Motivated me to look at mine now! 43,000 on the clock with no catch can so will be interesting to see if there’s really that much more than what you’ve got! I’ll let you know 🤙🏻
Thank you for the great vid and showing the actual build up. Would be great to see the suggested video on the Triton owned by a relative as well for comparison 👍. Would be great if there is a way to find a Triton running with a catch can to be reviewed by yourself in the same manner. Thanks again, awesome vid!
There is a lot of crank case vapour pumped through the intake system. I have a MQ Triton and have fitted a Mann and Hummel catch can at 1500km. This has a filter cartridge that filters down to microns. It catches about 80ml every 5000km. So having done about 60000km it has taken out a litre of oil. The intake at the turbo that the factory breather hose goes into is completely clean and has no sign of any oil. The biggest problem with oil going though the system is in the intake manifold when it mixed with the soot from the EGR and bakes onto the intake manifold and intake ports. This is especially a problem in direct injection engines as there is no fuel vapour in the intake system.
All that oil residue you looked at is not the sludge issue and will no build up. its only at the point in the intake manifold where to EGR comes into play that issues start occurring. that oil residue mixes with the soot from the exhaust and build up. have a deeper look should be just after the throttle plate.
Agreed, a flash tune closing the egr valve under all but warm up conditions works better. high detergent dpf safe engine oil from the pcv system actually keeps the intake pretty clean once the egr soot can no longer get in there.
If you were planning on disposing of the vehicle before around 100,000 km, there's probably no need for a catch can. The effects of not having one will ultimately be an issue for the subsequent owner.
I have done 150000kms no catch can, regular service and it's all running fine. Yes with modern engines there will be some oil residue in the system but sometimes I think owners are becoming paranoid and fixing problems that dont really exist
Yeah mate, you said it: 'You think", how about some examples: my mate had an ex-Telstra Hilux with the 1KD-FTV 3l Diesel. Steel canopy full of landscaping tools and towed a heavy trailer all the time. That thing almost choked to death, the intake manifold was choc-a-bloc with that sooty gunk, it went from barely driving to the best its ever been. - 240k odo. My ZD30 Patrol, I cleaned it out, intake ports about halfway blocked, EGR valve & throttle choked. New injectors, 20 cans of degreaser, brake & carby cleaner, whole system cleaned out and I can take hills in a higher gear and I don't have a smoke cloud following me like a steam train. 185,000km. This is not a 10 minute job. Many other cases, Hiaces, Isuzu NPR, Isuzu Dmax. Maybe it depends on how its been driven, service history, where it goes and what it pulls, maybe it depends on how its been idling, on how much that EGR valve is open. All I know is that this is no mythical problem and the combination of EGR & PCV on a modern diesel tends to destroy power after the warranty period.
Enjoyed the video. thats just the oil vapor no big harm done by it as such . its the mixing of it with the exhaust gas particles in the egr exhaust gas recirculation that clogs it up . Thats in another part of the manifold. Im with you and not fitting a catch can as id rather oil than dry powder particles scratching up the bores and rings making the blow by worse over time.
Get silicone intercooler hoses too. My mq18 at 30k had softened hoses ( though not perished) even with a catch can installed at 15k. The catch can worked though as the linings are dry. Just about to do the 60k service.
I have a 2015 Triton coming up to 160000km . I have no catch can. I also took off the hoses to check and yes there was some residue in the pipes but the throttle body was suprisingly clean . Personally I wouldn't bother with a catch can, my Triton does mostly long journeys so it is alway running with a hot engine .
Interesting video. I doubt I'll ever fit one to my new Triton... get it later this month. I do a lot of driving on highways(700kms a week) and my current car, a 2013 turbo diesel Mondeo has been forever reliable, 270,000 km and still does less than 6Lts per 100 kms. My new Triton will do similar milage, so the engine will have plenty of opportunities for the regen process to run full cycle.
