@@danm6695I think I put more effort into every play in my rec team than he does in the major league 😂 damn right I’d tell someone how to play their position whether it was mine or not if they were jogging
I could almost defend it if the ball was moving faster and he was waiting to see how it played off the wall but he sort of has a history of this behavior @@CaptainInsano
@@Thatmanwebby real. he knew it was his fault and was just too stubborn to admit it. longoria had every right to be mad at him and upton knew it. he should have admitted it was his fault and longoria was right. he new he was in la la land in the outfield which you're never supposed to do
2:15 I have a hard time fully blaming Casey for this one. It sure looked like Crede initially came down with it after getting the glove up there, especially from Casey's perspective. Yes, he should have stuck with it, but I can understand being frustrated after making good contact and then thinking that the hit had been taken away. Live and learn.
I know. Upton was getting pissed despite knowing it was all his fault and that was all on him. Longoria had every right to be mad at him and Upton shouldn't have been saying something. He knows it was his fault.
There's a reason Longo has been able to stick in the league long past his productive days as a hitter have been over. And this is one of the main ones. The dude has to be amazing in the clubhouse to call it like he sees it with chumps like Upton. You get a lot of respect from everyone because not all players have the balls to do it.
Sean Casey not really fair. Dude always busted it, despite not being very fleet of foot. Thought the dude caught it and when he realized he didn’t he made it down the line as fast as he could. I promise you Jim didn’t bench The Mayor after that play.
No idea if he was justified in this Ken Giles deal or not, but as a manager Sandberg was a buffoon and so was Bob McClure. Look for the video of Chase Utley reading McClure the riot act on the mound when they left Jeff Francoeur, pitching multiple innings in mopup duty, in to throw 48 pitches because they couldn't contact the bullpen to get a reliever warmed up. I've never seen a baseball player excoriate a coach in public like that with the coach meekly taking it.
2:10 good on Gabe Kapler from bringing him down the tunnel to address the situation and not in the dugout in front of the cameras so he wouldn't show him up.
Sean casey should not be on this video. The dude thought the ball was caught from his perspective and also from his perspective the ball was hidden behind the third baseman when the ball was rolling to the outfielder. So that was unfortunate for him. He ran full effort after he realized the ball wasnt caught.
I agree. He could have easily say "Ah, fuck it" and given up on the play upon realizing that the left fielder had rifled the ball back in, but he didn't. Instead, as soon as he realized he'd been mistaken about the ball being caught he gave it the ole' 100% college (professional) try.
IIRC Littell was outrighted to the minors the next day. Season ended a month later with him still down in AAA, and he was a free agent that winter. He never pitched for us again. Officially, the move was already in the works. But unofficially...
Easily the best thing Kapler ever did as the manager of the Giants. No one liked Kapler here in the bay but you don’t do that your manager on the mound
Wasn't there a play where Javy Baez made no effort to return to first to avoid being doubled off on a fly-out by the batter? I think he lost count of the outs, thought there were two, and ran on contact without realizing there was only one out and he needed to tag up first. He got benched after that no-effort bonehead play.
@@h445 he’s a cancer. And yes, that reaction of his speaks volumes. It’s not indicative of a single incident. But please, go on making excuses for people. You’d be a manager who’d refuse to hold yourself accountable for a team in shambles for a decade that you “managed” for decades, because you’d absolve individual ego over team play as an m.o. There’s a reason why the Steelers under Noll, the Yankees under Steinbrenner, the Pats under Belichick/Craft, etc. did as well as they did, for as long as they did. They prided team over individual. The second a player exemplified ego, they were cut before they could cause an issue that would effect the team.
Yea I pitched from little league to highschool and at age 13 I played travel baseball for coaches that played either college or pro. Now I never made it to the pro or college level but I was taught well by those coaches. But you are taught to never show your emotions on the field especially if your angry. Because if you do that on the mound well then the other team has gotten to you and they will make your misery much worse
Even in pony league and high school pitchers knew better than to show attitude about getting pulled in lieu of a relief pitcher. I can't imagine getting all the way to the majors and acting like a baby like that.
I was pitching once in Colt league. As the coach crossed the baseline, he was motioning to me to toss him the ball. A week before, I read in the Sporting News that a manager was hot because a pitcher tossed him the ball, rather than hand it to him. “I’m not out there to play catch with him.” So I extended my arm completely, and waited until he got to the mound, and he took it out of my hand. I wasn’t out there to play catch with a 50 year old. 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I don’t really fault the guy that thought the SS caught it. He didn’t think “no point in hustling cause im gonna be out, anyway”. He thought he was ALREADY out. There’s a difference
That was just one example of why no teams have signed Bauer. He’s immature, pitches with one eye shut trying to show up opposing hitters, cuts his finger with a drone during the playoffs.
