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@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 11 месяцев назад
MJ did more for the franchise of the Wizards than Agent 0 relevancy did for it
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 11 месяцев назад
Hell no
@StoneGone
@StoneGone 11 месяцев назад
@@boonebeasley9622you trolling 😂
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 11 месяцев назад
@@StoneGone Jordan didn't win not one playoff game for the wizards wtf are u serious
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 11 месяцев назад
@@boonebeasley9622Gil didn’t do sh** for the Wizards
@kylonp7311
@kylonp7311 10 месяцев назад
@@boonebeasley9622 u do realize lebum wasn’t making the playoffs in LA until ad a top 5 player came and saved him 🤡 jordan didn’t have no AD on the wizards 🤡🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@OhYummmmp
@OhYummmmp 11 месяцев назад
Seeing Kareem’s stats and accomplishments at 38 after Gil just said he wasn’t good had me dead 💀
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 11 месяцев назад
Because Gil just runs his mouth and doesn’t do research then Josiah checked him with the stats and Gil didn’t say sh** after 😂
@JBHarris21
@JBHarris21 11 месяцев назад
​@user-lt1fx2he5s Gil is 41 years old.. a lot of the stuff he's wrong about he has no business being wrong about. He act like he was born in 98 or sumn lmao
@DeathWing572
@DeathWing572 10 месяцев назад
​@@JBHarris21he act like he is gen z fan
@Beetlechoose-1
@Beetlechoose-1 10 месяцев назад
​@@JBHarris21, Gilbert arenas is just pretending to be ignorant.
@tafaraonerom
@tafaraonerom 9 месяцев назад
Shouldn´t, Gil is a hack that thinks he knows his stuff, he doesn´t.
@滋榎本
@滋榎本 11 месяцев назад
It is very unfortunate that the Wizards were unable to make it to the playoffs despite Michael Jordan's efforts.
@munoken
@munoken 11 месяцев назад
It all went to hell after he got hurt.
@mirospajic9929
@mirospajic9929 11 месяцев назад
MJ played for Wizards not for Lakers or Celtics at the end of career! Bron played only for superteams after Clevland! MJ with Lakers after 98 Bulls breakup!? At least 4 rings with Shaq & Kobe!
@twilitezn
@twilitezn 11 месяцев назад
@@munoken what kills me is how ppl refuse to acknowledge is that your body responds differently depending on the circumstances. Lebron's been playing non-stop for the last 20 years.....If he had taken off 3 years like MJ did, from 35 to 37, and then returned to the NBA, there's no WAY that he'd be performing at the same level....without outside "help"....Hell, when MJ took off almost 2 years in his Prime and returned there was a noticeable dip - even after he got in Basketball shape...if you take "rest" in your mid-30s and after, your body will NOT snap back automatically....and when it does recover...it is not the same....muscularly AND cardio wise.
@Dinojong
@Dinojong 11 месяцев назад
@@twiliteznYou say he “took 2 years off” was he not playing professional baseball?
@twilitezn
@twilitezn 11 месяцев назад
@@Dinojong he played BBall for 1 3/4 seasons...he only played 17 games in the regular season when he returned... ...playing baseball does NOT prepare you for playing basketball...different muscles are being used, and there's practically NO cardio...and we're not even talking about the differences in timing yet...
@al.trzy_blu.e
@al.trzy_blu.e 11 месяцев назад
He was straight schooling all those flashy young dudes with fundamentals…
@LilRick96
@LilRick96 11 месяцев назад
Wasn't Jordan the biggest pick up when joining the Wizards? Didn't they go from bottom of the league in defense in the previous year to as high as #3 in defense when he was playing before his injury?? Jordan was handling business on defense
@shamwaw336
@shamwaw336 11 месяцев назад
Yup, MJ got injured right before the All Star break where they were 26-21 then went 11-24. Like you said, their biggest dip was in their defense based on their splits despite a surprise up tick in shooting efficiency (which could just be attributed to shooting less 3 point duds). Interesting enough, the next year splits saw a similar trend where they performed better pre-All Stars and dropped off after.
@sub4subbalkan653
@sub4subbalkan653 11 месяцев назад
​@@shamwaw336so they were on course to make the playoffs before the injury. And that wasnt exactly a good team mind you. Compare that to Lakers last season who missed the playoffs while James was playing. Yes AD was out a lot, but he had a guy who just came off a 22-11-11 season and played nearly every games. I dont think they have excuses for James, if he played so great, that they dont even make the play in game. The reason is obvious, "cheating" the game on the deffensive end for his offensive numbers. The literal opposite of a Bill Russell, who will score 2 points if it means a W, while James would prefer a 30pt triple double in a L
@chitownkidd33
@chitownkidd33 11 месяцев назад
His own damn teammate hurt him too. Wizards were just starting to put it together.
