Mormon Prepper Life - Kim (Parrett) and Josh Coffin Pt. 1 | Ep. 1828

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Kim's upbringing was fraught with fear, driven by intense preparations for the Second Coming. Themes of spiritual scrupulosity and the ominous echoes of evil spirits were deeply ingrained. Her father's prepper mindset, financial exploitation, and extreme beliefs added to the tumult. Josh's narrative exposes the suffocating expectations of righteousness and conditional love, culminating in his distressing mission experience and subsequent social rejection.
This candid conversation delves into the challenges and repercussions of rigid Mormon ideology, underscoring the profound impacts on individuals and families. The gripping insights shared here provide a raw and thought-provoking glimpse into the complex realities faced by many within the Mormon community.
Kim & Josh's channel: ‪@SweetRedPoppy‬
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Chapters
00:00:00 Introductions
00:07:25 Kim’s Mormon story
00:13:15 What was her vision of what the Second Coming would be like?
00:14:33 Religious Scrupulosity
00:20:05 Bathing suit and modesty
00:23:20 Culture of making fun of mental health
00:26:36 Childhood with Mormon prepper parents
00:28:30 Her father was strict and abusive
00:29:10 She would always doubt herself not her father
00:39:20 Being a prepper is so much more than food storage
00:44:45 What does it mean to be called out? - “Called Out” with the 144,000
00:48:50 Her father was financially preying on these believers
00:52:45 Roger K Young had visions that he published
00:57:00 Struggling to understand why does High School matter
00:58:20 Moving from Arizona to Idaho
01:02:00 Her dad’s views on modesty
01:09:55 High School Years
01:18:15 Theme in Mormonism of Conditional love
01:22:00 The Prepper movement in Mormonism
01:40:50 It was hard to tell what was normal and what was abuse
01:55:15 Josh starts his Mormon story
02:05:35 Experiencing shame as a Mormon teen
02:12:00 Bishop roulette, bishops responding differently to his confessions
02:18:04 Josh’s mission experience and being sent home early
02:36:45 Dating after his mission - being rejected by the community
02:54:00 Marriage in the Temple
03:04:40 Education of Mormon women
03:11:00 Ebola outbreak
03:13:14 Visions of Glory have been inspirations for violence, etc.
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@ccbloom1968 8 месяцев назад

The way this husband deeply cares for his wife….. heart warming x

@CalmEverAfter 8 месяцев назад

Its so sweet!

@dollynormand5864 8 месяцев назад

He’s so caring. Very loving couple ❤️

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

He's incredible! ❤️ We are lucky to have found each other when we did! I can't imagine doing life without Josh by my side!!

@heavencanwait421 8 месяцев назад

And she is a sweet adoring wife. They are beautiful.

@VTheYo 8 месяцев назад

What’s beautiful is that they love each other so much more than either of their parents loved their spouses…they broke the mold.

@luliekarinacardon4955 8 месяцев назад

My son came back home from his Mission 6 month earlier due to an accident caused him to have brain concussion. After he recovered from his injury, he tried to date. And the first question every girl asked him was something like "So did you serve a Mission?" followed by "Did you complete 2 year-mission?" Then, "why did you come home earlier?" At the end, he married a career-driven woman who cared none of those. She loves my son unconditionally.

@starlingswallow 8 месяцев назад

I'm so glad your son found love based on him and not his "works"! ❤❤❤

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

I’m so sorry to hear your son experienced that! But so happy he found someone who loves him! ❤️

@catherineb5 8 месяцев назад

My WASP ex LDS sons gf here in utah is GASP a mexican non practicing Catholic and we couldn’t be happier. Sorry LDS girls you’ll be missing out on an honest hilarious brilliant handsome tall strong one and he gonna be making a lotta $$ one day 🥴🤷🏻‍♀️ Darnit if only whether you did or didn’t serve a mish wasn’t so unreasonably expected.

@kkk2419 6 месяцев назад

Carrier driven and unconditional love don't match.

@Flipper568 5 месяцев назад

@@kkk2419your comment isn’t loving

@jessicadurham1772 8 месяцев назад

I want to thank Kim so much for being brave enough to talk about her story. I also love seeing Josh being so supportive right beside her.

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

Thank you, Jessica! I couldn't have done it without Josh by my side! :)

@markshwack1 8 месяцев назад

Who would have thought that i would be watching the story of Josh Coffins faith journey on Mormon Stories . All the support to the Coffin family. His friend group often intermingled with mine in high school and can't stress enough how great of a guy he is.

@2Charri 8 месяцев назад

Look who it is! I see you already started watching this lol

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Mark!! Super appreciate your kind support!

@poziki 8 месяцев назад

This is the best thing ever. Made my day to see this on my RU-vid feed today.

@anabelgarner3338 8 месяцев назад

Love to hear this

@shelby477 8 месяцев назад

Can y'all go find that mission president and rip him a new one for me? I'm just an old, once Catholic now atheist lady trying to survive in the South, but Josh's mission story has me wild. Josh, you did not deserve that and it was a truly evil thing to do to you. You both are amazing and thank you for sharing all of this. ❤️❤️❤️

@bodytrainer1crane730 8 месяцев назад

I love how Josh seems like an actual feminist. Not many men that I have met even seem able to see sexist issues.

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

He really is! He spent time working with a therapist specializing in feminism (after we left the LDS church) so that he could unlearn what he had learned in the church and become a better father and husband. ❤

@catlovesthemoon 8 месяцев назад

@@SweetRedPoppythat’s amazing!! 😻

@francinesanchez5402 8 месяцев назад

This is beautiful. Makes me feel hopeful for the world.

@mitsuracer87 7 месяцев назад

There's a difference between being a regular person and a feminist. Don't insult the man

@leandradozier968 7 месяцев назад

@@SweetRedPoppythat’s amazing! You guys are an awesome couple!!

