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Movie Execs are terrified to invest money into original scripts. SO, if your movie is 75% other movies with just a slight whiff of something new, then it gets greenlit. But god forbid you have something thought provoking with interesting, deep characters. I firmly believe the "studio execs" find that off-putting or "too complicated" for American audiences. SIGH. Great movies today have to be self-funded and bootstrapped up until studios will even barely touch them.
The last disaster film that I really liked was “Greenland”. Simple story with relatable characters and had some super tense and realistic situations that weren’t just CGI “Disaster Porn”. Even the ending had some real power to it.
I was also beyond confused as to why anyone greenlit this. Turns out the movie was privately funded by Roland Emmerich when he couldn't get a single movie studio to fund it themselves. So basically he lost all of his friends boatloads of money. This might be the end of his career
My reaction exactly last night when I forced myself to sit through it all the way just to see who made this complete waste of time, talent, money, and film. And when I saw that long list of executive producers with so many foreign names, I suspected that that was the only way to get financing was via people who had millions of Euros and yuan to burn. I wonder how many of them invested so that they could get a huge tax write-off to offset some seriously ill-gotten gains from their other "enterprises."
I was going to name Poseidon Adventure also. The original. It focused on one group and their struggles. If there is too much back and forth between various stories, it's hard to follow.
I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Roland Emmerich. I'm old enough to have seen Independence Day in the theater. The entire audience stood up and cheered after the movie was over.
I have to admit, I liked the movie … and *loved* the TV series. Don’t understand how things could have gone so wrong after “Stargate” and “ID4”. I actually liked his “Godzilla” as a decent entry into the “Monster” genre. (Although it was kind of mean-spirited to go after Siskel & Ebert.) The movie just needed to be called something other than “Godzilla”. How ‘bout “Mutation”. I mean, if you’re going to license an IP, then use it. The roar was the only part of “Godzilla” that was recognizable. Anyway, I haven’t enjoyed any of his movies since. His “ID4” sequel was so bad it killed the “Stargate” sequel trilogy project that had already started pre-production!
I saw this last night on a whim. There was SO MUCH that just didnt make sense, and the pacing was absolutely atrocious. For ex. when Michael Penas character died. (Yeah, spoilers but who cares). It went from the group being together, to hard-cut, they got separated and now he has to give his oxygen to his daughter. I legit thought there was a scene missing. They set small things up with no pay off. Like the scene where Patrick Wilson’s character pulls up to the museum, the scene zooms in to him leaving his keys in the ignition, as if to imply his bike will get stolen, but then nothing happens. The scene with the Lexus being switched from ECO to Sport like it was Nitrous oxide was peak product placement cringe. I could go on and on. I dunno how this got made..
Michael Peña's character dying was kinda stupid to me there was one thing he could have done it might have not worked but it could have been worth a try he could have tried putting his coat over his mouth giving him a little bit more breathing and the air would circulate through his coat helping him it may not have worked but it may have but they just had to pull a father sacrifices himself for his daughter cliche move can't wait for cinemasins to do this movie. He's gonna dog on this harder then fast and furious 9
Everything you’re complaining about is exactly what makes this movie phenomenal lmao this is a fun movie with a bunch of dumbass characters making dumb decisions while the MOON IS FALLING WRECKING HAVOC lmao i got exactly what I wanted and got so much more this is a great guilty pleasure film (:
Totally agree with your review. But the one thing that annoyed me the most was the terrible editing of this movie. A few times the transition from one scene to another made no sense at all. Like none. I actually thought something went wrong and they skipped a bit by accident. This happened at least three times, but could be more. Dunno, I lost interest during this insult (let's stop calling it a movie) and while my eyes were directed towards the screen, my mind certainly wasn't. Anyway, I enjoyed your review and I'll be checking your channel more regularly. Thanks mate.
I watched the movie. I think I've suffered permanent IQ damage as a result. The film makes no sense. I spent most of the film wishing the moon would smash into the Earth creating an 8,000 mph shockwave that obliterates all life before the surface turns to lava and the oceans boil off. Sadly, it did not happen.
I didn’t mind 2012 as much as others and I had no idea he did The Patriot ! I had an idea a few years ago about how the earth slows down and gravity loses its impact and how it starts slow with everything getting lighter to then literally everything floating off like a balloon unless it’s tied down, that would be a great disaster movie , thanks again!
