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@Jordypcollinsx
@Jordypcollinsx 10 месяцев назад
I love how whenever there are hot takes, the chat waits for flats reaction then after they have a strong opinion which matches his
@R4ZZLD4ZZL
@R4ZZLD4ZZL 10 месяцев назад
The chat delay is pretty strong though
@ValentinoMarino11
@ValentinoMarino11 10 месяцев назад
@Fultonian-ve1ib I hate how Rein just lost his presence in OW2. It feels like nothing he does takes any priority.
@KuroiHoshiV
@KuroiHoshiV 10 месяцев назад
​@@ValentinoMarino11At one point, season's ago I would swap to Ramattra against any Rein or mirror him. Now I don't even bother because is so easy to shut him down as ANY tank.
@mohammadalhusaini810
@mohammadalhusaini810 10 месяцев назад
Because any one who agrees with him literally stands on their life with his opinions even if they wrong. Like bro literally says mercy is a balanced character like the amount of 🧢 in this sentence is crazy but the bots in his chat wait for his opinions then they say it like they have been saying it all along
@Feynvel
@Feynvel 10 месяцев назад
@@ValentinoMarino11 if you arent masters+ you can still dominate in matches
@Jonniffer08
@Jonniffer08 10 месяцев назад
That take on the end about teams not knowing how to put together an appropriate comp is so damn true.
@ztk211
@ztk211 10 месяцев назад
2:05 dude didnt just burn the food, dude melted the whole damn pot
@GallusOW
@GallusOW 10 месяцев назад
Easily my worst take of the lot
@blackmailz
@blackmailz 10 месяцев назад
What pot? The kitchen's gone dude! XD
@rodrigotm1461
@rodrigotm1461 10 месяцев назад
Last time I played (yesterday), I destoyed Winston and Roadhog with Junker Queen, I dont know what that guy is talking about.......
@ItzJupiter
@ItzJupiter 10 месяцев назад
@@GallusOW L
@sunny_172
@sunny_172 10 месяцев назад
Bro has gone off his rocker
@Mugthief
@Mugthief 10 месяцев назад
Hey there, creator of the Ashe vid here. Bronze players on Soldier will just run it down mid all match, Hanzo and Widows can't hit a shot. This is why I recommend Ashe, because other DPS can find success by just running out down, teaching bad habits, and other DPS like Widow are very punishing and can demotivate new players. Ashe, in my opinion, feels like she always has consistent impact, especially thanks to Bob, to keep people motivated, but also forces you to learn positioning and cooldown management. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, much love to Flats and his team!
@rebellionx420
@rebellionx420 10 месяцев назад
12:20 never heard a more well done take in my life, exquisitely cooked Chef Flats
@somaraparicio3537
@somaraparicio3537 10 месяцев назад
I love how all the videos end with Flats going insane 😂
@hamsteronthemic1210
@hamsteronthemic1210 10 месяцев назад
the reason that doom, ball and hog are only fun when theyre kinda bad is because when they are good they feel op
@psyjinx
@psyjinx 10 месяцев назад
100% agree with Flats on the Ashe vid. Learn the maps, after that, go watch a little bit of A10's educational content to better understand map concepts. That way, as you learn the characters from here, you're naturally falling into decent positions and have space to take in and understand abilities and cooldowns.
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 10 месяцев назад
Okay, the problem with fun tanks being bad is that most tanks are fun to play in moderation. And the moment tank becomes the tank of the season and you have to play it all the time, it stops being fun. Especially since some tanks are meta not because they're strong but because either they work with most characters, or they work well with currently meta characters, so you're not playing it because it is giving you opportunities for fun or good plays, you play it because you other people will have good plays. With other roles making some characters stronger than other creates rotation, with tank it doesn't work as well due to tank being single, as well as other roles having build in counters to some tanks. The balance of this game is being held by half eaten bandaid and dreams of woodland creatures.
@theprometheu5
@theprometheu5 10 месяцев назад
Thats last hot take from Flats is so true. Whenever I’m playing support the rein players are so happy they have a lucio, and so are winton players for Ana. I really think OW should educate the playerbase about ideal comps and synergies somehow.
@Axis0504
@Axis0504 10 месяцев назад
as soon as new players go to the comp section for the first time they should be taught the fundamentals of every role and the heroes that they wanna play.
@therealabracat
@therealabracat 10 месяцев назад
oh i can play winston like reinhardt? * puts down barrier* * walks towards enemies with team behind* * f**king evaporates*
@jacobyork6149
@jacobyork6149 10 месяцев назад
Niandra is actually a great Mercy content creator!