@Allthoseopposed 8 месяцев назад

Tammy Daybell was the steady breadwinner in her family too while Chad was off preping and trying to make it big. 🤦‍♀️

@Dianalynne 8 месяцев назад

Also, just like Chad, he is an underachiever within the Mormon mainstream who decided to create his own status.

@Jess-in5rg 8 месяцев назад

I can’t get over how sweet and supportive they are to each other 😭beautiful people 💖

@norahoelscher522 8 месяцев назад

I’m older, 63 female EXmo. Omg, I’m finding this young couple so interesting. They could mirror my whole life. I’m so happy that they found out that this is a shame based religion. I’m so happy they got proper therapy! Unfortunately, I found out too late, but I’m trying to rebuild myself. I’m one of those moms that lived for her kids. Now that I’m not in the church, I have No community. I’m having to almost relearn to re-parent my kids and myself. The church really hurt my self esteem and confidence. I always felt inferior as I didn’t want my boys to go on a mission. I would mention that to other women and then was avoided like I had some evil demon in me. I know it’s going to probably take the rest of my life to undo everything! Kudos ❤to this couple.

@starlingswallow 8 месяцев назад

Norah, SO PROUD of you for turning things around for you and your kids! It's hard. I'm 43 and deconstructing from regular Christianity/evangelical and it's hard. I wish you and your kids the best! ❤

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

I think it's amazing that you are rebuilding, relearning, and reparenting! ❤

@davidandersen9177 8 месяцев назад

I want to let Josh know he truly was beyond his years when he chose to respect the privacy of the other Elders. Only a person with a true sense of honor would act in that capacity. The irony of an institution that considers itself honorable, could glean so much from your example. This to me is an uplifting story of strength… I could go on and on - Respect Josh !

@whenimonmymoon6822 8 месяцев назад

I *so* appreciate that y'all took the time to show Josh that he was ethically correct and sound in his refusal to turn in his peers and take care of himself. He so clearly needed to hear it and in that moment we got to see him have the maternal response he so deserved. Thank you.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@AndImsomelady-fq6cw 3 месяца назад

That was so beautiful and touching. Margi is so kind and Josh deserves all the credit for his time and the honor of his ethics. I hope that made sense.

@jdavis4408 8 месяцев назад

Thanks John and Margie for showing so much compassion for Josh and Kim in telling their amazing story. It gave a lot of background to all the sad stories circulating right now involving child murder and child abuse. Josh and Kim I wish only the best for you both as you continue your journey. Your discernment and courage shines bright.

@laurasimonson9926 8 месяцев назад

Thank you to Mormon Stories for explaining what scrupulosity is and how it impacts people. I had never heard the term prior to hearing the issue discussed on Mormon Stories two years ago. It absolutely explains my experience as a youth in the church and the fear and anxiety that I lived with for so long. It also made leaving the church so much more difficult. My heart goes out to everyone who struggles with this. ❤

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

I first learned about Scrupulosity from MS as well. I'm so grateful for that knowledge and the opportunity to share my experience with it as well.

@whenimonmymoon6822 8 месяцев назад

The question of if there were places of softness for her made me immediately tear up. What a tender and insightful question.

@kassystuart8874 8 месяцев назад

I was also scared of being seen in the tub, shower or dressing. Even going to the bathroom. They were always able to see us. So scary as a kid!

@robertofunk673 8 месяцев назад

🎉good stories John Bob Funk😊

@whenimonmymoon6822 8 месяцев назад

Ditto! I also disliked that Santa could see me naked!

@kassystuart8874 8 месяцев назад

@whenimonmymoon6822 yes! And santa🤣🤣 more afraid of heavenly father, Jesus & the holy ghost but this Santa comment cracks me up. I was only scared of him seeing me around winter🙃

@whenimonmymoon6822 8 месяцев назад

@kassystuart8874 hahaha, i recently used it as an example when talking to my mom about my religious trauma. I was like, y'all didn't mean for me to take "he sees all" as "he pops in while I shower" but that concept was so ingrained it made me nervous about Santa, too! The other example I used was as a kid we weren't allowed to wear "jelly shoes" nc they were expensive and had no support, however, my sisters and I were so trained in purity culture we assumed it's bc they were somehow slutty/immodest. 🤷‍♀️

@Allthoseopposed 8 месяцев назад

Me too friend. This episode brings back a lot of emotion and helps me see where I grew to be so hyper vigilant and scrupulous. It was required of me, it’s the only way I could exist in that environment.

@kabress42 8 месяцев назад

So appreciative of Kim & her husband sharing their story. ❤

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@cabbagebaker 8 месяцев назад

I have a child who has struggled severely with OCD, so much of what Kim say strikes home. It's one of the reasons we initially took steps away from the church seeing how negatively the purity culture affected her. Thanks for sharing Kim, I will be sharing this with her.

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

You're so welcome! It was one of the things that caused us to take a step back, too. Seeing my daughter have OCD-like tendencies and knowing how damaging that could be for her made us really question what we were doing.

@user-ur4tk2pk8f 8 месяцев назад

This had me in a flood of tears. I feel so much empathy for Kim and admiration for the person she has become despite this deeply traumatic upbringing. This has strengthened my resolve to keep teaching my own daughter that she is unconditionally loved, that her body is hers, and that she always has people in her corner who will believe and support her.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

❤❤

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

Your comment has me in tears. Thank you for teaching your daughter these invaluable lessons. ❤

@Cocoon68 8 месяцев назад

My sister was involved in that group AVOW years ago when Julie Rowe was going around to Stake centers talking about her NDEs! She too spent all her 401k that she had accumulated through the years.. I had no idea at the time why she quit her job and took her 401k out. It was all about the narrative that this woman was spewing and also the book visions of glory had much to do with it as my sister also loved that book and took it as almost Doctrine.. Today she is quite embarrassed that she was so misled but she lost soo much in the process.. After the Chad and Lori daybell issue she got out of the group. It makes me wonder had that not happened that she would still be all in

@ah5721 8 месяцев назад

Julie Row sounds familiar... can you please remind me why?

