MAX HOLY SH*T!!! | Stranger Things 4x4 Reaction 

Have you reacted to the terminator movies yet? If not, then you should totally do so!

But almost all ya'll talked about was Billy...

@@SpartanandPudgey did you notice Max was there? I thought you were, as always, blinded by your loss of Billy the Bully. Your obsession with him is the real Stranger Thing here!

Spartan, Pudgey.... Seriously you guys just get better and better. I'm so pumped for your star wars reactions.

I believe Max was in a trance the whole time at with her mom. That whole interaction was Vecna.😊

“But did you see when Billy did the Billy thing and Billy’d his Billy?” - Spartan, probably

@@bobbiop785 soooo powerful. Exactly. Take the monster piece out and look at it as someone facing their demons in depression: she was at the bottom of the abyss. And with thoughts of suicide hammering away at her, she made a choice. She chose life and had to fight with every fiber of her being to not give into a depression induced suicide. To fight for life. The way her friends were fighting for her and cradled her when finally came back to them... It's so beautiful.

exactly but it seems like they’re ignorant to that topic in this show so I doubt they even made that connection w the song and her depression

Facing her trauma, it’s actually done so well. It’s making me teary eyed even with the reaction being a filter

@@comeatmebro8120lmaoo frr idk why they miss billy so much like he did sacrifice himself them and stuff but are we forgetting how much of a racist person he was

This the one 💀

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@@EchanteDante but he will be forever in Spartan's happy memories...and sad memories...and funny memories...and scary memories...and romantic memories....🙄

and yet he does it again the next time

It is a little more than that. As I am sure you are aware there is a purpose for his killings, so he needs his victims to be at the peak of their emotions for his designs to work.

​@yashurishi549 it's an 80s horror movie trope. Done purposefully and for the story. To me it doesnt detract because it is purposeful. But to each his own

He ought to know. His father escaped the same way. I think when he's working remotely he has to break down his victims psychologically before he can kill them; get them to completely give up and accept their fate.

Vecna knows he will win, it’s that simple

THANK YOU!!!! they expecting to be scared out their boots when it’s not even supposed to be scary

Although technically she was in Vecna's head, which is a pretty important story point and Spartan picked up on Vecna's surprise that Max manifested inside his reality.

Oouuuu could be!

YEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

@@soggynugzit is he was literally singing it when he was hiding in castle byers

Season 5 will start with that song.

oh he does take some time here; he is pretty much getting into an argument to begin with

@@michaelklausyeah like how chrissy had all those scenes with her mother/father in the house before she died, and Fred was running through the woods away from loads of corpses; Vecna always takes his time.

@@brandonh4195 Okay let us put this spoiler shiled up here for those who ahve not finished the season. ... yes, he basically rushes in her to debate whether or not Max still is angy and sad about Billy's death because she has apparently found closure ont hat topic; we only learn later that Henry uses these emotions to fuel his powers and that his victims stay with him and make him stronger; which means the whole curse is only about nurturing these feelings to create and stabilize the gates; so Max surprisingly escapes and he cannot go after her... until she decides to let these feelings back in to lure him inot their trap; and then he kills her; so yeah... he was rushing it here, but then he played the long game and got her in the end

@@michaelklausfor Fred he took so long it went from the sun shining to being dark out by the time Fred actually died on the street. This is much shorter by comparison.

@@emmanuelare9576 they should get a room.

@@emmanuelare9576 Pudgey is just as bad.

Man crush

Yeah... same.

Yeah I enjoyed the rest of the season but this is my favourite episode from all the seasons so far.

The Kate Bush song remixed with the Stranger Things theme music in the second half of this season is permanently burned into my brain. Chills every time 🔥

Yes.

Kate Bush has saved more lives than just Max's.

Right? Like are the "nice memories" in the room with us now? 😂

the door is over there. nobody needs the announcement when you leave.

