One Biggest Plot Hole That 90s Show You Missed 

The biggest question I have is, where’s Betsy Kelso? They don’t even bring up the fact that Michael’s oldest daughter exists. They just swept her under the rug like they did Donna’s little sister.

Gwen is excellent, Leia has a lot of potential & Kelso has potential. What I liked was that they kept the formatting of the original (love the into & the little clips in between scenes) & the old cast is obviously fantastic. I agree that the other kids aren’t exactly hitting, but I’m going to give it a chance. I think they’ll grow into the roles. Also agree that they didn’t capture the 90s as good as they could have. Ozzy being gay could have been really cool with how secretive he would have needed to be in the 90s. Missed a huge chance there for not just comedic scenes, but sentimental ones too. Could have had it to where he only told Leia and done a lot with only one of them knowing.

It would have made so much more sense to set this in '97 or '98 with the kids having been 15 then, thus being born in '82 or '83. Or they could have had the kids be 13 or 14 in 1995 instead of 15 & 16, thus also being born in '82 or '83. That would have given the two couples more of a reasonable timeline to procreate.

Nobody noticed that Eric turned 17 at the begining of the That '70s Show and 18 at the begining of the 6th season? Age wasn't always something the writers cared about.

I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. Binged it in less than 24 hours. The kids aren't annoying at all and the show isn't a woke-fest as many Netflix shows can be. In fact, there is an authentic old-fashioned feel to it. The writing and the comedy are not yet up there with That '70s show, but I would love to see 2-3 seasons more at least and see if things can go from solid to great. I know that the show needs to stand on its own, but I really wish the original cast would make in more frequent appearances. Miss that cast so much!

I doubt that Donna would have gotten pregnant so soon after Eric came home in the series finale. They would have needed more time to rebuild their relationship. Also we're led to believe that Jackie after New Years Day 1980 decided against being in a relationship with Fez and went back with Kelso and then got pregnant with his son around the same time Donna got pregnant? Hmm it's rather a stretch, not implausible but the timeline for this is definitely off.

There's a hole in the story story about Jackie. In season 1 of That 70's Show, Jackie was younger than all of the other friends. She was only like a freshman or a 10th grader. And even in the flashbacks memories they show Jackie as a littler girl than Michael when she says that she loved him. But at the end of the season they were taking a class pictures together and they had presumably all finished high school together, however Jackie would have been one or two years younger according to the first season.

The nostalgia factor plays a big role here, so if you're watching as a fan of the original That 70's show you can add plus one star for that nostalgia factor. Otherwise the show, doesn't utilize enough of the 90's besides some stereotypical references which are thrown here and there. Honestly, it could be set in any era, but it just happens to be called The 90's show. The old familiar of reoccurring characters and especially being set in what looks like the original house of the Foreman's from the original including the living room, the kitchen, basement and the front yard is mind blowing. I find myself just wondering how were they able to preserve so much of the original set pieces or they just paid great attention to details. Unfortunately that's where the awe ends, since the dialogs, screenplay, storylines and jokes are really bland with few exceptions. As I said at the beginning, the nostalgia factor holds this together, but it doesn't get out of the shadow of the original. Potential is there though.

I just wanted to point out, Michael Celso had a daughter with another girl in that 70s show. Where is she?

