Paper Mario Is Dead - Nintendrone

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Since the recent announcement of Paper Mario: Color Splash, I thought I would give my opinions of the Paper Mario series.
Paper Mario and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door were all great additions to the series, establishing a gimmicky turn based RPG beloved by many.
The series in recent has been under a steady decline, slowly removing everything loved by fans. It's been over a decade since a proper Paper Mario game and there are currently more spinoff games in the works.
I'm for one glad that Nintendo has been able to come up with unique and interesting ways to ruin the Paper Mario series.
I just finished up most of my thoughts of each game a couple of separate videos. Paper Mario is a fun little quick video, while The Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario are much more in depth.
Paper Mario: • Paper Mario - Uncivil ...
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door: • Paper Mario: The Thous...
Super Paper Mario: • Super Paper Mario - Un...
Paper Mario Color Splash: • Paper Mario Color Spla...

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@HazyMazy 8 лет назад

Maybe Super Paper Mario didn't have the absolute best gameplay, but the story was DEEP, man.

@cubexgaming6215 8 лет назад

Oh but according to the nostalgics: 0/10 no badges or turn-based battle

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

+CubexGaming hey did you delete your comment where we were all talking about paper Mario I can't seem to find it when I try to reply to people who recently replied

@babloo1666 8 лет назад

I cried at the end.

@cubexgaming6215 8 лет назад

Slenderfoxx37 I think I did, it was getting out of hand

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

I'll honestly probably replay it at some point and see if it's any better.

@bcarri2014 8 лет назад

I'm surprised you didn't make a rant about the fact Sticker Star was in fact going to be like Thousand Year Door ... but Miyamoto was like "lol this is too similar to Thousand Year Door", so he wanted to change it entirely. Dream Team was originally going to face a similar fate, but Alpha Dream wasn't going to have any of that.

@Roberto-mm4gr 8 лет назад

looks like he won tho since paper jam is extremely generic

@Roberto-mm4gr 8 лет назад

looks like he won tho since paper jam is extremely generic

@SorachiJirachi 8 лет назад

Actually, the genericness of Paper Jam was a decision AlphaDream made themselves as adding in all the Paper Mario characters made it very difficult for them to place original characters and settings into the story. This led to more focus on characterisation of pre-existing characters.

@Masterge77 8 лет назад

I know, sad, isn't it? Miyamoto basically went all George Lucas on Paper Mario and took direct control over it, and turned Sticker Star into basically another NSMB-like platformer, which seems to be almost every Mario game anymore. I dunno about you, but Mario has kinda gotten stale to me, it's not innovative anymore, it's too same-y as of lately, and even the most hardcore fans are getting tired of it.

@Masterge77 8 лет назад

***** Somewhat, yes, though I personally think the franchise has lost it's luster in recent years, and it arguably has since SMG2 came out.

@theluigifan1 8 лет назад

I don't agree with you on Super Paper Mario, honestly. Yes, the gameplay was meh and the partners/Pixls could've been given more personality (Instead of, besides Tippi, being completely silent after their introductions) but it's STILL a Paper Mario game. It still had a great story (which, arguably, goes beyond even TTYD's story) unique environments, one of the most unique cast of characters in any Mario game to date, and of course, a fantastic soundtrack. And even in terms of gameplay, I found the 3D mechanic interesting and I found the abilities of the four heroes really fun and versatile to use. I honestly feel like the true decline for Paper Mario started with Sticker Star. But other than SPM, I agree with you, man.

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

+theluigifan1 Well I did definitely gloss over a lot of the positive points of the game, the story and personality are really good for what it is, and I would be lying if I said it was outright terrible. The story carries the entire experience and it's really the major reason I followed it through to the end. I wouldn't even say that it was a decline in quality, but more of a change in direction that most fans didn't seem to like. I cut a major part of video where I was going to talk about Paper Mario: Color Splash and how it could be a good game in its own right, but I think the reason so many people are frustrated is because of the change in direction and its obvious relationship with Sticker Star. Personally, I don't feel like Super Paper Mario is a Paper Mario game because the change in direction undermines the foundation of the series. Everyone kind of sets this line in the sand on what makes a sequel a sequel, and my line is set where the game play is similar. As amazing as the story is, I don't think the story alone makes it a true sequel. I could talk about this for hours, but I kind of just highlighted the change the direction in the video. Thanks for watching, very much appreciated. I love discussing this stuff!

@theluigifan1 8 лет назад

HyperCharge You're welcome, dude! I enjoy discussing this stuff too! I definitely understand where you're coming from and I definitely understand why fans were turned off by SPM when it was first released.

@SuperMarioFan123311 8 лет назад

+HyperCharge I wouldn't compare SPM to NSMB, NSMB for instance is just rehashed things, If anything SPM felt like a Super Mario World-Land type game in terms of mechanics and all. The problems with NSMB2 and SMBU is that they don't even add anything new, Turning it into the equivalent of a Hello Clone from MFGG.

