I thought it was hilarious. It perfectly represented a situation brought about by the combination of Nelly‘s impulsive and devil-may-care attitude and Roberts’s eccentricity. Oh, and Andy screwed himself over: in this, and in so many other scenes.
Jake Branthe exactly , this is the type of storyline that injured that season of the office, I had to skipped all those episodes where Nellie took Andy’s job until the one where she got fired because i just couldn’t stand it.
When I watched this scene I thought I was insane to be so frustrated by a scene from a tv show that isn't real, looking at the comments I'm glad I wasn't the only one. What the office writers did to Andy's character has to be up there as one of the worst destructions in tv history.
If I were Andy, I wld throw Nelie and all her stuff out of the office. There is definitely written document evidencing that I hold the managerial position. If the corporate and Robert California states otherwise, will sue them for constructive dismissal.
@@dillypat5085 What the fuck are you on about? Stop being one of those idiots who bring gender into things that doesn't concern it. Ofcourse he could throw her shit out the office since he's the real manager and she doesn't even work there. Absolute dumbass
Dilly Pat hahaha you serious? nahh ya cant be just shut your mouth no1 finds ya funny how does he sound like he doesnt like women no wonder no1 likes feminists when this is all ye do just take a meaning of something and try make it look like its sexist or racist or something
I always found this bizarre that people went along with it and that Robert California seemed to just allow it. I felt so bad for Andy when he was humiliated and then fired after this
@@peterumathum4903 not to mention she didnt respond to Andy asking her to dock Nellie's pay. She probably didnt clap only cos she's that sort of cold character.
Rodrigo Rodríguez Robert is just a spineless boss sometimes, like with his wife, that episode was just a joke, when it comes to making actual decisions he was just terrible, but that was how his character was meant to be and he was actually funny unlike the bitch nelly who had no substance at first
I disagree. Andy was great for much of season 8 but they changed the character completely, season 8 is a good season although this ep is abit messy, Andy as manager had loads of potential but the change in writers and the brining in loads of extra not needed characters like plop and Nellie just made it all so disjointed by season 9. I do love Here comes Treble though even though I don’t love a lot of that season
Andy was great up until this garbage here and this was by the end of season 8. He became too annoying in season 9. It’s very sad what they did to this character.
lol even when Robert California told her to give Andy his desk back she said no. Like wth, couldnt they have called security? It really was crappy writing
Well it came up that she is a friend of Jo Bennett so Robert both didn't want to upset her and also was less comfortable on firing a woman. It's a great episode that shows how self-confidence and persuasion can lead you almost anywhere.
I was frustrated when no one (except Jim) stood up against Nelly and just accepted her. I know Andy wasn't a great manager but he was trying to improve himself, so I was a bit pissed when they all just put themselves in a complete stranger's hands. I know none of this is real, but it was hard to watch.
Indeed it was hard to watch. I still can't continue watching the show after watching this episode. This is supposed to be a sitcom, but in this later season after Michael left, this show pissed me off a lot more that making me laugh.
I always felt like for as weird, tone deaf and downright obnoxiously oblivious Michael could be at times, that a lot of the time, his office staff were just as capable of being pedantic, disloyal pricks. And this proves it.
Fr i hated how they all just accepted that nellie is their Boss now and no one seemed to care about Andy even tho Andy always cared about them . I also always thought that darryl and Andy would be good friends but even he didnt do anything
Considering how Robert generally is manipulative and overbearing, for him to shrivel up when talking to Nellie is so out of character. The random loyal obedience Angela shows is also weird. Is it just out of spite towards her ex that she cheated on? As much as I hated how Andy got screwed over and how he could have stayed in the office since Angela's words meant nothing and how unrealistically it happened, I think Nelly's takeover was an interesting turn of events.
Especially Robert. Someone sho is that confident, that manipulative, gets "taken down" by few words by random person? While dude talked out Jo out of her own position? Totally out of character
Angela was always a jerk tbh, and she never seemed to particularly like Andy in the first place. She also was into Charles Miner before, which means she's into authority and being on the side of power. That didn't happen well with Michael because, well, Michael is Michael
@@user-sx6rm9uu7q it's not out of character, Robert was a great addition to the show, but he pretty much sucks as a person, he has an unfulfilling life and instability in relationships, he is a rich manipulative guy who will demolish anyone for his own amusement. The fact that most The Office fans take him as some kind of role model sadly proves that he was a very well-built character.
@@TheCrippledEgg if this was real life than Dwight wouldn't be able to even set a foot in that office after firing a fucking gun in there and causing Andy an ear trauma.
You are so right it's not actually funny. The opposite, which I despise almost more, is when the good guy has every single thing in the world against him to the point of bizarre. As a first time The Office watcher now on the season 8 episode Get the Girl, I can tell that's coming for Andy and I am permanently ready to eye roll myself into blindness.
not every tv show has happy endings, and yet everyone had what they wanted at the end of season 9, it feels like you people want to be both writers and audience at the same time.
