Ironically, his points have only gotten stronger over the years. A shame few are as intelligent as they are wealthy...too many wealthy squander the opportunity to champion a true vision. House knows how to play the game long-term. The legion is way too short term, and the NCR plays too slow a game for either side. We got shot in the head twice, competent though we may be for an independent future.
@@JimboMarsh Which is why either a Monarchy or Republic is best. It’s evident most humans don’t really care/think of bigger things like helping an entire country or realizing compromise is necessary to achieve it, they simply care for themselves and what will benefit them. Most people need a leader who can make decisions for them, but, with power comes a grand responsibility of not abusing it. It’s what America needs today, a person with a stout vision and a want to help people regardless of bribes or threats, and one who will actually focus on us, rather than other countries. Every country has a “parent”, so why should the USA act as if a parent is needed?
I just love the way he says “Would Kimball and Oliver traded the lives of hundreds of soldiers for absolute control of Hoover Dam? Oh yes.” It’s funny because it is definitely true despite how much Kimball and Oliver might try to hide it
Another thing I love about New Vegas is that it rewards the player for actually using their brain.Fallout 4 just has you running around shooting things and going from point A to B.In New Vegas and even in a lot of quest in Fallout 3 there are multiple ways to approach a quest.This probably isn’t the best example but take the mission that Colonel Moore of the NCR gives to you that has you wipe out the brotherhood of steel.You can do as she asks and either kill them yourself or activate the self destruct sequence in their bunker, after doing all their quests and becoming a member of the brotherhood you can tell Elder McNamara that the NCR wants to destroy them and he will offer a truce to the NCR in exchange they will send troops out to support them at Hoover Dam, or you can just avoid all of that and work with Yes Man so you can just leave them alone.But the sheer number of options you have.As well as when you meet Benny.You can kill him right then and there, in his suite,if you a female you can have sex with him and kill him in his sleep, you can let him run off and get captured at the fort with the platinum chip and then you get to decide how you want him to die, or you can decide to work with him.Those aren’t even all the options to the side quest either.And some outcomes of quest don’t even get labeled in your pip boy
@@mateoreyes6921 yeah I wish there were easier ways to sort things out rather then fighting.I mean it’s not some video game where you get to confront the final boss.Like Franklin Roosevelt wasn’t gonna speech check Hitler into stoping the Holocaust but I feel like there are other ways to resolve conflicts other than fighting or even talking.It’s just sad seeing some of the conditions veterans come home to as well, these people have been most likely scarred for life from things they have seen and yet they can’t even get a thank you.I always make sure to respect veterans or even serving soldiers because they have a lot more damn courage then I could dream of having.
@@noahhamel6689 they give you so many ways to handle problems, you can be a confirmed bachelor to get Benny or you can just wait for him to be in the legion camp. The game is entirely fine with you just killing everyone you meet. Part of RPGs is giving the player options on how they want to solve problems and NV gives massive amounts of options. Also it's nice that no character is essential and anyone you come across can be killed and the game will still work. Quests may break, but the player should understand that's just how it goes if you kill the quest giver.
@@noahhamel6689 I like the fact that getting the Brotherhood to ally with the NCR actually gets you INFAMY with the NCR rather than Fame, because the NCR don't like the Brotherhood and Colonel Moore hates the idea of not only working with the people who've spent years fighting them but also having to sift through a mountain of paperwork and alliance treaties and stuff.
House is a very compelling character, a skilled salesman and businessman, and a technological genius. He can be a blessing for the Mojave ... but also a huge threat. I think the pivotal factor is the Courier. The Courier must be someone who holds House accountable, who challenges him, and who is not afraid of speaking against House if his moves become questionable. After all, House is a single human being. Human beings can lose their way, no matter how brilliant they are. That's why a wise ruler is fully OK with constructive and honest criticism.
@@Ketaruz Yeah, if the ending slides are anything to go by Mr. House appears to allow himself to be flexible for the Courier's wishes. Just the fact that a negative Karma Courier has a different result for the wasteland than positive Karma with Mr. House shows he respects Courier Six as his right hand man.
@@LordSerion because both Ulysses and House want the old world to finally die. The difference between them is that Ulysses goes full "return to monke" (the only system he doesn't explicitely reject is the primitive tribes system he was born in) when House goes Imperium of Man.