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

I’m so sorry to hear she went through this. I've heard many similar stories and its heartbreaking! That was part of my reason for speaking out about this. I hope she knows she's not alone. ❤ Many people have been duped by Avow.

@heathermayfield4247 8 месяцев назад

Part of the Chad Daybell, Lori Vallow circle.@@ah5721

@Georgie3463 8 месяцев назад

@@ah5721Julie Rowe is an author who was published by Chad Daybell. She wrote of near death experiences

@bodytrainer1crane730 8 месяцев назад

I was so touched and inspired by Josh's mission story. It inspires me to the highest levels to know he gave up so much that could have made him look good to be true to his own ethics. His Mom was right in a weird warped way..... he's a diamond in the rough. At least that's how I see it. ❤️❤️❤️

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🙏 ❤ 🥹

@ximasillygoosex 8 месяцев назад

Watching Josh watch Kim tell her story is so sweet. He clearly is so pained by her pain and cares for her so much. Sending love to both of them ❤

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

It’s been a long journey, she’s so brave! Therapy has helped us so much 🙏

@angelaarnett3333 8 месяцев назад

Gosh I sobbed along with her discussing her abuse. I want her to have the best life possible. My heart aches for her.

@missionledcontent 8 месяцев назад

These two are the most beautiful couple. Her response to him after his mission was so moving ❤

@jayylad38 6 месяцев назад

2:51:18 josh, thank you for crying. thank you for being vulnerable in these moments without shame. margie, thank you for hearing him. thank you for engaging with him and validating him over and over again. men's fears and pains and emotions regarding failure and not being seen and being heard are so often disregarded and minimized. this was very refreshing and very validating and very meaningful to watch. josh i am so sorry this happened to you and i hope you can heal and i hope you have people that love you and appreciate you and show you it every single day now. you deserve to be shown your worth and praised for your hard work. you and kim make an amazing team and when you sit together and speak together your fortitude shines. i'm sorry you have both had to be so resilient throughout all of this.

@beckywilliams7692 8 месяцев назад

The idea that someone is perhaps not righteous enough being the reason for mental health issues hits too close to home for me- my daughter was told the same thing by a seminary teacher, that if she read her scriptures more and prayed more her depression wouldn't be as bad. She never went back after that, and I sure wasn't about to make her go. We talked to leadership about this and nothing was done to remove the teacher from the calling and she is still teaching the youth in spite of other bad experiences I won't go into. It was the beginning of her process of leaving, and mine as well.

@Sarahwithanh444 8 месяцев назад

I grew up mormon in New Zealand during the 80s and 90s. My parents were extremely conservative, extremely strict, and food storage was of massive importance. I too grew up with fear and anxiety being the main emotional state, and it’s impacted my adult life in a big way. I’m not diagnosed OCD, however my mother definitely had/s it (also undiagnosed, and not the only mental health issue - I believe), and it played a huge role in my development. Scrupulosity was absolutely what I experienced growing up mormon, along with many other mental health struggles - I was also diagnosed with Autism at 36, and I believe this also hugely impacted how I grew up and all the struggles I am dealing with now (40), due to how I perceived the world around me. My parents also have a bias against professional mental healthcare - they still now will not seek out therapy, even though they really could benefit from it. I never knew the concept of mental health or wellness - I internalised it as a failure on my part, and developed a strong core belief that I was fundamentally flawed. This led to ongoing suicidal thoughts and even attempts, all of which I kept hidden, because of the negative messaging I received. I really relate to Kim’s story and appreciate the podcast! It’s always comforting to feel like you’re not alone. My heart breaks listening to Kim speak about her father - I too had a super strict and controlling father, who was physically abusive, as well as psychologically and emotionally abusive, and I feared him. Like Kim, I never felt safe at home, and would isolate myself in my room.

@starlingswallow 8 месяцев назад

Sarah, I am so so so sorry that you went through this. It sounds nightmarish. 😢 Sending you the biggest of hugs! ❤

@whenimonmymoon6822 8 месяцев назад

There is nothing sweeter to see than spouses who are proud of one another. I love that they acknowledge they married to young, are happy to be married, and clearly champion one another. ❤

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

❤️ thanks so much!

@lauragayhart9618 8 месяцев назад

I, like many non- Mormons, started watching Mormon Stories to get insight around some of the recent crimes that have happened involving the LDS community. This particular episode has been so enlightening and informative about the actual experiences of young Mormons. This couple is so loving and kind and their experiences are heartbreaking. They are so lucky to have each other and to have come out on the other side stronger and wiser. Thank you to MS for sharing their story and much love to the Coffin family as they continue to heal. ❤

@marylamphere2112 8 месяцев назад

When i received my Patriarchal Blessings I was told I would live to the second coming and when i started talking about this with others who had received their blessing they had the same thing in theirs. The CallOut was something we were told we had to be ready for, our seminary teacher grabbed on to our blessings and suddenly we were being taught the importance of being ready for the tribulations that would come before the return. When President Hinkley gave his conference talk on Joseph interpreting the dream of Pharoh and our need to he prepared for our 7 years of famine it ramped up again. Their obsession with the end of the world was disturbing to me as a teenager and now as a 40 year old woman my heart breaks for how much damage is done to kids mentally with this crap. I remember trying to shower as quickly as possible for fear of being naked if "something" happened and getting dressed UNDER my towel in my room because I didn't want anything to see me naked. And when I talked to my mom about it she brushed it off as "well that isn't what the church means" yet my mom or my teachers would say that we're constantly being watched and every act written down. That we would see a film of our lives and everyone would see our every sin at judgement. It is a truly destructive environment for anyone but especially children.

