Mobula6 HDZero - Review // Inside Outside & Close Proximity // Changes

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After spending a week with the Mobula6 HDZero come see what I experienced.
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@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

What are your impressions of this latest HDzero BNF? And what should we do with it next?😄 Available from Banggood - bit.ly/3I8mQ3n MakerFire - bit.ly/3ngYGd5 UnmannedTech - bit.ly/3xUFuXE ---- NewBeeDrone Batteries - bit.ly/3A4yLgp Tattu Batteries - amzn.to/3biBV5M Long nose usb cable - amzn.to/3Ot5CzR

@xfOL. Год назад

swap it to 75mm frame! ~24g for 19kv with 2-blades - too much weight imo

@4li60 Год назад

We need better batteries, seriously 😒 The guys at Darpa, Boston Dynamics, SpaceX and Tesla must really put minds together for better batteries 😭

@mootine2007 Год назад

I like seeing the step by step process. So triblades first then 75mm frame. 😃

@curazyheart7143 Год назад

Will it freestyle decent with 1002 motors in a 75mm?

@rikofpv Год назад

try it on a windy field

@seewell8168 Год назад

I’d be interested in the 75mm conversion and then seeing how the 0802 vs 1002 motors stack up carrying an ever so slightly overweight quad.

@JohnCuppi Год назад

75mm HDzero is exactly what I am waiting to do to my mobula7 1S ELRS model. 75mm format!

@amin0_acid310 Год назад

Late to the game here, for anyone recently getting goggles and looking at this, Just picked one up last week(HDZ Goggles arrived a few weeks ago). Fun little quad. Been bashing the crap out of it in my condo, BlueJay 96kHz, tri-blade props and changed out the connector to BT2. My new go to for some fun flying. The changes get me 3-3.5 min, but I'm not as good as NB so there's that. Might convert to 75mm when I run out of 65mm spares lol. Thanks for the video (Despite me being almost a year late). Some good info in here to help this little guy perform better. Cheers!

@joecrush1118 Год назад

Been watching for years, your backyard is coming along great, Always love your stuff.

@nodidog Год назад

Thanks Nick, great video. I've been waiting for this one...!

@baggszilla Год назад

Thanks Nick! I'm so excited for this1S HDZero board and BNF! Cheers.

@GS-ef1ff Год назад

Nick, Thanks so much! Cant wait to see this on 75mm!

@MCsCreations Год назад

Fantastic little quad, Nick! 😃 Awesome flying and review!!! As both options are coming, 3 bladed props first I would say. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@TailSpinRCSpain Год назад

Great proximity ripping Nick ! Video quality is superb on HDZero.

@ChrisParayno Год назад

The clarity of the hdzero is wanting me convert more and more. Great flying and I love that you integrate the close proximity stuff. It's a good idea to practice and inspires me to do better! Thanks.

@SunspotFPV Год назад

I had the opportunity to fly a 65mm hdzero whoop at Multi GP International Open a couple weeks ago. It has kind of ruined analog for me. I am just waiting for the hdzero goggles.

@RyanQuellet Год назад

@@SunspotFPV haha, sorry about that 🙂

@SunspotFPV Год назад

@@RyanQuellet LOL! You are a monster! Thanks again.

@ChrisParayno Год назад

@@SunspotFPV that good huh? thanks for the input.

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

Best thing I did with mine was to put it in a 75mm frame with 450mah battery. More than doubled flight times

@CalleyyyC Год назад

Thanks Nick, and appreciate the pid tune snapshot a lot! I’m going to try out the tri blades when I get mine - please share any pid changes if any when you try triblades

@BornIIfly Год назад

Hey Nick, great review coz while watching had the feeling to go out & fly. When fly’n do a orbit around yourself, you‘ve fly’n skillz feel free to show them. Take care

@cyberbeefpv2810 Год назад

Thanks for the review, future is now

@lorinwingtips5290 Год назад

Awesome review. Also, Do both! I have a Mob6 65mm I love, but haven't flown in a year, and plan to convert it to use this new HDZero VTX. But I also have thought about using a 75mm frame. What about a 75mm frame, but using those RCinPower 1002 motors you just reviewed?