@@TheZeroHeader i think it's more canonically your a 10 in intelligence like him so like his competitors before the war he sees you as a equal but unlike his competitors you help his goals making him think ah iv got a smart capable agent who i like and can hold a decent intellectual convo with.
The Master : I want to unite the wasteland by turning everybody into extremely resilient super mutants The Enclave : We want to purge all mutated life and rebuild Elder Lyons : I realized that the Brotherhood of steel is the only hope for the Capital Wasteland, so we abandoned our primary mission to help Mr. House : I want to create a luxurious city state in order to get the funding necessary to start making scientific progress so humanity will have a future Shaun : S-Shut up dad its too complicated for you to understand why I want to replace everybody with robots! Stop asking me why we punish the robots we programmed to show emotion for showing emotion!
@@Justaguywithglassesok and voiced protagonist's in fallout is kinda bad imo. At least they could've done what the guise who made saints row did and have a few different voices.
@@coromo4978 You're thinking of anarchism, which diverges from libertarianism on the question of capitalism. To a modern libertarian, Mr. House is expressing his individuality to the fullest, having full right to use his private property however he chooses to. It really depends if you see him as an unusually powerful businessman or a de facto government.
@@albertskoften1452 hes a businessman. He made the strip, he made the securitrons, he made new vegas what it is. The strip belongs to him, like he says. It just so happens that people made houses near his property and consents to live under HIS authority. (My house MY rules) I fully support House in wanting to enforce his sovereignty from foreign powers that want to take it away like the Legion and the NCR There is no rule that says a businessman can't fill the role as a government leader. Mr house also isn't a dictator, he won't dictate what you do in your life. He will leave you alone and let you fall into a drug addiction for all he cares, just as long as you don't touch his stuff.
For a man far from political, one that would be probably be described with the words libertarian or anarchist, who worries more about how I can help this world and it’s people over what life I really end up with; I’d back this dude in a heartbeat if I was the courier. For one single man he holds true to his end goal, and his choices really do reflect someone using logic and progress over someone wanting to just hurt, kill or become deified. Where every faction is trying to win a war Mr. House was the only one that isn’t. NCR and Legion would have you kill him for their own greed. House just wants to control New Vegas and wants the ability to protect it. House knows he’s of high value (one of the actual best, last hope for humanity) and doesn’t want to lose all that he worked for or the opportunity to help save the world. Kid me went NCR because I couldn’t kill the BoS. But adult me knows the BoS are shitbags that sing a good tune and the NCR are no better than my own government that I’m beginning to despise. I killed the only dude in game who was more of a main character than the courier as a child.
This is how you write bonus dialog in games. Not only does it establish houses motives, beliefs, and ultimate goals, it gives you insight into the political interactions between the factions of the Mojave and expands the overall lore of the game. I miss details like this in an age of “another settlement of featureless NPCs needs your help”
This is an age of "Another settlement needs your help"? Dude fallout 4 came out 5 years ago. One game with lackluster dialogue dosent erase the many dialogue heavy games out there, you just havent been looking hard enough.
SerNoddicusTheGallant I was more showing appreciation for the writing in NV then trying to shit on Fallout 4 or say they don’t make games with good dialogue anymore.
@@Evildandalo that's because they didn't make NV, obsidian games did. They did better than Bethesda ever will and that's just the sad truth considering they'll likely never work with each other again. Obsidian games has plenty of other rpgs but we won't have a fallout again.
"Nor have I any interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah." Me if I was House: From the moment I realized the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
"Is a man not entitled to the sweat upon his brow? No, says the man in Shady Sands, it belongs to his government, to the bureaucrats! No, says the man in Flagstaff, it belongs to his Lord, his King! No, says the man in the Hidden Valley, it belongs to his uplifted betters, to the chosen elite! I chose something different. I chose... New Vegas!"
And to add to the joke, Mr. House was voiced by Rene Auberjonois while Andrew Ryan was voiced by Armin Shimerman, who starred together on _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ as the mutual antagonists of Constable Odo and Quark respectively.
I would also say it is an incorrect statement by Mister House, the people of the Pre-War America did not vote to drop the bombs. It was the competition between rival powers over dwindling resources and it was their access to such weapons that allowed them to destroy the world, not that they were democratic or a dictatorship. And despite his claims that is all they are, he says he can do what he can do but if he were always right then he wouldn't have miscalculated the day the nukes were fired. And to be fair, its not like anyone will be able to hold him to that promise once he is in control of Hoover Dam and the Strip.