The first episode of That 90’s Show has a nostalgic intro from both Kitty and Red before Eric knocks at their front door. It appears as though he’s been away for quite some time and now works at a university as an adjunct professor teaching a “Religion of Star Wars” course. After his hugs and hellos, Donna walks in with a bunch of their belongings and gives a funny jab at Eric for essentially not helping unload the car, which Eric doesn’t seem to pay much attention to. It’s in this moment you may start to think this show has a chance of being good. You meet the main character Leia, who is the daughter of Eric and Donna. She appears to have the facial features of Donna and the skinny, alien-like bone structure of her father Eric. It’s also hilarious to know Eric managed to talk Donna into naming their first child after a Star Wars character. Speaking of Star Wars, Eric still hasn’t given up his love for it. Aside from teaching Star Wars at a university, he also attempts to use the wisdom of those movies to influence his daughter throughout her entire life, which she obviously can’t stand. Leia finds herself early in the episode walking around outside of her grandparent’s home before hearing the neighbor girl across the street, Gwen Runck. Gwen is listening to music and screaming the lyrics before turning to the window and seeing Leia standing there, looking at her. They have a short interaction that has you wondering if these two are going to be romantic lovers or best friends throughout the series. After a while, I’m to believe they’re just going to be friends, but I’ll let you decide for yourself. The majority of the episode has Leia interacting with different kids from the area, only to find out that some of them have relations to characters from That 70’s Show. I enjoyed every interaction from the new and past characters in this episode and appreciated how all of the new kids on the show resemble those legendary characters in some way. I was a bit confused when seeing Nate, though. He gave off Kelso vibes, but you later find out something important that I won’t spoil. What I’m referencing has me to believe that there are many similarities with the characters, but this show also attempts to be its own thing. Leia enjoys spending time with everyone and even starts to catch feelings for another. This has her wanting to stay in Point Place for the summer, rather than just for a day or two. Eric and Donna allow for her to stay with Kitty and Red and say their goodbyes at the end of the episode. You also get a little idea of what the kids are capable of, as they manage to throw a keg party and even find the old Candyland marijuana “stash” that was hidden away at the end of That 70’s Show. Overall, the episode is entertaining and gives off the proper amount of nostalgia that’ll have you wanting more. The only gripe that I have with the pilot episode of That 90’s Show is how Donna feels like such a secondary character. From the beginning where Eric ignores her as she walks in with all the suit cases, to her lack of input into her daughter’s life over X amount of time, to even how she says goodbye to Leia at the end of the episode. I can’t tell if she’s scripted to be like that, or if Laura Prepon just doesn’t want to be there.

A brave move to reboot a classic show, but I think it’s working out well. As the first few episodes ticked by, the new teen actors characters have started to work some magic in their parts which happened so effortlessly in the original That 70s Show. The glue held in the pilot of That 90s Show thanks to the appearances of most of the original cast and of course Kitty and Red. The ever suffering emphatic Red and the loving, mothering Kitty gel perfectly with the new teen group too. A pity Danny Masterton’s character Steven Hyde (who reminded me of Jeff Lynne from ELO) is not a part of the sequel only for obvious reasons. Maybe they could have written in say Hyde’s daughter or son into the group, but I think this show can only get better and become as successful as the original series - so I do hope the producers give it a chance to allow future seasons to blossom into a classic set.

Don’t bring back a show that was set during the time when everyone was less sensitive, the whole show feels so PC and it won’t be able to have the same magic the original show has.

That '70s Show was infamous for plot holes...like these never ending years where they Christmas multiple times in the "same year," Donna's sister who appeared for an episode...the actors aging way faster than their characters were supposed to. I certainly noticed these things in That '90s Show, but I think that they had to mess with the time line for the sake of the show (like usual). Leia's birthday is better celebrated before the very end of summer, and making Eric and Donna slightly older works better since the actors are hard to pass for their mid 30s. These inconsistencies were the only way to set the show as early as the mid-90s, and honestly, the feel for the decade began to wane by the end of it. I also think that they are planning to go for more seasons and don't want to make the "forever in the same year" mistake again.

I was confused too! It doesn't make sense. For Jay to be 16 Jackie would ha ve had to gotten pregnant with him in 1979 unless she also had him early. Even then, Kelso had moved to Chicago in the previous season right? So some time during 1978ish or early 1979 max. If they are all suppose to be 16ish in the 90's Jackie and Donna would have had to be pregnant right after the show ended if not before. Jackie at least dated Fez long enough for them to go on a couples trip together. (My guess a few months) that would mean Fez has a high chance of being Jay's Dad. I also don't see Donna getting pregnant then immediately marrying Eric.

I said this after hearing that Leia was 15. Donna wasn't with Eric then. And also Jay is older than her but Kelso wasn't with Jackie in 1979.

bro shes keeps saying Leah its Leia

I don’t nit pick, I am just grateful and enjoying this 90s show so much ❤

This seems to be an easy fix, I believe that it has not been said on screen that it is 1995. It would be an easy fix to place it in 1997, 20 years after the beginning of That 70's Show.

Eric and Donna were around 20 years of age, in the original show's conclusion, in which Eric and Donna kissed. Donna must have gotten preggers right thereafter. The Kelso kid is a more difficult explanation. Perhaps That 90s Show should have started a year later (1996), to avoid these inconsistencies.