@king-ghost1027
@king-ghost1027 10 месяцев назад
💯
@hfrnglobalmediagroup2850
@hfrnglobalmediagroup2850 10 месяцев назад
Jordan joined the Wizards because they were a new team and he was promised an Ownership interest in the team. He was there just to promote the team. I don't know why this FACT is never brought up. The owner double crossed him. Later he would get an ownership interest in the Hornets. He was not there to try to win a championship. He never would have played if it were not for that.
@RedPhill24
@RedPhill24 11 месяцев назад
The guys on roids! Of course he still looks to be in shape.
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 3 месяца назад
Curry on roids too?
@w.w.1348
@w.w.1348 11 месяцев назад
Context... Teams flew commercial to games, teams practiced on the off days, no load management, flagrant fouls today were called as common fouls, if at all. Jordan also came into the Wizards off of having his ribs broken in the off-season. As he got into basketball shape he was averaging 27ppg in the twenty games prior to the knee injury. In the ten games before the injury he averaged 29ppg. The Wizards ran off a 15-1 win streak. So playing after the injury dropped his stats down to 25ppg for the session. We'll never know how good he would have been due to injury.
@HeathOverledger
@HeathOverledger 11 месяцев назад
7:37 the great irony of this sequence is that while Agent Zero Sense is ranting about nonsense, this guy to his right is literally on his laptop where he could use three clicks to see Kareem was still very productive by 38 and still with back to back rings to be won! 🤣🤣. Maybe this is why more hoppers will remember/know more about a Robert Horry than him because the objective is to *win*
@dxjx23
@dxjx23 11 месяцев назад
It's amazing that they continue to take shots at Jordan, his game. I'm surprised they don't go another direction because his time while playing in comparison to other players is unmatched. Plus, who in the NBA now is doing what Jordan or even Kobe did for the NBA. Absolutely no one, no one stands out, heck even Vince Carter stood out amongst great players. These players today can't even do that in a league that is soft. So what does that tell you? These arguments are foolish and absolutely ridiculous. Here's a nail in the coffin. Put Jordan in any era, and he dominates.
@MarkBaugh-s9x
@MarkBaugh-s9x 11 месяцев назад
WELL SAID. A FI REAL, A SOME LIKKLE RASS WIMP DEM. FGKKNG BABY WIPES.
@clearbluerealty9994
@clearbluerealty9994 11 месяцев назад
You are 100% correct
@thenofilterchannel8247
@thenofilterchannel8247 11 месяцев назад
Hammer meet nail
@charlesclark5415
@charlesclark5415 11 месяцев назад
You are delusional, no one takes shot at Mj as a matter of fact he's only mentioned to try and discredit what Lbj and others great do so just stop!!!
@ryanbrown938
@ryanbrown938 11 месяцев назад
That wasn't a nail.... That was a fukkin RAIL ROAD SPIKE!!! I been saying FOR YEARS that you CANNOT compare ANYONE in the league today to MJ... NONE of them come close except Kobe. Another person made a HUGE point in this " GOAT race " between MJ and LBJ, bruh said sump'n along the lines of: If you are counting chips on who is GOAT between these two, here's the stat NOBODY talks about: Both went to the finals 6 times... Bron lost twice Jordan lost NONE....
@LeonYuL
@LeonYuL 11 месяцев назад
MJ's competitiveness wouldn't allow him to take designer drugs and he'd play any minute if he could still move. On the other hand, Bron spends millions on PEDs and would force rest if he doesn't need to
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 11 месяцев назад
XD Jordan just happened to rapidly go bald in his mid 20s, after he gained about 30 pounds of muscle, in 1.5 seasons, while having a shit diet, smoking cigars, being an insomniac and running all those miles playing basketball. Also playing all 82 games through any injury. He also played in the 80s and 90s which was the peak of PED use. There's more that suggests he did PEDs that not. Also theres more to peds that gaining muscle. There peds for stamina, recovery, etc. I'm sure it was his mentality lmao. Even his chin changed and grew more facial hair. Thats what you call intensity mentality
@kevinjohnson3521
@kevinjohnson3521 11 месяцев назад
@@andrewcook1246I think you are grabbing for straws… Lebron is a PED freak!
@alikbey
@alikbey 11 месяцев назад
Mjs dad,brother and kids are bald. We don't know lebrons dad🤭 Anyway he hired the BEST trainer, just use that excuse😂
@iamEricHall
@iamEricHall 11 месяцев назад
MJ also was against getting pain killing injections while playing.
@miguelmojica5665
@miguelmojica5665 11 месяцев назад
​@andrewcook1246 jordan started going bald in his 3rd or 4th year in nba..the game is much softer than before so that alone gonna prolong career
@Ronaldothegoat0728
@Ronaldothegoat0728 11 месяцев назад
Jordan didn’t join the Wizards to compete for a championship unlike LeBron and the Lakers. Also, we know LeBron is on PEDs why is it surprising he’s still playing at a high level 😂
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 11 месяцев назад
Jordan too. Gained 30 pounds of muscle in 1.5 years, with a bad diet, smoking cigars, playing 82 games, running tons of cardio, bad sleep schedule, etc. This was also in the 80s/90s just before steroid use was blown up. Also balding like a mofo
@eazyduzit-tr3nx
@eazyduzit-tr3nx 11 месяцев назад
Klutch media started that dumb narrative too, and of course LBJ groupies ran with it. They make it seem like MJ went to the Wizards to compete for a championship and had HOF/all-NBA talent around him so they trash him for losing so we can excuse LBJ from losing. When he actually lost as title favorites/contenders, unlike MJ lol.