Nice idea, but for stuff to float away and lose gravity the earth would need to speed up its rotation… If the earth slowed down the planet would die because the side facing the sun would cook and the side away from the sun would freeze, but gravity would be the same. I love a disaster movie but there are some laws of physics I can’t cope with being broken… same with sci-fi… the whole gravity reversing thing in the total recall remake was atrocious and not even Kate beckensale could redeem the film for me…
Having just binged all your videos I just got a notification for this video: Johnny Appleseed, master of timing! This movie also had major 2012 Flikpick vibes!
One thing I thought was incredibly stupid didn't have to do with the incredibly stupid science, but when the main character told his son, "I want you to be a better man than me", but they just admitted dude was right all along, he stood his ground and maintained the truth about what he saw despite losing his job and ruining his reputation, and he's a astronaught, the movie never showed him being a bad person, or a bad man so him saying that made no sense.
I thought Greenland was really well done for a newer disaster flick. It had some ridiculous spots but also had a lot of emotion to it. Plus I’m a fanboy of Butler. But moments of that movie made you think “ what would I do in this situation “. I’m a disaster movie fan myself and I was looking forward to moonfall after the first trailer.... then the second one came out and it looked like a totally different movie glad I didn’t waste my money on imax for it 😂 😂
If you tell me the premise of the movie is that the moon is on a collision course with earth I'm gonna think it's a movie with shades of cosmic horror and the story is just about different ways the world leaders try to stop it just to fail again and again until they accept their demise and how the average citizens who can't even try to stop it find ways to cope with their imminent death, because you can't do to the moon what Deep Impact and Armaggedon do to meteors. I was legit excited when I heard the premise of Moonfall cause I thought it would be something like that but then I see who the director is, even then I didn't realize how soft of a sci-fi movie it would be, it's like molasses-soft, the plot is held together by bubblegum and string cheese and it just collapses when you stop to think about it for 2 seconds.
I seriously thought there was a major paceing problem. Things just happened way to fast, like there wasn't enough time spent on the actual effects on everything with the moon drawing closer, there was like no sense of dread or urgency. Lots of stuff just didn't make any sense, and for me Hally Berry was terribly cast in that role, she was so Dang boring and forgettable
Literally just binged pretty much all of your videos, and then got a notification for this. Master of timing Johnny Appleseed! This video also had major 2012 FlickPick vibes!!!
If it made 10 million in it's opening weekend there won't be much extra help worldwide, I don't see this scheduled anywhere yet in the Netherlands (small drop of help). Another disaster from Emmerich was 10.000 BC, you could make a massive rant video about that
So what happens at the end of moon fall ? Does superman fly count Ter clockwise around the earth and fines everything or they just have Gru steal a moon from Venus ?
I wonder if John Realises that at 0:17 he is mistaken that Independence Day: Resurgence wasn't Rolland Emmerich's last Movie as that was actually Midway from 2019. Or did he mean to say Rolland Emmerich's last "Disaster" Flick?
I enjoyed your video and I will give it a like but I personally enjoyed "Moonfall" the movie. I do agree, there was some aspects of the movie was silly and the story was pretty far fetch but to be honest, it's another perspective in the way some one thought up an idea for a disaster film. I really enjoyed the film! I could see them making another one that could definitely be way better if someone gives another budget to make another. I could see the alien coming back to destroy earth. I was surprised that you did not enjoy 2012. I loved it. Honestly though, My favorites would be, Day After Tomorrow, Armageddon, 2012, Eli Roth's Aftershock, Twister, Independence Day and last but not least, Into The Storm, was bad ass! I loved when one of the guys on there said " Dude, my arm hairs" A truly great movie. I do not care what anyone thinks, it was really fun to watch!
the "Hollywood" didn’t fund this movie. watch Dan Murrel's video 👌 on Moonfall to see how hard Roland Emerich had to work to get the necessary funding.
I was wondering about the film when saw the poster for. It shouldn't have been a disaster movie, but maybe just explore the hollow moon theory, who-did-what, alien-human mystery.
I'll never watch this. It kills me that Hollywood can't make a great disaster movie (since The Day After Tomorrow, I really like that one). A fun, big action movie with cities getting destroyed would be amazing. I wonder which director would be able to make it great.
I saw the trailer to Moonfall and I leaned over to my gf and said… “that movie looks like shit.” Maybe I should be a studio exec with the power to green light films.
Instead of the Moon falling to Earth, he should have instead make a reboot of Space 1999 where the moon blasts out of orbit (and goes the other direction) but updated with a new cast and high end effects. That would have made more sense and been a better premise. (in Space 1999, nuclear waster or a nuclear stockpile reaction blast the moon out of orbit where a moon base alpha operation of space colonists with small ships travel the cosmos and visit other planets.) I would rather see that! They would have gotten much better box office as there may still be fans from the original series with Martin Landau. It could be called Space 2099. What do you think?