Considering it took less than 100 years from the first powered aircraft to the moon landings Mr. House's plan of space colonization in 100 years is surprisingly feasible as fallout tech goes
Plus considering that he will eventually have access to the platinum chip's design outside the data it has, It's not too farfetched that technology such as transistors could be reversed engineered and be integrated to what technology they have in new Vegas
House is the perfect autocrat, his situation and personality leave him with no desire other than his dream of sheer progress, and he has the pragmatism to rule from a position like thst but the ideals to maintain his principles
He is great...if you're in his inner-circle of people who matter. FreeSide is evident of what Mr. House truly cares about, being himself and the progress of his vision.
Except he isn't a perfect autocrat, as demonstrated by the destruction of the Brotherhood of Steel, and he's too arrogant to acknowledge this fact. Its really a coin flip whether he will be humanities saviour or its damnation.
@@jimmy_james0007 when I say perfect autocrat I don't mean that I agree with every last decision but that he is totally incorruptible in his actions, every group he wipes out isnt from some sense of conquest but instead from them being a genuine threat due to ideological differences, it doesnt take his computers calculating the probability of brotherhood conflict as a result of his expansion to see that it's pretty much inevitable after the house ending if they aren't dealt with
@@jimmy_james0007 The reason why House wants you to kill them is because he knows they are religiously obsessed with hoarding dangerous technology, specifically weapons and defensive technology (e.g. Power Armor). He points out to you that if they were obsessed with collecting other tech like Auto-docs and other tech that isn't involved in warfare he wouldn't be worried about them so much. He sees it as a necessity to wipe them out because he knows that The Strip would be like the candy store for the Brotherhood as it's filled to the brim with weapons and other tech that House knows the Brotherhood would not hesitate to wipe out or steal from him. So they must be destroyed; just take a look at the Boston chapter of the Brotherhood in Fallout 4 to see exactly what I mean.
My God, this is one of the moments in videogames I wish to live twice. I remember I've been speaking with House and dicking around Lucky 38 for almost two hours when I first played NV. Glad that now there's a chance that Microsoft might put Obsidian boys on another Fallout project
@@IcanSeeU0_0 Come on, it was not that bad. A disappointment for sure, and little replay value, but it was a decent game. It just lacked that "oomp" we expected from the same people who created the original Fallout and NV.
I love the confidence and the trust between the Courier and Mr. House. He's willing to tell you every bit of his plan and trust that you'll carry it out, with the confidence that you'll get it done right. Obsidian did such a great job with this story.
Good writing, actually logical and reasonable morally grey dialogue and atmosphere/art direction will ALWAYS trump raw graphical power. FACT. Prove me wrong, you can't. Tech demos come and go but great stories and characters have never failed to stand the test of time. "If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows..." God DAMN.
"Prive me wrong, you can't" No statement should ever go unchallenged. This is charismatic dialog, but House's actions show he isn't to be really trusted.
@@ShadowSonic2 @Schlock Jocks How so? Sure he's not a goody-two shoes sait, nor is he the devil. House grew up from an orphan and nobody into one of the brightest minds humanity ever had. A little bit of ego, but if I achived what House did I would have that ego too. He has a long term plan and solution to humanity's problem, immune to corruption while retaining his humanity. He's talking about colony ships while others bicker over a barren dustbowl! House takes care of the Legion and BoS, while solving the NCR's imperialistic expansion problem thats been crippling its economy. Kimball gets booted from office, Lee Oliver gets discharged and Cassandra Moore is put on a leash. Those soldiers finally get sent back home to their families and they can focus on strenghtening their territory and economy instead of stretching out far past their reach. House eventually rebuilds Vegas to its former glory with a good karma Courier keeping him in check as mentioned in the ending slideshow. House isn't perfect. He's not a saint nor the devil, and he can come off as cold and ruthless at times, but he's the best choice we have available. He never killed anyone directly either. Only driving off raiders, khans and tribals from Vegas. Worst thing he's ever done is fill the lower levels of Vault 21 with concrete. And compared to the other faction heads? House might as well be a saint.
@@dinoluka11 “he’s never killed anyone directly” aside from forcing the courier to kill the entire mojave chapter of the brotherhood of steel if you want to continue his questline. forget about that part?
@@yourehereforthatarentyou Who cares about Brotherhood of Steel anyway? They are a big group of arrogant thieves that don't do anything but hoard and steal technologies for their personal use.