@Blake_murray16
@Blake_murray16 10 месяцев назад
Hot take: the reason people keep losing is because I only play quickplay, so when heavily competitive people come to play quickplay and see me being silly on Sombra or Ashe just vibing they get mad and tell me to switch. My brother in Christ there is 17 seconds left in the game, me switching at the very last second isn’t gonna win us the game magically when the team has their robot pushed to our spawn
@A_Literal_Egg
@A_Literal_Egg 4 месяца назад
Speaking as someone who was hard stuck bronze a couple years ago those ashe tips are shit for new players people don't even think of that stuff in Plat and sometimes low diamond
@pedronycum6765
@pedronycum6765 10 месяцев назад
Id say the problem is comps, becuase imagine being tied down to a specific character that is influenced by what anyone else plays
@pedronycum6765
@pedronycum6765 10 месяцев назад
Becuase that's litterally every game, even in unranked and especially in arcade, "oh go into arcade and take a break from ranked you will feel a lot better, durr durr durr" how? Arcade is a free for all meaning bronze can be in the same game with diamond and above and unranked is sooo sweaty even more so then ranked which bewilders me. In short anybody who's had over 2 k hours in this game has lost my respect especially if their try hards who are over nature man children who could afford the first game because the rest of us were 11-13 when overwatch came out and these sweaty old bearded no lives just simply sweat this game like winning is what excuses their existence. Seriously screw this game and the people who think they own it,this game was never casual friendly and will never be balanced, 6v6 will never come back, pve has already been swept under the rug and forgotten and all the old great RU-vidrs of overwatch will never come back for this shit excuse of a sequel, I fuckin hate overwatch 2 and anyone who experts themselves in what counts as fun or skill or anything.the only skilled players in overwatch 2 are teabagging one tricks who were picked on in school so they play this game to bully their bullies kids, fuck that.
@Greendragonranger671
@Greendragonranger671 10 месяцев назад
here how you play any DPS- words from Aculite and I Quote "Point and Click" or something like that.
@RetroMicrobe845
@RetroMicrobe845 10 месяцев назад
The guy in the second TikTok is in gravel 2 I swear ☠️
@BYDknow
@BYDknow 10 месяцев назад
I'm a support main, and I can 100% say that almost every support is broken.
@ashtonarrington698
@ashtonarrington698 10 месяцев назад
Flats be making it a 1v4 vote to counterpick. Winstons primary fire needs a buff i think. His damage should be buffed to be a little more even with the amount of healing that typically goes into enemies in an engagement.
@munchiemunchie5226
@munchiemunchie5226 10 месяцев назад
But then he would be even more broken in pro play.
@itzjusttorrence7995
@itzjusttorrence7995 10 месяцев назад
Idk, my starter hero was pharah. Still working on aim but i pretty much have mastered the jetpack use. Still need to also use more walls.
@mysicle363
@mysicle363 10 месяцев назад
Lucio needs to be buffed live laugh love Lucio mafia
@AbashedCarc
@AbashedCarc 10 месяцев назад
I dunno, I know too many support mains that will say supports are an ass to play right now. Tired of most of my matches being "Which teams supports will mess up first?"
@nanofox3725
@nanofox3725 10 месяцев назад
Niandra is an amazing Mercy.
@user-wm9pj2xj7z
@user-wm9pj2xj7z 9 месяцев назад
I know 6v6 isn’t the tank solution but I do miss duo tanks
@Orciwan548
@Orciwan548 10 месяцев назад
lol funny thing is ashe was my first hero just bc she was first on the list. my idea was well gotta start somewhere so i started at the front. luckily my skills from other games like val actually translated pretty well to ashe at first allowing me to learn the game while having at least some value just bc i could kill people. overall wouldnt recommend thought lol.
@applejackson8768
@applejackson8768 10 месяцев назад
I play tank and honestly the people who never synergies in rank is the dps they'll go ashe with no mercy or go hanzo and can't hit crap. Plus Flats the best team comp right now is clearly D.va,Tracer,Sombra,Brig, and Kiri
@timvandermolen9696
@timvandermolen9696 10 месяцев назад
i love roadhog. i always loved him. when he was bad when he was busted. i always pick hog.
@madara992
@madara992 10 месяцев назад
i didnt realize that mercy's extended part of her wings is still a hitbox
@alecmiller5296
@alecmiller5296 10 месяцев назад
It’s barely a hit box it’s only the very base of them the glowing part of the wings aren’t so it’s not much of a reduction but I guess any amount helps
@momdad1818
@momdad1818 10 месяцев назад
​@@alecmiller5296yea it's a micro tech that can help in very small situations just to make the most out of your tools
@madara992
@madara992 10 месяцев назад
@@alecmiller5296 it really does make a difference even it’s little plus it would make mercy less conspicuous since her wings do glowed and spread out
@Cumwel
@Cumwel 10 месяцев назад
If you are new just have fun and play what you like, enjoying the game is the most important thing in the end
@Wombatsgone
@Wombatsgone 10 месяцев назад
I bow down to the tank and dps like they’re gods. You run Rein? You bet your ass I’m going Lucio, captain. Lemme know when you want to rush in I got your ass PROTECTED o7.
@dolphin_knightyt6449
@dolphin_knightyt6449 10 месяцев назад
Hey, does anyone know where to send match codes he reacts to.
@genesis5054
@genesis5054 10 месяцев назад
Honest question do you actually prefer Lucio over Baptiste??
@Senor_Fast
@Senor_Fast 10 месяцев назад
People nowadays refuse to play what the majority of the team is playing comp wise. The amount of times I've seen a lw and or a mercy when most of the team is on dive is painful. If people actually enabled each other instead of "helping", things would go much smoother.