I had a theory that Leia wasn’t actually Eric and Donna’s daughter. She’s actually Lori’s daughter and Eric and Donna decided to raise her after Laurie abandon her or died.

yeah we need to know where Betsy is and they can't dodge Hyde because of the PC stuff, let's bring him back dammit

If Donna got pregnant on new years night/morning with Eric and had her daughter a month early.. it works out.

In reality, they basically just assumed nobody would nitpick about something like that. The start date of the show was basically pulled from thin air. It could have been 1994 or 1996. 1995 was probably picked because it gives them 5 years to have the show end at midnight on Jan 1, 2000 just as the 70s show ended on Jan 1, 1980. 1995 was the year Windows 95 was launched as well, basically making the internet readily available to anyone who wanted it then.

It feels like a cut and paste of the original show. It has the same canned laughter. All the same characters, just with new names. Barely any 90s references other than the clothes. When That 70's Show came out, it followed the sitcom format of the day. I wish this new show would have done the same. Followed the sitcom formats of today and made the characters relatable to kids that grew up in the 90s. Rather than just rehashing the formula from 20 years ago. I remember my mom watching That 70's Show with me and loving it, because it reminded her of her youth. But watching this doesn't bring back any memories for me. Well, except of the original show.

I think youtube should ban text to speech channels.

I think Leia has a sibling that we don't know about

“His mother’s brain” may mean Brooke and not Jackie. And jay and leia never meet during Eric and Donna’s visit all these past years to the Formans home. Makes no sense.

Okay people think to hard about this

To answer all your questions: who cares let’s just enjoy or not enjoy the show can we

Some states you can get your driver's permit at 14 and license at 15

The timeline being off is the least of this show's problems

Thank you for pointing these out. I thought I was the only one that noticed them.

Who the hell is Leah because that’s not her name

I think it’s great that those gaps exist. Somebody could realize a gap issue during a 360, then get all paranoid that So&So isn’t the dad, and they have to call Maury (Povich)! They could have all kinds of fun with it! 😁😊

And i thought Dale Gribble had issues with conspiracy theories.

Omg how did you know i missed this…!?😮

Jackie couldn’t be the mom of the Kelso kid, because she was with Fez.

Jay actually doesn't need to be 16+ to drive. You only need to be 15 to drive in Wisconsin, which is even pointed out by the show when Leia is given a car for her 15th birthday. But this still doesn't entirely make sense. Unless Jackie was actually somehow pregnant at the end of that 70's show and didn't even know. But that wouldn't work with the timeline either unless Jackie cheated on Fez.

Basically, Leia isn't Eric's kid. They celebrate her birthday in July and Eric didn't get back from Africa hunting Dec 31 1979, until she was a 2 month old pre-me she isn't Eric's. And why not even a mention of kelso's daughter?

I like the idea that Eric got Donna pregnant the night he came home from Africa. Also fez said Jackie called Kelso and left him in Jamaica she could've found out that she was pregnant while she was in Jamaica and assumed it was Kelso's and thats why she called him

The day That 90's show begins, July 3rd 1995, was Red's actor Kurtwood Smith's 52nd birthday.

I feel like like even Danny isn't in this franchise anymore he should at least be mentioned for the series sake.

Yeah I was confused on that one too but still a pretty decent first season.Hopefully more to come

The timeline was a very big plot hole in the series. This isnt to mention Betsy. There was no mention of Betsy in the show or even Hyde. I get Danny Masterson got into some legal trouble but they could have at least mentioned his name in the show

Biggest question I have is, why did they make this show? It's horrible

True, the writers should have definitely paid more attention to details about the ages and timelines. They should know by now that we 70’s Show fans are serious about this. Don’t just put out anything and think it’s good enough maybe we won’t notice. I do believe the show has potential overall though. The actors should binge watch That 70’s Show and develop their characters.

It would’ve been better if they just did it about other people or just have it about the og cast without Hyde.

after doing extensive research I found that the 1995 1996 Chicago School District start date was 08/08/95, that would suggest Donna to be empregnated realativly as soon as Eric arrived home. That still leaves 1 month of gray area, but it is likely that Donnas water broke prematurely ( yes 1 mont is a large stretch but it is plausible) emplying that Leia being born late July early ( 1st week of August) August.

That 70 show was stuck in a time warp. 8 seasons took place over approximately 3 years and 3 months. I think they had 4 or 5 Valentine's Day episodes that took place in 1978.

