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The backfire challenge was about hunting situations at different distances not off a bench with them lined up….

That guy was kind of clueless. At the same time you have your targets all at the same range with your elevation set. This is as much of a joke.

This was hysterical! not even close to the backfire challenge......you are literally shooting from a bench rest.

They were also shooting from a field position right?

You missed the point of the chalange. It is to re create a hunting scenario not only testing your shooting ability but also ranging.

Shooting off a bench isn't exactly what his challenge was

Looks like fun. The Backfire challenge was 100 targets at unknown distance 0-600 from field positions. 10 targets at known distance, all the same distance, and from a bench rest has zero similarity. All the same looked like a fun range session.

He brought a 300 win mag because it was to test hunting skills not water jug breaking skills.

Unfortunately deer don't just line up all at the same range. hell I can hit multiple targets at 1000yds once I'm dialed in, its the the scanning, ranging, and wind, the error in parallax, all kinds of things when you are changing distance that causes misses.

Backfires test was more of a Hunting type situation.....mixing yardages and not bench style rest.

When I was a teenager in Flagstaff, AZ, I met an old man who hunted mountain lion and filled his tag (or got his desired quota...I don't remember how that worked back in the 70's) every season. I learned my first lesson from him before I ever went on a hunt. He told me that if I was shooting at a range I was not 100% sure of a well-placed hit, I was shooting too far and I should learn how to get closer by watching cats hunt. So I did go home and watch our cats hunt and practiced on a local bunch of rabbits with a borrowed Marlin .22LR. The furthest shot I have taken during a hunt was 76 yards on a Whitetail and most were within 25 yards. I don't gauge success by "how far I took that shot and got my game", I gauge by how close I got and took my game. Some of the close shots were archery, but everything over 30 yards or so were rifle. I feel the same way about the spastic firing off of full-auto, it's a total waste, so I shot every shot as if it were the most important shot I can take, but also, not take. If I'm not sure, I 'm not touching the trigger. In the '08 deer season, I did make a bad judgement call and went for a shot at 296 yards according to my laser range finder, but the wind was swirling and I missed. It was my first time using a range finder as well as my first time hunting with a scoped rifle. It simply did not seem like hunting to me. I saw that as verification I should stick with what I know works and not care about what anyone else is doing. It's a mistake to campare myself to anyone else anyway. If anyone else hunts with a scoped rifle at longe range, I just hope they have the skills to be sure of their shots because everything else is a waste. I can hear my grandpa's voice now, "Waste not, want not." He was 35 when the great depression hit, so I see his wisdom as the real deal.

Not exactly hunting conditions, is it?

Strange hunting setup you hike with. Table looks heavy, you must be very strong.

This is still challenging and kudos to you. Next time try placing the jugs at random distances so you have to range each jug. Then randomly choose a shooting position. Would be more apple's to apples with Backfire's challenge. 👍

This milk jug challenge is the best thing ive seen for awhile! Its really showing some capabilities and handicaps

Don't take this personally. But from what you are doing is completely different from the backfire challenge. You have completely missed the point. The point of the backfire challenge is that people tend to think they have more ability to shoot at long distance than they actually are capable of. You're a good shooter but you are doing more of bench rest competition style, whereas the whole premise of the backfire challenge is in the field using your hunting gear and experience and gun. He doesn't want someone with 25 lb 50 caliber Barrett to do the challenge because it's not realistic that anyone is going pack a 25 lb gun to hunt with in the mountains, hiking in. Just like you Shooting from your bench with your favorite gun rest isn't realistic that you would pack all that to go hunting with. I get it. You build custom rifles for long range shooting or hunting and you use the bench and rests to make sure your customers are getting the highest quality custom rifle they expect. But more to the point. Take your customers into account of what are they able to do with that rifle vs what you're able to do and I'd bet there's a wide margin between you and them. That's what the backfire challenge is about. What range is realistic for most hunters. Just my opinion. If you really want to prove it why not get in touch with Jim at backfire and take the challenge. What you were doing isn't as much like the challenge he set up at all.

Mike, the marine was not shooting off a bench. There is the rub.

I think part of the challenge was needing to range, and find your distance. I get that longer shots are harder, but it seems like putting them all at max range kind of neuters the point of the challenge

Good shooting. But the test is in hunting conditions. Different elevations, shooting positions, and distances. You didn’t even have to dial different dope or get off the bench with a rear rest? Still like the video, and hope more people do more like it. I want to see someone smash this challenge.

To be fair, is this truly a fair comparison? Wasn’t the Backfire challenge about simulating hunting situations and ethical kill distance rather than shooting from a bench?

Love watching people try this challenge, it's great way to educate yourself. I hope to hop on the challenge soon.

I believe the challenge was real world hunting/shooting conditions at extended ranges. Your set up is optimal for you ( shooting table, chair, rest, custom rifle, etc..) the only issue is the wind. I would hope you would hit them all since you eliminated most variables.