@aziz8121
@aziz8121 8 месяцев назад
I agree with you in the last point that yeah they play soldier and cass while we're dive but the point of the boring tank I disagree with you I actually enjoy playing hog buffed nerfed and every situation
@therealdude707
@therealdude707 10 месяцев назад
When OW2 came out, people said Orisa was fun. I never found her fun.
@kendricklaw6748
@kendricklaw6748 10 месяцев назад
played against a sigma on junker town, my team swaps to zarya sym because they want to counter sigma lmao
@Pes._
@Pes._ 10 месяцев назад
Ashe video cooked, flats is just a plat dps
@KING-K-ROOL246
@KING-K-ROOL246 2 месяца назад
The shitter the character in any game the more fun it is
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 10 месяцев назад
"Keep your sanity intact" and "Overwatch 2 tiktoks" are not words I epxected to be put together.
@PisserFartShitt
@PisserFartShitt 10 месяцев назад
Sanity and tiktok don't belong together. They are natural enemies
@nr21_7ndrd52
@nr21_7ndrd52 10 месяцев назад
Same
@ellewong137
@ellewong137 10 месяцев назад
Overwatch 2 TikToks will not keep your sanity intact
@trevorhill5822
@trevorhill5822 10 месяцев назад
@@ellewong137 yeah dude that's the title of the video, thanks
@goldenpineapplesgobrrr9973
@goldenpineapplesgobrrr9973 10 месяцев назад
Cause they shouldn't
@TheKeaToSuccess
@TheKeaToSuccess 10 месяцев назад
Bro you were absolutely preaching with that “hot take” at the end. I’m a support main and even I couldn’t agree more
@Koozul
@Koozul 10 месяцев назад
imma be honest he was preaching the wrong take. Just preach personal accountability. The even more glaring flaw with that persons take is that both teams have a tank player.
@viktoranderas9541
@viktoranderas9541 10 месяцев назад
​@@Koozullol
@SecureBirch410
@SecureBirch410 10 месяцев назад
@@Koozul yeah it's just easy to blame the tank because you can easily compare the only two tanks in the game in terms of stats.
@eagleblaze02
@eagleblaze02 10 месяцев назад
Basically with any role I will always pick to match my team as best I can. I actually prefer that because I like playing different characters. I don’t want to keep playing the same hero every game; I find that boring as hell. So whenever I see someone pick an uncommon tank, I’m not gonna sit there crying about meta, I’m gonna take the opportunity to play the best fitting hero for the team and enjoy myself
@TotalTrashDPS
@TotalTrashDPS 9 месяцев назад
DPS main here, agreed. I'm not good enough to know what the best pick is but I can make guesses like poke (Cas and soldier) aren't good picks with dive (Winton or doom) if my tank is dive I swap Genji, if poke ashe, if brawl Genji (not best choice but I can play a brawl Genji so it works)
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 10 месяцев назад
2:04 "it feels like any dumbass winston can just go up to the enemy tank, duel them for 15 seconds and jump away unpunished" bro just ousted himself as someone that doesn't remotely understand what makes winston strong
@notster7114
@notster7114 10 месяцев назад
literally sitting there tickling a roadhog with a hand buzzer while the enemy supports and dps farm ults off him
@Novenae_CCG
@Novenae_CCG 10 месяцев назад
Opening with a Niandra tip and hearing Flats excitedly say they're goods tips brought me joy. Niandra also has longer videos on RU-vid going in-depth about Mercy tech.
@dominicharvey6048
@dominicharvey6048 10 месяцев назад
I thought he knew who she was. Was surprised he didn't
@Baconlovesreddead
@Baconlovesreddead 10 месяцев назад
They’re British so I don’t like them
@dominicharvey6048
@dominicharvey6048 10 месяцев назад
@RipVanWinkle3 rude. There is nothing wrong with the UK. I still have 3 teeth left.
@AndersKingBee
@AndersKingBee 10 месяцев назад
Pretty sure Niandra uses they/it pronouns. But yeah, they’re one of my favourite Mercy creators. :)
@Amir-zm2zo
@Amir-zm2zo 10 месяцев назад
​@@AndersKingBee don't mean to be offensive here but you said IT pronouns? is that an actual thing?? I've heard of they/them or they/he/she etc.. but it's my first time hearing about it pronouns, I also love Niandra, watching their videos has definitely made me a better mercy
@Lix0r
@Lix0r 10 месяцев назад
"Coach Gun is Ashe's most important cooldown." *uses it to ignite dynamite*
@TotalTrashDPS
@TotalTrashDPS 9 месяцев назад
ashe main here, that is only a good idea in ONE scenario, Genji ENGAGES on you with dash and starts reflecting. reason for that is you throw dynamite over him so he doesn't reflect then coach bc the reflected bullets will get you even farther from him and he will be on fire at same time. so yhea pretty much never a good idea.
@therealdude707
@therealdude707 10 месяцев назад
Flats' last rant is so true. You'll have a setup going. One person will ruin it. Then, complain that everyone else has to accommodate that person.