Mr house is one of the most well written characters in not just gaming but entertainment as a whole. And the way Rene delivers the lines of dialogue make it even better house is a fascinating character and easily my favorite out of any fallout game.
The sad fact is House technically is the better option. Yes he's bleeding the NCR dry, but Ceasars Legion is no more, the NCR still exists, and the money they pour in actually does contribute to a rebuilding program. Sure places like Freeside suffer in the short term, but I doubt that House would let that continue for very long. After all, a rejuvenated Freeside has the potential for even more customers, and more customers = more money.
Yeah, I honestly feel like with time Vegas would eventually look how it did back in the day. If this game was made on current gen consoles, I feel like it would have very few broken down buildings and show a legit decent city. The limits of back then wouldnt let us see that
I’d say NCR is still the best option House only really cares about the Strip and what’s making him money, he doesn’t care about the surrounding areas unless it’ll make him money, whereas the NCR is willing to work with other factions, including those they usually fight against, for things that involve the entire Mojave wasteland
What does House do to the Kings if they work out a cease fire with the NCR? Not an alliance, just a general amicable coexistence? He has them all murdered. People who claim that House is the better option don't understand that he his far from as dispassionate as he likes to pretend. I'm not going to say the NCR is perfect, as it has its own corruption and evil inherent in it, but I think it's the best of the choices availible.
Mr House is a man that could be compared to the player going down a realistic path of some sort of civilization game. He has no interest in being worshipped or just having power. He's trying to rekindle humanity, and his belief is that earth has had its time, and colonies on other systems is the correct course. The NCR, Legion and their war are in his eyes no different than the ones that doomed the planet to nuclear hell. They follow the same path, and both have the same problems, both morally and functionally. But they are a threat the same, regardless of what either side believes. Mr. House sits on a very precarious position of essentially entrusting whoever puts the game in to trust that he is a good guy, regardless of how much he may seem like some big cold billionaire Capitalist only in anything for the money.
Only problem is that the tunnelers will ruin his plans when they get to New Vegas, personally I think the best option there is for New Vegas is to exterminate the Legion and to keep House and the NCR together until they can find a way to eradicate the tunnelers, then kick the NCR out.
I think he's right. If people stay on Earth after something like Fallout happens even if they manage to actually formulate a functioning, normal society from the wreckage they'll never escape the long term spiritual, cultural, enviromental and fracturing damaged it caused. It would be a world of anarchist and survialist playing at something they are not. Many who know they can return to indepedence and who's very destroyed world is at the fault of entrusting powers outside themselves. Colonies are the way to go. A restart. A new city with a new identity.
@@OfficialFedHater Problem with that is the NCR is not much different than the Legion and will run House over if necessary tontheir expansionism. They're like early democracy, with all the flaws of said early democracy. For it's citizens its great since they have rights and representation through the government and freedoms. If you're not part of the NCR however, then you're as fair game as any petty fiend gang that roams the wastes, regardless of what partnership can benefit the two. I'm sure House would side with the NCR if they weren't both sitting on such a vital resource; Hoover Dam. The NCR see House as a threat and despite not beating the game I'm pretty sure both the Legion and NCR have House killed to acomplish their goals. They are both relics of a bygone era that have run their course and failed. As House even says, if you wish to see the work of Democracy's; look out the window. Referring to the idea that because of being democratic the NCR is somehow good. They're repeating History, and talking to house reveals that if either faction were to secure power over the other, House would be close behind. Joining together is out of the question. Whatever partnerships they have are as deep as they'll run. Mutual benefit that I would compare to the Molotov - Ribbentrop pact of the Second world war: An uneasy and not so friendly aggreement that is really just a formal "We're at peace for now."
@@anicjan4654 Technically the world should have been clean some 150 years prior. But the radiation seems to persist. Otherwise with House at the helm it would be relatively easy to rebuild society. But with two powerhungry factions at odds with each other, and House's damn caught in the middle; he sits in an unfortunate position.
@@radioactiverat8751 They're literally working together before the end of the game though, and with the divide fucked, they have a very long supply chain, House could easily remove them from the Mojave with his upgraded securitrons, especially if he uses them to help clear out the tunneler threat.