First off I will say that I am the biggest 70s show fan probably ever! I still fall asleep to it every night and know all the lines… I’ve watched each episode at least 100 times so I was really excited, however, I wasn’t expecting much… It’s a 50-50 for me… Half of it feels very corny and forced, and un organic, sort of reminding me of a nickelodeon kids show… And the other half of me appreciates some of the moments they did do a good job with, and the creative writers and actors all came together for a couple of laughs… The main character, Leah is great and her black friend with the short curly hair is pretty funny but the rest again reminds me of a kids TV show… I still love Red and Kitty though! Fes and Chong are great too! The gay boy, though… Bad… It’s way too forced and of course we all knew they were going to do something like that since every show has to now… But it’s not good… Actually, it’s pretty cringy..I hope they are able to find some chemistry with each other and get everything flowing. Otherwise it’s just another OK show….

I like that they kept The Circle a part of the show. The Circle is the funniest part of the original show. All the way from the car that runs on water to the new Donkey Kong scene. But these no mention of Betsy Kelso, Midge, Jackie's mom and of course Hyde. I understand that Danny Masterson is in trouble but would it to at least mentioned what happened to him.

Eric my mannn, the power of pum pum are just too strong. Dont nick pick too much. Just watch the story for the sake of the story not for the sake of finding plot hole. Go make your own series if you are better.

i think they did the best that the could starting in 95 means the kids old enough to relate to for a broad span of audience while leaving enough buffer room for a future seasons to keep the time line a little better than the original series that spanned 8 seasons in less than 3 years

What If at the end of that 70's show Donna was pregnant with Leia as Eric was coming back from Africa for New years as the clock hits midnight on the new resolution of 1980?

They should also knw Eric age in that 70s show was not moving for 4 to 5 years

I think Nikki is Fez and Laurie's daughter she acts like Laurie and Looks like Fez

Okay here's one, in season 1 of that 70s show, they went to see star wars, which takes place in 1977, and after that, I counted the Christmas episodes and made me think how many Christmas are there between 1977-1979, cause there was more then 4.

The episodes feel rushed and a lot of the dialog feels like they took Disney Channel writers and let them use "bad words," but I still liked it enough to finish the series. I was kind of hoping Red was gonna be a pushover with a closer relationship with his granddaughter so it was going to bug Eric and we'd get a moment where Eric tells Leia how things were when he was growing up and Red gives the old "I never did that. If anything I spoiled you." I know that's very specific, but it feels like a lost opportunity for a relatable moment. Especially considering most fans of the original are that age now. This show is desperate to be liked, and misses the high water mark by trying to cram character arcs into 18 minutes. Should've either had 25 episodes or just 10 1hr episodes so they could actually develope the characters. Kinda feels like it was produced to have clips on tiktok or RU-vid shorts.

The original show was 8 seasons that spanned 3 years. You can't take the timeline of these shows seriously. Also, I want to see Casey Kelso brought back. Luke Wilson was so funny in that role.

There's the Star Wars twist - Randy Pearson says to Leah: "I Am your father!"

She got pregnant immediately. The end.

Kelso was a year older than the rest of the group. Said it in the permanent record halloween episode

I’ve been saying this since I binged watched the whole series, what if Leia is Randy’s kid?!

I couldn’t watch this video seeing that they can’t pronounce Leias name even though it’s easy asf lol and they called Eric a recurring character in that 70’s show 😂😂😂

Wouldn't Kelso's kid be the kid he had with brooke, the librarian? Not Jackie?

You know what, it's a sitcom not a documentary. If you can't enjoy the show without trying to pick it apart you need professional help for your OCD.

When you add Eric's age mistake to the mix I begin to suspect the original intent was for the show to be set in 97-98 and the showrunners/studio made a last minute decision to roll it back to 95 to give the series more room to space out episodes before hitting 2000. Jay having his license all but clenches it.

Also , where kelso daughter Betsy 😂😂😂😮 many things messed up on

It should have never even been a show. Just my opinion.

The biggest plothole is why you keep calling Leia, Leeah.

She basically would have been a New Year’s Eve baby born a month early

I have no idea why they messed up these things so badly. It's not like they didn't have time to get it right

I don't know why people keep saying Eric was still at space camp during Leia's birthday. He wasn't able to make the trip because he is recovering from an injury that happened at Space Camp, not still at Space Camp.