@SecureBirch410
@SecureBirch410 10 месяцев назад
Well it's usually the tank that decides the set up. Like you can't play poke with a doomfist or a ball, or rush with a sigma. Whereas if there's just one DPS or support that doesn't fit the comp it's not a big deal. Though really you should just play what you're best at. Depends on rank but good one tricks for example can make anything work.
@therealdude707
@therealdude707 10 месяцев назад
@isaacsimpson8098 Yeah, forcing a meta on people is a recipe for disaster. But it's still annoying to have a Lucio, Moira, rein, Mei, and your 2nd DPS goes pharah. Then, complain about healing.
@weebtrash3376
@weebtrash3376 10 месяцев назад
@@SecureBirch410 I’d argue it’s the supports that decides the set up. I’ve had a Doom, Tracer, Genji comp and what did the supports pick? Mercy/Zen. You can guess what a shocker it was when we lost because both the supports kept dying first due to the fact that Zen couldn’t keep up with the dive and Mercy was constantly exposed because it was a dive comp yet the 2 supports decided to hamfist 2 poke orientated supports for it
@SecureBirch410
@SecureBirch410 10 месяцев назад
@@weebtrash3376yeah but if just one of those supports switched if wouldve been fine. The fact you were playing dive was mostly determined by the doom, had the tank picked sigma, it only takes 1 dps to go to something like ashe and suddenly you have a pretty good comp that can do a lot of damage. But honestly im not too familiar with comps, theres not much point stressing about it because you cant control what your teamates play. That game you just described was entirely winnable, you dont lose off match up because you have a so called bad comp, just like you don't auto win because you happen to have a good one. Even in top 500 people don't have to co-ordination to play comps to the full potential. So unless its owl at best you should just use it to decide which one of your mains to play into your teammates.
@vinyltnt3094
@vinyltnt3094 10 месяцев назад
I just gotta say that flats takes are actually on point, tank is the most bullied role in the game
@shuzilong
@shuzilong 10 месяцев назад
Spittin Faqin FACTS man!
@blackm4niac
@blackm4niac 10 месяцев назад
No other role in the game is as reliant on what the other players on their team pick than Tank. Like if you pick rein and your supports pick Mercy Zen? Good fkin luck mate, you are going to be either dead on cooldown or everyone else is going to be dead on cooldown and then you'll die because the Mercy Zen only heal you, because they have to. Like Mercy Zen kinda forces you to play something like Ball or Doomfist, because then you don't need to care about them not being able to fully heal you all the time. Or Hog because you can selfheal. Or Junkerqueen but I dunno.
@nightshade3115
@nightshade3115 10 месяцев назад
@@blackm4niac if you want to play queen witha mercy zen, the enemy team needs to continuedly feed you 2+ person carnages and you need to hit nigh on every knife, of course this depends on what the enemy team picked but still
@neondead2.0.15
@neondead2.0.15 10 месяцев назад
​@@blackm4niaczen can put orb on you and mercy can heal you sometimes. I think you just didn't had a good mercy/zen combo.
@SecureBirch410
@SecureBirch410 10 месяцев назад
@@neondead2.0.15 yeah it can absolutely delete things. Say you've got like an ashe and a tracer or something that are hitting their shots and putting pressure. You can get healed once everything is dead.
@alittlebirdi
@alittlebirdi 10 месяцев назад
Man should have clicked off that "Support is balanced" when he got to Zen and didn't even acknowledge the existence of discord orb.
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
Yes he's trash right now Yes I know discord is a strong ability and it's really a pain for brawl tanks when zen was on the right com(poke) but aside from that he was very easy to counter he was most of the time loosing to a flank or to snipers on the other team and dive comps completely shut him down making him unplayable He was not that bad before the nerfs he was certainly stronger than Lucio at the time but not enough to be op even during the times where bastion was op he wasn't that much of a problem Certainly a problem for some tank but that's his thing being a tank buster , a glass Cannon tank buster that shreds brawl is not bad against poke and is really bad against dive Right now I'm talking about before nerfs now he's barely useable,a PvE map explorer simulator at best he doesn't even counter anyone anymore,DPS moira is more of a viable strategy than playing him, good luck trying to not get flamed every micro second with that guy in the meantime imma enjoy myself with some other fun characters like doomfist
@fettbub92
@fettbub92 10 месяцев назад
Around 12:00 Flats explains why tank is the loneliest role in Overwatch.
@emmadeoude
@emmadeoude 10 месяцев назад
Lol that last part hit home so much. I play a lot of Winston, if I dont get an Ana or Kiriko, I just go Ball, that way I don’t rely on teammates 😊
@Axis0504
@Axis0504 10 месяцев назад
love the moira mercy in my team typing "tank diff" when the enemy team has ana kiriko.
@_EXP626_
@_EXP626_ 10 месяцев назад
Won’t Brig always be strong because wasn’t she made to stop dive? I wouldn’t say she’s broken, but she’s really strong yes.
@Kyrious
@Kyrious 10 месяцев назад
12:30 Flats is cooking. I say this every time yet people still say Tank diff.
