I use a Kuroto 1000 at times. Feels different than any stone I ever owned and I own about 20 stones. I do soak my Kuroto I do not treat it like a splash and go. I give it 15minutes of soak atleast. You soak it and it will slurry quickly. Will load up with certain steels but all stones will with certain steels that's why it's a bit unfair for people to say stones load up. What loads up grinding 1095 may not load up when grinding 52100 or 80crv2 and visa versa
Thanks for the review. If a stone loads up too much right off the bat, and usually those type of stones also don't produce any slurry on their own, like when I tried superstone 3k, I usually raise slurry with a diamond plate in the beginning so that helps swarf to swim more than load the stone up. Maybe you can try that with this stone next time if you like. Seems like the binding material is not so ideal for a 1k stone but will keep an eye on the next episodes :)
This is the second time that I've seen the Kuroto stone in action! The first was from a video by a user on here called Grey Beard. He let it soak for 40 minutes before use, so it might have some soaking properties that are similar to the Green Brick of Joy (that allow for longer soaks without damage to the stone), but maybe without the polishing agents. He compared the Kuroto 1000 to the King 1000, and said that they were both great options. Definitely worth checking his video out. Great video overall! Did not know that the stone could be ready so quickly! Would be interesting to compare with the King 1000 and the Naniwa traditional 1000. Other than that, can't wait to see what's next!
I don't use nagura on the fine stones. The reason is that you can introduce low grit particles on a very fine stone so all the polishing effect will be gone.
I never use low grit naguras on finer stones as well. This particular one though is an 8000 grit nagura that comes with the stone :) my rule of thumb is that if you use a nagura, always go with the same grit or finer, depending on what you want to achieve :)
@@DanielWorkshop then we must have different naguras :) this one is not 600 grit. But I do agree with the premise of not using 600 grit naguras on a polishing stone
Only found a few references to a Gouken Kagayaki. Looked like a different stone. Seems like whetstones are like cars and liquor and different national markets can get different products.
This is very true for the japanese market. They tailor to the EU and US market with export models, while having their own domestic ones. My supplier is located in Japan and can't buy export models like shapton glass stones. But will sell me anything on the japanese market. So its kinda backwards but gives me access to alot of fun stones 😁
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 Cool. It's fun to see the variety even if we can't get them. I remember going to England and seeing the Ford Cortina, which was not a thing in the States. We don't lack for good stones to use, at any rate. I have too many 1000s as it is. 😄
Get a Gouken Fuji #8000 for a super mirror polish. It surpasses the Naninwa 'Snowhite' Junpaku, as I've heard. I have ordered a Fuji, will let you know about the performance of it.
The color looks the same as naniwa traditional 1000 and it seems to act as the naniwa traditional. I have a Traditional 1000 and seems to be the same feedback slurry and everything as yours.
@@MrSATism Usually I put the stone in water and come back in 10-15 minutes and if it doesn't make any bubble is soaked. What I mean is I that I don't know. What I can tell you is that the stone surprise me in a good manner.
What compound do you have on your strop? I finally got around to making a new one (very similar to yours, cheers for the idea) but I'd like to try some compound aswell as I've only done leather only before.
so get this instead of the arata 1000? looks liked u soaked it for 20s, plus the splashes, so 30s soaker then? :) so arata 400, kouchan/kuroto 1000, and then the atoma 140? leave the 3000 for later i guess. any tips for getting the angle right? sharpie feels like an odd way, any other way to do it? maybe i could get an angle guide of some sort idk
Yea id say about half a minute. Its a fun stone, . With that lineup you should be golden. And yea a polishing stone down the line. If you like the kuroto go for a suehiro shiramine 6k as a finisher, and if you like the arata the most go for a arata 3k or higher for polishing :) The angle is just practise. I never try to match a specific angle, but rather i try to match the angle that is already there. It can be hard, but having good stones with good feedback really helps with this :)
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 thanks by getting the 3k arata with the rest would save about £12/ 15 Euro's, but probably worth waiting it out and getting it later? Is there a functional purpose for the 3k or is it just for fun?
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 for another 170.57 Norwegian Krone, i can add the king should i get that and practice on it? or just go straight for the 400 Arata and 1000 Kurouto/Kuchan, also someone said the Kurouto isnt a beginner stone, but then he did soak it for 40 minutes? if it isnt a beginner stone, then for a little bit more i can get the Arata (naniwa professional gouken arata) 1000 instead of the kuchan/kurouto? decided to hold off on the 3k for now price jumped 30% from Y7.2k to Y9k+ almost the same cost as the chosera range. Or maybe i could go for the Pro arta 600 and then the 2000 or the green brick of joy that way i dont need to get a 3rd stone for finishing? so many options within just the naniwa range, its crazy :)
@@Iby00 Personally i would go for your first proposal. And although i love the kurouto, i think the 1k arata would be the better choise. Then you would have two similar stones to practise on at first. If you can get the king as well go for it, its a different stone, and a good way to get a feel for what kind of stones YOU actually enjoy. The green brick is a great stone as well, but it is very soft, and easy to dig the knife into it if you are new. The arata is a harder stone and a little bit more forgiving :)
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 it will be a shame i will be missing out on the Kurouto/Kuchan, but i guess having two similar stones to start with when ur new is important. although then that opens up should i then go for a 800 Arata instead of a 1000, sorry to complicate things. But yeah the 2k/3k stone would be for much later i guess, wouldnt use it until i was happy with my skill on the 1000 as per reddit's advice. and the 3k arata just went back down 30% in price too... would save £12/145Krone if i order it with the 400,1000 or 400,800 instead of shipping it later. although i should probably get the king just to practice on. guess the advantage of buying it cheaper is, i can always sell it on until i was happy with what i have :) there also seems to be a 2k arata too, so could get that instead of the 3k or the green brick of joy. but maybe past 2k will be overkill for cutting onions? or maybe not? we get through a lot of onions at home. or is the 2/3k falling into the trap of buying too much at the start. even if i buy it then use them in 6 months? also maybe if u could find some of your neighbours knives to sharpen to start off with a blunter knife, instead of watching the same knife get brutalised over and over :)
Very tough question. And also very subjective. I like to use alot of different stones. But i can give you a few of my favorites. Say the shapton 120 or 320 for chip removal, Chosera 800 or 1000 for maintenance or medium work. And i do like the Mirohei 6000 as a finisher :) (or maybe the naniwa junpaku 8k)
@@lofotenknifeworks2278 how do you like the Junpaku 8k? It's $109 on Amazon. What other 8k stone would you recommend? I have the Kitayama 8k, but not so happy with its performance.