@gabrielalele8603
@gabrielalele8603 11 месяцев назад
​@andrewcook1246 : There is still no evidence that Jordan used PEDS🤷🏿‍♂️. Jordan & Kobe both trained harder than most NBA players in History including Lebron.
@TheKitKatThe
@TheKitKatThe 11 месяцев назад
@@gabrielalele8603 ok and? PEDs are performance ENHANCING drugs. you still have to perform to reap the benefits. he was clearly on them.
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 11 месяцев назад
@@gabrielalele8603 everyone was juicing hard. Just not your heroes lol
@munoken
@munoken 11 месяцев назад
Uh leClown is not running like he's 20 he's taking plays off and looks tired trailing behind. MJ was playing defense and was hurt there's a big difference and MJ actually has real skill, let alone just have a big body ramming through people and not getting called for an offensive foul and racking up turnovers like bron is. Smh
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 11 месяцев назад
Mj was a cone on Washington Kobe gave him 40 at half
@cook2026
@cook2026 11 месяцев назад
@@boonebeasley9622 bron got dunked on by a rookie, then around 3 to 4 years after got exposed by a rookie while bron giving excuses
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 11 месяцев назад
@@cook2026 wtf are u taking about
@munoken
@munoken 11 месяцев назад
@@boonebeasley9622 that's what you dumb kids keep saying and it's not true Jordan was not guarding him the whole time when Jordan did get on him he slowed Kobe down. Kobe was being guarded by other players if you actually watch the game . Stop talking nonsense and repeating BS
@cook2026
@cook2026 11 месяцев назад
@@boonebeasley9622 it's okay if you forgot. ben mathurin and jayson tatum.
@DirtyFolks
@DirtyFolks 11 месяцев назад
I just saw Gilbert's BS take. Everything Gil says about MJ is a lie. 😒 He also said that MJ wasn't criticized for not winning the first 6 years, when I remember the media saying MJ couldn't win without a big man and compared him to Mitch Richmond.
@mirospajic9929
@mirospajic9929 11 месяцев назад
Gil is boring! MJ would score 55 points on him every night !
@sub4subbalkan653
@sub4subbalkan653 11 месяцев назад
​@@mirospajic9929Arenas talks so much nonsense for someone who has an opinion about everything.
@tracymiller1713
@tracymiller1713 11 месяцев назад
Everything Gilbert Arenas EVER says about Jordan is a lie!
@king-ghost1027
@king-ghost1027 10 месяцев назад
All facts 💯
@christophermoffett7517
@christophermoffett7517 10 месяцев назад
Yeah don't listen to arenas he still on that cocaine I think
@MACSX7
@MACSX7 11 месяцев назад
Lebron is not running like he was when he was younger
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 11 месяцев назад
Way slower now. Its just that when you're superhuman, being slower than yourself is still being faster than 90% of the league. What a specimen.
@PrinceHbk08
@PrinceHbk08 11 месяцев назад
Tf u expect? Lol
@MACSX7
@MACSX7 11 месяцев назад
@@PrinceHbk08 from who?
@MACSX7
@MACSX7 11 месяцев назад
@@andrewcook1246 bro is a specimen now!
@justinswinehart5361
@justinswinehart5361 11 месяцев назад
Kareem at 38 was still elite. Wasn't his prime, but was still elite.
@justinstormo7984
@justinstormo7984 11 месяцев назад
Yeah Gilbert really put his foot in his mouth bringing up Kareem.
@justinswinehart5361
@justinswinehart5361 11 месяцев назад
@@justinstormo7984 yeah, he only won the championship and the Finals MVP at 38. What trash?
@JC-td1bt
@JC-td1bt 11 месяцев назад
@@justinswinehart5361😭I’m deceased
@Defender78
@Defender78 11 месяцев назад
Jordan also played As a small forward for those 2 years, according to basketball reference, I didn't play shooting guard I guess but either way he played 82 games and he was durable
@justinswinehart5361
@justinswinehart5361 11 месяцев назад
@@Defender78 you're absolutely right.
@jordanjenkins1671
@jordanjenkins1671 11 месяцев назад
Love your final point. Some people must not believe in holding themselves or their favorite players accountable, because they talk a big game of "LeBron's so amazing at age 38 and our Lakers are going to the Finals this year" then when they fail they say "What do you expect, he's old and [insert teammate names] didn't help enough!" They're not real fans. Real fans hold their teams accountable to win and call out problems when they see them.