@zantiquechm3960
@zantiquechm3960 10 месяцев назад
He was cooking his ass off right here.
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
To be fair I only say tank diff when it's an actual tank diff
@justyamoshi3438
@justyamoshi3438 10 месяцев назад
Flats should make a video discussing the proper support and dps for each tank
@ELI-521
@ELI-521 10 месяцев назад
No such thing. Which dps or support you play depends on meta, map, characters your team pick, and or characters the enemy teams picks
@TheLuw1997
@TheLuw1997 10 месяцев назад
Lucio for all!!!
@batatanna
@batatanna 10 месяцев назад
There is a right pick. If your tank is a dive tank, you play dive sups and dps; poke tank, poke sups and dps; brawl tank, brawl dps and lucio + bap. The only special cases is Ball comps that you play sombra, echo/tracer and brig zen, or junker comps that you play kiriko, ana/brig, genji and whatever other dps. @@ELI-521
@The-hamster2471
@The-hamster2471 10 месяцев назад
I guess but there would be no point as the meta and balance of characters change all the time.
@Alex_Aramayo
@Alex_Aramayo 10 месяцев назад
Honestly that video isn't need...just put some thought into it
@z.b.oakley8467
@z.b.oakley8467 10 месяцев назад
Personal opinion on "fun" tanks is that what Flats said is true, but only because you'll have around three or four tanks meta at the same time.
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632
@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 10 месяцев назад
the bad tanks are always the "fun" tanks because you'll never HAVE to play them. you only play them when you want to
@shootingstar.3789
@shootingstar.3789 10 месяцев назад
"you could pick *hanzo*" sure, if you wanna learn how to climb up walls like a cockroach, spam at chokes and not really learn anything with your building sized hitboxes.
@ZER0punk
@ZER0punk 10 месяцев назад
I think people like a challenge. If a tank (or any hero) is too over powered it's boring to play as and oppressive to play against. While if a tank is underpowered it becomes more challenging and therefore more rewarding when you do well. Same when you are in a match and the enemy swaps to counter you and you mop the floor with them. Any time you are in a scenario that you should lose but you don't makes you feel like you are better and more skilled at the game and/or hero. So you have more fun.
@Zero_Shift
@Zero_Shift 10 месяцев назад
11:10 I always liked hog, went to mid gm in OW1 with him, before the 20 nerfs and changes. On the contrary, I never liked DPSFist but I like tankfist. Unfortunately, it's borderline throwing to play doomfist if the enemy has orisa or hog. Ball and Dva were never fun and always oppressive and annoying.
@Neeeeeeeeeto
@Neeeeeeeeeto 10 месяцев назад
im a flex player flats is 100% when he says people dont make good suport and dps comps . It is not something that only affects tanks, but they are the most affected, bc they cant do anything without a follow up. DPS are good if you wanna pew pew pow pow and suport if you just wanna chill,but tank is good if you want a challenge , if you want to tryhard and suffer a bit
@davidnuke373
@davidnuke373 10 месяцев назад
For the last vid, I think it's more of not people wanting to talk about it. It's more of no one knows who works best with who and blames it on the single tank that's "supposed" to carry the game.
@333Abs
@333Abs 10 месяцев назад
My support hot take is that ignoring the other roles they’re the most balanced, as they’re pretty much all viable. They should try to buff up tank and dps to a similar level where any tank/dps is a decent pick. Unlike now. Instead of nerfing supports to be in a bad state like the other roles are.
@cime62
@cime62 10 месяцев назад
OMG. My drug. Also for the 1st tips, Niandra is a super nice person to learn Mercy techs with!
@AarPlays
@AarPlays 10 месяцев назад
Surprise surprise it's a team game and when you don't make team comps one of your roles gets rolled.
@Nortio
@Nortio 10 месяцев назад
That support guy was so wrong I can't even comprehend what galaxy he could possibly be coming from. As a support player and ana main. Supports are still busted and have the most power over the game
@tesladoesyt974
@tesladoesyt974 10 месяцев назад
The "correct" comp can also be extremely situational. For example, the default dive comp is what Flats mentioned. However, other options like Ana Zen are viable, albeit a greedy support line, when the enemy plays a Rush comp and not a dive. Brig doesn't need to protect the Ana and just stands there doing nothing. You could make an argument that she could pack the DPS like Genji and Tracer but at that point, Zen could be a better option especially with the 5 second buff to harmony. Though I do get that rank players are not going to necessary want or know how to play optimal picks i.e. forcing Mercy in full dive
@Alex_Aramayo
@Alex_Aramayo 10 месяцев назад
Literally why China threw (Ana Brig) should've been Ana Bap, maybe even Ana LW to support their dives, they struggled supporting their team on high ground & Ana got solo ulted like 5 times for a reason
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
Ana zen is a bad comp for many reasons Reason number 1 there is zen in it That's enough reason to not play it
@ultrahotwings9738
@ultrahotwings9738 10 месяцев назад
Wait, what's wrong with Ana/Mercy? Isn't it a variant of dive to run Mercy with Pharah/Soldier/Echo to off-angle on your dives, while Mercy can use GA to peel Ana if she gets dove? That used to be run all the time in OW1 and I still see it in OW2 scrims (at least at the 3k level), although I see a lot more Ana/Kiri in dive comps..