Post Michael Scott they tried Will Ferrell and allthough I like him, I hated DeAngelo. And then they failed as hell with Nellie. Michael Scott was also annoying at times, but I still love him. He had a lot of charm and character. Nellie is just rubbish. Robert California on the other hand...fun character and great casting.
Tod packer is a bully but he was always fun to watch and was punished for his behaviour when Robert fired him, but nelly was the worst character on the show and the most hated how she disrespected andy and screwed him over
I really disliked this episode. I can't shut down my brain this much it was so outside of reality that you can't even imagine it happening. Call a police
@@TheMarionick bruh as you said. Todd Packer is more likable than her, Todd fucking Packer, the biggest idiot on the show is more likable than her lmao
What made the office funny was how its context was real and normal although a lot of the characters were weirdos and unusual. It’s that juxtaposition of normal and abnormal that made things funny. The character of nellie made the context abnormal, and nonsensical. The juxtaposition disappeared, and everything became stupid instead of funny
I hate this part of the plot as much as the next guy, but are you seriously trying to say that before that context of The Office was real and normal? xD
@@argenerarion yes, definitely. The characters r weird, stupid, funny and crazy but the context is normal. Actually characters like jim and pam were pretty regular. The fact that not everything was just weird and stupid is what made it funny.
What a truly dreadful writing decision this was. First time office watcher here. This was unacceptably bad, that they would plummet Andy and the entire show like this and not understand how much they were tanking their beloved IP.
Randomly got this recommended after watching a lot of The Office clips. I have never watched the full show. So from an outsiders perspective: I have never felt this much anger and malice towards a fictional character than I have felt watching this.
Eh, the character is seen differently by different people. For example, most US people do not like the character or find her funny, where as here in the uk alot of us like her.
The fact that they let her get away with this absurd move kinda killed this storyline for me and many others cause I think it's just lazy writing. The point of ridiculous story threads like this is that they either fall apart by the end of the episode or mini arc or they devolve but push the overall story into a slightly different direction. It's kinda like if Jim would've actually gotten fired after getting caught by Dwight for some silly prank but with no turnaround. At some point it just stops being funny starts being annoying.
Nop, california is a brilliant man. If andy couldn't figure out himself how to get his position back, he doesn't deserve to be the manager. And robert game him the chance. He could've probably called hank and kicked her out.
Jesus I hate how the writers screwed Andy over in the last 2 seasons. They broke his relationship with Erin, they made the others in the office not liking him for a weird reason and then humiliated him in the last episodes of the show. He's easiliy my favorite character especially in seasons 5,6 and 7
I mean you can argue about whether or not Nellie was funny, or enjoyable to watch or whatever - She wasn't. But it's not really about the character itself as much as its about the way the character was introduced. This was just a case of lazy writing. They made everyone act out of character, dumb, and not loyal just so they could make it work. Hell, they even made Robert spineless. I mean c'mon now, do you really think Dwight would embrace Nellie (or anyone) for manager - Especially in this way? Or what about Angela and everyone else that hated her? First they hate her guts, and they're throwing her a bad party, hoping and praying that Andy comes back. Then, next episode, they're listening to her every command! Not only that but the sheer ridiculousness of it is unreal. I can suspend my disbelief about Jim pulling constant pranks on Dwight without any repercussions because it's funny! It's like when Kenny dies in South Park, and then he's back in the next episode. It's a sitcom, and it was just done as a gag. But this? I'm suspending my disbelief for something which purpose isn't to make me laugh, and moreover is being forced upon me with a character that I despise... At least Michael's arch with his paper company was well done. It made some sense, and you did actually want him to succeed. But this..? This is just plain bad...
Scenes like this is one of the reasons the last season of the Office seemed so fake to me, they took a 180 turn and tried to sell the idea that the people in the Office were a loving Family whereas they betrayed each other without remorse several times, Andy consistently suffering the worst of it. Michael, Jim and Pam were the only ones who consistently showed a bit of care to other people in the office, the rest of them were enormous a holes.
I am glad I wasnt the only one who had felt white rage at the whole Nellie taking over the Office plot! I didnt want to believe that the show started to digress after Michael's departure, but this hits the nail in the coffin. Still going to watch the show because I love the characters!
I just saw this and man Andy's plot was really going on a good direction and then she comes up? Of course I shouldn't take the show seriously but she is not even close as fun as Andy was.
I loved that character. Robert was bored in his life and it entertained him. Andy abandoned his post, in my country it's legally a good reason to get fired so in the USA that must be even truer. She gave raises to everyone, gave Pam a nap, just wants the manager chair. I did not Like her in the Sabre conference but she was perfect in this
Today was a really bad day for me, especially with work stuff and relations with people where I work, so after watching this clip right now I just wanted to break my ipad.