Most people watch the show and move on with their life, nobody sits in their home like a nerd analysing this shit. I mean it's great a message, if you get it then you get it and if you don't then you don't

Haha no doubt like I understand max grieving over billy but honestly in every scene we got billy in besides the very end when he does finally redeem himself a bit and sacrifice himself he was literally a psychopath and a racist and in general just an overall not good person and definitely not a good big brother Like y'all acting like if Billy didn't die he just suddenly have become a great person and a stand up citizen but honestly I seriously doubt that maybe if he had the self sacrifice moment and some how lived he be a better person but even than Billy would need a lot of major therapy and reflection to become a decent person and even than I have trouble imagining that actually happening...

😂😂

Spartan would definitely let Billy cuck him

🙄🤦

😂😂

I just think they have lower emotional intelligence and comprehension skills.

Exactly, it was amazing and the song just made it so much more! ❤

He's just aggravating at this point, almost feels intentional. Anyone does anything: "...oh but Billy!"

@@Sapoflorista He said Lucas became the joke of the season because he wasn't up to par with the gang about the murders, it's 4 episodes.

⁠​⁠@@TheJerbolthe dude refers to himself as king spartan and your suprised haha

@@canucksandbb not surprised at all

Everyone deserves redemption. Even Billy Willy.

Again, I'd honestly like to help you all out here. Please consider how pathetic it is to lower yourself to begging. All for what? A stranger's reaction to a fictional character? Like seriously channel that energy and emotion into something even remotely worthwhile.

@@tidepride86 Man did literally _one_ good thing and the glazing is unending

@@fredwin lol

​@@fredwin go take a shot and remove the stick from your butt

I like Spartan and believe he has a good heart. Some of the people he simps too make me cringe though. Like genuinely not good characters that exude masculinity, it's twisted.

⁠@@bbwayne11this sounds like the most back handed compliment ever.Let the man live without judgement

​@@bbwayne11 The way he dismissed Bob until almost his last moments....Bob, who was always sweet and nice, but he adores Billy the Bully 🤷🏻‍♀️

​@@bbwayne11Toxic masculinity specifically

@@bbwayne11 Billy is a great character, but not a good person. There’s a difference

I think that's why it impacted so many people. So many of us could empathize. I cried a flood of tears. I love how they handled it and I loved the creators for addressing depression and doing it in a way that is respectful, beautiful AND congruent with the show. It's believable that they'd have trauma and so unbelievable that they're all giggles most of the time.

Yeah and notice how not one of those flash back happy memories included Billy. And thank god. Because this episode WAS NOT ABOUT BILLY…AT ALL!!

I think Vecna is a great representation of things like depression, anxiety, shame, su*cidal feelings/ideation, etc. I was struggling with some of those very badly when this episode came out, I remember sobbing afterwards because I identify so much with Max (her family background is even kind of like mine) and just feeling so much. After that, for a while, when all that bullshit would start welling up I would remember Max fighting back, grabbing Vecna and ripping off a part of him, escaping back to her friends, I'd imagine I was her and I was fighting it off and making it back to the light. It helped a lot. I haven't felt the need to do that in a good while thankfully, but this episode still gets to me every time

Spartan's legit getting weird about it. Man was the definition of toxic trash, now he can't go 10 minutes without mentioning him

real

and Billy was never a good person!!! I think they focused on his tragic history, and forgot the rest of his life

​@@sirdoobiehowzer3888 no, its just calling out their weird behaviour?? worshipping and glazing a terrible person isnt normal

Same! I was so excited for this episode that I hit the like button on the way in. I had to take it back because the lack of appreciation for the Max scene is beyond disappointing. 😔

samesies

I'm done watching their reaction to this season, it's just frustrating. Spartan has the emotional depth of a puddle

@@TheJerbol so you want every reaction channel to be the exact same 💀i think their billy obsession is funny ngl. Not every reaction channel has to dissect every little thing and be emotional