@t-phil76
@t-phil76 10 месяцев назад
flats was cooking at the end
@parkerlarson6692
@parkerlarson6692 10 месяцев назад
OVERWATCH HOT TAKE: Ramattra is Just old Orisa playstyle Zoner shield poker with a close quarter Buff when pressured Also jhas a keep close tool
@DatMageDoe
@DatMageDoe 10 месяцев назад
For most people, "Playing Meta" is a waste of time. Play what you want/are good at, not what "the Comp" needs. 99.9% of players are nowhere near good enough to say that their main hero choice is the limiting factor to their success. Most players get more mileage being particularly good at a small group of heroes rather than being "OK" at a large swathe of the cast. Learning a single hero extensively means you learn how to play in suboptimal conditions, like when the enemy team is running your counter, or when your team doesn't fit your hero's desired playstyle.
@the_jestyr583
@the_jestyr583 10 месяцев назад
Genuine question for that last take. If the tank wants to play dive, the dps want to play poke, and the supports are split, who decides which comp they will play? If it's always the tank, you run the risk of tyrannical tanks forcing entire teams down the playstyle they want to play every game, but if it's not, the tank is left just flex picking every game, which isn't fair to them.
@droal.
@droal. 10 месяцев назад
Niandra is just doing great stuff as always
@varsinious477
@varsinious477 10 месяцев назад
At this point as a tank main, I just don't give a fuck any more. I'm just going to play Queen or Sigma and don't care if my team matches my comp. I'm just going to do me
@bananamations379
@bananamations379 10 месяцев назад
Extremely hot take: Overwatch is way better when you completely ignore all meta and just play whoever and have fun
@JacobLeex
@JacobLeex 10 месяцев назад
Dude thats a good point. When the tank is towards the lower tiers the games are more fun. Is this why the average player thinks they're broken?
@asimplewizard
@asimplewizard 10 месяцев назад
I agree with the Ashe takes though. It's good for new players to go through the process of learning high ground and positioning
@CowKirbo
@CowKirbo 10 месяцев назад
Also the dynamite coach gun thing is a useful combo when someone is in your face and you wanna get the damage.
@Pam234
@Pam234 10 месяцев назад
You can Do that with any other character. Just like play soldier.
@defaultdan7923
@defaultdan7923 10 месяцев назад
i can see where you’re coming from, but again, it really is a “throwing a child into an ocean” kind of thing. new players can quickly get disheartened if they are constantly losing games.
@asimplewizard
@asimplewizard 10 месяцев назад
@@defaultdan7923 I don't think I agree with that take either, but I'll also just outright say I usually think trial by fire is the best way to learn something. I think Ashe is extremely beginner friendly. She's reliable at all ranges, can take high ground easier than soldier, and is harder to punish for bad positioning than Soldier, Widow, Hanzo, and a lot of DPS characters who would need to remove themselves from a fight to reposition. A new player learns all the fundamentals in a hands-on way with a character that has a lot of power and works great for the current meta. And "just play soldier" is super counterintuitive for people trying to learn Overwatch imo. He's just CoD the character, and I think it's actually MUCH harder for new players to understand that soldier isn't CoD, he's a DoT-based character who controls zones and high ground and deals sustained damage. Ashe's coach gun is one of the best DPS abilities in the game and teaches you EVERYTHING about positioning, movement, counterplay, avoiding dives, etc.
@defaultdan7923
@defaultdan7923 10 месяцев назад
@@asimplewizard that’s actually completely fair. i agree that soldier is probably not good to start learning after a little bit, because he does seem like you play him like cod if you’re just starting out. i also actually do think that trial by fire is a good learning strategy (ive done it myself countless times), but the thing it, not everyone learns that way. a lot of people do like baby steps, so saying everyone should start with ashe is a little bit much. edit: also want to add that while ashe may seem simple to most of us, many beginners likely don’t even understand these concepts of positioning and high ground. they’ll see their team posted up down main (likely right next to enemy spawn) and think, “i need to be there!” they also may not be the most mechanically gifted either. again, lots to improve on, which is great for some, but daunting for others.
@mage0534
@mage0534 10 месяцев назад
"The most fun tanks are those who are the most shit" let's be honest though, doom movement is fun af though, period
@hollyrowlands6943
@hollyrowlands6943 10 месяцев назад
to be fair Junker Queen has always been fun regardless of whether or not she is meta
@Daonlymilkman
@Daonlymilkman 10 месяцев назад
Flats’ hot take is not a hot take. Tank players always get shit on by the rest of the team. Never praised either
@michaelmooney1686
@michaelmooney1686 10 месяцев назад
'Ashe is less mechanically intensive and much more aim reliant' so ur aim isnt included in mechanics???
@Skele_Rat
@Skele_Rat 10 месяцев назад
As Ashe main, the coach gun is a good one if you are trying to escape with low health. It'll create distance and put people on fire. It's a rare occasion but it's worth using sometimes.