@propsoff Год назад

The size, the weight, your skills, super fun...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

@peternguyen3732 Год назад

Love the content! I want one .

@thierryg1138 Год назад

Excellent Nick as usual, looking to see the 75mm with HD0, I'm with Mobula 7 HD elrs.

@dirtymcstinky1656 Год назад

Thanks for the review Nick. I can't wait to get mine. Feels like 65mm is the bleeding edge for hd zero and I am interested in what combo of props, motors and frames are viable. It's probably a given that putting this in 75mm format will be better in every way

@marcosrossetti1582 Год назад

Hi Nick. You know what we are all waiting for. This mob6 hdzero on a 75mm frame as is and how it is compared to the 75mm with 1002 instead of 0802. That's all on 1s later on, 2s on those little hdzero stuff

@ChrisParayno Год назад

2s 75mm is a great sweet spot

@slackerinmotion Год назад

Yes, would like to see the 75mm transformation, please. And if so, the new PID tune. Probably can take a 450mAh battery too on the 75mm frame. Thanks Nick.

@DB-qn1en Год назад

Awesome review as always. It would be nice to see it on 75mm format.

@off-grideverything533 Год назад

Hmm, could be great for touring the bay, I live on. Probably not so good for mid game, IGOW4 😅. Great review as always! Keep up the awesome work

@prodbysamar1948 Год назад

I'd definitely watch the 75mm vid first! The triblade would be interesting too tho

@cristianosaturni Год назад

Hey! Thanks. I propose 75mm with 40mm 3 blades and 0802 at 19k kv. Guessing that flight time may also increase

@JAYFPV24 Год назад

This is really game changing for indoor flying for sureeee I love this I love my whoops living in nyc apt and cold they are amazing and keep me in the air all love nick mandalooooo And also nick I would like to know your rates and pids for whoops I think mine is two slow in flips and rolls for indoor acro lol

@MysteryD Год назад

The gaps around the ufl connector for the video antenna are likely for securing the ufl down with zip-ties, etc. Maybe even a small piece of heat shrink.

@neojeets Год назад

Thanks, Nick. Triblades vs 75mm would be an interesting comparison vid.

@KingTutLight1111 Год назад

Love it

@MrLaserpowered Год назад

Thanks!

@ndcapper Год назад

I'd like to see tri blades first. But I'm more likely to jump for the 75mm conversion. Thanks Nick!

@balajiprasad9046 Год назад

Nice flying...looks like I don't have to upgrade from tinywhoops to toothpicks...but a mosquito conversion might be better for outdoors.

@stevee7029 Год назад

Hey Nick, Great review. It seems we are destined for digital 65's which is great. In terms of modifications, I tend to try the least effort mods first, and in your case would go to the tri-blade props for the first test. Although relatively new to whoops, swapping frames has not been a problem at all and that may end up being the best option. Still, just yanking some props is easy... ...and as you mention, the Mobula 75 HDZero version is great and seems to be similar in cost, although a bit too heavy/powerful for indoors. Hmm, test the props THEN the 75mm frame for indoors? Enjoy!

@flyfpvfish4962 Год назад

Nice review 👌.. it seems to be ok.. not as fast like the first one.. 75mm frame..

@Nspecthergadget2010 Год назад

Tri blades, then step up on the frame. Video looks awesome. Nice review

@gonebdg Год назад

65mm whoop Hdzero 200mW with 300mAh get almost 3minutes is a dream come true !