The regen doesn't get rid of sludge in the intake it only helps with the dpf in you exhaust. The only way to stop manifold from clogging up is either a egr delete or catch can even better do both
I had a 2003 holden rodeo, 220000 km had the intaked check, yep alot of carbon build up that took the mechanic at Adelaide diesel tune a day to clean up. Thought I would feel a change after, maybe a little bit better pull uphill, but nothing to drastic, no better in fuel usage but no worse.
Yeah, there is still plenty of room for air to flow even when they get really caked up, the only real difference is the boost pressure will be a tad lower after a clean.
I've had a catch can on mine for 3 and a half months, just emptied it for the first time, 25-30mm of oil in the can, I was actually surprised at just how much there was!
Only 18000 kms? Maybe the engine is only just now properly "run in"? If you were to clean the intake manifold and intercooler and pipes and the egr now, perhaps there would be less build up when you check again in another 18000kms?
I wouldn’t of thought there would not be enough air flow to push liquid up hill in the hose. What stops the oil that would be caught in a catch can from sitting at the bottom of the intercooler and building up over time to a point of reducing air flow through the intercooler.
As far as I understand the oil vapour is aerosolised which means incoming air carries it all the way to the intake manifold. As for the intercooler, I doubt it'd actually cause a blockage but the oil builds up on the walls of the intercooler and will eventually cause it to not work as well as it should 👍
I know we have a different climate in southern europe, 40C in the summer and -10 in the winter but no one fits catch cans here, and believe it or not our vehicles will still run fine with regular servicing. Maybe driving in extreme heat in the bush makes your engines work harder and breath heavier causing more residues to get through. I still think there is a bit of paranoia going on with catch cans.
I've put an oil Separator kit at around 17,000kms and a diesel pre filter on my GLS for piece of mind. It didn't cost much and piece of piss to install. Great vid mate!
Put a provent catch can on the very day i got my GLS Triton. Have done 8000km now and have caught 250ml oil. Got a paint mixing cup from work and wanted to see how much was being filtered. Haven't thrown out the oil in the cup. Just going to keep filling it up and note at what kilometre. Haven't pulled off the return pipe to the turbo yet to see if it has a coating of oil.
@D W Is it though? I would believe it would be similar in all makes. All diesel engines have to vent and one brand does more than the other, i don't believe in that. 250ml from 8.4L isn't much and on the dip stick, it showed i didn't need to add more oil. My Triton has only rolled over 10000km. In Tassie on holidays, I'll bleed the catch can when i get home. Towing a caravan around the island, some big hills and winding roads. Who knows, might of blown more out.
@@lrzetec sorry, I didn't mean that in an authoritative manner. Was just far more than I was expecting, thus my wuestion about it being sustained. If the oil levels were slightly high when it was first fitted that could create more vapour initially. No judgment intended, I have only done about 3k since fitting mine and haven't seen a similar proportional volume from it yet.
I've just got back from Tasmania. Towing a 1000kg camper trailer and bits in the tray. Covered 3960km in 3 weeks or so. The triton is now at 13300kms and there is now 350ml of oil from the catch can. It would be interesting to compare to other diesel units.
@@mrtriton5405 I have a mq with 48000 on the clock with no catch can, I am motivated to check mine out now, i do mainly country k's so it would be an interesting comparison. I'm keen to see what the older tritons look like with no can if you do get a chance, cheers for the content, keep it up.
He will take it back to mitsubishi for a warranty claim and they can clean it and if it doesn't happen before warranty runs out he will probably just sell the problem
boss tat crank case can u just not just by lass it and run that crankcase pipe to bottom of the truck outside and put in a catch can with a wee air filter on top and run that to the turbo if you like as i see on many cars this is the main problem that kills engines
He was explaining exactly what he found when he investigated. He didn't shoot down any R&D. He stated the engine was doing what it was supoose to do. No way did he criticise anyone.