This is the sort of nuance in storytelling and interactions that only Obsidian could do and Bethesda struggles to emulate, or outright removed with its linear dialogue system of "Happy, Aggressive, Questioning and Sarcastic" options. You ask an NPC additional questions, and you get to the root of their motives, their character, their worldview and their goal. The NCR is a corrupt bureaucratic faction that seeks the dependency of its civilians to keep them in check, and power to dominate. The Legion is a dictatorship that lives and dies on the ideals of Caesar, cruel and harsh on the outside but ultimately seeks a return of morality, and subsequent morality policing, with the goal to uplift humanity. House is a wildcard with a vision for a sustainable future, not the most powerful of the three but well versed in power playing and political manoeuvring. Calculating that a war with the NCR would be a pyrrhic victory, and they would subsequently lose to the Legion. That he can then leverage that risk to the NCR to his advantage, to remain independent without the need to fight for it and even benefit with the repair of Hoover Dam and the economic boom. He is clever. You learn that all through simple conversation. Fallout 4 lacks any of it and its all speculation. If you side with The Institute, does the Institute then open its doors and use its advanced tech to aid The Commonwealth? If you side with The Railroad, do they have any long term vision after the destruction of all the other factions? If you side with the Enclave 2.0 Brotherhood of Steel, would that make life worse living under the thumb of Maxon? The only sure bet is The Minutemen and they are by far the most boring of the lot. That game desperately needed a continuation or aftermath of the main story DLC and they never bothered. There is even cut content that the initial draft had an option to challenge Maxon for leadership of the Brotherhood using an old, unused rule to depose an Elder through combat... And they removed it. An option that could've made the Brotherhood a serious choice with the possibility of another Elder Lyons leadership.
Very true. Let’s not forget about Obsidian’s new RPG The Outer Worlds though. The Board had zero nuance to them, they were just evil business men with no justification...
Best explanation I got from them was “the colony’s going to shit might as well ride it out in luxury”. The quest choices kinda sucked as well. Most from what I remember had a clear best choice with little down sides...
@Friendly Neighbourhood Sun Wheel It's still a good game honestly. I just really didn't like the Board, and some of the choices in it. It was basically if you had a high speech skill everything works out for everyone (kinda like Bethesda fallouts lol)
I mean House is fucked as it seems his plan was to use the NCR as his customer base and without the NCR it seems that his plans have no way of happening they probably will make his ending cannon in attempt to explain the fall of the NCR much better also probably somehow saying he didn't expect the NCR was going to collapse the TV show seems to be setting up that the west coast is the East Coast in which everything is rickety shaqs like in DC and Boston
@@evanthompson7494exactly. I think season 2 is gonna show branches of the NCR in NV/the Mojave, the NCR had gotten too big at that point to be completely gone just because shady sands was nuked
@@jackdubs25 I can imagine it either being severely weakened and shrinking significantly thanks to greedy neighbours, or splitting into north/south baja/san francisco republic deal
The sole problem with benevolent dictators is that the greatest of works can be undone in a day by a single incompetent heir. Robert E. House fixed that problem
He's right(or more realistically.. well written). You build up an empire through consumerism. People work hard to play hard. Once people can start having time off instead of being in the grind, economies always take off. Time off to spend and also time off to innovate for ways for consumers to spend on you. That's how you get a strong nation. Now that doesn't mean that consumerism is the ideal society, it's just how to get a strong empire fast. It feeds off of human nature. Nations built on ideals over nature are always doomed to fail, even if the ideal is better.
@@benscarbrough3986 That implies he would still be alive to oversee them. Mr House shares one fatal flaw with Ceasar. Whatever longetivity treatment he has is not perfect and he would eventually die. Once he is gone, the vision of that glorious future is gone. There have been a handful of competent rulers in history (King Matthias Hunyadi, or known in the west as Matthias Corvinus comes to mind for my home), and their deaths often result in things falling apart quickly afterwards, when there is nobody as competent to fill the void they are leaving, as whatever ruling body is left behind usually gets too comfortable with the good ruler to handle a bad, or even just a not as good one.
@@fatfuck2384 Outer Worlds ain't that bad... I really like the priest companion and I totally lost it with the dumb suicide ending of the game lol I wish they did more, the real problem is that it's too short and too small (I also want to know what happened to Earth damnit)
@@ajmari9585 embargo the supplier of water and electricity? Oh that won't be very popular in NCR no no no Any administration that did that would immediately be thrown from office
@@rejvaik00 The problem with that theory is that the Hoover Dam is more a luxury than necessity. Remember, the NCR has only been in control of the dam for 7 years or so, and the NCR was doing VERY well before discovering the dam, the water seems mostly used for the Mojave operations like the sharecroppers and the dam isn't the only form of electricity. We see generators powering lights and equipment all over NCR camps, luxury, not a necessity, and if House price gauges like he plans too, would be an easy rallying cry to embargo, NCR can go far longer without the dam than House can without the NCR it seems.