@ATXAirborne Год назад

Haha. After flying 2 packs through mine, I agree with every single thing you said in this review. Everything from the power lead being too short (good tip on cutting the heatshrink!) to the ELRS antenna getting in the way of the camera. You were dead on with this one. I saw Ryan Quellet's video where he suggested flashing Bluejay 96khz to the ESCs, as well as using the triblade Gemfans. I'm planning to try those things. In the stock configuration, I find it very fun to fly indoors because it's so controllable, but I know it's going to struggle outside. Main immediate complaint is flight time, it's just too short. I think the 96khz should fix that, though.

@parker1ray Год назад

I know many will say that it is to heavy, but I plan to toilet tank the battery like I did on my UR65 with 0802 upgraded motors, and my Mobeetle. Both fly fine since I tend to fly slow and cruzy. I get 4 to 5 minutes with the 450mah batteries.

@AFILalpha Год назад

Any chance you know the length of the screws they used on the vtx/fc? And when/if the canopy will be available on its own?

@jimmy0tran Год назад

Tri-blade has my vote

@CostaFPV Год назад

Hey Nick, looks a bit heavy outdoors. Maybe If swap to 35mm or 40mm... But indoors, in a Race, or doing proximity, that digital can be really a tremendous gain 😃

@RCRitterFPV Год назад

I really prefer my Mob 7 to the 6... so I'm waiting... well need the HDzero goggles, but this is first purchase

@cyberoverkill5844 Год назад

Happy to see this is already 1s friendly, now they need to add a built in DVR and I'll ditch analog!

@botchitong Год назад

cant wait for hdzero goggles before i jump in.. is it gonna be from happymodel too?

@IRON-V Год назад

Hard to imagine all that tech being crammed into a 1s package AND still weighing the same as an Acrobee65... Can't wait to see what the community does next with this gear.

@pirateradioFPV Год назад

Proximity has the capability to keep you challenged, it's relatively safe too :)

@punked6 Год назад

Will flying on a GN3 380 MAH Battery help the performance of this 1s ph2.0 drone any.

@ludofevrier5593 Год назад

Les deux Monsieur 😜 and 35mm props too! The 0702 isn't too tiny for 23gr?

@ahx1314 Год назад

Crux3 with future HDzero vtx lite will be a blast! This mobula6 looks a little limited!

@sketchpv3080 Год назад

How smooth is the live video feed? Looks notchy but that might only be the DVR. For reference, DJI at 120Hz looks smooth to me but I can’t fly in HQ mode with it’s 60fps. I’m pretty sure HDZero is also 60fps max so that’s why I’m inquiring about the smoothness of the live video.

@SunspotFPV Год назад

I would love to see it on tri-blade.

@Mupshot Год назад

you do you. I would prefer 75mm, because thats the size micro I own.

@beauheath4863 Год назад

vote for 75mm format! thanks nick

@MrLaserpowered Год назад

I'd like to see both tri blade and 75mm but I'm more interested in 75mm frame.

@MickRatanapanyo Год назад

3-blade first ya! Whoohoo!

@an_R_key Год назад

i'll buy one when the receiver isn't SPI connected. thanks for the review.

@NickRO1989 Год назад

Triblades first, but still would like to c 75mm conversion

@izemanevobike Год назад

Would like to see 25000KV motors on this. And a 75mm version with 10xx motors.

@breakflight Год назад

I want that whoop, and another of those new whoop boards for a tiny trainer.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I thought I had seen some video of an HDZero tinytrainer? Maybe it was custom.

@breakflight Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV They have one, and it's newish, but it's using the old whoop board, and this new whoop board is considerably better. That whole first generation of VTXs had issues.

@beauheath4863 Год назад

fyi you can make a 'long' nose USB cable by taking a Stanley knife and shaving back the plastic on a spare micro USB cable for any diyers

@jasongauruder5491 Год назад

this is a great next step forward for digital fpv for 65mm and 75mm whoops. was thinking about where any additional weight could be shaved...maybe RENY motor screws and maybe a monopole vtx antenna (at the sacrafice of some vtx penetration quality perhaps and motor attachment durability)? maybe save a total of .5 to 1g doing those two things? other than that, they already eliminated motor plugs... Nick, how warm to the touch did the 300mah battery get at end the flight? I wonder how much draw/load the lite vtx puts on those small 65mm whoop batteries. I suspect a 75mm with 1s 450mah battery will deal a bit better with any extra load/draw the digital vtx places on it.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

The battiers are warm, but I wouldn't say any warmer than other batteries when I fly them, including up to the typical 4s 650s

@airdevil21 Год назад

I would like to see a 75mm!

