original.honestly I kinda thing the dream team style looks like crap. The old style just had so much character to it and this version just doesn't compare. ALSO WHERE THE FUCK IS MY PARTNERS IN TIME?
Fawful's Minion Honestly, I like both. I became a fan when the originals were made, and I stayed for the DXs for them both. And I wouldn’t change that for anything.
I’m grateful. AlphaDream should’ve went with the sharply cartoony 2D animation style of either one or even all (if’s that is possible) predecessors from the 2000s before they went bankrupt.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nintendo buy the "Mario & Luigi" IP from Alphadream. I mean, the didn't bail them out but the ip can still survive.
More in tune with Luigi's character i think, if you take the beginning of Superstar Saga for example he REALLY doesn't wanna be on these journeys, he'd rather stay home
@@newtfigton8795 Let me explain myself: it bothered me at first because I love the energetic tone they have in the original, but later I thought "well, it sort of fits for Luigi"
@@Too1998 Yeah, i really hate the Dream team art style, it was the first thing that made me want not to buy dream team at first, and then they kept it for ... 4 game ? I feel like Bowser looks very bad in this artstyle too
The Cutehog Team I think the reason they did the BIS Remake first was because there were not any real DS gimmicks in Partners in Time. The only one I know is when you had to use the stylus only once and that’s it
Maybe, the members of AlphaDream will go on to form another company that makes a new Mario RPG series as a spiritual successor to Mario & Luigi. Fan games are always a possibility as well...
I’m just glad that we actually have these remakes for the Classic Mario & Luigi games since I never actually played the original Superstar Saga and Bowser’s Inside Story but did play Partners in Time. Next stop, Mario & Luigi on Nintendo Switch. (Please add Wario and Waluigi into the game!)
I know how you feel exactly. I felt the same about some Gamecube games that later get Wii releases or remakes. I still recomend you to try the original BiS if you can. Let's say they are at the same time equal and different, but I'm glad you're finally able to play these games.
The lack of microphone controls in the BIS remake is indeed the best thing about it. Makes me wish for a Zelda: Spirit Tracks remake that does away with it also.
Fawfuls minion ,you are the king of the countdown, putting so much heart into a genre many half ass for views, instead perfecting it and putting your heart into maximum overdrive ,on top of communicating with your fans. You are the youtuber who got me into tf2 despite watching many other tf2 gmod videos for literal years prior ,and you are by and large my favorite youtuber to quote with my friends thanks to your poetic way with words and wacky personality. Keep up the amazing work you beautiful bean, and thanks for the years of chortles and entertainment you've given hundreds of thousands of people across the internet. I hope one day to have the same level of personality, wit , determination and hard work you put into your passion. Dont you ever stop being incredible Logan
Finally someone said it. The framerate and overall slowed down gameplay of the BiS Remake is annoying and make it a lot less fun to play compared to the original.
It’s weird that the BIS remake isn’t at 60 FPS... either the game had a way lower budget than superstar saga DX, or the 3D giant battles took up a lot of memory space on the game cartridge so they had to slow things down 🤷♂️
@@unclegrandpagaming165 I think it was cause Alphadream was running out of money when they made this. They needed a quick cash-grab to get back on track. That doesn't excuse it, though. They could've spent the money making a new Mario and Luigi game for the Switch instead of remakes.
@@Stinktofu0021 "I don't care/noticed it" doesn't magically remove the problem from existence. It's not about finding a reason to go 60fps, it's about finding a reason to *NOT* go 60fps. 60fps is the default and is much smoother than 30fps, especially for a game like Mario & Luigi. It's factually a problem that had no reason to happen considering Superstar Saga DX was smooth 60fps.
We’ve had 4 games use the DT engine and yet unitonically DT is arguably still the best looking game. The dream aesthetics and fantastic world design was great especially since the remakes got rid of 3D attacks
Funny and sad at the same time. Dream team's artstyle was simply designed for 3d, and since the remakes weren't 3d and paper jam was meshed with paper, dream team ended up being the most appealing in the end.
Martanis_IV the one thing that bothers me about the Magic Window is that you can’t use it indefinitely like in the original. It was an allowance for skilled players in late game, and an incentive to explore Bowser’s Castle as Mario and Luigi.