​@alexanderfvarela They don't have to be the same, but they have to be reasonable This specific episode can not be made about anyone other than Max Like it or not ... Billy isn't part of this season in anyway They'll be like 4x1 .. life after Billy 4x2 .. Max depressed over Billy 4x3 ..where is Billy.. bring him back 4x4 .. oh Max's nice memories with Billy will save her from Vecna.. and Billy could have kicked Vecna's ass 😂 I bet you 4x5 .. if Papa is back, then Billy can be back too 4x6 .. those bats attacking Steve .. they wouldn't dare if that was Billy 4x7 .. So Henry Creel/one killed Billy 4x8 .. aren't we getting Billy back? 4x9 ..every one is hurting Vecna.. yes, vengeance for Billy 😂 It's literally that weird and stupid

Totally agree. It's hard watching Billy experience abuse from his father and it's tragic, but he was so scary in season 2 and he doesn't get a pass because of his trauma. I've experienced an older sibling like him and know how terrifying they are, especially when alone with them. So yeah, Max definitely would have felt relieved when he died and it's completely valid. I don't understand the love for the character, each to their own, though he is interesting to watch and a good antagonist for the series

This!!! When my dad died I felt a bit like Max. I wasn't mourning the relationship we had, but mourning what it COULD have been.

Did they completely dismiss how Billy was racist to Lucas and was a horrible person to Max and everyone like 95% of the time? I just don't get how they love him that much. He was abused by his father but that doesn't justify him becoming an abuser himself, coming from someone who was raised in that kind of environment I just don't get it.

​@@AddsWatchesthey said but you guys simple ignore.

​@@AddsWatchesAnd they like him because he is a well-developed and written character, arguably the best of season 3

I actually liked Rob for his GoT reactions. But yeah, they have horrible opinions most the time 😂

RT TV is trash. Sexist as hell and unsophisticated (like so many reactors. I had hope for S&P but S has proven to be like that too). Is Rob the one who hates El bc she slammed Lucas back in S1 for fighting with Mike? There's one dude in that team who's fixated on her, swears she's racist. Like GMAB. I don't follow them but I've caught some of Blind Wave and Badd Medicine and they seem to be much more elevated. Just that they talk too much.

I know, the way he misses Billy more than he misses Bob, a true hero and the nicest man ever!

@@susannariera Plus he was shitting on Bob when he did nothing wrong the entire first half of season 2. Almost like how a jock would bully the nerd in high school for no reason. Dude needs to grow up.

i say we want the underneath good guy/girl we kind of all have to win. i think spartan wants billy to fight vecna off. i understood max was stronger to fight him off because she has people she loves.

There are villains people like for example Death Vader and there are hero’s that suck. Billy’s character was interesting played by a good acting performance. Bob’s character absolutely sucked.

he will watch peaky blinders and it will be his favorite thing of all time. Spartan will stand up, squint his eyes and shout "YEAH DUUUUDE" every five minutes

Same. It really blew the audience away at the time, & raised the bar for ST, showcasing other characters, touching on deeper themes & keeping us on the edge. And it wasn’t really appreciated.

@@pannonia77 right...and Billy wasn't on any of these happy memories...🙄

I've been waiting since the 80's for Kate to finally get her due. Thank God for the Duffner Bros.

@@magicbrownie1357 I just know that something good was gonna happen

Crazy how i was literally just saying this. I never scream at my screen or stand up while watching a show but this scene had me yelling for a fictional character to runnnnnnn.

@@magicbrownie1357You’re so real for this

Would you rather he react dishonestly?

⁠@@rexibhazoboa7097any reaction at all would have been great. But generally it seems he lacks the emotional capacity to process these more intricate moments in shows.

yeah like wtf lol

@@MooseCrossing262eh he makes a good point. He did have a reaction it just wasnt the one you wanted. This was personally top 3 episode for me but heg not everyones gonna feel that way

God forbid anyone act differently to you

Exactly!!!

Bob, don't forget about Bob, the nicest man, so sweet and good to everyone who also sacrificed himself. But I guess he wasn't manly enough for them.

But is he worse than Vecna? Hm?

@@vilmavanninen6950who said he was gang 😂

All those other characters have a safety net of some sort. That probably helps.

It's a character. Chill

@@realisticthought1781say that to spartan then

you guys keep saying that about Billy but then you all cheer when El splits open Angelas face.