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

+SuperMarioFan123311 I get where your coming from. I still think it is fair to compare the New Super Mario Bros series with Super Paper Mario because that is what Super Paper Mario took inspiration from, the reason 'Super' is in the title. The original Paper Mario games had some linearity to them, but they still felt like fleshed out worlds. Super Paper Mario is basically a hub world, which doors leading to world 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, following the level structure from the Super Mario Bros series. Once you beat the levels, they are extremely boring to go through again, since they are so linear in nature.

@SuperMarioFan123311 8 лет назад

HyperCharge SPM had so much original content that the NSMB series never has had.

@TheActMan 8 лет назад

Really good video, man! Glad you're making these videos on Paper Mario! I thought this one was hilarious as hell!

@ohnhorowitz2273 3 года назад

@Alex Schott fucking right!? Act man knew this channel was gold years ago and hypercharge deserves way more subs

@theglacier3367 3 года назад

@@ohnhorowitz2273 Right? I'm surprised that there aren't hundreds of comments on Act Man's thread.

@fawfulthegreat64 8 лет назад

Personally SPM is my favorite, but I play these games mainly for the story. That's why I hate Sticker Star and assume Color Splash will also be bad.

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

Same if I had to chose story or rpg like turned based battles which sticker stars sucked too....I would pick story and creativeness over turned based battles😌

@Dragular 3 года назад

@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook There is nothing wrong with him. People value different things in video games.

@user-gk4jp6lt2b 3 года назад

That one’s my favorite as well, but I never played TTYD so it probably would be my favorite.

@fawfulthegreat64 3 года назад

@@Dragular I assume the comment you're replying to is deleted, but assuming they and you are referring to me, I'm she/her :)

@Dragular 3 года назад

@@fawfulthegreat64 Ah okay then. Thanks for clarifying. 👍

@Ueeeeeeehhhheeeeh 8 лет назад

Eurgh, the hate towards SPM made me cringe, sticker star was horrible. Tedious gameplay and a boring story but Super Paper Mario had great level design, a very intuitive level-up system and easily the best story in the series. I played every game and I consider SPM just as good as TYD. People just hate it cause its different.

@extremmefan7305 8 лет назад

+Zackarie Savard Yes, it's good in its own right. (Then again, its similarity towards the original Mario games was hinted by the fact that it was called *Super* Paper *Mario*)

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

Yeah I agree i love it almost as much as TTYD.... I like thousand year door a little more I think but not much at all really then I also really love paper Mario so if I HAD to choose an order it would probably be 1)TTYD 2)SPM 3)PM 4)still waiting for another paper Mario to come out ?!?) idk even know what sticker star and colour splash are.....are they even games?..... They don't make it on the paper Mario list they come in first for the WTF are these list😂

@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook 5 лет назад

"but Super Paper Mario had great level design, a very intuitive level-up system and easily the best story in the series" Great level design? Are you joking?? A very intuitive level-up system,again. You are definetly joking or a troll. Maybe i could agree with the story.

@crazye639 8 лет назад

Nintendo using the logic of "oh, we don't need two Mario RPGs" and ruining one is the same as them going "Oh, we don't need two platforming series" and making the Kirby series a FPS.

@user-gk4jp6lt2b 3 года назад

Then why does Mario have so many sports games?

@stormcutter59 8 лет назад

I think that the series is beyond repair. Nintendo aren't going to listen to their fans......the real fans not the furniture

@mothslug4387 8 лет назад

the furniture of law enforcement?

@keife1991 8 лет назад

+Joseph Franc you cant make a good sequal to a console game on a handheld, it doesnt work for zelda, it doesnt work, so paper mario will be saved when they realize paper mario is not a handheld game, i just hope when color splash tanks they will realize this and go back to making paper mario a console game.

@mothslug4387 8 лет назад

keife1991 paper mario color splash is going to be for the wii u you moron

@keife1991 8 лет назад

Cringe you moron, the wii u is a handheld, thats why it failed, they tried to make a handheld console, it ended up having few third party support and no one wanted it. maybe the nx might redeem them and be a passable console, but only if it emphasizes the console part and just supplements as a handheld, instead of the opposite.

@PeppersnoopTT 8 лет назад

+keife1991 As if you couldn't be any more of a moron, you literally just called the Wii U a portable console. Like, what the fuck? The 3DS is their portable console for this generation. The Wii U is CLEARLY a home console (hell, I can't take my gamepad out of the same fucking room as the console, I can tell ya that) Geez, kid, so some damn research.

@CaptainJiggles11 8 лет назад

I forgot how amazing the first two were. Super Paper Mario was really enjoyable, except it wasn't exactly what I expected from the prior experiences. Sticker Star lost my attention after a week. It SUCKED. This series needs to come back to it's original formula, and Nintendo needs to get everything together.