It doesn't make sense, he seems to forget that he doesn't have power as much as what he has before the great war, before the war he was a billionaire and probably one of the richest man on earth, but after the war? All he got is a bunch of securitrons a few casino, sure it make sense for him to turn New Vegas into Las Vegas in a few decades, but his idea to go space is crazy.
The irony is that house victory is a better ending for the NCR than NCR victory House’s victory would develop the NCR even more and stop its overexpension policies while slowly turning it into an advanced civilization where peoples no longer struggle to get food but instead strive to get entertainment
@Yourtuytr 2 Its not but its better than living in craphole wasteland And its also a chance to go forward and build solid foundations. House living is more beneficial to the NCR than NCR continuing to overexpend until it grows to a bloating size and explode in multiple warring states.
@@KalashVodka175 And thats why House ending with good NCR reputation is best ending)) And also good karma,but sadly gonna need to make Kings fight against NCR tho
@@skell6134 In the grand scheme of things, it's a few lives that ensure a better outcome and the NCR couldn't care less about that little program, as far as the top brass was concerned, it was just a fool's errand. The NCR people knew what they signed up for.
@@combinecommando001s house said himself on a different dialogue option chain in time the whole affair will be remembered simply as Kimball's foolish misadventure and life would continue on as usual
Mr. House raises a lot of good points that make him one of the best characters throughout the Fallout series. He doesn't want to build an empire across a broken nuclear wasteland and instead, wishes to make a new home away from it all based on technology and advancement. He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest characters in gaming and factions in Fallout.
@@gorillagaming8722 it's just as bad as being burdened with heavy taxation while having the illusion of freedom. At least the Legion and Mr. House are clear about their goals and vision of the future. The NCR just beats around the bush.
I mean under a man like house it seams like a good idea but realistically what is stopping the man in charge from abusing his power for his personal goal with no way to get him out of office and with no opposition to stand against him I mean look what happened in Germany and the USSR
Mr. House is a pretty reasonable character. All he really wants is control of the Vegas Strip and for people to have somewhere comfortable to spend their money and feel safe. Yeah, he's a capitalist from the Old World, but he was also the only one at the table who didn't waste any resources trying to protect at least a portion of humanity. He went all in.
I always saw the potential of house abusing his power one day or being clouded with the desire to grow farther than he can eventually handle but he is definitely the best choice for the Mojave. I’d continue as to why but the other great people of the comment section has already talked about it
i doubt it if hes even prone to abusing power or clouded judgment, hes 200++ years old and knows what hes doing. the main negative side of house is that he is claustrophobic for new vegas
@@totmgsrockxd9900 again he has already lived for almost 3 centuries. He fricking survived the resource war, survived the death of his physicality, he survived the nuclear bombs that destroyed the planet, he survived the fallout, and will continue living and surviving because he has a plan to maintain himself from the beginning of it all. Hes not going to die by accident he has calculated all the risks. Its just that the courier is the hand of god that we are able to kill him
“You’re free to live on my property and do as you please; so long as you don’t touch my stuff nor get in my way” I can live with that. While he cares about the Strip, the Strip is the people and he knows he still needs to not rule over them directly or the way they live. They just don’t have a say when it comes to bills.
I mean, he can look like a crazy man that want vegas for himself, but is the only one that now how keep it running, and he is right, the democracy don't work
Mateo Reyes Democracy can work in some cases, but it sure as hell cant work in a Post Apocalyptic World. The people don’t know what they even want except survival in that setting. They aren’t looking for advancement like House is. A few might be but not everyone.
Its obvious that he was gonna go off the rails (In one way or another) with all the power he woupd eventually gain. BUT the sole survivor being alive and his close confidante, while also having many close they themselves coule help steer house to keep to his true vision
for those who want to listen to more "House" watch Star Trek deep space 9. Unfortunately he passed away though. Was hoping we could meet house again in a sequel down the road
R.I.P René Auberjonois (1940-2019), the voice actor of Mr House. Rene nailed his performance of Mr House who shows a business like tone yet he is passionate of New Vegas.