Yeah but magic window was amazing and fast while in the remake it was slow and bad on my recent playthrpugh of the game I was tempted not to get it but I wanted to get the beams and blocks down there
One think that bothers me with the remakes is a lack of a a hardmode. They added it to dream team so they showed that they can do it and it greatly boosted my enjoyment of the game. Another thing I never got is why they didn't add badges to the superstar saga remake. If you're gonna go for the gameplay updates go in all the way I'd say.
Luckily, I played it on a emulator so I just had to modify the sound of the game and simulate the mic I literary had to do nothing to win that battle was just clicking the icon and use the punch in the mountain thing and to counterattack
At this point, as much as I want them to remaster PIT, I honestly want them to move on to the next main line M&L game. I want a brand new story, new characters, new abilities, new lands to explore, new music to hear. I want a *new* M&L game. Not a remaster, a new one. It'd be perfect to put it on the Switch as well.
Here’s how I want Partners in Time to be remastered. They make both versions of Princess Leach much more capable of themselves. Like I said before, even though I find Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time to be underappreciated like its predecessor, at the same time, I could see why people might have a problem with it, that being Princess Peach (both the adult and baby version) sounding like and being token damsels.
I’m very glad someone brought up the butchered sound bits. The two instances where I preferred the original was Bowser’s whiffed jab in his fight at the toad town hospital where I thought the grunts and tripping was exceptionally funny, and Dark Fawful’s giggles when using the suction headgear 360 attack during his fight in Peach’s castle. They are little things, but it’s those that you tend to notice the most.
Yoko’s usually hit or miss when she remixes. But when she makes new music? GOOD LORD IS IT AWESOME. Seriously, The final boss theme of Bowser Jr’s Journey is nothing short of amazing! Easily my second favorite song behind In the Final!
I liked Superstar Saga DX and thought Bowser's Minions was a good side story. Bowser's Inside Story DX, meh take it or leave it. I did like Bowser Jr's Journey though.
Fawful's Minion should have covered Bowser Jr's Journey Journey a lot more than he actually did. The story is on par with the main games stories (Except for Paper Jam obviously.), which is surprising since Bowser's Minions isn't. He also did not cover music from the side stories which I think the new music from BJJ would have made him appreciate BIS's music more. It really makes me wonder if he even completed it. It only gets really good after you complete your first visit to Blubble Lake, so that makes me even more concerned with how long Fawful played it.
@@6k546 wouldn't be surprised if I'm being honest. Pushing forward (wheeze) is VERY hard in that game. Bowser jr. Is still an annoying little shit for the first half, and the gameplay is simply hot garbage, even if it is improved from bowsers minions.
Great video, but I would have added these points Good: Taking a note from dream team, Bowser’s giant bosses have been added to the arena, so no longer do we have to replay the entire game to re-experience the fun giant battles (+2) Bad: So you can add giant battles, a fun distraction, to the gauntlet, but you didn’t even add Bowser’s main battles to the gauntlet? What the hell? I want my Dark Fawful EX goddamnit! (+2) Why does the Dark Star EX use the normal boss theme when Antasma X from Dream Team reused the Antasma battle theme? (+1)
BISDX's new title theme is... good, but I really wish they remade the original instead, and I absolutely HATE what they did to the minigame theme. But overall, I love the remastered BIS soundtrack!
Blessed or Messed: Paper Mario: Color Splash. Is it as messed as Sticker Star or is it in the range of Blessed of M&L: Paper Jam? Seriously, I'm still waiting on that episode...
Kyle / DEA187MDKjr the story is the same though atleast bis dx has a good story and a good side story like the original bis paper jam isn't a bad game but it also isnt a good game id say it's a 6/10
@@DarkFawful Also, the part that sickens me is how some Paper Mario fans are clamoring that AlphaDream's bankruptcy means Paper Mario will go back to it's roots. Dude, just, no.
These both have my blessing, they are some of the best looking games on the system, the music is top notch, the combat is great, and they make aome improvements as well, they are by no means perfect remakes but i still love them. (Also im one of the few who legitamently enjoyed the side modes plus we got more fawful lines from them so thats a plus.)