@meddie79 Год назад

Would like to see Happymodel do this for the crux3 1s, I thing that would be a fantastic combination for outdoor.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

That’s a good call too

@jesseday6090 4 месяца назад

Awesome video Nick thanks for making it ! This might be a stupid question but would you consider the penetration to be better than analog? I'm currently flying HD02 and analog whoops only. I want a bit more penetration and clarity but tried walksnail and that's a no go for me. DJI doesn't have anything small. So I am thinking of HD zero. I I can get even a bit better penetration I'm buying the goggles!

@NickBurnsFPV 4 месяца назад

I can't say with certainty hdzero has better penetration than analog. What is important is the environment and positioning. This might be most helpful ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IEZKtWkeELQ.html as well as the comments

@jesseday6090 4 месяца назад

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you man exactly what I needed to hear! Pulled the trigger on the goggles today. I'll watch the video now thanks again!

@jalkingforjesus Год назад

Can you please include the gemfan 1219 triblades in the next video? NBD stuff is hard to get outside of the US and I would imagine most whoop pilots would have lots of gemfan props from other BNF models.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Good call. Thank you for that.

@originafreerangechicken Год назад

Excellent job, Nick. I’m buying this at some point. I need to see this little guy on tri-blades pretty please!

@Robert-ug8uu Год назад

Maybe avant quads will make a 3.5" BNF with hdzero? "

@avgvstvs96 Год назад

Definitely needs tri or quad blades and a big diet like shutterbugs hdzero whoop build. otherwise 75mm is the minimum you want for hdzero, the difference is huge and it still feels super small

@mikaelbackstrom Год назад

HD Zero is starting to look amazing and seeing such a small whoop fly digital is mindblowing. I wonder a bit tho, it is a bit heavier then an analog of the same size (one can hardy tell the way you fly as a pro :D), so I imagine that is why the Amp draw is over 5A a lot... and the AIO ESCs seems to be rated at 5A. I would be a bit worried to blow the board to be honest, bummer that they did not go with a 12A board since they (should) have the room for it without the VTX on the AIO.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

The esc amp rating is per motor so 5A x 4. The osd reading is total amps. our limit would be ~20amps. yes flight still and how much high throttle we use impacts the flight time and the amp draw.

@mikaelbackstrom Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV ah, I missread that. I thought it was per motor. Thanx Nick. Now I feel more comfortable. :)

@geekmystique Год назад

Go for the 75 ! Either way they should have made this a mobula 7!

@bigg1smalls Год назад

I wonder if Happy Model is going to update the mobula7 with the new vtx and cam I would prefer and 1- 2 s version. Great review keep up the good work.

@juneloko619 Год назад

Nick burns will u recommend some tinywhoop red Rockets 30k kv ?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I have not flown a kv of motor above 26000, and only one at that kv. Sorry I can’t give a recommendation

@rogueFactor Год назад

looks like it stopped the jiggle after your first crash and re-arm after lifting off from grass, it seemed to go away. well, right after liftoff and under the slide is when it seemed to stop. in other news, i sure do like what you replaced the tin shed with!

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Lol that tin shed was supposed to be temporary. We sure upgraded it 😂

@SunriseWaterMedia Год назад

17:00 when you mention decreasing the strength, where is that setting?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Its at the lower portion of the screen where we see the value at 50

@dronevan Год назад

0802 22000 3blades TW Motors, or 75mm 1s

@bjimx Год назад

as soon as you started the video I was thinking that needs to be in a 75 mm frame. those motor wires look short will they fit into a 75 mm frame without lengthening them?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I think if we untwist them they should be long enough

@WTJimmy Год назад

Tri-blades please.