That's what i love about New Vegas. Every faction has tangible pros and cons and no one is in the right. NCR could claim New Vegas if they wanted to, but then they would be crushed by Legion so no one oversteps their welcome. Though i really wish there was a companion with ties to the Legion. As is we got 2 NCR, 1 Followers, 1 Brotherhood and 2 neutral while it's already almost impossible to side with Legion prior to meeting Ceasar.
Ulysses was meant to be a Legion affiliated companion but he was cut out from the base game and put into the Lonesome Road DLC. There are also a few Legion modded companions as well if you don't mind going the modded route.
The problem is that the legion's society is totalitarian which means that individuals who embrace such ideology would never want to pursue something that isn't the will of the legion. The only way a legion affiliated follower would have worked would be if caesar ordered them to follow us
Listening to the dialogue after watching his small tine in the TV show reinfoces to me the show nailed House. Its ashame Rene Aburjnois passed away I'd have loved for him to voice house in season 2.
"Not have I any Interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah" Bound to machinery that keeps them alive Sealed in towering structure within an urban center Trying to put humanity on a path of prosperity House and the God-Emperor seem to have a few things in common
Excerpt from the Emperor's conversation with Uriah Olathaire, Priest of the Church of the Lightning Stone, the last church on Terra. Big E: "Nothing of such grand scale can be achieved without a singular vision at its heart, least of all the reconquest of the Galaxy." Uriah :"Didn't you just tell me of the bloody slaughters perpetrated by crusaders? Doesn’t that make you no better than the holy men you were telling me about?" Big E: "The difference is I know I am right." It's no coincidence House prefers to call himself "Autocrat". He and the Emperor of Mankind are one and the same.
I feel like people assume that because his flaws are not as readily visible as those of the NCR or Legion, House is somehow better than them. In the end, I can't honestly say I think he is. He's got a clear plan, unlike the NCR, and it isn't built on cult-of-personality like Caesar's, but these very things are what make the plan brittle. His plan functions just as well without him, and it's only his conceit that makes him believe he's necessary for it. And, beyond that, his own disinterest in the very people he's supposed to be ruling leads him to repeatedly alienate his subjects and miss vital information. It's safe to assume Benny and the Omertas won't be isolated incidents, where his own callous disregard would have lead to his downfall without the courier.
This is true, however unlike the other two, he does have the means and experiance to grow far larger and bring his subjects higher than the NCR or Caesar's legion can with their own
Oh, give me a disinterested ruler any time. His plan still needs the stability i would want from a regime in a post apocaliptic wasteland, but none of the "great ideas" you usually get from despots and mobs of idiots voting for those sharing their retarded ideologies and religions that they think you should also have, no matter what you think about it. The worst rulers, are usually the ones who are very much interested in their subjects, and are fully convinced that them forcing their ideal for how your life should look like is in your best interest, and their duty. All the worst atrocities in history were done by people who thought they are doing it for some greater good.
Doesn't his plan involve a "technological and economic visionary" though? There aren't so many of those and particularly not one who is impervious to other corrupting influences who would not tell people how to lead their private lives, who would focus on the long-term goal and not short-term personal gain. Take humanity back into orbit within 50 years. That is him. At least according to him it is. The question is do you believe him? But that is not a plan, on those terms, that functions without him (or someone like him - and is there someone else like him?).
@@darkwingduke1631 Yep , I think it's an interesting question whether his plan would work. I quite like House. I just thought it was perhaps not accurate to say "His plan functions just as well without him". It seems to me he is pivotal to it.
In the show, House is the only one who openly doesn't want to participate. He undermines the others in the room. He's a man of big ego and the show shows that with just a few seconds
I could never understand why John Caleb Bradburton, the “inventor” of Nuka Cola never went to see Mr House in the first place. This is a man who has not only succeeded in keeping his entire body (somewhat) preserved and functional, but also utilises an army of robots to maintain control over the Strip. John could have negotiated with House for a similar setup in Nuka World, instead of spending 200 years looking at the same three walls within his personal vault as a head in a jar.
John probably didn't know about how House had gotten the man/machine interface working properly. Remember, the Military deliberately screwed Bradburton. Shane they didn't realize they could have worked together. House's Securitrons armed with the Nuka Weaponry Bradburton created would have meant New Vegas would have always been powerful enough for independence.