@@unrelatedcoma because Angela literally brought up el’s dad so at the very least Angela deserved worse but Billy was even worse becuase he tried to run over kids and he was a raging racist

🤣🤣

@@SpartanandPudgey not a compliment

​@@SpartanandPudgeythis is not supposed to be funny..

@@SpartanandPudgeyAnd this response shows how little you actually understand this show or what people are saying about your poor, misplaced reaction

@@wtfdaav you guys are insufferable, go patronise someone else

Spartan will not hop off of Billy's D

He was being sarcastic. Obviously a supernatural interdimensional being isnt gonna die to a regular dude

@Cardioligist he wasnt being sarcastic though. His simping for Billy is very obvious to us all. It's ok. It's his opinion and feelings. I just felt that him saying Billy would kick Vecnas ass was ridiculous and needed to be called out!

@@taylorludwig32 Yes hes simping but thats the whole point of the joke, hes insinuating billy would “kick vecnas ass” which is obviously not true. Its called sarcasm! Thats the literal definition

@Cardioligist you should do some more studying on what ACTUAL sarcasm means. Because that ain't it fam!

@@lovelyedits472 He racially attacked a child too.

Louder for the people in the back!

"The problem is". Jesus if you can't watch their reaction without snapping at them, then don't watch their reactions at all. Not everybody interprets things like you do. The world is diverse in viewpoints. We used to celebrate that once, now people can't tolerate it, and so many of them are in the ST fanbase. Billy was an asshole who, in the end, chose the ultimate heroic act. He sacrificed himself to save an innocent stranger. If so many ST fans could read between the lines they would see why. He did it because Eleven freed him, not just from the mind flayer, but from the mental prison he was in because of his father. The man who controlled his life and policed everything, including his emotions. Eleven was probably the only person to show him legitimate compassion since his mother left. To show him that it is not wrong to miss her and to grieve over her decision to leave him. The moment that changed his life for the worse, and his father, the original monster, metaphorically possessed him. He couldn't show empathy, he couldn't be nice to anybody or else he's some "fa**ot" like his father said. Even when Eleven asked Billy to show her what happened, he showed her his mother, the abuse she suffered, his failed attempts to protect her because he was too small to resist his father, etc. He showed that to her along with the mind flayer. Then she figured it out, she knew how to bring him back. She knew what would give him the power to resist the influence of the mind flayer and return to before all of this happened, when he was loved and cared for, when he wasn't fucking miserable. She freed him, and in return he did what he couldn't do for his mother, he used his strength to protect Eleven, the innocent, from the monster. He finally fought back and won, only it cost him his life. He stayed alive just long enough to tell max he was sorry. That doesn't erase anything he did in the past of course, but not all characters can have a perfect redemption arc. The past can't be changed, you can't do anything but decide in the moment. In the end he got it right and did something that not only saved Eleven but is likely to have far reaching consequences for everyone. I appreciate how the wrapped it up for Billy, and gave his shitty personality and actions some context that can be understood. And I felt for Max in S4, because she is struggling with the loss and the fact that while they all stood there and looked in, he took on the mind flayer, one on one, and died. The guilt that she probably never even knew he was capable of that. Even the "I'm sorry" makes it so much more complicated for her. She only truly met Billy right before he died. Her journey in s4 requires that. It's the entire basis of Vecna targeting her.

He was “psycho” in season 2, in season 3 he did nothing wrong and saved Karen actually + the whole world also

@@tbtb771u just talking

I guess according to some comments they’ve been done with the season already on Patreon. Assuming there were comments there calling out their unwarranted Billy obsession, it’s safe to assume they’re standing their ground.

@@spazzout1k350 maybe you should rewatch?

@@tbtb771 Bob was never a psycho, also saved everyone and you don't see them talking about him on every single scene.

Absolutely LOVED that Robert Englund was in this.