@strifefresh3998
@strifefresh3998 11 месяцев назад
FACTS
@t.n.m.samuel2984
@t.n.m.samuel2984 10 месяцев назад
But they’re not fans of a team but a player
@jaggernaut100980
@jaggernaut100980 11 месяцев назад
MJ's basketball era WAS SO DIFFERENT COMPARED to LbJ era. MJ went in to NBA where basketball is so physical and some other NBA stars was still existing those times- 80s- 90s.. but despite of the physicality kind of games that time, he was still able to produce positive ends of a ball game- even there was games with superb crucial situations. Flagrant and acting rules was not that available yet compared to LbJ's era. 2nd, MJ didn't had a situation of having a new team. The Bulls' player- regardless of player (newly draft picked or traded players) who comes where the management (with the Coach) gets, MJ played with them and teaches them. LbJ already had 3 teams to be with. Obviously he plays for the money offer and who he wants to play with. MJ gave a NEW DEFINITION of REALITY how basketball SHOULD BE PLAYED. That's the Main FACT.
@jrs1145
@jrs1145 11 месяцев назад
JORDAN is the 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐. And no one can do anything about it!! 🤣🤣🤣
@donnydutcher3310
@donnydutcher3310 11 месяцев назад
Bro is cracking himself up
@mirospajic9929
@mirospajic9929 11 месяцев назад
Le Bronze will play 25 seasons!😂
@TrabullRDC
@TrabullRDC 11 месяцев назад
Someone needs to send this to Gilbert. Great video as always.
@mikeprolas2027
@mikeprolas2027 11 месяцев назад
I just saw the worst take ive heard from gilbert arenas the fact that the 90s are overrated
@poprobert1991
@poprobert1991 11 месяцев назад
Where was Kareem at 38? He was winning finals mvp. Agent zero rings should stfu
@HeathOverledger
@HeathOverledger 11 месяцев назад
Back to back rings at that 😆😆😆
@MarcusLBoston
@MarcusLBoston 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate your fact checking. People can say anything these days, but real context is everything.
@trumpjr5179
@trumpjr5179 11 месяцев назад
That's the difference right there, he was injured and still played, now they take days off for rest.
@michaelsilberg9059
@michaelsilberg9059 11 месяцев назад
This analysis does not consider the extreme officiating bias LeBron has received. It's just at a completely different level from what MJ experienced.
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 11 месяцев назад
Mj got calls too the difference is MJ earned his status while lebrons entire career has been manufactured since the league wanted the next jordan so bad💯🤷🏿‍♂️
@festusaniemeka3350
@festusaniemeka3350 11 месяцев назад
@@Dipset415lebron career has been manufactured bro hate got u talkin like this
@cynga6067
@cynga6067 11 месяцев назад
Imagine if a 38, 40 year old MJ had another 1 or 2 all star players like LBJ have always been having? 🎉
@cynga6067
@cynga6067 11 месяцев назад
@ShowtimeBBallOnTop no, you are wrong. Not always a second all star player in a team. The Wizards had no other all star players apart from MJ. You want more examples?
@tchellovalente2373
@tchellovalente2373 10 месяцев назад
Imagine Lebron having pippen as a second option earning a vet min for half his career . Smh.
@cynga6067
@cynga6067 10 месяцев назад
@@tchellovalente2373 MJ made Pip with his leadership which LBJ has none I'm sorry. LBJ needed to learn from DWade on how to lead a team to win. Without super teams, LBJ ain't cracking the top 10 all time
@javon1134
@javon1134 10 месяцев назад
Jordan wasnt competing against multiple all star teams like lebron so stackhouse shouldve been enough
@javon1134
@javon1134 10 месяцев назад
Mj did not make pip. The triangle allowed pip to flourish. Mj wanted to keep doug. He should be thanking Krause for what he saw for the Team he constructed.
@elijahmcelroy
@elijahmcelroy 11 месяцев назад
The meatglazing is so crazy. Why don’t we compare Lebron to Timmy??
@PhillipCummingsUSA
@PhillipCummingsUSA 11 месяцев назад
Bronsexuals literally play it both ways. He's top ten player until he loses and then he's old.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 11 месяцев назад
Arenas knows so little about the game & league that he played in. Yes, there are more scoring guards in today's league, but that's also because it's easier for guards to score today than in past. Also, Jordan played a lot of Forward in his Wizards days. He was also still effective defensively despite not making an All-Defense team. The Wizards were better defensively with him on the court than without & he occasionally took on the opposing team's best scorer in certain spots (Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, etc).
@NoSheepMentality
@NoSheepMentality 11 месяцев назад
Gilbert fits in with today’s kids because they both think they’re smarter than they actually are.
@libfit9068
@libfit9068 11 месяцев назад
How can Gilbert say LeBron can still play and run like hes 20, but then say we shouldnt expect anything from him cause hes 38? Like no, if you gonna imply he can play just as good as he can when he was young, then imma still have the same expectations from him. If hypothetically Jordan at 40 was still JORDAN and still played just as good as prime Jordan that we knew, i'd still have the same Jordan expectations from him.