@shogunemperor Год назад

Nice one Nick. I had troubles pulling up from dives too. I feel it really needs those triblades.

@661FPV Год назад

Looks like an interesting setup! But the motor and prop combo does seem kinda wrong. 19000kv and biblades isn't going to have much power, it needs triblades on the 19000kv motors at least, I bet some 25000kv motors would work great, or like you said some 0702 26000kv motors would also work great and drop a few grams. That new FC looks interesting, not much info out there on the FC. Looks like a good FC for the runcam split to go on top of.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

We should keep in mind this AIO is one of the few AIO happymodel has produced without the video transmitter.

@661FPV Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV oh yea there's no Vtx on it I almost forgot that. So it's specifically for HDZ.

@potkill Год назад

I wish youtube gave the video proper bitrate without needing to upscale to 2/4k

@lightbulbjim Год назад

Glad to see they moved away from the solid copper antennas. Those things always felt way too fragile for my liking. If I had that thing in my hands I would likely immediately give it triblades and stick it in a Meteor65 frame. That said, the flight time/lack of power is a bit concerning. Is it just the weight? As much as I want HDZero to succeed, maybe it's just not suitable for 65mm whoops. Once upon a time I had a Mobula6 HD, and ended up ditching the DVR because it just wouldn't perform with the extra weight. Ever since then I've stuck to single board AIOs for whoops.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

It’s a compound of weight and motor kv. We can move up in kv and add triblades but the flight time is likely going to be in the low 2mins. About like the newbeedrone acrobee

@dickvancampen3318 Год назад

There shut be also more options for goggles with this digital system. But it shut fly nice on a 75/85 mm frame maybe more fly time. Amd it's stuck on 1 s on 2s there more options but I don't think these motors can handle the power. There to think of it the flight controller is only 1s . 2s flight controller is left behind with the new vtx 400mw.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

The camera and vtx can run on up to 3s.

@peekabooooooooo Год назад

Hi Nick. I recently got the Mobula7 1S ELRS. My family want to buy me a tinywhoop for my birthday next week. What would you recommend as my second tinywhoop? Thanks mate!

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

What are your thoughts on the mobula7 you have? And do you plan to fly the new one mainly inside or outside?

@peekabooooooooo Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV I messaged you on FB mate if you get chance to take a look, but I'm absolutely loving the Mobula7 1S. I'm flying predominantly inside with it. I'm just wondering what my second indoor quad could be now.

@madladdan Год назад

I hope hdzero drops in price after the hype.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

prices going down isn't likely with really anything...at least in the short run. Prices continue to climb.

@madladdan Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Yea very true

@jimmy0tran Год назад

First, awesome review Nick. I bought one based on your review. I love the quad, however, turtle mode is not working correctly for me. When the quad is armed in turtle mode, and I move the stick, instead of spinning the two left or right motors, it spins diagonal motors, one left and one right. Anyone had this problem before and know how to fix it?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

are you using yaw instead of pitch or roll to turtle the quad?

@jimmy0tran Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Yes that's exactly what happened I didn't notice my finger pressing on the yaw. I don't know about you but I never got turtle mode to work with this quad (even when done correctly). Maybe tri-blade will help. Thanks Nick

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@jimmy0tran Sometimes pitch works better than roll, or the other way around. Sometimes we also have to give it more of that direction to get it to fly. Some flip really quickly with very little input (lighter, higher power to weight ratio), others take more input (more weight and less power to weight ratio).

@TheBadRaven Год назад

New Mob HDZero - VTX keeps shutting down after 20 seconds or so, getting VERY hot. Multi colour snow then black screen. This being flown immediately after power up in only 17C ambient. Wait to cool and it repeats, so def temp shutdown. Runs without shutdown with a fan applied on the workbench. Have verified it is only set to 25mW, too.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

By chance is the antenna disconnected? Antenna help to dissipate heat and without the antenna we may have permanent heat damage. If it is connected has it come off before and does it feel loose?