The weird sound whenever a ticking clock is displayed also seems to be a nod to the old nightmare on elm street sound effects

It was great to have him in the show. I went from thinking "Oh they ripped off Nightmare on Elm Street." to "Oh, this is an Homage! I love it!"

It’s much more than ‘Nightmare’, it’s 80’s horror as a whole. And it was amazing!

I always think when Dustin says "We've got bigger problems than Jason," that, yeah, you've got Freddy.

Its because Spartan wants to be Billy. Being racist and a bully. He just don’t have the balls for it.

@@DonArsuk84 bro get some help

@@beaux2585 he was interesting character. I was glad when Bob died because his character sucked.

@@arnie019 Joffrey and Ramsey Bolton in GoT were "interesting characters" too. At least Bob went out a hero after being a good guy, Billy was a jerk and died as one.

Exactly, like this was really a powerful ep and since Max is one of the main characters we really needed a longer screentime with vecna here and it was disappointing when their reactions were so bland to all of it, crazy how THIS song slightly reminded spartan of dustin and suzie's song like what- 🙂

Everyone collectively cried a sigh of relief when Max fell to the ground lol

@@aoitishjyat.neelam2199 ikr i don't get it why they don't give a shit about her, it's like top 3 characters for most of ppl, since people got annoyed by Mike and some other chatacters

@@cosmo588 😭😭 ik, that was THE expericence

No one is forced to react like you, okay? I love Max but I didn't have a tension reaction or anything like that in the scene, I was just anxious, but I knew she wouldn't die

maybe you should relax too then

@@TTArt no i don't

@@sirdoobiehowzer3888 calm down it's not that serious lol 💀

Great points!

Yep he ain't that bright unfortunately.

Don't worry. By the end of the season they will have convinced themselves that Vecna is a misunderstood saint and will go on gushing over him for several episodes. Seriously they are fangirling over Billy at the expense of the other kids who are true heroes.

@@bengilbert7655 guess what? JCB stans HAVE convinced themselves that Billy is worse than Vecna!

@@bengilbert7655 not only kids, what about Bob? He died saving everyone, always nice to everybody. They never say a word about him. It's all "billy, billy,billy....".

​@@susannarieraSome criticism of them missing the point of the episode is one thing, but "they never said a word about him (Bob)"? You serious? That's just wrong or outright lying. They were regularly bringing up Bob AND Barb throughout season 3. Spartan apologized several times for wrongly hating on Bob at first. Pretty sure Pudgey mentioned Barb again in season 4! Some of y'all are letting your emotions get the best of you, you're getting way off base.

I'm not sure they're sticking with the novels, though. Her attitude toward her father here seems less affectionate than it was in the novel. I suspect the showrunners want to maintain their freedom and not be boxed in by the tie-ins.

He definitely WAS a great character. Just not a great PERSON. And he could've absolutely kicked Pennywise's ass on his own, whereas Henry Bowers wouldn't have even tried to fight the mindflayer(I'm bringing this up because FAR too many of you have forgotten that this show is an homage to Stephen King's work, so yeah, it IS relevant).

@@vilmavanninen6950 Don’t compare Billy to Henry as if he had half as much depth as a character as Henry did. Like that’s my whole point. We didn’t get anything from him as a character before he bit the dust, so no he was not a great character 💀 He didn’t do anything redeeming or even remotely important before he got mind flayed, so by the time it was too late, only then did they finally start going more into his past and I honestly just didn’t care about it. It’s not like he ever planned on being a better person before everything happened so boo hoo. And that’s probably why the writers chose him to be the “host” of the mind flayer, because they made his character pointless and disposable 😂🤷🏽‍♀️

Ay yo based billy.

Billy ruined Billy. Let a shitty person take accountability at least

Bro Billy is dead already, he even apologised with his last breath, what more do you want from him?

@@tbtb771we don’t want nun from billy, their obsession wit him just needa stop

@@spazzout1k350 maybe you should just stop telling people what they should and shouldn’t enjoy? They are not your puppets

Same here, I wonder if they've even seen any of the movies, also they obviously have no idea about Kate Bush and her song! When Max started listening to her when I was watching this season it brought me back to how much I loved the song back in the day! ❤ I feel bad for this young generation and not knowing how awesome the 80's was!

lol at this point do the other characters need any development? they aren't billy so theyve already lost.