@hollywebster6844 5 месяцев назад

"If your body was covered, you were safer." This pierced my heart. As a survivor who has struggled with body issues for more than 50 years, this was an ah-ha moment. I've long been aware that I dress in an attempt to deflect male attention, but I have never voiced this as being covered by clothes = increased safety. Now that I see this about myself, I can see how clothing-safety extends beyond not wearing low cut tops. Boots with thick tights, scarves, gloves, hats, lots of layers. I never had an issue with wearing a face mask to reduce the transmission of viruses. I could be even more covered and safe. Thank you for voicing your truth; your truth has helped me to discover more of my own truth. 💞

@Michele-Blessings 8 месяцев назад

Oh Kim, I connect so much with you. I too grew up in a home that was restrictive and depressed. I was raised as a Jehovah Witness and left when I was eighteen. LDS beliefs are very similar. My Father was high up within the organization as well. . I too have some good memories but when there’s more negative times it does wash out the good ones at times. I too played outside a lot too. I wasn’t allowed to have friends outside the organization nor participate in school activities. I never felt I was enough or a good person.. My gosh the fear was paralyzing throughout my life. Most of my life I felt I left the only true religion. I can say through great therapy, learning to be open minded, I have grown but not without pain. Shunning is so damaging if I allow it.. I realize my parents raised me and my siblings the only way they knew how but most importantly that any religion is man made. My spirituality is better than ever and I do have purpose. I’m worthy of Gods love, we all are. Josh, you remind me so much of my husband. You two are building your lives so beautifully. Thank you for sharing your stories. 56:28

@2Charri 8 месяцев назад

Went to Highschool with Josh and his brother! Wow you never know who is an exmo these days!

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Is this Jordan!!? Which Jordan? ❤️

@kimberlypurcell754 8 месяцев назад

I LOVE Margies perspective of Josh 'standing up' for himself. Proud of you, Josh!! My son didnt graduate from seminary because he was HONEST in telling the truth of not reading all the scriptures that were required of them. How many seminary students are really being truthful about their reading. My son felt honesty was more important. Great things will come your way, Josh, because of how you stand up.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for those kind words! Means a lot 🥹

@TRGillett 7 месяцев назад

John, I am glad you mentioned Bruce R. McKonkie's book "Mormon Doctrine." Those teachings were strong in my upbringing. I'm curious, was anybody else taught that in the spirit world, before God sends us to the kingdom of glory in which we would be assigned, that a "video" of our life would be played for all to see? That always petrified me, especially as a kid. Thank you, Kim and Josh for sharing your stories with us. Watching this, I can feel the love, care, and concern that Josh has for his wife, Kim. That warms my heart tremendously.

@sicilywyatt8396 8 месяцев назад

I grew up in an evangelical Christian home and relate to 90% of what these two have shared here. Minus the prepper stuff and the sexual abuse (I did experience other types of abuse) i could be saying these same words. So just sharing yo to show that this isn’t just happening within morman religious communities. So heartbreaking!

@treenamorgan2469 8 месяцев назад

Thank you. I’m from Idaho, and generations have been terrorized from AVOW and the survivalists have TERRIFIED and runnier thousands of lives for decades. Our water use to get shut off between my Mons tithing and prepping. I don’t know how we didn’t all end up like JJ and Tylee. I’m still watching but if this is one of Chris and Sues daughters I’m glad you made it out the other side. That IS the miracle!!

@leahmiars5958 8 месяцев назад

Prepping has not been covered properly in mainstream media, they really have made prepping acceptable without accountability

@ah5721 8 месяцев назад

If done right it's helpful if you lose your job or there is a natural disaster. Then you have the crazy conspiracy people. I prep but I'm not paranoid about it. I put away food so if we lose our jobs we'll have food etc.

@justrachel4496 8 месяцев назад

1:44:00 I want to highlight how Josh is behaving here because it's so mature and supportive. He's clearly having an emotional reaction to what she is saying, but he is offering comfort and support via his hand on her leg and well placed nods, he is letting her continue to talk without interruption, he is not calling attention to the fact that he is having a response as well, and is not making it about him. I often see well meaning friends/relatives having an emotional response to a loved one's trauma, but instead of keeping the focus on the person the events actually happened to (where it belongs) they make it about themselves, so rather than offering support to the actual victim they end up essentially forcing their loved one to comfort them. I understand why it happens, but it shows your loved one that you can't be trusted to support them through difficult emotions without flipping it around to be about yourself. I wish more people would be like Josh in this situation.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Wow thank you!

@AndImsomelady-fq6cw 3 месяца назад

Yes, and unfortunately a lot of times that response is anger. I know for myself, that anger makes me retreat and sometimes even try to protect the person who everyone is angry at. I really appreciate that he just listened and let her have her own feelings. So refreshing to see.

@kathymunsee6468 2 месяца назад

The Mormon prophesy is that:being prepared will be as essential as Noah entering the Arch. In other words, if you're not prepared,you will be destroyed

@cmdaug 8 месяцев назад

Who else is in love with this super supportive husband?

@edamameedamame1202 8 месяцев назад

Is Scarlett Letter a book Mormons can read? Public shaming and group dynamic intimidation and fear traumatized this wonderful, gentle and honest man. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

@melanie9369 8 месяцев назад

Wow! I've lived in Utah as a never mormon since I was 10. This gives me a whole new perspective on things. As a non mormon kid in Utah I felt ostracized and grew a major resentment against mormons. I was the teen girl who was rejected by the boyfriends family and it was painful. I've never heard about things from a mormon's perspective until now. What a great platform to create awareness, connection, and understanding. I have a new understanding and appreciation for what goes on behind closed doors. ❤🙏I wish healing for you both and for all experiencing these things.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@gingerhiser7312 8 месяцев назад

I found that LDS were welcoming until they found out they couldn't convert you and then they wouldn't give you the time of day.