@HendrixFreakazoid Год назад

Hey Nick you ever fly with your son? I wish I had somebody to rip some chase sequences with round the house on a rainy day because being chased by the dog is just not as fun or good for my whoop which looks like a well used chew toy

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Unfortunately no, I tried to get him interested in RC for years, but its just not his thing.

@vernelv Год назад

I would have get this if i have hdzero goggle

@slackerinmotion Год назад

Hi Nick, glad HM is first-to-market with this digital whoop. I think if this whoop used a GNB27 connector (battery too) it would help with the dive recovery. If I bought this whoop, I would likely change the battery connector and the canopy to the Pickle-pod type that offers more protection for the VTX. Thanks for your time.

@evanwalker5757 Год назад

(im new to this) is it compatible with dji goggles?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

No, requires HDzero goggles or vrx. Vrx is a video receiver we attached to goggles via hdmi in

@crash_lander Год назад

Hello Mr. Nick, I think tri blades will slightly improve the performance but rather than jumping on to 75mm frame with 40mm props I’d suggest you try the betafpv meteor 65 pro frame where in you can accommodate 35mm tri blades, drastically improving the performance yet keeping the 65mm wheel base, however I don’t think the vtx board would fit in there easily. Also I’m thinking how it would be if you use the 1002 motors you recently reviewed in there 🤔. Tri blades are a must in any case under 40mm props. Which video editing software do you use for your videos Mr. Nick?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I am not sure the vtx will fit down between the whoops in the meteor65 pro frame. I use adobe premier to edit videos

@pbshooter100 Год назад

$200!! weeee doggy, I know it's HD video but that seems a bit much for something that size and capability. Makes my analog mobula 6's that I got several years ago for $80 look like a steal.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Prices keep going up, new tech is coming in a much higher prices than new tech two years ago. The days of $80 whoops might be over 🥲

@pbshooter100 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Yea I don't expect them to remain at $80, although there was a time when it was normal for the price of electronics to go down over time, guess those days are over at least until we hit a deep recession. Given that we should expect prices to go up something on the order of over 100% seems to be a bit much.

@user-yk1cw8im4h Год назад

if u do the math the components do add up to $200, hdzero just isn’t cheap tech yet.

@Hellmuthsilva Год назад

What goggles did you use?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

At this time I may have still been using the fatshark hdo2 goggles with the hdzero vrx module. I have since switched to the skyzone 04x with hdzero vrx

@kampkrieger Год назад

triblades!

@momoracer Год назад

weight is a little too much for a 65mm but it's a real improvment in term of technology ! the same in a 75mm with 40mm props and it will be perfect for indoor racing :) good job as usual for the review ;)

@nyclassic4ever130 Год назад

I got this mobula6. When I crash video goes out. I believe mipi connection is loose. Now even without crashing video goes out...making it unreliable. Anyone know what I can do? Maybe acrylic on mipi connectors? Idk 🤔

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I would put a light skin over the connector to the pcb of the camera and AIO.

@nyclassic4ever130 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Just over the connector..got it. I'll try that..thnx Nick. 👍

@Nerdygeekrcfpv Год назад

It’s no way this quad gone hang with the original mobula 6 on a Whoop track , that extra weight gonna play a major difference, performance over everything, I’m sticking to analog on my whoops elrs

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

of course not. Whoops are highly weight sensitive, but for an hd whoop this is one of if not the lightest in its category.

@cyberoverkill5844 Год назад

Vid isnt available in 4k tho?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Looks like its still processing that last resolution. Uploaded this overnight, dang RU-vid taking its sweet time.

@bigg1smalls Год назад

Is the elrs spi or UART based.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I believe it’s spi. To my knowledge only nbd and jhemcu make a uart based AIO, with jhemcu being the one with elrs

@bigg1smalls Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you.