna be talking about u making parts for his bike for years

@mealex303 5 лет назад

Why do tiny passes when you have the biggest tooling a home shop can have???

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

Track is hard and like I said in the beginning I wasn't in a hurry. 10 inserts are not cheap either. That's why.

@jameswyatt1304 5 лет назад

Kinda surprised you didn't machine the flat spots on the base first, to make clamping easier, but the bearings and washers technique (not a hack, IMHO) is new to me. This ended-up in suggested videos and was enough to convince me to subscribe.

@SteveSummers 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching 👍. Glad to have you as a subscriber

@j-man72b72 5 лет назад

If I had the tool holders on the mill like that for a changeover, I'm almost guaranteed to knock one over onto the floor and destroy the cutter, lady luck was smiling down on you. KTM should be making those spacers just like you did, there should be more wear resistance on that surface than just aluminum.

@andrewscott820 5 лет назад

A set of riding boots are also good ppe but probably kinda pricey

@raymondcote6669 4 года назад

Not at all loud

@afriedli 5 лет назад

It will probably not be a surprise to your subscribers to learn that a high level of technology (metallurgical science) goes into the manufacture of rail track. A typical safe lifetime of a stretch of track can vary from around a year to over forty years depending on the environment, level and type of traffic, etc. Any given rail infrastructure, therefore, requires a continuous and directed inspection and maintenance program in order to operate reliably and safely. Rail track is constructed from very specialised steel alloys selected to optimally balance all of the various performance, safety, maintenance and cost requirements. As is so often the case, a lot of thought, expertise and care goes into what at first glance appear to be mundane things. The battle against the law of entropy is a constant labor!

@n2kbg 5 лет назад

I think your fix for the wheel spacers is doomed to failure. Stainless and aluminum paired together will cause galvanic corrosion and eat away the aluminum. If you were going to use any other common metal next to the aluminum you probably should have picked mild steel or cast iron (google "galvanic series"). A better choice might be to remake the spacers and then send them out to be hard anodized- or even give anodizing a try yourself if you're comfortable playing with acids, although getting true "hard anodized" results yourself is apparently very difficult.

@paulcopeland9035 5 лет назад

How many years will it be until he has to fix the "doomed to failure" sleeves? Cmon, this is a dirt bike, not an F1 car!

@chrisstephens6673 5 лет назад

Paul Copeland and doesn't galvanic corrosion need water, those spacers will in all probability be greased and largely in side oil seals. I fully expect his son to discover girls and cars before there is a problem.

@n2kbg 5 лет назад

It would be a few years before the aluminum could corrode enough that it stopped working as a spacer I guess so you're probably right. I'd be personally unhappy with corroding parts on my own machines but obviously not everyone shares that view.

@paulcopeland9035 5 лет назад

@@n2kbg ....Well, I am going to go out on a limb here, but I bet you have machines with a corroding part or two. That is my view..

@chrisstephens6673 5 лет назад

@@n2kbg in principle I agree with you but it is a disposable bike not a classic BMW, MV or Ducati. Thus speaks the owner of a couple of 45+ year old BMWs

@alanfarenden9378 5 лет назад

Get your son some riding gloves right away. Any spill, accident the hands HIT THE GROUND, (shouting!) Never ride without gloves, ask any motor sport professional. Rant over, be safe, ride safe. Not competant to comment on your skills as a machinist, but I do love watching you, learn something every time that I will never use.

@raymondcote6669 4 года назад

Sorry to s say but you talk too much and should DO while describing