@user-rs1wc9qs3n 8 месяцев назад

Love how supportive you are of each other I saw on tiktok today a post that said "you are someone now that your child self would feel safe with... and that's enough, you're enough" and that was really powerful to me

@nicoleloisee 4 месяца назад

I feel really touched by the love and support you can see Kim and Josh even giving each other in this video. I’m a CSA survivor and when I tell you that that’s the kind of love I and many others hope for I really mean it. I also really want to say this. I’m a survivor of young childhood CSA. I know a lot of other survivors. It is deeply deeply concerning to me how many people I am seeing coming from the LDS church who went through this too. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of so many coming from the same group of people. There are obvious reasons we can see why, like the shame, the misogyny and the lack of sex education, but it is just weighing on me wondering how many victims there are out there suffering still scared to speak up. Thank you for giving so many a platform, I’m from the UK and have never been LDS but have found your interviews so interesting and valuable to watch.

@waterfall_brook 8 месяцев назад

Sweet Red Poppy has been my go to for so much sewing advice! Thank you, Kim and Josh, for sharing your stories. I think your words are going to help so many people. Also, Margi is absolutely rocking this interview!

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the sweet words!! Margi really does rock!❤

@emilydoria1683 8 месяцев назад

I really appreciated josh telling his mission story, as it really mirrored my own as a first-born golden child who ‘never made mistakes’ until I came home early from my mission. Disappointing everyone was absolutely heartbreaking, and I tried so hard to compensate for it from working at the temple, to serving in multiple callings. I wanted to redeem myself in the community’s eyes and convince them that I was still “good”. Little did I know that coming home early was the first time I chose myself, even for a brief moment. Beginning that journey of living for me was the best thing I ever did. Josh articulated all the feelings so well ❤

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

Proud of you for choosing yourself! I loved the way Margi refrained Josh’s experience in this episode. ❤ Such a wonderful way to view it!

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@PatriciaBilbo 8 месяцев назад

Love how compassionate Josh is with Kim. What a fantastic support system she finally has. What an amazing couple

@rivkahmiri513 8 месяцев назад

So astute about her dad. She is so empathetic I'm a licensed therapist and using my education differently right now Parentification and Triagulation for sure. I know about parentification and experienced it. it's a lot of pressure and very painful.Hearing her sexual abuse was heartbreaking.Oh Josh, so sorry too. I'm so glad you and Kim found each other! ❤ I'm a licensed clinical social worker in California never Mormon. I relate to many of these stories because I am hard on myself too because of the abuse I suffered. Sending so much love and admiration for both of you. ❤

@arielkmusic 8 месяцев назад

It's fascinating to hear about Mormon preppers! Far more fascinating and relatable for me than I thought it would be. I was raised Mormon, but I didn't feel that I was raised with this prepper mindset, yet as I listen, so much of this resonates with my experience and how I internalized what I grew up in. I think the years when the church struggled financially were traumatic, and have led to a deepening of the hoarding tendencies in the church. I grew up when a year supply of food was really being pushed consistently, and it permeated how I saw the world. I also watched how empty shelves during 2020 triggered my mom's fears. The church really cultivated fear of not being worthy, and not having enough, and not being safe or good enough. I felt and internalized all of this, even growing up in (what I feel was) a very moderate Mormon home. I feel like learning about different fundamentalist and extremist Mormon views is really helping me trace back to roots of iasues I couldn't see before (if that makes sense). I'm grateful to this beautiful couple for sharing their stories, and I'm so glad I decided to watch this episode! I'm here for all the prepper episodes to come! ❤️❤️❤️

@GenXersJustWalkItOff 8 месяцев назад

I totally get the tears about Legos… I dreamed and dreamed as a child about playing the guitar and was so excited when my parents got me a guitar and lessons, and then I started lessons and talking about it at school, and the other girls constantly talked about how “Boys play guitar! Girls play piano!” …and it was true that I only saw boys playing guitar at my teacher’s house, while the girls were always learning piano with his wife… they eventually wore me down, and I wanted approval so much I gave it up., and it was a great loss.

@andreabeil3651 8 месяцев назад

You can still learn it or take it up.❤

@ajordan1976 8 месяцев назад

@@andreabeil3651came here to encourage her to start learning to play as well. I hope she does.

@Lisa-mw6te 8 месяцев назад

So curious how parents control things they shouldn't at times. I wanted to learn flute, but my mother chose Clarinet for me. I don't know why. I had no real talent for it, but knew she would be disappointed of I quit, so I continued through Jr High. I probably would have sucked at the flute, too.

@janetbrockman3729 8 месяцев назад

My church life 74-08....the notions of evil spirits etc....virtually nonexistent. I could confidently say that it was not in the manuals...except maybe the story of the evil spirits going into swine. But that was never about me feeling threatened by being surrounded by evil spirits....or definitely not concerned about evil spirits possessing my body. I consistently see a big difference geographically and culturally with the Mormon experience.

@davidandersen9177 8 месяцев назад

I would like to add that both of these young people are beyond their years, so we’ll spoken. This is by far my favorite Mormon Stories Podcast.

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

What a sweet compliment! Thank you for listening to our story!

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@KamBB-gu3pv 7 месяцев назад

The ability to communicate through emotion is so powerful and so beautiful. Healing, actually. You guys are doing a service to all those who have been victimized.

@Pintsizequilts 8 месяцев назад

My heart just breaks for this couple. I’m happy they found each other. On a lighter note, as a quilter and crafter, happy to find another craft channel to watch.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for supporting Sweet Red Poppy!

@marymitchell6257 8 месяцев назад

I watched the whole thing twice. I’m not ex Mormon and my experiences are not nearly as extreme as what’s described here, but Kim is able to describe things in such a relatable way to anyone that’s experienced abuse in their family. I’m glad they have each other.