@jarlbalgruuf7701
@jarlbalgruuf7701 11 месяцев назад
When lebron succeeds: “OMG guys he’s doing this at 38, he’s the Goat” When lebron fails:”OMG what more do you expect from him? He’s 38 yes old”
@rodneynrivers
@rodneynrivers 11 месяцев назад
but the 1 thing people dont think about wit mj and bron at that age. is mj sat out for a couple years. not saying he wasnt in shape, but its a big diff between running year after year. than sitting down for a couple years and trying to get back in basketball shape
@coroxtheduck6202
@coroxtheduck6202 11 месяцев назад
You can defend Jordan and his efforts in his last 2 seasons, you can defend Kareem at 38 having a great year of success. Just dont forget that Lebron at 38 played 21 years of the NBA. Those guys at that age played 13 seasons and 18 respectively, with the Playoffs included Lebron at this stage played way more. Yes technology is better, but this guy doesnt have the same milage as them
@davidhowell488
@davidhowell488 11 месяцев назад
HAD L.B.J won seven or so championships he would have called it quits long ago
@mikecarroll9110
@mikecarroll9110 10 месяцев назад
when people compare Jordan to LeBron at 38 years old, they forget that MICHAEL’s early playing years in the 80s and 90s / the contact of the game was brutal. That’s why his body did not hold up as well. as time goes on, we will see players last a lot longer because the contact of the game is a lot less 38 years old is impressive to still be playing but I have a feeling it won’t be that impressive in the next 20 years.
@kennethpolvent2744
@kennethpolvent2744 11 месяцев назад
Arenas definitely has personal issues with MJ. The game is different and has been since LBJ entered the league. This argument needs to stop. MJ adjusted his game as he got hurt older which hurt his super athleticism. Jordan scored 37ppg when teams were scoring 85pts.
@victoralexander3767
@victoralexander3767 11 месяцев назад
All I know is I've seen only two RU-vidrs credit MJ for his efforts in turning the Wizards around defensively. Everyone else is just ignorant about it but let Lebron come to a team that was a bottom 3 team in the league defensively and turn them to a top 5-10 defense he would be considered an all defensive player. It's just like his first year with LA and how they were in 4th place by Christmas but ended up not making the playoffs because he missed 12 games from a "groin injury" Something he didn't need surgery on. 🙄I wish Jordan would've been able to come back to a team and recruit GP and KG. That would've been another 3peat
@anthonymendoza6795
@anthonymendoza6795 11 месяцев назад
People don't take into consideration that when MJ came out of retirement w/Wizards, he had been sitting for 2 years. So he was not in the same conditioning had he remained in the NBA instead of retiring.
@TIGMT0824
@TIGMT0824 10 месяцев назад
Exactly bro, Lebron never retired and came back. If you take 3 years off at anything and come back, it’s going to take stone to get back where you once were.
@meadbert
@meadbert 11 месяцев назад
If you compare Jordan's 03 stats to his 98 stats you will see he averaged more rebounds and more assists while shooting a higher percentage from 3 and the foul line. He lead the 03 Wizards in steals + assists which is an indication he was their best defensive player. He did shoot less than in 98 because he was the #2 option behind Stackhouse, but he actually had a much better season than Stackhouse. The year before Jordan was a bit rusty and did not have a great year, but his last year with the Wizards he was good.
@venomsymbiote7555
@venomsymbiote7555 11 месяцев назад
Jordan was the number one option in 98 ahead of Pippen😏
@hfrnglobalmediagroup2850
@hfrnglobalmediagroup2850 10 месяцев назад
Jordan joined the Wizards because they were a new team and he was promised an Ownership interest in the team. He was there just to promote the team. I don't know why this FACT is never brought up. The owner double crossed him. Later he would get an ownership interest in the Hornets. He was not there to try to win a championship. He never would have played if it were not for that.
@MrWARBUCKS24
@MrWARBUCKS24 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@hfrnglobalmediagroup2850The Wizards weren’t a new team they changed their name from the Bullets to the Wizards in 97
@d.columbia9603
@d.columbia9603 11 месяцев назад
Gilbert loves attention more than logic and reason. That sums it up
@RichCinema
@RichCinema 10 месяцев назад
Real truth for the MJ haters... He played most of his NBA career a drunk gambler. Imagine if he had Lebrons nutritionist. Man abused his physical ability and still put up numbers.
@cynga6067
@cynga6067 11 месяцев назад
Well said, especially towards the end of the video. Your videos are always very informative, thank you for all the hard work behind the scenes.
@mrbattle2013
@mrbattle2013 11 месяцев назад
he was 25 5 5 before the injury. that was in a more defensive era.
@donshults7772
@donshults7772 11 месяцев назад
Lebron hasn't run "like he's 20" for about 10 years
@krwnsy
@krwnsy 10 месяцев назад
Gil more famous today for his hot takes than his entire career as a player.
@edgonzalez186
@edgonzalez186 10 месяцев назад
I loved those two years he was back; he still was better than 90% of the league. For me, it was a gift of having to witness him once again... After so many years kind of hating the excellence of him.
@exlapalopez
@exlapalopez 11 месяцев назад
GILBERT WHO?