You've been swayed by his charisma, which is the point of the character. His actual intentions and actions are far from this idealism that seeps from his words.
@@Drumpro31 he sees people as tools, similar to his robots (and vice versa, with treating Jane like a human) - to be used and discarded if they're no longer useful - as he does with the gamblers who are out of caps on the strip. He uses the fiends for his own goals - to distract NCR and create a scare, a boogeyman, to force people into paying for safety on the Strip. He has no interest beyond earning caps and pursuing his vision. He doesn't help Freeside or Westside or anyone else - even though he has the resources, he just doesn't care. Anything and anyone that doesn't serve or isn't useful to his plan is not important to him. I'd argue that even if he had unlimited money he'd not rebuild Freeside, so that the gamblerd coming into the strip will be more grateful for the safety and will appreciate everything more. He might even be using the "walk through Freeside" as a suspension bridge effect, in order to create more demand for safety, just like what he uses the fiends for. It's even mentioned in the new vegas radio. He'll work you to your physical and mental limits (just look at Michaelangelo) and when you're no longer useful he'll dump you. He'll say things like "i don't care about being worshipped as some machine god messiah" and "im impervious to such things" but his obituary and his general actions stand very much in the contrary to these words - he deems himself the master of the human race. If you choose House, he'll likely do what he said he would. He'll return to the ways of the old world, reignite technology research and colonize other planets. But it'll come at a cost of humanity being his plaything. There's a reason why he collects the snowballs after all.
"Nor have I any interest in being worshiped as some kind of Machine God Messiah...." 100 years later: "All hail the Omnisiah! Blessed be the Machine spirit! House: "God damn it...."
Not gonna lie, his words are like honey. He paints a very attractive picture. He means it too. Makes me wonder why he's treated like the bad guy. *Oh yeah.* what he did to the Kings and the Brotherhood. Oh well, as they say when you're making the mother of all omelets ya can't fret over every egg.
He's still a tyrant and that rubs us in the west the wrong way. But he is a Tyrant with a real vision, and the capacity to execute on it. In a world with horrible choices, it's not the worst you can do. Also - I believe going with Mr. House actually benefited the NCR. Their reactionary leader and imperialist tendencies would have been contained by scandal, and new leaders who are a bit less foolish would have a chance to rise, and in canon lore - this did occur. Kimbal lost the election, and the NCR stopped recklessly expanding. While he was mocking democracies here - the main benefit of democracies is they can evolve. If you embarrass or humiliate or defeat them - the nation is capable of learning and improving.
House is the best hope not only for Vegas, but humanity entirely. He has already proven his feats in a short time while awake and he has advanced humanity ten fold while he was a regular guy before the bombs dropped. Almost every piece of technology was created by him. He truly is the Tony Stark on his universe. As Mr. House, he basically is like Iron Man where he uses his knowledge to do superhuman feats. I feel that his ego and pride and narcissist views will actually benefit humanity. His army of robots can wipe out Raiders and the wildlife, he can conduct farms and purify the water, he can seek to rebuild his state and then move onto other areas of the country. No one else can pull any of this off. NCR and Legion are big players in a large sea. They can only hope to sustain what is already there and yet they can't start over like House can. Like I said, he isn't perfect and yet none are when there's a world of radiation, brutal killers, no organized law enforcement, and mutated creatures where rats are the size of dogs.
A lot of that comes from the voice acting, imo. Some of the Bethesda Characters are pretty good too, but poor acting undercuts them. The great acted ones come off as quite enjoyable even if they aren't that deep.
What he basically wants for New Vegas is some kind of transform into Night City, but with more ambitions for colonization of other planets. That city is ruled by corporations.
"If you want to see the fate of democracies, look out the windows." He's not wrong, but that is one COLD thing to say. And you know, kinda relevant at the moment.
Yeah, I'm not sure whether democracy can be entirely blamed for the nuclear war. It's not as if the people of America democratically elected to nuke themselves.
Yah, no. Ulysses is right, House can't stop living in the past, nothing new would come from him. He'd just become more paranoid and kill and oppress more people until that golf club shows up.
I killed him on my first playthrough; but after learning he's stories, lore and a few talks to the others...This cyborg just wanted to protect his home, legacy and reignite progress.
"Not have I an interest in being worshipped as some kind of machine god messiah. I am impervious to such corrupting ambitions" Words of a guy who's set themselves up to be a machine god messiah who's plently pervious to corrupting ambitions