@dan_YELL 8 месяцев назад

Kim, if you see this - kudos to you on speaking out. I hope it helps to lift (at least some of) the weight caused by the association with your father. We are not responsible for our parents but we sure are responsible for healing from them! Josh, my goodness! You seem so wise for your age. Both of you, actually. Thank you for being such an amazingly supportive partner. Giving hope to some of us who've been in the opposite kind of relationships. Wishing you both a lifetime of health, happiness and healing. 💙

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!! ❤️

@myadventures9996 8 месяцев назад

Wow, surprised to see Josh here, cause I knew him from when I started doing my accounting degree back in 2012 at BYU-I. He is spot on about the the feeling of a women’s degree being less important, that women were getting their degree as a “back up” in case the man in their marriage couldn’t provide. Growing up LDS in California some of that Idaho Rexburg bubble mentality was certainly tiresome at times - like one time the scroll newsletter had a wedding checklist on its front page lol! I felt like an outlier at times cause there really were only like 3-4 women to a class of 30, and then shocked to see the accounting profession is more like 50/50! Thanks for sharing both of your stories, it is very insightful, can’t wait for part 2 :)

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Omg please reach out to me! Appreciate your comment!

@whatsthesong4295 8 месяцев назад

I have been getting emails from Kim from her sweet red poppy blog for years, and I mean FOREVER. I didn't even know she used to be LDS. Her email title this morning shocked me and comforted me since I deconstructed almost 3 years ago now. And while it's not quite so obvious now, I know my mom and husband still hope I'll come back. I'm so glad you felt comfortable enough in the exmormon community to share this intense and lengthy story ❤

@Truthfromthemiddle 8 месяцев назад

Thank you Kim and Josh for sharing your story.

@denisefelton5207 8 месяцев назад

Josh appears to be an outstanding young man, husband and his 100% support for Kim is impressive to be sure!!! Kim is surely a brave young lady with acute insight into her background and upbringing. Appreciate her being so candid and transparent in telling her story. She has given us a rare view behind the scenes into an extreme fundamentalist prepper and far right fringe 'family' environment. Great episode from Mormon Stories 👍

@Robbie_LBL 8 месяцев назад

Kim and Josh are amazing in sharing their vulnerability with all of us. What an incredible strength to have emanating from within! I love the kindness, love, and support they show for one another. I wish them all the happiness and joy!

@NancyPurkelly 5 месяцев назад

I have been a huge Sweet Poppy Fan for a few years now. I just watched part 1, and I'm amazed by the strength of Kim and Josh to share their stories. They had me crying. Wow! Such love between Kim and Josh. I am beyond happy that they found each other and could heal together. ❤

@meganwilliams4588 8 месяцев назад

Listening to josh explain the aftermath of being sent home early made me cry.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

❤️ 🥹 🙏

@jeannemarie5908 8 месяцев назад

@joshcoffinator You are a sensitive, caring, intelligent, insightful young man. You did the right thing by not being a tattle-tale to your mission companions. Their choices ARE between them and God. You chose to value their personal choice, their personal agency and let them guide their futures. Josh, this was a very mature thing to do under the circumstances. I hope you are able to fully take ownership of this very valuable quality. My heart broke for you as you told the story of being in Mexico and being sent home early. I wish you complete healing from the imposed trauma .. it takes time, you will continue to grow. You two are amazing your people.

@brookenitzsche1452 8 месяцев назад

This couple have found their safe place in each other. The way I wanted to jump through the screen and hug this woman was beyond anything I have experienced this far. She is truly an angel! He is the loving teddy bear he so admired on his mission trip. ❤❤

@HelloUser1 8 месяцев назад

I remember my mom telling me that being hypnotized was dangerous because it opened the chance of an evil spirit coming in and taking over. Also remember being told that the millennium would happen in my lifetime. I was born in 1975, so can vouch these were mainstream views in the recent past. Also remember group buy-ins for for storage. We had 5 gallon buckets of flour and wheat and with 2 and 3 liter bottles of water in the garage growing up. I had a lot of fear about nuclear war and famine.

@bernadetteoriordan132 8 месяцев назад

I am Irish and catholic and our education was not really religious and it did not frame my morals or ideas. My personal morals were based on common sense. Treat others the way you would like to be treated. Everyone in this world is conceived the same way so all humans are equal

@LizaFergison 8 месяцев назад

@bernadetteoriorden Same here. I attended convent schools, but they never framed my morals or ideas. Parents taught by example. We were never bullied by religion. I'm shocked at how this woman's father behaved. Nothing Christian in him.

@jenniferflower9265 8 месяцев назад

I just love how you explained your education experience in the Catholic church. I'm glad to know that's how it goes on there.

@raqueacevedo1509 8 месяцев назад

Thank God for my parents who let us be US!!We were raised catholic but we were never censored, all questions were answered they let us enjoy our childhood, they taught us love Jesus by loving, being generous, to be respectful and never judge others.

@MsCaterific 8 месяцев назад

This interview really pulled on my heart strings. I love these 2 humans❣ I'm so humbled by their story. Thank you for your courage and for sharing this highly valuable story. I subscribed to sweetredpoppy on YT. So excited.

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

❤❤❤

@susang4507 8 месяцев назад

I can’t wait to part 2! Isn’t it amazing they found each other?💖 They both have so much love and integrity; and they are growing together.💖

@sharonlain5830 2 месяца назад

The fact that this young man is brought to tears by how he was treated returning from his mission is HEARTBREAKING !!! I have no words for how those people treated him !!

@BH91084 8 месяцев назад

“I’m sorry for what I said when I was Mormon” or even thought, has never rang more true!! I was extremely devout for so long and thought I had righteous judgement in my thoughts and feelings. It’s so painful to look back now at how I must have made others feel less than. I always tried to show compassion but you can’t truly hide judgment. I’ve grown and learned so much but the culture truly has lasting effects on us all.

@kodigemma3359 8 месяцев назад

Kim is such a sweet and vulnerable soul. I wanted so badly to reach out and hug her as she described her childhood. I hope the rest of her life brings her healing and joy. Josh’s caring for his wife shines through. It’s clear that she has found a wonderful partner. I wish them both the best.