@thewarmwind6171
@thewarmwind6171 10 месяцев назад
Sure, but it's not a tip you give new players as a "good combo". You need to know the when and why to use the combo and not just be throwing two cooldowns in the garbage. The point is that while the tips weren't necessarily bad, they're not for beginners. Dude is talking about pulling out cooldowns. A beginner doesn't even have the context to know what that means. Ashe is not a good pick for beginners.
@TotalTrashDPS
@TotalTrashDPS 9 месяцев назад
ashe main here, the "combo" (it's really not a combo) is only a good idea in ONE scenario, Genji ENGAGES on you with dash and starts reflecting. reason for that is you throw dynamite over him so he doesn't reflect then coach bc the reflected bullets will get you even farther from him and he will be on fire at same time. so yhea pretty much never a good idea.@@thewarmwind6171 but yhea 100% agree, not a good beginner pick but a damn good intermediate pick bc it more heavily forces you to improve on what you've learned while not being too harsh on you for not fully understanding things like positioning.
@soaksoped_feline9888
@soaksoped_feline9888 10 месяцев назад
flats saying “winston isn’t broken because those statistics are based on owl” and then crying about brig and using a statistic that she was used SLIGHTLY more than other supports in owl is wild LMAO hypocrisy at its finest. (i’m not saying winston is broken, just that flats can’t say winston isn’t broken for this reason but then use that reason to claim brig is broken”
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
the same way he cried about zen until he got butshured he will complain about brig until she gets cut off play her and enjoy every momment soon she will be no more
@iunappears6746
@iunappears6746 10 месяцев назад
Maybe a hot take but I think Ana shouldn’t have full heal on nano.
@ethanandrews7228
@ethanandrews7228 10 месяцев назад
That second guy is cooking 🗣️ and he’s burning the food 🔥
@gabe4602
@gabe4602 10 месяцев назад
Whenever I see the guy from the Winston is broken video I always just know I’m about to hear the wildest take ever
@soaksoped_feline9888
@soaksoped_feline9888 10 месяцев назад
cant watch flats anymore without hearing ONE or more complaints or whine about brig
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
i m telling you she s the new target next season he will stat complaining that she is soo broken that it completely shuts down every tank
@Nao-pj7mc
@Nao-pj7mc 10 месяцев назад
The last take is the best ive heard in a long time, DPS players can usually get away with playing whatever hero they want as long as its not complete garbage, tanks cant do that but they have options but since the support mindset is still so heavily healing focused, no one seems to think about what their heroes kit is. Its almost as if support players see bap, moira, ana, kiriko and mercy as the same hero just because they heal quite a bit.
@redpandagamer4332
@redpandagamer4332 10 месяцев назад
Me who hates doomfist whether he’s good or bad: *Superiority noises*
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 10 месяцев назад
The worst feeling is when I see our tank go Ball, and I go Tracer for the ez wombo combos - and then randomly midway through 1st point cap, the Ball just swaps to Orisa or some shit cus one backline player is complaining about an enemy doomfist and cries for peel.. Like we'll have a 90% good dive comp that's working, but one complainer just fucks it all up lol
@mikejowan3340
@mikejowan3340 10 месяцев назад
who actually enjoys playing orisa though
@tyrollclimaco6088
@tyrollclimaco6088 10 месяцев назад
You cannot please overwatch players!!
@Bacchus325
@Bacchus325 10 месяцев назад
How tf is Brig broken lol
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
Because The pie she made for herself was stolen by a fox and that broke her That's what motivated her to beat evil with rein
@foxfantics7863
@foxfantics7863 10 месяцев назад
I main doom and I find him very frustrating especially if they have a good meta tank
@katiekaliber
@katiekaliber 4 месяца назад
I love playing lucio with rein but i play in gold and people report me for playing lucio because 'he doesn't heal enough'. Hell, people even tell me to swap and have reported me for playing lucio in quick play. I don't think you understand how messed up the majority of the community actually is lmfao. It's fucking sad man.
@ESPA333
@ESPA333 10 месяцев назад
I apologize to all my tanks who take heat for being bad when I have to switch to Zen to make up for dmg dropping the ball even though I know an Ana or Kiri would do better. One must trust in the instincts of the meat shield to make best use of the balls
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
Master how haven't you lost your sanity yet with his current state ,I couldn't do it and already started maining doom How can I come back to the Way of the balls
@ESPA333
@ESPA333 10 месяцев назад
@@omarsali2990 I focus on my breathing. ;) I think it comes down to focusing on more map awareness and positioning now with his changes. Knowing the flank routes and where to take high ground as Zen is now a must more so than before. Especially since the biggest problem is having to play closer once you realize a Sombra who only touching you virus spams is out there and being easier for the dps to get at. What makes me keep playing on the path of balls is how satisfying it is to land those juicy headshots against widows and genjis. The projectiles just feel natural to lead and when they hit chefs kiss.