@@Shad0wmoses I like Billy cause he's well written but they seem to love him for him, as the racist he was.

If they give Max a hard time in the finale with the scene saying she wished for Billy’s death then I’m going to get angry 😤

@@DaadddyyyOh boy. I’m on their Patreon and… oh boy. That’s all I’ll say.

@@salvadormartinez8577oh no😳

Yep Vecna is basically Freddy and most reactors don't get the joke when Dustin says to Lucas "We have bigger problems than Jason"

@@harryballsak1123 thats so niche though i wouldnt expect any reactors to understand that in real time

@@alastairty8755 Yeah because Freddy and Jason were never compared or ever put in a movie together. Oh wait

Indeed, should have said "David Habour" instead of Hopper but you know, semantics lol

They said that before too when they showed him in episode 2 Trojan was like "oh he's lost some weight! He looks good!" dude he's being tortured and starved...

He’s like a shadow of himself

I just said this….that was cringy as H*ll! 🥴

@@Kiraiko44: The actor undoubtedly looks better though, and it shows even when they try to portray him as tortured and starved; that's what people are noticing. Also, who the hell is Trojan?

just you wait for episode 6 if you didn’t learn from the one where he gets abused at home..,

you just reminded me of something, Whats the timeline of the show have they been in the 80’s for 15 years😭

@@Kevin.Costner. What on earth gave you the idea that the show takes place over the course of even anywhere near 15 years? Season 1 takes place in 1983, and season 4 is year 1986

Never? Season 3 came out in 2019. FIVE YEARS AGO. It's just a tv show...

@@vilmavanninen6950so? They’re allowed to not like him

​@@vilmavanninen6950 Huh? Have you heard of immersion? It's normal to take a stance on characters in a film or tv show you watch, and decide wether you like them or not.. It's not like OP is straight up holding grudges over BIlly as a person. Ironically, by implying they do, and that they should get over it (despite it just being a tv show) makes you the one treating the show as real life..

FAXXXXXXXXXXXXX YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT I don’t like the fact that it didn’t impact them like that the way it did for the rest of the world but it’s ok I still love them

​@@kingkev6407people are different

@@KauanFelipe-px1qq true you’re right but still tho lol but you’re right

Facts

It sounded to me like it did impact Pudgey though

I’ve never been there myself personally, but I was able to grasp all of what was going on and the emotional weight of it all. The scene brought me to tears the first time and can easily still do it. I hope you’re still running up that hill yourself everyday.

It went to number 3! And number 1 on a number of national charts

@bblambo Spot on cheers mate^

YEPPPPPPPPPPP I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN HER 80s classic song again

I don't think they know that, I've never heard them mention it

antagonist:

Yeah, I'm not sure right at the end choosing to help the kids and his sister "redeems" him much after the crap he did, though to be fair he was also possessed by giant black smoke monster from another dimension etc. But the mental abuse he put Max through before that looked pretty bad as it is, so meh.

@@LordLOC I think it redeems him but yeah, we can’t just pretend like he wasn’t an asshole

If you guys can’t comprehend someone liking the character you don’t you can just not watch it, go somewhere else

@@tbtb771they’re literally obsessed with him dude

Daemon Targaryen too. You know, the abusive husband 💀

Reasons not excuses - exactly!

He wasn't really close to being a murderer you have to watch it a few times to really grasp his character it was all for show so people would fear him it was his way of having control because he had an abusive father and a mother who abandoned him and he resents Max because her mother married his dad and wanted to move away from California which is the only place he knew where his mom was he has no idea where she left to but he could have been looking for her and now he is states away but he is actually protective over Max the way he was of his mother he just had a weird way of showing it he came across more controlling but guarantee if he had seen anyone hit Max he would have attacked them and protected her but he liked having her fear him so she wouldn't step out of line do such horrible things he didn't want Max to think that he was that bad guy it's all very complex

Well said! The billy worship has gone long enough

Nah, you misread him. He's wearing a mask because the real him is vulnerable. That if he lets his guard down, people will treat him like his parents did. So happy for you though. But what if you didnt have friends, or teachers or anyone who cared? What if your family lied and nobody who could have helped believed you because the denial was easier to believe than the truth? Would you have turned out the same? would you take any sheyet from anyone or anything at that point? I honestly doubt it.