@Willow-fs8dq 8 месяцев назад

Heartbroken for this young man. I had the privilege to know 3 Mormon missionary’s at my home, they visited me, and befriended my youngest daughter. I cooked meals for them, and gave them cold drinks when they were in the heat of summer. We sat on my porch and talked about their families, Utah, their mission stories and all they learned. The senior one and I talked about his girlfriend and how much he loved her. How very sweet they were and so spiritual. They talked about their faith and about mine. They befriended my youngest daughter and she converted to the Mormon faith. Our family was at her baptism and her blessing. We supported her in her faith. Before they returned to Utah after their mission, the eldest of them gave me the book of Mormon with marked pages and highlighted scriptures for me. Such a sweet and thoughtful gift. there was one that I knew and he was so homesick that he went home early. I can barely stand that he might have been treated like this young man. God bless them both. ❤

@gracebe235 8 месяцев назад

Oh my! Josh, my heart goes out to you! I have three sons, and I have a soft heart for young men going through what you went through! For you to be judged so wrongly….😢…..so much for this so-called ‘spiritual discernment’ of the elders of the church! I pray that both of you….that ALL who have been scarred by this stupid church, can heal completely! Bless you!

@kristenlee337 8 месяцев назад

I started having severe intrusive thoughts when I was 14. I remember thinking demons were attacking me and religious leaders around me reinforcing this idea. I went undiagnosed for 13 years because of this. After my ocd diagnosis and treatment my suffering dropped off significantly within two months.

@jackieattackie101 8 месяцев назад

Unfortunately I relate so much to the older daughter being brought into the parenting. I also would get sick a lot, probably as a coping mechanism. I have not been through half as much as Kim. She is so brave to talk about it. I love how supportive Josh is ❤❤❤ much love to them both

@gingerhiser7312 8 месяцев назад

As the oldest daughter, the household chores fell to me. I didn't mind doing my parents' laundry because they were my parents and my young sister's laundry because she was younger but I resented doing my older bother's laundry. He was certainly capable of at least doing his own laundry but he was also cruel to me on an almost daily basis and given a pass by our parents.

@Equivocal-squiggle 8 месяцев назад

Grew up in Poky and Rigby. This video is so so impactful to me. My goodness. I will have to watch this a few times.

@jodibauer4742 8 месяцев назад

Give the little child inside of you a huge hug… you are a brave young women… your husband is amazing also… sending good vibes your way🙏🙏🙏 you are braver then you know ❤️❤️❤️

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

❤❤❤

@kristenliberto3201 8 месяцев назад

These two are the sweetest. Thank God for them. The trauma they’ve been through is heart wrenching. I know what they’ve been through has been overwhelming and severely disappointing but thank God their eyes are open at a young age. They can change this for their babies. Prayers and blessings for them ❤

@DeborahLongtin 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing your Mormon Story. It is very sad that families live in such paranoia, fear & shame. Margie is a brilliant supportive therapist. Thank you Margie for finding and sharing the light.

@VMBMoss 8 месяцев назад

I'm an hour and so in, and, One: Lovely woman, looking forward to the rest of her story, and her husbands! Two: Triangulation....I'm shook. I didn't know how to describe being the oldest daughter and the therapist for my mother with her problems with my father., and always having to be perfect, the peacekeeper, and everything for both my parents. Keep in mind, we were not religious, so this does happen everywhere. Thank-you for validating my experiences that weren't great, and I'm still dealing with in my late 30's!

@annafilipski1902 8 месяцев назад

So many Mormon stories match my evangelical upbringing in the 80s and 90s. I have been deconstructing for 20 years but these stories still help so very much. Thank you Josh and Kim for sharing. ❤

@Jo-Elle504 8 месяцев назад

Josh’s mission story also rings true to anyone who failed at something they expected to do and felt shame as a result. I am an older female never lds and I was tearing up along with him. Thank you for sharing that.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you 🥹

@Jo-Elle504 8 месяцев назад

@@joshcoffinator Thank you! It took a lot for you and your amazing wife to share all of that and it is appreciated. I for one was deeply moved by your story.

@marlenemeyer9841 8 месяцев назад

I’m so glad they addressed the issue of purity culture causing young marriage. It’s one of the unhealthy effects of LDS culture.

@spitimalamati 8 месяцев назад

Brother Josh: You served two months longer than those who did the 18-month era. Nice job! If your second mission Pres sincerely regretted his decision to send you home as he did, he could ask the Missionary Department to re-characterize your mission service, even if you are no longer a member.

@francinesanchez5402 8 месяцев назад

I love this idea (if it was still meaningful to Josh and his family)

@TheForestCrone 8 месяцев назад

These purity culture beliefs are so, so dangerous. Like Kim, I was abused after being baptized, and knew absolutely it meant I wouldn't be in heaven with my family. That knowledge of inherent badness and unworthiness was so painful, so wounding, that I quit feeling emotions entirely. I developed alexithymia that took years of therapy to unravel. It's just so damaging. I hope parents are thinking long and hard before conditioning their daughters beliefs around purity. And I'm so glad Kim is healing. I wonder how many tens of thousands of us are coming out of Mormonism this wounded. Entire generations. It's heartening actually, that maybe leaving this belief system and culture gives us a chance to heal and lead fulfilling lives with deeply connected relationships.

@maiathebee410 8 месяцев назад

I loved this story. Both of them were so vulnerable. Josh seems like such a sweet man, and I'm so sorry that his mission was ruined in that way. I am glad he found a loving partner, and glad to see that he gives her love and support in return. A really inspirational couple. I subscribed to their youtube channel

@annjacobs1298 8 месяцев назад

I find the focus on the second coming as a stealer of joy and any sense of hope for the future. If all these horrible things are imminent, how do you possibly have any ability to plan a future that includes love and happiness? How do you make plans for normal human joys when in any moment your reality could change in an instant?