Umm hate to break it to you but leia age and everything is spot on really and here's why yes leia forman july 19 1980 which means she would been conceived in October 23 - 31 1979 but of course Eric went to Africa but if you guys did your research season 7 and 8 of that 70's show was both based in 1979 so thats why plot hole solved 😊👍

Have you seen The 70s show basement. There were some clear unreliable narrators for what happened in the 1970s.

Why do timelines have to add up? It’s a sitcom?

ok so the timeline doesn’t match up, does it matter? basically i’m watching it just to get the fun i had from that 70s show, but from the point of view from when i was born, the 90s. the nostalgia factor is what’s interesting, nit picking about the timeline is lame, this is not one of the shows that i need continuity perfection. just seeing the old characters again was sweet too.

Very realistic sounding A.I. voice but a bit un-natural at parts

No Eric is probably not her biological father, but married her anyway .

Tv shows have a long history of time issues, for example in the show Tabatha her brother Adam is suddenly older though in Bewitched he's younger. Characters also grow up too fast when they are young, Alexander in Star Trek TNG for example but then seem to take a decade to get through high school like in Happy Days. Heck even the new Night Court has 32-year-old Melissa Rauch playing Harry's daughter who would have have been at most 30 if she was born immediately after the previous series ended in 1992. And don't get me started about Doctor Who, lol. As they say "relax, it's just a tv show"... :D

Right off the bat you got it wrong it's 15 and a half it is July in the first episode so there is time for her cuz she was fourteen and that episode she was just going to turn 15 later on that come on people use your brains

easy they had leia in 1980 you know 1980 to 95 is 15 leia is 15 so it means they had her not long after that 70s show ended means she was born the summer of 1980 if shes just turning 15 in the show

If you pay attention, they actually never explicitly said Jackie was Jay's mother. With that said, it seems plausible, Kelso could have knocked another girl up off screen. We already know he fathered Betsy earlier. He could have had a few out-of-wedlock kids before marrying Jackie.

Does that 90s show ever mention Eric's sister?

It should of been 1997 instead of 1995

I like the characters personalities on that 90s show but I don't see it getting another season. The acting is kinda awkward and the chemistry just isn't there.

That 90's show feels like its meant for teenagers. That 70s show seemed like it was meant for more of a young adult crowd. I don't see it getting a season 2/

OKAY BUT WHERE IS KELSO’S DAUGHTER ?????

Can we all agree this is just a tv show? Why worry about plot holes and BS. Its for entertainment purposes. Sit back and watch the show or don't. I find all these "plot hole" videos stupid.

But Jay is not Jackie's kid Kelso got a different girl pregnant I'm that 70s shop

Nate reminds me more of kelso than Jay does tbh

They should've just made it summer of 1996 and all of these mistakes would not be there.

I don't spend time to analyze fantasy stuff. You analyze real life. There is a profit in that. Like hot dogs, not worrying about how the leftover garbage meat pieces ended up looking and tasting so good, I just enjoy shows for what they are. 😄

The 90s show isn't the 2nd series but the 3rd

Duuude c’mon, it’s Leia like from Star Wars. NOT “Leah”.

It's not a plothole, it's just a confusing timeline, similar to the original show.

I grew up in the 70s. Although I was in elementary school. So with that being said my daughter was born in 1989 and I was 20 years old. People didn’t admit to being gay, even if they were gay, especially guys. This just one of many incorrect things regarding this show. This is a show like so many today trying to be “politically correct” or “socially correct” so we got to add a gay guy and we got to add someone from every race. That 70s show was good because you could actually see them being friends. My group of friends were half white and the other half black but trust me that was not the norm in the 90s. Every one would see us and not what to think. You’re friends because you’ve got the same taste in music or you are all athletes etc. This cast just doesn’t look like they would ever hang out together. Call me old or racist or whatever I don’t really care but before you do you might look at my kids before you do. I’ve seen other comments and reactions from other people and they are saying the same thing without saying it.

It’s a show. For entertainment. Get a grip people. I love the 70s show, and so far I am loving the 90 show. But I don’t pick a part the dates in the specifics I just enjoy it. I think it’s cute

Maybe Randy is the biological father?

They also forget to mention that kelso has an older daughter