@mikelowrey__
@mikelowrey__ 11 месяцев назад
Exactly! Gilbert “2 guns” arenas
@HailKingCeezer
@HailKingCeezer 11 месяцев назад
Dominates on the break and at the basket, im saying he's a modern, leaner perimeter oriented Karl Malone, trading mid range post/face ups for the occasional 3s. Karl Malone could get near 5apg playing as a true Power Forward, get him leaner and working on his handle and let the offense run through him and now he's easily getting 3more apg. He's still rebounding, still dominating the fast break(best floor running PF ever, Bron best floor running SF). Hes still strong and bullying his way downhill at the basket-only now there's rarely true HOF C's camping the paint and he's being defended by Small Forwards instead of true Power Forwards most of the time. No, he wouldn't be as fast or have the verticality, that still separates the 2, but neither is lebron anywhere near as strong as Malone and Malone would rebound at a higher rate and had the softer shooting touch-reliable from FT and both had their come up small in crunch time genes. Both flop. Both stat machines. Both longevity freaks of nature. Karl was putting up better numbers than Jordan at 39 also. Became 2nd all time in points. No one cared. Make the league offense oriented where defenders can't defend-up the pace and possessions and now 39 year old Karl Malone likely putting up better numbers than his MVP seasons just like LeBron. No one actually believes LeBron is better now than his prime right? Bc thats what the numbers say. That's how badly unbalanced the NBA currently is to benefit offense vs when Malone and Jordan were old in the slowest era ever. LeBron in the 90s is a mix of Karl Malone and you could say Scottie or Clyde or Hill, but his aesthetic probably closer to Clyde. That's a HOFer and one of the greatest ever still, but it would still be Jordan on the mountain top.
@Dapper_Dean
@Dapper_Dean 10 месяцев назад
Gilbert 'Never Filled Any' Arenas and the other Bron bootlickers are just mad, because all those players he mentioned(except for Larry Bird). Has more rings than Bron, as leaders of their respected teams. And they did it in less time.
@vudujl83
@vudujl83 11 месяцев назад
there's always going to be myths about him, whether they're true or not...just talking about him in this day and age gets these so-called analysts notoriety
@mstells
@mstells 10 месяцев назад
They never bring up the fact that Bron has benefited from modern medicine & the ability to spend a million a yr on his body alone.. Kareem, Bird, Magic, MJ.. none of them had this luxury.. so Bron @38 is 1000% gonna look different than those guys @38.
@howardchen3456
@howardchen3456 11 месяцев назад
Gilbert is an example of talking off the cuff without doing any research on stats or facts. What a clown😂
@alikbey
@alikbey 11 месяцев назад
Basketball was so much better back then as far as the style of it,and the funny thing is that jordan way of playing on the wizards would probably be more deadly in today's game than his 80s style of play in today's game.
@ucanhitme
@ucanhitme 10 месяцев назад
Injury is HOW aging manifests itself. A player can't do what he might have used to do. Therefore their averages go down. The injury aren't context they ARE the story.
@kingchino4990
@kingchino4990 10 месяцев назад
If Ron Artest never broke his ribs that summer, he wouldn’t came in overweight and trying to catch up, he was killing them in the summer
@TheTalontedOne
@TheTalontedOne 11 месяцев назад
Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Gary Payton and Jason Kidd also won a title at 37 too.
@dr.lesbarrett921
@dr.lesbarrett921 10 месяцев назад
Scoring in this soft era can't be compared to previous eras😂
@scottmoreau3584
@scottmoreau3584 10 месяцев назад
Comparing a guys body at 38 on steroids to a guy that’s natural is the dumbest argument ever
@aquartermil
@aquartermil 11 месяцев назад
Kareem won a ring at 38 Gil 😭😭bro they be doing backflips on this man shit ! And bron my fav player all time like this is a sad the way they go out
@kjata77
@kjata77 11 месяцев назад
MJ could've still played in the NBA @50 yo. He would have been upper mid-tier, not GOAT level but still a starting SG on most teams if you think about it. At 50, he would have had 'forced rest' (Popovich did the game a great dis-service with implementing that all those years ago, IMO), the lack of hockey style defense from opponents nowadays (Wilt & MJ forced the League to change the rules because of them, they were that good, remember), more roster rotation in-game, and the implementation of the review system & the newer flagrant foul rules... he would still be putting up starting SG numbers, making the franchise $$$, mentoring younger players (as he did with the Wizards), and bringing the MATURITY level up in the league post-50. I didn't say post-55 but he could've played another 3 or 4 years, just to prove that he could at that level. That would've ended ALL GOAT talk all-time BUT owner's of professional sport teams/clubs cannot be professional players also. "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know.".