@@TheRepublican777 I'm not denying the complexity of traumas & coping mechanisms. Diving into Billy's psyche/reasoning is inevitable and rather obvious. Most viewers get what you stated and more, and Spartan/Pudgey explained this viewpoint extensively. I can only repeat that while the reasons for his behaviour are understandable they do not constitute excuses. Beating Steve to near-death, mentally harrassing his half-sister up to clearly abusive levels, constantly attacking those he perceives as weaker... Those are traits certainly dependent on his father's cruelty. Once again, having lived and currently living through the consequences of abuse, i can relate to Billy's ordeals. I too became violent recently ; But only when actual psychosis took over. Billy is clearly not psychotic, he chooses to discharge his pain on others. Doing it consciously is a huge difference. It implies choice and accountability.

Facts bro. Its gotten so annoying. Like we get it already.

To me, Billy was a damaged kid who could still be redeemed with hard work and a ton of therapy. But he was definitely never going to make a Steve-like turn into hero territory. So was it sad he died? Yes. Did we miss out on a new member of the team? No.

@@immortal5626stop watching then jfc, stop crying about it after every video, go watch someone else’s content. I’m sure there are plenty of other creators who will react the way you like

@@tbtb771dickriding

thank you. like did we all just forget about everything he's done?? why is everyone suddenly stanning him, I'm so tired of this...

@@yonta7260you can leave if you’re trying to tell people what characters they can and can’t like lol

@@yonta7260billy is a great character stop crying it’s not that deep to write in all caps 💀

Billy was a great character but a horrible person in literally every scene tell he sacrifices himself at the end Doesn't change the fact that man was a psychopath

@@maxvickrey4357Lmaoo you do realize his dad literally beats him and probably his whole family so there is a reason why he’s such a “bad person” I would say him sacrificing himself definitely redeemed himself ?

They probably like him so much because Dacre, who played Billy, is Australian in real life lol

I'm pretty sure it's because people expressed hate for Billy in the comments and that made them connect with him more. I don't understand the hate for Billy either - he a fascinating character, his back story gave us some empathy for him and ultimately he got a redemptive end.

​@@jonasfermefors bc they hate characters who haven't done even half of the things billy did before vecna got him. He redeemed himself at his last moment but it was too late 🤷🏻‍♀️ they've liked billy since season 2 before they even showed how abusive his dad was, even after him being racist and acting agressive with max.

​@@xNathyRibeiro exactly, but Bob had to die for them to show him some apreciation.

Justice for Billy!❤‍🩹

Same. I'll ride out the rest of ST just bc I love the show so much but I didn't click on their HOTD reaction nor the latest Chernobyl one. They'll do fine without me so it's no loss to them but it's better for me. The lack of sophistication, the chest beating bravado, the worship of male heroes only, and the disdain of any female character that doesn't either kick ass or kiss male ass has become tedious. Plus, I used to enjoy P but the constant trying to guess things and giddy smirking that she was right is annoying. And then I remember, they're still in their 20s and all the above is reflective of that. Hopefully they'll grow out of it as they age & confront more in life.

@@Hollygli i stopped watching the GOT videos when he called Dany cold for making Jorah leave when she found out he was passing info on her to Robert, but thought "Hey i'll give them a second chance with ST" and it was going fine until the last half of season 3 and now. I'm going to finish the rest of this season with them but that'll be it for me after this. It's fine to feel empathy for Billy but to down right worship him for sacrificing himself is crazy. It doesn't negate how abusive he was to Max, or racist he was towards Lucas, and him being abused himself isn't an excuse imo.