I'm personally not a fan of the remasters. Dream Team's new graphics were great, but seeing the same models, voice clips and general sound design over and over and over again just gets... boring. I actually prefer the more pixelated look of the older games
I am a fan of the graphics myself, however they shouldn't have reused as many sprites as they did. Toads have never looked more plain and boring (Even the 2 latest paper mario games had more expressiveness than this), they could have done with more exaggeration like they did with the remastered sprites for Popple and Cackletta, and they could have maybe done something with the colors, such as making some things more vibrant. Overall, I'd say that they could have done better. I am not tired of the graphics, just dont want them reusing the same sprites over and over again. Atleast give the same sprites some new animations, like with Mario and Luigi's battle animations.
They have steadily gotten better every game to the point that they barely even look like the Dream Team models anymore, besides, why fix what isn’t broken?
@@hyperdrive282 Exactly. Although a little change my be good, why waste all the effort they put into making the sprites in the first place? Dream Team took so long to develope mostly because of the sprite work alone. If I spent that long on valuable assets for games, I would want to use them more often too.
The next Mario and Luigi rpg need to take notes from Cuphead. A beautiful Cartoon graphics that homage the original Pixel artstyle of the first three games.
These 2 are an automatic blessed from me, I absolutely love how they updated them, especially BISDX. And that's coming from someone who's favorite game ever is BIS, but God damn did the remake blow me away.
theres ONE thing i find unforgivable about BiS DX luigi's sprite doesnt dance on the level up screen. in the original version, luigi does a fun little shuffle, in the remake, he just stands there.
I prefer both the DX versions. Though it is a real bummer that the Challenge Medal no longer makes the game harder, at least that means Bowser X won't be even more infuriating than he already is.
Welp, maybe he doesn’t like to see what’s so bad about it, since then again, he did defend Super Mario Sunshine, Sonic Forces, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Lost World and most 3D Sonic games including Sonic Free Riders.
I got a 2DS last Saturday and played Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, and it is amazing, I'm almost at the end of the game! After I finish it, I'm gonna play Bowser's Minions Mode! Then when I'm finish the game, I'm gonna get and play Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey!
We need one of two: A Parthners in Time remake that fix things to the point it becomes one of the best, or a new incredible game for the switch, or better, BOTH.
What do you propose PiT DX "fix" that wouldn't involve a complete overhaul. As far as I understand people only moan about two things - linearity and Bros items. They could restore Bros points for the remake and get rid of the item stocking of those attacks but the linearity is fundamentally woven into the game. Keep in mind PiT is one of my favorites in the series because I don't have a pathological aversion to linearity like most gamers (who don't even seem to realize that ALL M&L games are completely linear - they just have open hub worlds to lightly disguise this fact), but they're not going to change the game's fundamental layout so what exactly did you have in mind?
@@ThrillingDuck I don't think the linearity of PiT is that much of an issue, I like just having a straight line to go in and having fun doing it. I think the main issue is how spammable the bro's moves are and how spongy the bosses are in the late game, they could fix it by making coins more scarce so you can't just buy 50 thousand cannonballers and destroy everything, and also making beans non-renewable so fawfuls shop doesn't feel like a cheap way of cheesing the difficulty of the entire game.
@@DannyCheezits I'm on board with all of this, though I still think restoring Bros Points would work a little better than money scarcity personally. Not that it seems likely PiT DX is ever gonna happen now anyway with Alpha Dream out of commission :(
also I didn't see much slow down on M & L BiS, maybe because I played on a new 3ds and they optimized it for the new 3ds and its better processing power
My favorite DS game of all time is actually Partners in Time. I just love how you can control two sets of characters at the same time, and the battle system is just awesome. Sucks that its the one game they didn't make a remake of. But maybe its a dodged bullet...
My thoughts exactly. They should have made a remake of Partners in Time. They knew the mistakes they made in this game, so why did they had to ignore it and make a remake of a game that was already successful?