@gracebe235 8 месяцев назад

When I was raped after my husband died, I was almost excommunicated. There was anything BUT support. I can so identify with when you mentioned how your family members questioned how was the girl/woman dressed, etc., as to why she had this happen to her. There is a bias in the church regarding ‘sexual sin’. Men who sexually abuse others, are worked with….their temple recommends are not taken away, etc. But a woman? I was raped and lost my temple recommend, was told not to partake of the sacrament, had to do 100% visiting teaching, and was assigned to read the book; The Miracle Of Forgiveness. That horrible, asinine book, was like rubbing salt into my wounds! When I told an LDS psychologist about all of this, he was incredulous over how I was dealt with by the Bishop. He also said that the Miracle Of Forgiveness book was required reading when he was in young men’s. He said that they thought that they were all going to go to hell, after reading it! It is a HORRIBLE book! To show the picture of Christ on the cover, and call it The Miracle Of Forgiveness, was a twisted form of mental abuse by the church!

@nolinpowe 8 месяцев назад

Watching Josh's story, my heart really goes out for his testimony, but at the same time I am so so glad I did not serve a mission, I feel like the fact I was pushed to serve a mission the first 4 years of being a member and then when i finally buckled down and said no i got resented, I here so many mission stories on this show and it makes me regret I even pressured or pushed people to go to the mormon church

@cindihunter9119 8 месяцев назад

I can relate to this story, in regards to the, "people pleasing aspect." This is attempting to prove our worth to others... It's a sick way of getting approval, which is not healthy! I'm still unlearning things that I learned while growing up in the Mormon church. 🙃

@user-zs7jd7zv7t 8 месяцев назад

What a beautiful couple, very moved by their stories and how brave they are in helping expose the extreme dysfunction of their family/religion. So impressed by how warm they are to each other. So inspired by them.

@TheAngryStage 8 месяцев назад

This episode very much resonated with me. I grew up with a father who was a Prepper. He essentially quit working so he could write 600 book abut how to make your own guns and ammunition. He claimed that god prompted him to build a bomb shelter in our back yard. My dad was preparing us to live in it for a year in the event of a nuclear attack. I lived in a constant state of fear. I didn’t find out until I was an adult that my parents were known around our ward and stake as “Doom and Gloom”.

@lisak5804 8 месяцев назад

35:00 spare the rod, spoil the child" is one of the most misinterpreted versus that parents used. The rod was used by the Shepard to protect the sheep, keep them from danger, gently guide them on the path, and fight off predators. A Shepard would NEVER beat their sheep.

@Maisiewuppp Месяц назад

So true.

@mlmeza 8 месяцев назад

I knew she looked familiar! I follow her content and just started following this channel too. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I’m going through something similar in another organization and have deeply resonated with some points you both made. It’s crazy to realize how many of us have gone through similar life experiences although it may be different religions. I’m so glad you both made it out and have each other’s support through it all. You’ve given me hope that life can go on even after being excommunicated from family and friends. Oh and congrats on the success of your awesome Cricut content 🙌🏽

@SweetRedPoppy 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!! I've also been surprised by just how similar the deconstruction/reconstruction process is for those who have left high-demand religions. We have so many similarities!

@beckyscloud 8 месяцев назад

Josh, I wonder if you've ever realized how incredible it was that you had the courage and integrity to do what you believed was right even in the face of such powerful cult control. I loved that you knew it was not your place to answer for someone else's choices, in spite of the pressure. And I'm also glad you took some time for yourself, rules or no rules. My uncle came home in a straight jacket because his mental health did not hold up as an OCD rule-keeper.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much 🥹 honestly I buried so much of this so deep down that it’s been therapeutic to speak about it again and try and reframe it. Margi was so kind and helpful in that regard ❤️

@JanessaRick 8 месяцев назад

The two of you ( Josh and Kim) are so strong and brave Thank you for sharing and you are so lucky to have each other Inspiring!

@janpascoe7924 8 месяцев назад

Dear Josh and Kim, Thankyou so much for having the courage to share your story. I found it very interesting and enlightening. Wishing you and yours all the very best that life can offer.

@francinesanchez5402 8 месяцев назад

Aww. I cried with Josh at the end. I’m so sorry he was put through this. I do think he was very strong to not put others in a bad position. I love hearing how Kim was able to extend grace in a way that many in her church were unable to. And appreciate the support these two gave each other throughout the interview. I relate to trying to do everything right and it going so so wrong. Looking forward to hearing the rest of this couples’ story. I also love how Margie frames that experience for him, regarding what he truly did learn.

@lacyshoenfelt1620 5 месяцев назад

Wow it took me a few minutes to figure out who they were but I knew immediately I recognized them! She is such a talented lady I love to know their story.

@mykesorange 8 месяцев назад

What a sweet and tender couple. I can just feel their deep sensitivity and kindness.

@joshcoffinator 8 месяцев назад

Wow, so kind! Thank you!

@francinesanchez5402 8 месяцев назад

100%. This is the kind of coupling I’d love for myself or my kids. Having a partner who truly supports you and your growth entirely, cares deeply and is a vulnerable safe spot, knowing the beauty of appreciating imperfection, with love, together. My traumatic upbringing led me to choose an abusive partner. This led to a lot of consequences. Life is a learning journey and I know learning can be painful. But having a true partner by your side through it is a wonderful gift. ❤️

@lorawhitfield6995 8 месяцев назад

Great episode…looking forward to part 2. Grateful they are willing to share their stories. They are such lovely humans and a sweet couple. Kim - as a crafter and quilter I’m looking forward to checking out your channel!

@AWJ-zf8cf 8 месяцев назад

Found you from Jessie Hildebrant interview! What a great interview. My maternal grandmother is Helen Coffin from Idaho! I have heard all Coffins are related somehow. I was born Mormon but my parents got out when I was in grade school. I am in Vancouver Washington

@melissagephardt5387 День назад

We were stationed in Idaho in the Air Force for 4 years, and it was 4 of the worst years of my life. It was very evident that we were being excluded by the locals often because we weren't Mormon. That's when I learned that Mormonism is so much more than religion--it is very much a culture, or it was there in that area of Idaho.