It was hunting conditions not off a bench. Carried distances

They also based that on a hunting situation and in so you wont always have a rear rest to rely on. Plus different elevation angles, distances and obstructions.

This just proves Jim from Backfires theory to be even more correct. This was known targets at known distance off a bench rest and still could not make all the shots. If he truly did the backfire challenge his scores would be a lot lower. And a miss is a miss you can’t say it would have been a kill shot it is a miss!

Great video. And you are absolutely right about the wind being the handicap. It took me years to learn it. Keep up the good work and that's a gorgeous nice shooting rifle you built there.

Leave a comment and let me know how many of these you think you could hit. Also what’s another challenge you would like to see?

Proving a rifle is one thing, proving a shooter is something all together different. Shooting off a bench even in the wind is not hunting conditions. Having said that running sixty percent on gallon milk jugs at 600 + yards (1 moa x 1.5 moa approx.) i would say is better than 85 percent of hunters out there can do. Run the test again with one of your builds, same yardage, 9 jugs (got milk), hunting caliber (6.5 PRC, 280 Ackley, 270 win or short mag). Three shots prone off bipod, three shots off a back pack prone and three shots off shooting sticks sitting. One minute to fire each three shot run. This much more simulates hunting conditions. John POA Precision Rifles, LLC.

What Jim proved was how difficult long range hunting is. Can you get the range correct, can you shoot from multiple positions, your dope after traveling and the weather changes that affect it. You just missed 40% from a bench, same known yardage and position. Nice rifle. I love the ballistics of my 28 Nosler but it’s so finicky to load for.

Nutnfancy tried to debunk long range shooters of Utah milk jug challenge. LRSU tried to get him on the channel, but he did t go. This guy needs to go to backfire and try it.

This video shows a good shooter with a great rifle off a bench…not the same scenario as the Backfire challenge. The gun looks like an awesome build though.

I think part of the original challenge is shooting different distances from different shooting positions. You don't take a bench hunting and you dont wait for perfect conditions to go hunting. Also a hunter would probability try to close the gap if they saw an animal at 1000 yards. Just my thoughts, but good on ya for having a crack.

Nice shooting . You are missing the point of Backfire’s challenge . You didn’t have to range the jugs and adjust your scope . I’m guessing you spent a lot of time zeroing the scope at that distance that the jugs were set .

At least you didn't scope eye yourself on the first shot! Nice shooting mate 👍 👌

While I definitely appreciate the video, and your perspective, this is an apples to oranges comparison to the Backfire challenge. Jim made it a "hunting scenario" challenge, in which the shooter had to range the target at any given time, and adjust to parameters. Which includes a lack of a rear support of the stock, using only what you carry while hunting. I don't know anyone that carries a bench, a stool, and front and rear supports of the rifle while hunting.

Jim’s kinda of a sale guy, in my thought. I do appreciate his series as it’s showing we miss more than think. As even shown in this video. The thing about Mike the Marine he was not humble.

This isn't the 'Backfire Challenge'. Lose the shooting bench and shoot from field positions. Vary the range of the targets so you can't directly use hold data from previous shots. Even with those advantages 60% hit rate with a precision rifle from a bench is pretty clear evidence that shooting at game at 600 yards is a recipe for plenty of wounded animals.

This is not supposed to be shot from a bench(hunting scenario)

Sir you are absolutely awesome! I dont know you or your channel nothing about you, other than what i've saw on this video. What you just did with those jugs @ that distance to me is absolutely amazing!! Wow! I dont shoot rim fire or center rifle on a regular basis. More into pcp rifles thank you for sharing, and challenging youself, as well as others. Your new subsciber Hank, of Indiana Airguns!

Unless you can haul your table and bench on a hunt, then it would be the same. The challenge was in real world hunting scenarios.

No doubt you can shoot, but the challenge was to have multiple different ranges at different elevations from a hunting position, not one known distance from a bench. I'd like to see multiple unknown distances, range them from your shooting position and engage.

Only thing this video has in common with Backfires is the milk jugs. His jugs were setup at unknown distances hiding in sagebrush. Ranging the distance was 80% of the battle. I was surprised the Marine didn't mil the jugs. Oh and they didn't have a Benchrest. Otherwise good shooting.

This is not the backfire challenge... The whole point of his challenge is targets at unknown distances, in different directions...this resets for each shot, to show weakness in the shooters ability to adapt.... unrealistic for most situations, as most likely you only have one animal you are taking, but still it was a challenge...I think getting as close as possible to the animal is the ethical solution...plus the stalk, is more impressive than the shot.

Love the bottle rest.