This almost made me stop watching this. I mean yes its a comedy but it still followed a set of rules based in its reality...well did any way for the most part up until then. 1. I hated Nellie as she was always awkward and annoying as hell. 2. Made me angry that Robert California had no spine and just let this happen. 3. The lack of loyalty from most of the staff not backing Andy up was terrible. And as I said I know this is a comedy but is also a drama where you see some character development, structure, emotional moments, progression in characters and a realistic story line. Very bad writing in this and with what they did to Andy afterwards. Why build a hated character up so much to the point where he is loved and respected only to devalue him and destroy him???
There is "some" character development (though characters stay mostly the same throughout the entire series), and there are emotional moments. But structure is definently often sacrificed for the sake of comedy and the storylines are definently not realistic by any stretch, over half of the cast are over-the-top personality archetypes to serve for comedy. Jim and Pam are pretty much the only characters that come across as meant to be the "normal ones", and even they have their moments
This made me stop watching, it was when I realized that the show was becoming bad. I just watched a few important scenes from season 9, the final one and that's it. What they did inside the office really doesn't matter to me anymore. Lazy writing
Ignoring the weird way that Nellie became the boss, I still think she was a legitimately funny character and had a lot of potential if written well. California and DeAngelo to a much lesser extent but even still I think the show just ran out of steam
Since she just walked in, presented no legal documentation often needed to work, was not set up by HR as a legal employee nor put on the payroll I guess she could technically work there but the company has no legal reason to need to pay her. The company could even get in legal trouble since she very well could be an illegal immigrant with no right to work in the US.
kotragyek exactly, I was thinking the same, she was annoying me so much I barely watched the episodes with her. Packer was meant to be annoying as well, but because he was funny, I really enjoyed episodes with him. I feel like her character was completely unnecessary.
Maybe at first, but it got to a point where she overstayed her welcome, as if we were supposed to start liking her. Besides, why would a character be written just to be this annoying. It just makes the series unenjoyable.
Gary Owlman the fact that the writers tried SO insanely hard to make fans like or empathize with her, and that this horrendous character came back from 2 “single appearances “ make me actually believe she only got the role cause she knew one of the directors or something like that. Seriously, it has got to be one of the worst castings and characters I’ve ever seen
Umm chill tf out Catherine Tate had done more than all of the rest of the office cast before she became nelly, including having her own show here in the uk. So she definitely didn’t just blag her way into the role
Nelly at that point was the worst character ever in The Office. Grating, evil, cringy character with not a single redeeming or funny quality. Robert's character was also destroyed by the dumb writers for making him submit to that witch.
Got to this episode while rebinging The Office, and out of anger I just switched the tab to this, to reassure my frustrations with the writers to this day, that they put Nellie incharge and "killed" Andy just like that for idk wtf reason.
I love R California and I don't really despise everything that happened post Michael. But THIS is just not canon, I haven't seen it and you didn't either
i hated her so much even though the writers tried to redeem her after some episodes but this makes me physically angry i don't care if you like andy or not but imagine if Micheal went and she just came in and took his job I don't know what I would do
He would have started throwing each and every one of her toys or whatever out the window. Maybe chair as well. If it's not mine than it's no one's kinda scenario. Start treating her and Robert like Toby, go on an absolute rampage, can't decide. Jo somewhat respected Michael as well so Robert couldn't pick sides either.
Her colour was not necessary to be added, she made the series hard to watch. She tried too hard to be a Ryan and Todd Packer but she was just too damn terrible. Her character was okay for a few episodes but she stayed on for far too long and lost people interest
Except in this analogy Andy would have tried to wipe Nelly out in a coordinated war attack, failed and Nelly would have beat the crap out of Andy and them took his position as the victor.
Would you actually respond if she was talking to you that way? It's not that she can command a crowd, it's that the writers made the other characters act as if she could. If I was there, I'd tell her to go take a hike.
@@sloppyphart7879 Of course, the episodes without Michael Scott are shit. But it's a good visualization (maybe a bit simplistic) of how hierarchies and other social phenomena are built - and how they can change.
***** It must be! But is it supposed to be deadpan and ultra-realistic like the uk version? Or is it actually just seen as a normal sitcom with slightly awkward humour?
Its not supposed to be like the UK one after season 5. That being said, we didn't LIKE the this type of humor (Dark and uncomfortable) .But we do like the happy absurd jokes. Look for season 1,2,3,4,5 for reference. especially Dwight's.
+samwiseshanti I prefer the UK version but The Office US completely switched from that genre of comedy after season 1. I disliked The Office US when I watched it with the mindset of expecting something like the UK version. Watch it in the mindset you would watch Family Guy, Monty Python, Blackadder, The Simpsons etc. and you might like it. Once I expect the absurd it becomes pretty funny. Even the later seasons made me chuckle every now and then