@olzt100
@olzt100 10 месяцев назад
Whoa! Whoa! The fact is Washington never put Jordan on the floor to relive his glory days. He was put on the team to mentor the likes of Arenas and Stackhouse and teach them to be winners in the league. To pin point it correctly, he should have been the Wizards versions of Udonis Haslem, but averaging 15 to 16 points a game. The point was learning to win, not maintaining a scoring standard. And Jordan's UNC years, Bulls years and Wizards years reveal that a team with him cannot win titles or playoff series without the right players sacrificing parts of their offensive game to make his offensive game look better. Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, Grant and Harper all played harder on defense and sacrificed their offensive skills to accommodate his 24+ fg attempts a game. Had Washington had the same type of players willing to sacrifice for Michael like Bulls players did, they might have made it to the playoffs. Scottie Pippen's real beef with Jordan is that all he sacrificed in scoring, effort, pay and ego to keep the Bulls winning the narrative stills remains Jordan won six titles and the rest of the Bulls just watched and passed Michael the ball.
@JuggaloSupreme
@JuggaloSupreme 11 месяцев назад
NO ONE known for FLOPPING, quitting, & standing around at defense could EVER be in the same SENTENCE as MJ😂. Play 82 games LeQuit...
@therealpeopleofvancouver
@therealpeopleofvancouver 8 месяцев назад
Arenas was charged with carrying a pistol without a license into the locker room. Arenas admitted that he ran about 60 red lights in 4 months and got away with it by keeping his dealer plates on his vehicle. On June 27, 2013, Arenas was arrested by the LAPD for the possession of illegal fireworks. Gilbert Arenas skirts the rules, hasn't won a championship and basically has a podcast because he scored a lot.
@luisguardado5357
@luisguardado5357 10 месяцев назад
That underrated remark should have ben proof on the floor. Anybody can build castles out of thin hot air
@christopherbrown9279
@christopherbrown9279 10 месяцев назад
Mj and kobe are in a league on by themselves. LeBron should never be mentioned with them. LBJ isn't a killer like them. He's mister nice guy and doesn't want to take the last shot or guard the best player on opposing teams 😂
@Shawn-jf2us
@Shawn-jf2us 7 месяцев назад
I know everyone just saw Michael put the Heats LaPhonso Ellis on his Backside!!! 😂
@myxlplxthegreat7979
@myxlplxthegreat7979 10 месяцев назад
Gilbert is nuts, he’s team Jordan some days & the other days he’s new era.
@louisbrown4620
@louisbrown4620 10 месяцев назад
I don’t know why anyone listens to a genius that brought a loaded gun to the locker room.
@ssherrierable
@ssherrierable 10 месяцев назад
If you were alive to watch those 90s bulls teams it was always an event. You knew you were gonna see mj on tv and he was gonna do some amazing things than you wake up for school throw your Jordan’s on with your bulls pullover starter jacket with the matching starter hat and you were lit…
@jsongz201
@jsongz201 10 месяцев назад
One thing ya forget… Jordan retired first at 31 after his father died… Then retired at 36…. Then retired in his 40s in the wizards… Imagine if he never retired 😅
@TIGMT0824
@TIGMT0824 10 месяцев назад
It’s wild to see how much Gil roots for LeBron, even though he punked Gil in the playoffs at the free throw line, Gil missed both free throws and they lost the game
@heirrose1606
@heirrose1606 11 месяцев назад
LeBron career below 40% on shots past 3ft should be an automatic disqualification for GOAT.
@maxsaci552
@maxsaci552 10 месяцев назад
The one's Gilbert talk about at 38 probably had multiple injuries because the game was more fisical and the staff didn't have the knowledge that they have today about diet, traning and recovery.
@thebipolarpsychonaut4984
@thebipolarpsychonaut4984 10 месяцев назад
I still have my original Wizard's Jordan jersey. In the conversation about the GOAT, the only real question is who is second.
@redtesta
@redtesta 10 месяцев назад
taking a break and leaving for years then coming back at 38 vs not leaving the nba, not needing to get into shape and in softer league. Cant compare it. big difference.
@boycottactivision
@boycottactivision 10 месяцев назад
This is the biggest NBA What if video on the internet
@Rumble225-qe7fy
@Rumble225-qe7fy 11 месяцев назад
I hate how here guys act like they can’t see nothing. Lebron has missed 90 games total in last 3 seasons. He walks on defence plays when he wants to. If Jordan had that luxury he’d play well into his 40s easy.
@lonesoljazangetsu1157
@lonesoljazangetsu1157 11 месяцев назад
Gilbert takes everything out of context
@MonsterHunterPV
@MonsterHunterPV 10 месяцев назад
Came back old after hella time off, limited role, tryna develop younger talent and give back, all in a tougher era of ball....still avg 24.6 with all around stats. Just another reason why hes the Goat.
@thebipolarpsychonaut4984
@thebipolarpsychonaut4984 10 месяцев назад
There's a reason Bron is still "running like he is 20" and it's not his diet.
@ItIsYouAreNotYour
@ItIsYouAreNotYour 11 месяцев назад
That must be so demoralizing being the GOAT and not being able to get 30 anymore. I wonder when most players will finally admit they either need to retire or sit on the bench. It kind of reminds me of the lack of awareness that Melo had thinking he's still a star.
