MELEE'S HALL OF FAME (ft. Cody Schwab) 

Similarly, anyone who pushed a character farther than anyone before gets in. Kage amsa and jmook for sure earn it on that basis

my b is my favorite melee tech that would also qualify the legend John himself for the list

@@Pwrplus5 Putting John on the list would actually be hilarious, omfg

@@andrewferguson6901 I get what what you're saying about pioneering a character - aMSa and Axe are the two prime examples of players who are Hall of Fame contenders just for their character contributions alone even ignoring their competitive performance - but I feel like there is a line that needs to be drawn, tbh. And for me, Kage is *RIGHT* on that line. Like, EddieMexico and Abate aren't on the list despite their contributions with Luigi. Junebug is currently doing some wild shit with DK. But even if you pioneer a character and are the best at that specific character, there is only so far that gets you. You could can be the best Bowser in the world; discover brand new tech, and completely reinvent the way that Bowser is played. But at the end of the day, you're still playing *Bowser*. If you are unable to demonstrate that your innovations are actually competitive, then it only effects that one character, not the wider scene. Cody explained this when Kage was brought up: Kage did great with Ganon, but his tournament record was inconsistent as a result of his character choice. The difference between him and aMSa or Axe is that the two of them demonstrated that their characters - who were previously considered unviable at the competitive level - can not only compete, but actually win majors. Before aMSa and Axe came around, both Pikachu and Yoshi were considered worse than Ganon - hell Yoshi was literally considered a BOTTOM tier with the likes of Kirby and Bower until around 2010. Nowadays, however, both characters are solidly considered to be within the upper end of mid-tier/lower end of high-tier. Throughout pretty much Melee's entire span, Ganon has been considered a mid-tier. Yet the former low-tiers of Pikachu and Yoshi have won majors, and no Ganon has ever won a major. I genuinely think that if Kage had a single year where he finished top 20, that feat *combined* with his contributions to Ganon would be enough to cement him as a Hall of Famer. But his work with Ganon by itself isn't quite enough in my opinion.

Obligatory "actually armada learned the armada shine from KJH", but its not like armada needs help getting on the list

Great video, also! I really like the idea of a Melee HoF and would love to see it organized and set into motion. Just wanted to chip in.

Just think of the “ice wtf is dat movement” clip. What a legend

We got a player in Manchester, UK whose tag is IBBW

@@deeptochatterjee532 sad state of affairs when you have to write "UK" after manchester

Great compilation of streams in the slippi and pre-slippi era when it's just not feasible to watch it all. Lots of great things. Probably responsible for a good portion of N0ne's viewership successes

I’m conflicted.. Pengboys stole so much content and screwed content creators as a result. But then there’s what you said

it is a valid point, how many melee players started with pm during those years?

@@J-WASH everyone has their own start into getting melee, I started with ultimate. But that doesn’t mean they get a consideration into the MELEE hall of fame. It’s not significant enough. Doesn’t it sound weird to put the developers of a Brawl mod into the melee hall of fame? They also didn’t make pm for people to get into melee. I’m sorry but it’s not a valid point

@@Rufus_BDwow i thought you were mad that they didnt make it in, ive met so many people who got into melee through PM and its basically melee 2 so i dont see how u say its irrelevant

@@vanillafella4893 I was wrong with being mad at the response, I don’t think I made that clear after responding to another commenter. I still hold the opinion that pm isn’t a significant enough to be considered into a melee hall of fame for helping people get into melee

Yeah idk how you can overlook the number one chess playe-- nvm

the proto kadano

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Every transphobe and sex offender

best to not bring any more attention to 2020 banned players

Oh it's itsbme! From Twitch chat! I am cynthiayg

@@Nawakooo0 yo!

Loving that G-town got a mention before all of them!

If you're only halfway through, then maybe you should get all the way through before making a comment asking for people to be on the list, because Dan Salvato, Anther and Fizzi are on the list.

@@Murph_E Yes, and I am happy for it! :)

I find it funny that the guy who made Doki Doki Literature Club is part of Melee's Hall of Fame

He's under dark age

Watch his streams, it seems like he's been doing well

He just decided to go by Cody now. His name was Cody Schwab on a lot of platforms for years anyway

he's in so many top 20s having the chance to travel to 3-4 tournaments a year playing in a region without competition. his movement was absolutely insane for its time. he literally traveled once last year and beat aklo while being semi-active...@Gundice

plus his 2on2 successes with leffen @Gundice

samox, the dude who made it, got in

it is

they put him in 2010

he should've been in fr

he is in there

@@cheryldragunoff4129 Nah it was a joke, I guess you weren't watching the stream. People kept asking where Hax was even though he was there.

yea bro having retarded views on things (his right as an american) somehow invalidates having arguably the most influential set in melee history. makes sense@Gundice

A little assault and battery is fine, but don't you dare point out that men are men and women are women.

"religious views" loool foh

quite literally is@@chadwicktouchdown

smashers have the intellectual maturity greater than a 15 year old girl challenge (impossible)@@goodwoodstudios3440

LACS alone is enough for him to be hall of fame

@@devinbowen2046fr these people forget the first lacs was before he even really got popular

the events he sets up gets him in

Good thing 'being popular' isn't the reason he's on the list then

dude he created an entire smash and chessboxing event garnering probably tens of thousands of completely new eyes on the scene... among his many other TO and other contributions... recall the first LACS was well before his blowup (~2019) ( think SFAT won that over axe for $1000 or something like that.