You’re kind of missing Backfire’s point. His whole point was based off ethical hunting at varying ranges and conditions. Muzzle brakes suck for hunting, so not having one brought some realism to the challenge, as well as using a common hunting caliber. You have skill for sure, but you’re sitting on a bench at a range, shooting at a known distance multiple times. My 9 year old can do this once dope is established. And how many hunts in the mountains do you bring a rear bag to? Backfire successfully showed how variables can cause even confident folks to miss and injure animals at longer ranges. Good shooting nonetheless! Enjoyed the video!

This isn’t exactly what @backfire did in his challenge. The guy he had with him had a lot of different scenarios at different ranges, uphill down hill and none were from a bench that I remember and no video reply to change his dope. Some were hanging from trees so he couldn’t even really tell where he was missing. You had a much higher hit ratio but not an apples to apples challenge at all.

Good reading of wind.

Big money rifle. Shooting off a bench. Appear to be handloads. Not the same. Hunting scenarios without a table using factory gun and ammo is an entirely different game. Bench rest at 1,000 yards is easier than hunting scenario at 600 yards. 🦌🦌🦌💥💥💥

You’re already doing better,you hit ‘em and didn’t bust your face open!

Backfire was random distances in a hunting situation.

For all of you saying its not the backfire challenge, you are correct....however, it takes amazing skill and consistency to hit a milk jug at 620 yards. I am more than impressed with what he did!

Thanks for putting this video up. I really enjoyed watching it. Props on your shooting. I agree all would have been kill shots. But, It seems you missed the point of what Jim was trying to prove on the Backfire channel. Jim was saying shooting at 600 yards when hunting is much harder than what most people think. It wasn't about shooting a target at a fixed range from a bench. It was range the target at varying distances, dial any adjustments needed and then shoot the target in a limited time frame. Bench shooting is fun and good practice but not the same as when you are in the field.

Great shooting at 620 yards with the wind 💨

Shooting from a benchrest is hardly apples to apples comparing to the Backfire challenge.

What happened in the edit between 4th and fifth shot?

Great video but one of the key factors to that video was a hunting type situation where you would have to move and change positions for this challenge to be a little more accutrate you would need try each shot from a different postition and not off a shooting bench

That’s the most interesting way I’ve ever seen anyone hold the back of a rifle and squeeze the trigger with such a tense hand. You would be able to spot those misses if you would keep your head on the gun after the shot. @backfire started some buzz with that video. It’s fun to see guys trying it for themselves. 👍

Nice go at it. Like you said the wind is your handicap.. I'm not sure on how many I'd get.. some days I feel like I'd get all 10, other maybe about 5/6. I remember a challenge from about 5yr. ago. A golf ball at 300yd in 3 shots. Most guys took more than that 😄

The whole thing was him saying he didn't know any shooter that could make 100% of their shots on game out to 600 yards. The issue is getting accurate range readings in difficult terrain and shooting in "hunting" positions. Not on a bench with a rear rest. Great shooting and I love this video! But it's not even close to the "backfire challenge". no hate at all, ur a great shooter, just not the "challenge" backfire was implying.

Sorry mate but this isn’t a reply to @backfire milk jug challenge! This is a reply to long range shooters of Utah milk jug challenge! Except you are shooting less than half the distance that they do in that challenge and there is no time limit on what you are doing! Sorry but this is nothing more than I can hit a 10in target at 620yds with a 28 nosler, not impressive at all mate!!

I consider myself a fairly good shooter but I doubt I could clear all of those targets. That is a beautiful rifle.

I like the video. I think part of the point of backfire was unknown distance?

With all respect i though we were talking hunting scenarios here. You will not have a bench on you next hundred hunts and there will be a limited time to shoot.

There is a big difference sitting at a comfy bench on a static range with them all sitting at the same distance that you already set your scope and test shots to. Now try setting them all out at different distance with different backdrops making it difficult to get an accurate range on and try different shooting positions and up and down hill in the plains with wind.

In a vacuum it would be a lot easier. It's trying to outguess mother nature that makes it interesting! Good shooting.

I hear ya guys. I appreciate the comments ! New video coming soon:)

Good video! It looked like 2 or 3 misses were just over the top.The last time out at the range with my friends 6x47 L we were each 5 for 5 on a 5" gong at 627 yards. Wind was about 8 gusting to 12 at our 7 0'clock. Milk jugs would not be a problem.

The challenge was about hunting scenarios, different ranges, elevation and target locations and being able to adjust to those changes, not fixed range, elevation and location targets. Also the challenge was in the field not from a table, hence the purpose of the test, to test shooters claimed ethical shooting distance.

No comparison, dude. His challenge was over various terrain and positions. You are sitting on a bench and bipod. Nice shooting, but not the same.

I love watching solid shooting, but this isn't apples to apples. Mike was shooting prone, foliage obstacles. Significant elevation changes, thermals with winds. But I also don't think Mike could have hit the jugs in your video. Nice shooting

Hardly the same challenge. Randomly placed jugs in field conditions is totally different from known distance on a bench.