Just watched this last night. I wish I could get my $20 back. The scene where they are smashing the phones and the detonator to kill any power that’s attracting the nano bots, but then he immediately turns on his flashlight…
If it makes you feel better, Hollywood didn't give $150 million to Roland Emmerich to make this movie... as I understand it, he funded this movie himself. He did the same thing with Midway. Studios and Hollywood aren't funding Emmerich to make movies anymore, but he's finding a way to do it anyway! Perseverance!
John I remember I had this movie concept back in 2008. You read it. But the moon was struck by a asteroid. Moon now heading towards earth makes the earth spin faster. Causing daylight and dark come in 6 hour decimals. No alien stuff.
If you want a good disaster film John, I got two for ya! And these are two films that I dont think anyone has ever heard of because they are Norwegian films. But might I digress. They are both called: The Wave and The Quake. And, the best part is that they are both directly related with good human stories to be told. Basically they are also a smart mans Deep Impact and such. If you haven't seen these two films yet, and have been dying for a good disaster films, then you owe it to check these two out pronto! I have spoken.
This movie reminded me a lot of Seveneves. Well, in the detail that the moon is falling and kills everyone. Except that book has a good plot and some cool real science (at least the first and second part, the third is more wild fantasy). The budget for Moonfall could easily have been used for a movie adaptation of Seveneves instead.
The best disaster flick of all time, The Poseidon Adventure from 72'. In camera special effects that hold up today. Saw this one in an Original Dome Theater with the wrap around screens. Moonfall was a bloated mess and I generally like Roland Emmerich. The Day After Tomorrow is his best disaster flick.
Waaaaay late to the party here, but I rewatched "Deep Impact" recently and... oh boy. It does NOT hold up. Its characters have about the same emotional impact of "Moonfall"'s, but it lacks the stuff you can point and laugh at, like Moonfall's Kaspersky product placement and nods to China (you want to know how this movie was financed? That.) Example: there's a scene in "Deep Impact" where Elijah Wood's character has to propose to his highschool sweetheart, because they have to be married in order to get a spot in the Bunker of Plot Convenience. And it is basically an exposition dump. You'd think this would be an incredibly touching human moment, but nope... they killed it. There's one relationship between a main character and her mother that actually does work, which is wasted when they completely drop it two-thirds into the movie to kill off the mother early and bring in a never-before-seen absent father instead. I really like the stuff with Robert Duvall and his space jocks, but it's maybe 15% of an otherwise completely emotionally sterile movie.
I think the peak came around day tomorrow. 2012 was definitely a drop, but it was still good but day after tomorrow had great effects a good cast a cool storyline and it just all went together. Well more of these newer films. Greenland Moonfall Geo storm etc. I’m pretty much just relying on the graphics at this point which is OK but Moonfall was a bummer for me. Only because I thought film overall was good. The cast technically was good. It was just the second half of the movie I was kind of just whatever about. The Armageddon, deep impact, Dantes peak, etc. storylines. I think our overall better, especially the emotion, but the graphics have technically gotten better with newer films. However, twister is still my all-time favorite.
John Bradley’s delivery of his lines in the trailer alone was enough for me. Atrocious script and acting visible from miles away in any few frames of the trailer for this movie alone.
Dude! Thank you, I just watched this movie, I walked at before the climax, I couldn’t take it anymore, I could feel the brain cells leaving my body, the “humor” in this movie was almost the death of me, thanks for putting my thoughts into words
10 things a film director needs to realize if he wants to make a good movie about space in the future. 1. Understanding that people no longer believe in space and consider space to be a hoax. 2. Working within the limits of how reality is considered a stubbornly persistent illusion in Einstein´s writings. 3. Creating a story based on the notion that the characters themselves do not believe in space either. 4. Now the director can choose between a cosmic horror story, or something having to do with programmable spaces, or if it is going to be aimed towards moon landing believers, trying really, really hard to be original. An unoriginal idea which is not creative or realistic does not necessarily have to result in a script which fails at being creative, original or fun to watch. 5. If you want to make a movie about a sci - fi epic like ´Moonfall´, make sure you know what you are doing and aim towards those who know what the storyline is about.6. Make sure you and your actors are all agenda - free.7. Check out if you can recycle your film studio or sell parts of it for future film work. 8. Refuse to work with corrupt people.9. If you want to make a movie called Dune or Moonfall, don´t make it be about 1,001 things including how awesome NASA is or how they are going to save the world in a world which has lost faith in NASA´s ability to inspire.10. Allow your actors and coworkers to criticize you and work with your script together, then let lots and lots and whole lots of people read the script before its aired. Now, imagine being a moon landing believer who confronts the Moon falling on Earth in a world where it can actually happen - work within those limits.Thanks for your criticism. Kind regards from Ásgeir in Iceland.