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
thank you sensei i will go now to the balsy path to achive ballsiness and with your advise its more than achieveable@@ESPA333
@yandxxl1659
@yandxxl1659 10 месяцев назад
The Cassidy soldier line at the end was the most accurate rant I’ve ever heard bro.💀💀💀
@m3tal.
@m3tal. 10 месяцев назад
As a noob player I always see my tank trying to 1v5 the whole team over and over and push past an objective by themselves to get instantly killed and I kind of agree with the blame tank players thing because me vs a random tank I always play with the team and they never do but maybe it's just a low skill level type thing lol
@mr9r
@mr9r 10 месяцев назад
I love playing as Lucio he is SO FUN with his movement and ability to make his team uber-aggressive even though he's not my main, if I see our tank pick Rein I will pick Lucio 100% of the time and get flamed by my teammates for not picking a heal bot even though they have no idea how many times I've pulled them out of fights thay they would surely have died if I didn't speed boost them out of it
@chaoticgay7257
@chaoticgay7257 10 месяцев назад
12:35 “Hot” take No game Ever Should be designed like this It’s a game, I’m here to have fun. Yes comp needs to exist. But there needs to be enough balance so THIS MENTALITY DOESNT EXIST Yes meta will always exist, but it’s also so GLARINGLY bad in OW 2 it’s ridiculous. I cannot tell you the last time I booted up a game that was pvp based and went “hey I wanna play this character” and my immediate 2nd thought was “oh wait but this exists” Ana’s a good example I wanna play lifeweaver so I can feel like a *support* and heal my team and save their lives, without having to worry too much about dealing. “Stop playing lifeweaver we need an Ana” I’m not shitting on you Flats, it’s no ones fault but Blizzard (maybe devs? But I doubt it) because it’s a balancing problem
@nathanwinters2400
@nathanwinters2400 10 месяцев назад
Dude really blamed the tank role as a whole? Bruh I mostly play Support-- and bc of how OP it has been, when one of the supports isn't dominating via kills + heals THAT loses the game. Soldier doing bad? Play Bap. Enemy Sniper wrecking your DPS? Go Illari. I HATE touching the DPS role rn bc any support can outplay you if they're sweating for the kill. But when I go Junker Queen on Tank role instead of Orisa/Ram I generally win those games bc I'm aggressive AF to the point that my Supports are killing their back-line while I spam "I have bodies to bag." Really, really can't wait for my role to return to SUPPORTING instead of always having to carry for damage and kills. Not even a brag, it's not fun to be the "everything" role that's supposed to be 1/3 roles with SOME hybrid-ability on select heroes.
@Kuweiyo
@Kuweiyo 10 месяцев назад
Supports are not broken, definitely not brig.
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 10 месяцев назад
And zen especially right now
@dashvash5440
@dashvash5440 6 месяцев назад
I've been big into Overwatch lately, and am just learning to aim. I watched several hours of Ashe tutorial type stuff and no one actually said what you said about shooting the dynamite. Wow it isn't impossible like I thought. No worries I am a Soldier 76, Bastion, and Torb (aim is ass but turret op). I like practicing on all the heroes and one day I will be able to hit Torb shots in the Aim Train Custom Game, luckily no one moves around as much as the bots. Since you, Emongg, and Frogger are my go to OW content I wanted to play tank but my nerves couldn't handle it. I don't think I can do what Frogger does, it's really different. DPS is nice, I can Soldier, put out middling or better numbers but know that I didn't convert dmg into anything meaningful. While the tank is front and center, at least at your rank there are comms.
@WhydTheyChangeOurNames
@WhydTheyChangeOurNames 10 месяцев назад
I think youre wrong about which tanks are fun = they are ass argument. Beta Orisa was fun because it was something new and different. Doom has always and will always be fun to me. Yes, a really good Doom can feel unkillable but thats because of all the CC nerfs, all highly mobile characters benefited from them being dialed back but this leads to a larger discussion on how CC wasn't ACTUALLY the problem, it was how little protection tanks had from BEING CC'd and specifically being chain CC'd. In short, add a buffer of say 1 second where after youve been CC'd you are immune to all CC effects and tada chain CC tanks in viability (Sombra still needed neutered). Ball is also incredibly fun because people love highly mobile characters and thats just a fact. Look at the most main-ed characters and its (in no particular order) Tracer, Genji, Mercy, Lucio, and the outlier is Reinhardt. He's the only one who isnt highly mobile but he feels like quintessential Overwatch and a Rein 1v1 is one of the most fun things in the entire game, people just LOVE mobility. No one wants to feel shackled to their position or forced to go around to take away high ground, just go Winston Doom DVA or Ball and MAKE them give up high ground. We all know Hog mains are just DPS players that want more HP. Tank players don't like to play Hog because he has NEVER been an actual Tank. The DPS mains picking Hog dont like when he is good because they get rolled by the Tank players who know how to protect their teams better. They like when he specifically is niche because they can play him and not get smoked in a Hog 1v1. We dont like heroes when theyre ass, we just like highly mobile characters and when the meta becomes shit like Orisa, Sig, or Ram its boring as shit but when the mobile characters get meta, they are swiftly nerfed because they can cover too much ground and just outclass any of the nonmobile tanks.
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