I like SSDX, but the Bowser's Minions section actually managed to piss me off. I haven't played BISDX yet (at the time I send this reply), but I do hope the BJJ section is better than Bowser's Minions. And before I get replies saying that I'm not missing anything, I've already seen all the cutscenes. I'm testing the GAMEPLAY.
You know I think the problem with the art direction in these remakes isn’t the the sprite work itself. It looks great. It’s that it just doesn’t look as good as in a 2d game. Dream team had these 2d sprites in a 3D plane most of the time, along with the battles. Since the remakes are of a game that was originally 2d, they just weren’t meant for a 2d overworld. And I’m not saying the overworld is literally only left and right, but the overworld in dream team was *actual* 3D models. It was an actual 3D game.
they made the backgrounds in BIS DX be all super spectacular shiny and glossy and animated, yet kuzzle's furniture puzzles lay there motionless like a rock ='). with how lively the new backgrounds looked i was expecting the already animated kuzzle's furniture to look even more mesmerizing in the remake but nop, they're just still images... at least i can still enjoy the rest of the backgrounds. and am i the only one who genuinely enjoyed roaring/blowing into the mic during giant battle as if i were bowser himself?
Speaking as someone who played both superstar saga and bowsers inside story on release, based on what you said these remasters seem to serve as more than serviceable introductions to games a lot of people probably missed. Here’s hoping a new game with a new art style comes to the switch
Alright, let me be frank. I ain't never click on notifications or put time aside in my day for RU-vid...unless it's the whimsical Fawful's "Logan" Minion. Every video you make is a gold mine for me, and you have...honestly inspired the humor I love to give out (which I would classify as "what the hell am I saying?" Humor). Keep up the amazing work, Logan, I'll continue being excited for your videos.
well, I feel like SS DX was great because it brought Superstar Saga to a newer platform, so that people who hadn't played the original could play it... BIS DX just, releases on pretty much the same platform... I must say that I haven't played DX, but I just don't feel like the sprites give off as much "charm" as the original ones... Bowser also lost most of his charm in the DX... making him more like "angry evil bad guy" other than "slightly less evil bad guy who isn't really a bad guy for now" just... the change in design kinda is... ugly? I suppose...
I actually never had any lag issues for BIS DX. Also I wonder what he thinks about the bowser Jr's journey's battle theme, boss battle theme, and final boss battle theme.
Personally, I enjoyed both of the remakes, even the side games were fun. They fixed the problems that both the originals had. Here's hoping that they eventually remake Partners in Time, even if it's for the Switch Or even a new game, I'm all for that too!
I'm thinking then reason they didn't make a PIT remake was because they are making a new game on switch, and that they wanted to get out these remakes before this new game is announced.(just a personal theory though)
I personally think that both soundtracks of BiS are on equal footing, also if the M&L games on 3DS looked this good i can't wait to see how they look on the Switch
Maybe do a play through of them? I think it'd be a nice consistent thing between other vids and would be funny in general. Also, we NEED the next Star wars prequel blessed or messed.
7:57 I found that instead of having to blow into the mic, you could just rub your finger over it really fast. It makes a similar sound and confuses the mic, giving you an excellent almost every time. And you don’t end up looking like an idiot if your playing in public. Try this out next time you go back and play this game.
I was kind of surprised you didn’t talk more about the new side modes. Regardless of your taste in gameplay, I adore the heart they put into the actual plots. Especially with the character development they have Bowser Jr. poor kid needed a hug when he and Kamek were stranded at the beach... Also, I want to see a Blessed or messed episode centered around a Cartoon Network show at some point. I don’t care which one you pick.
It was really nice to see their interpretation of Bowser Jr and the explanation of why Bowser's minions are as devoted to him as they are. Also seeing Kamek is always nice.
I can say, without a single doubt in my mind, that both of these wonderful remakes are BLESSED to the core! So glad they remade these great games. It’s sad they’re getting so much hate.
bro I love the REMAKES i think there great. I love Fawful has his own battle theme (even tho it’s Cackletta theme) I love the Dark Star and Dark Fawful themes :)
The only Mario and Luigi game I ever played was Superstar Saga DX. And this video only made me happy that I played it because it was an amazing entry point into the series. Like if you subtract all of the messed penalties from the total, there's like... 2. That's amazing.