I always enjoy shooting videos like this, but in most cases, they don't relate to the kind of shooting challenges I face when hunting in the coastal mountains of Oregon. Everyone shooting long range fights the wind, but here, we have to deal with shooting uphill or downhill and with changes in elevation and temperature. Nothing is ever the same for long around here, so the perfect scope settings you used early this morning will probably only get you close later in the day. The variables are enough to make you crazy sometimes. Also, I don't want to be disrespectful to great shooters like Erik Cortina, but we don't shoot with six-thousand-dollar custom rifles. We shoot off the shelf hunting rifles. I guess it's all fun, no matter how you do it!

Hi, nice to see this kind of challenge. I watched the target video closely and I’d be curious to know if the first “miss” left a mark on the top of the jug. I think it was the 3rd miss high and right that was furthest away but by a few inches. Nice shooting it’s a rifle obviously well built. I have been building rifles, mostly rimfire, for a number of years. I’ve got some health issues they say will limit my mobility to where I can’t shoot. I’ve wanted to shoot long range again and an area club just finished a 600 yard range I’m buying components as I can afford them and hope to be able to build the gun and purchase loading supplies yet this year. Medical bills are crushing me as I’ve had 8 operations in the past 14 months. Watching people like yourself keeps the fire burning to stay strong and reach that goal so I have that to remember. Thanks for going out in the rain and wind to put this together.

Am I the only one who has watched that scope flex and smack that barrel on the second third and fourth shot

Not at all a replication of the backfire challenge. A known range from a bench? Come on man!!!

They weren't shooting off of a bench, however. They were attempting to simulate a real world hunting situation, by shooting off bipods and rests in the field. I don't think you really lived up to the challenge. Get off the bench and do it again.

Hy. in that clip they tried to recreate the hunting conditions, including the shooting position. You don't really have a way to use a help like rear support when hunting, nor to carry the table after you. I didn't really understand the idea of ​​your clip

I’m impressed. Honest shooting, thanks for sharing and educating.

I love the 28 nosler i own cant complain wish more people would show more interest like this customer of urs. I have the 6.5 prc 300 prc and the 7prc love all of those but not as much as my 28 nosler to me yes its a barrel burner but replacing the barrel is worth it to me to have a good all around shooting caliber for big game and longer shots with practicing

Ya, not the same... All the awkward positions (real life) the other guy shot from with different wind and shooting directions. Shooting off someones back is a lot different than from a bench with the jugs lined up at the same distance and direction without even having to move....... Just sayin'

This is impressive but by definition not what Backfire channel did. They set up real world scenarios. I agree with your input and helpful advice for viewers but shooting bench vs what they did is highly different. Your video does show it isn't as easy as people like to say.

Shooooooot !!! 😂

I think as others have pointed out... You missed the point of the challenge. Unknown distances, obscured targets, no bench or other hard emplacements, timed shots, etc.

Not from a bench rest

Barrel too hot or what happened? If I was to attempt this challenge, I would not shoot more than 3 shots until the barrel cooled off completely. Furthest I’ve shot at an animal is 500 yards and I have not had to shoot more than 2 shots.

Having all your targets set at a known range and shooting from a bench defeats the whole purpose of the challenge. Nice shooting anyway but don't see how it relates to backfires video

Your chalenge is not the way it was done. Backfire challenge is about hunting. You shoot from a bench - at a one distance. Try it like the original challenge.

I did see the challenge shoot, it did replicate field conditions and a fairly ordinary shooter...with a commonly used chambering. Much like what we experience in the western hunting conditions.

First, good shooting. Very nice gun. Second, not really in the spirit of the challenge …… I think it’s real world hunting conditions of varying distances …… setting up, ranging, calculating, and shooting… not a set distance on a bench.

You are shooting off a bench. You shoot at game off a bench? How many shots you put down range before you filmed? This is stupid

Not a comparable test when all the targets are at the same range. That was the point of his test. First round impacts at varying distance.

Not even close to the same. Backfire challenge was unknown distances out to 600 yards. Plus improvised rests one would find while hunting. Have you ever hunted? I have never seen anyone carry a shooting bench along on a hunting trip.

Boo, this totally misses the point

I’m sorry, 60% from a bench (where most of your misses were high) does NOT instill the confidence you seem to have in your abilities to shoot at deer size targets at those ranges. I would not hunt under the assumption that a deer size vital is any larger than those jugs. You are proving Backfire to be right.

Not the same challenge, you kinda whimped out there , not even close to a hunting scenario

Good video except my shoulder started hurting just thinking about 100 shots from the 300 Win.mag, muzzle brake or not.

Your sitting at a bench. Backfire were not.

Impressive! 😊

Nice work sir

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