The bj Upton one still blows my mind. I don't care if its a blowout, you're mad at your team or teammates, or whatever it may be, you better make an effort if you're on the field. Or make it look like it at the very least. And if it is something like wanting to get traded or play someone else, every team is going to see that which isn't gonna help your chances.
As much as I hate no-hustle plays I do feel bad for the Casey (Tigers) play as he genuinely thought his hit was caught by the in fielder. No different than if you hit a line drive and see it gets caught, why would you keep running. I'll give him a pass on that.
Blue Jays manager to Josh Donaldson: Eh der bud, you may be able to get away with that in the states but up ere in Canada, you got to be polite to EVERYTHING. Even that lovely piece of lumber you just assaulted! Now go over der and apologize eh! Be cool, ‘ight?
quite frankly if you can't put yourself in another's shoes why don't you just shut up? it wasn't 'clear' to me that he was 'jogging,' perhaps he was being cautious because he didn't know which way the ball was going to caroom off the wall? oh, didn't think of that, did you? just want to form a lynch mob. it's not Longoria's job to say jack shit, if the manager has an issue that's his business and call to go talk to the player, not another team mate. if my co-worker thought i messed up and tried to give me shit about it, i'd go apeshit on them as well. they don't sign my paycheck, so mind your own fucking business.
depends. If your teammate isnt pulling their weight or putting little effort in, then getting mad at them is fair enough. Noone wants to be on a team with someone who doesnt try 100% of the time.
Hope Giles got hit with reality. He and Sandburg should be ashamed. Showing up a manager is bad enough. Manager showing up a player with each other. Im sorry that’s inexcusable behavior.
Supposed to be adults and professionals. I get pitchers get frustrated, and honestly, I think the whole "showing up your manager" bit is overhyped here. Everyone knows why he's coming out. To me, the pitcher leaving early is more "I know I didn't do my job as well as I need to, I am getting out of thecpicture so my team snd manager can focus on getting out of the mess." But I am not a pitcher or in the MLB. Maybe its just one of those unwritten rule things.
leaving early like that shows disrespect to the manager. while he’s walking to the mound if he’s gonna pull the pitcher often times they will signal to the bullpen to send in the relief pitcher
@@peterf.229 Yeah, I got that much from the broadcast guys. But why is it disrespectful? I honestly don't get it. I mean the entire stadium and all the people at home - well, those sober enough to still see - know why the manager is making the stroll. Its not to ask what snacks the errant pitcher wants waiting in the clubhouse after the game. Why the need for the bit of theater making the pitcher wait for him to get there and pretending he really wants to keep embarrassing himself, but the wise manager over-rules the protests and the pitcher finally and reluctantly departs. I have more rants about the topic, but I really want to focus and understand this point. I accept that is disrespectful. I just want to understand why. From where I sit, the pitcher leaving early is *more* respectful, indicating the pitcher accepts the manager's judgement that its time for him to be a spectator for the rest of the game even if his own feelings are otherwise.
@MGower4465 the manager might wanna give a reliever a few words of encouragement as he is being taken out so a player leaving the mound early basically tells the manager 'i don't wanna hear anything you have to say'
A lot of these guys have been babied their whole life due to their genetic gifting. I lived across from some college players while in college. Their mom would come and mow the grass for them
@@SSFJeff Ok. As I said its not a job I understand. Just putting myself in that position, knowing I am not getting my job done that day, I wouldn't be all that welcoming of "a few words" be it criticism or encouragement right then. Just as well I learned early by baseball career was as a watcher, not a doer. My temperament is clearly unsuited.
the problem is that some of these ballplayers make more money than the manager, and so don't think they have to listen. My own personal belief is that the manager should make $1 more than the highest paid player on the team.
I don't know who are worse, baseball players or announcers. This "showing up" garbage is so childish. The egos of baseball players are so fragile it makes me not want to watch the game at all.
A lot of this could be avoided (in the case of pitchers) if we didn't have to have this whole ridiculous charade of the manager coming out. Just call the new pitcher in, have him jog out to the mound, and start pitching. Not sure why we have to have this ceremonial changing of the guard. Especially now that there are like 10 pitching changes per game now. Wanna speed up the game? Keep the skippers in the dugout. There doesn't need to be a committee meeting every time a new guy comes into the game.
Upton was never going to reach the ball before it bounced back off the outfield walls which seem to have inconsistent bounce back into the field so was cautious not to be beaten by a random bounce.
I thought about that too, but at no point did he demonstrate any urgency in getting the ball back in, not only when chasing it down but in picking it up, firing it back in. Just a lazy play making the team look sloppy.