@socialillz
@socialillz 10 месяцев назад
Imagine if Jordan was on Bron’s steroid regime. He’d still be playing today 😂😂😂
@mirvgeorge3290
@mirvgeorge3290 10 месяцев назад
That’s Gilbert always disrespecting Jordan it’s a joke
@cornbreadpassion11
@cornbreadpassion11 10 месяцев назад
Jordan's time requires "tons of context" yet Lebron aint allowed to have context.
@kungfutech853
@kungfutech853 11 месяцев назад
Gilbert is so annoying with his silly takes.
@smokesreefer9417
@smokesreefer9417 11 месяцев назад
LeChina lovers love to point out how much money he spends to keep his body in shape. play more games. be an Ironman. do what Kareem did at 38. Jordan and Kareem were a different type of player. a player we will never see again.
@jarlbalgruuf7701
@jarlbalgruuf7701 11 месяцев назад
And we all know a large part of that budget is probably going towards PEDs that shits not cheap
@ColumbusBully
@ColumbusBully 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for educating these youngsters. They believe everything in their era/time is better than it was and I would disagree.
@eastbee103
@eastbee103 11 месяцев назад
Lebron aint playin NO defense!!
@Says_me
@Says_me 11 месяцев назад
Bottom line… only Lebron stans and MJ haters diminish Jordan’s Wizard years. A honest basketball fan has appreciation for what he did at that age… coming back after 3 years off… playing in all 82 games his final season… putting up top 10 numbers before the knee injury… elevating a struggling team to playoff hopes. It wasn’t earth shaking, but good stuff for non-haters and jock-riders.
@padan808
@padan808 10 месяцев назад
While others were playing basketball Jordan was creating art!
@danabboldensr7965
@danabboldensr7965 9 месяцев назад
Arenas knows he couldn't hold Jordan's jock strap
@MasterEggroll
@MasterEggroll 8 месяцев назад
Lebron just stands around, plays no defense, garbage points and just scores against no defense.
@engelmann82
@engelmann82 11 месяцев назад
Why are we talking about Arenas in the first place? No time should be wasted on that 🤡
@zureai
@zureai 11 месяцев назад
Jordan at age 39, with one knee played 82 games…. Enough said Lebron from age 34-38 (excluding age 35 when he played 67 games) has played under 55 games a season.. in an era where defense is basically non existent
@kingsleyjackson8287
@kingsleyjackson8287 11 месяцев назад
He was the only all star & hof on his team
@luiscepeda2152
@luiscepeda2152 10 месяцев назад
It's so crazy how this ringless players be hating on MJ!😂😂
@Pseudog831
@Pseudog831 11 месяцев назад
Funniest comment of Arenas : "Think about it Lebron at 38 he is still running like he is 20 lololololol. The Fact is LeBron saves his energy abandoning his defense for open-court scoring. Comparing LeBron's stats abandoning defense for stat padding even in today`s high scoring league, to Jordan's stats in the early 00s, when the league was ultra low-scoring and unfavorable to offenses, is nonsense. The 01-02 season, when Jordan returned, was the season that the league introduced zone defense while leaving handchecking intact. Despite the introduction of a zone defense and the addition of a defensive 3 seconds rule, most swingmen's scoring stats plummeted and they never really adjusted. Eventually, in the 04-05 season, hand checking rule was tightened up and swingmen's scoring started to pick up. Plus from the 07 season onwards, the league added the gather-step rule, which further empowered the offense. Some have speculated that LeBron`s losing in the '07 Finals, when he looked like he couldn't do anything and lost to San Antonio Spurs, introduced the gather-step rule in response to make him better in penetration, but we don't know for sure. Since then, with the maximization of three-point tactics, the league has become even more scoring-oriented, and here we are.
@Pseudog831
@Pseudog831 11 месяцев назад
@ShowtimeBBallOnTop If you're not comfortable with the facts, that's because you are LBJ Fanboy.
@adamsanchez719
@adamsanchez719 10 месяцев назад
Also lets not forget that MJ almost played every single game every year and did not use this time management shit they use nowadays
@Matkovic99
@Matkovic99 11 месяцев назад
The AMAZING irony of them comparing LJ at 38 to someone who WON THE FINALS at 38 and was finals MVP. Like dang, that actually got my mad when he brought up Kareem
@levishelley2850
@levishelley2850 11 месяцев назад
I was shocked when he tried saying Kareem wasn’t good at 38. He just doesn’t know ig
@Big12Walt
@Big12Walt 10 месяцев назад
And this was before performance enhancement drugs in which these current players are on. They are juiced these days
@Lamarr801
@Lamarr801 11 месяцев назад
Gilbert didn’t say Kareen was ineffective he said that people didn’t expect nothing from him🤷🏿‍♂️
@maynardyambao8580
@maynardyambao8580 11 месяцев назад
the difference is the physicality that's why. defense are no jokes. narrative is being hype.
@lbrad2001
@lbrad2001 8 месяцев назад
Gilbert is getting paid a lot of money by Lebron to be his son's "trainer" so he has to say this shit.
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