Independence day and Armageddon. I agree, this movie was pretty dull. The only part that I somewhat cared about was shuttle's launch and how it barely cleared the tidal wave coming ashore. I was like "oh damn, that was crazy" . Funny thing was that I had just watched "Don't look up" on Netflix, the night before which was better than Moonfall.
This movie made Green Lantern look like The Godfather. A movie like this would have worked in the 90s and it did it was called Independence Day. But we're in the 2020s now Roland.
Everything you said was 100% true. This movie suck. So many terrible pointless scenes. I felt bad for the all star cast. It was like they knew it sucked.... the Lexus car scene had me lmao...
05:43 I will correct you. The most important reason they were in it was $$$$ and plenty of it. Even Haley has bills to pay. As for Patrick this is not his first Emmerich film. He was also in Emmerich's previous film Midway and we all know how much Emmerich likes to work with actors multipe times and the fact that plenty do come back and work with him again tells me his films may be horrible but working with him is not. This film was independently financed and with that came less interference and most definitely less oversight and that allowed the money to flow into their pockets more than the film itself. I wonder if Emmerich is currently a wanted criminal in China after losing $100+ million but then again China is mostly paying for the pandering and Emmerich gave them their money's worth as well as selling out to product placement. Emmerich will see these things as the current cost of business but that doesn't mean it isn't pathetic. Emmerich has always been the king if cringeworthy dialogue but his films are usually entertaining guilty pleasures but this film made Independence Regurgence look like a masterpiece.
I wanted to like this movie.. but everything in it is stupid.. from the guy that stood there watching the wave hit the building through the glass door to the dumb AI that apparently doesn't know what technology is?... also.. why was the "monster" attacking the core instead of the tech that surrounded it?
Alright I have to correct you on one thing: Independece day Resurgence was not Roland Emmerich's last movie. Midway was. But Midway wasn't anything great either so I think your point still stands.
There's a lake in Africa which kills entire populations every now and then. Lake nyos? Imagine a disaster movie based on something similar and make a mystery out of it similar to how the show "Chernobyl" portrayed the meltdown as a sort of unseen menace
Apparently, for all its faults, it's incredibly historically accurate. Kind of reminds me of old school war epics like A Bridge Too Far, just with CGI instead of practical.
You actually make the plot sound interesting, while it's far more the sloppiness of the execution of its ideas and the childish notions of gravitational principles/physics and science in general that pulverizes all that storytelling/"dramatic" stuff on screen. The trip through the inner moon I thought quite beautiful and deserving of some kudos. Funny noting INDEPENDENCE DAY as a high (or "higher" ) point in the disaster genre as I don't recall anyone having much good to say about that film (either from friends, fans or critics) upon its release (tho the miniature work WAS impressive indeed). Ha, be even funnier if MOONFALL was to become a higher-point reference in the future following release of some even more outrageous disaster film!) (A more thought-out follow-through in the film could've made SOME sense of that Chrysler Building situation, but I'm too typed out today to be able to lay out any post-film /conceptual retro-fixes.) Thanks for the video!
John: how did you come by a distinctly Chicago accent? - Aren't you from Ohio? Don't believe me? - Pull up one of your old reviews and listen to yourself say, "Batman." - That's when I first noticed it; but, once you hear it, you realize how distinct and ubiquitous it actually is. - Or, at least I do, and I'm from Chicagoland.
I just saw this and its a mess right from the beginning all the way to the end. Great visuals and ambition, but there were so many unnessary things that happened and many things that should have happened.
What a shame. I'm not good in science but I bet I would've given a better solution to this mess. It could've been a very simple idea, the moon crashing with earth. That can actually happen so why the complicated stupid storyline here?! What a waste of money. The Day After Tomorrow was actually enjoyable and fun to watch. Even 2012 was hilarious and a guilty pleasure.
Tbh, I thought the movie looked fun. I found out about the movie when I saw No Way Home in the theater. And I think my favorite Roland Emmerich movie is White House Down. I really did enjoy that. And from everything I've seen for this, yeaaaaa, it's not good lol and now I don't wanna see the movie.
I saw the movie... 2 thinks that is impossible to do in the movie.... 1st a bright star in the moon? Nop impossible... And at the end the kid calling is father by a satellite phone?🤣🤣🤣 What... The earth is falling apart and the satellites communications are up there? Oookkkkkk.... 😶