@shydude7173 8 лет назад

people blame it on nintendo but its miyamotos fault

@KoroxasHeart 8 лет назад

Miyamoto goal is to have Paper mario be like Super Mario Bros. Wii with little puzzle as possible and make more on money profit.

@shydude7173 8 лет назад

if only intelligent systems would go behind his back and change it

@shydude7173 8 лет назад

***** what do you mean

@shydude7173 8 лет назад

***** i know who they are but did they go behind miyamoto's back and change the games

@TopHatLucario 8 лет назад

People say that Sonic is dead. But I'd say Paper Mario is even more dead than Sonic.

@DarkkirbyKRPG 8 лет назад

+TopHatLucario Sonic at least has a few good games under his belt from 2008 onwards, which shows hope. Paper Mario has been going the wrong track since 2007.

@TopHatLucario 8 лет назад

DarkK~ Nuh uh. I love Super Paper Mario!

@DarkkirbyKRPG 8 лет назад

TopHatLucario It is where its downfall began, whether you want to admit it or not. It's where Paper Mario lost its way and became a platformer instead of an RPG. A perfectly ok game, but doesn't even come close to the first 2 games, mostly because of its boring gameplay.

@TopHatLucario 8 лет назад

DarkK~ I prefer Super Paper Mario over the original on 64.

@DarkkirbyKRPG 8 лет назад

TopHatLucario Good for ya?

@horokeusensei 8 лет назад

As someone who completed Sticker Star with 100%, I can say that this game is broken and unfinished."Things" are badly explained, and you lost them if you try to use one on the wrong place, which doesnt make any sense, cause you would still be able to use them on battle. The last 3 or 4 stages felt rushed, and you can notice that by looking how Bowser's Castle felt empty and with no climax whatsoever.

@user-gk4jp6lt2b 3 года назад

Everything wrong with Sticker Star: -Bad story (just Bowser touches a sticker then becomes powerful and you have to collect stickers to stop him.) -No partners except for this sassy crown thing that barely even does anything useful besides gimmicks. -No original characters -Generic worlds -The horrible battle system. First of all every attack is disposable. Second of all, no exp making winning battles useless except for coins which you already get plenty of by beating the level. So all battling does is just waste your stickers. -Horrible puzzles. You just get some random inanimate object in a random level, then go all the way back to the hub to turn it into a sticker, then finally go back and use it. The puzzles are just plain dumb. Bonus: Bowser doesn’t talk in this one. He was always a pretty well written character in the old games, but now he just doesn’t talk and is much more boring.

@S113Productions 8 лет назад

Super Paper Mario was awesome, but Paper Mario 64 & TTYD FTW. Sticker Star, that game doesn't exist to me.

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

Also colour splash sucks too

@AzuraTheEnby 8 лет назад

+Slenderfoxx37 dude the game isn't even out yet stop judging it jeez

@S113Productions 8 лет назад

cxdeakins98 We have seen 40 minutes of it. It's pretty much Sticker Star 2.0 with a Paint DLC. Along with another Kersti who has a bitchy temper, and he's a male partner.

@AzuraTheEnby 8 лет назад

+Mario i hope we get to know the backstory on the paint can

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

+cxdeakins98 ok I know some people will say this but I've got lots of reasons to hate this game and that's why everyone does....people have been saying don't judge it when we first got shown only like 7 minutes of footage (really we had tons of footage for colour splash from sticker star😂) but we were right with what way this game was going....and a few things a already see that is a big no is 1) the map/level system so no chapters basically new super mario bros 2) the bosses being like sticker star needing a random special card to beat them in one hit or you lose 3) the bosses are just the fricking koopalings so original and the final boss battle will be bowser....once again and probably won't even talk lol he's like mario now I guess but mario isn't supposed to talk that's the charm 4) same battle system but with all the stickers being cards and the stupid thing objects return 5) no new story since we've already seen lots of footage of what's going on 6) no partners just kersti 2...

@nekonomicon9938 8 лет назад

Honestly Super Paper Mario was my favorite story out of the series

@CalebCraft10 8 лет назад

Agreed 5000%

@jello9256 8 лет назад

+Calebite TBH despite having a nice story, the gameplay-element of super paper mario was somewhat gimmicky, But then again.. I prefer TTYD a bit more.

@TheEraserCrew 8 лет назад

I agree that it's a spinoff and the pixls are kinda lifeless. Otherwise I love the game

@TheSweatyYeti 4 года назад

Whenever people don't understand when I'm complaining about how the series is garbage now, I just show them this video.

@spectrumbots4268 8 лет назад

Has anyone noticed the animations in Sticker Star and to some extent, the upcoming Color Splash are a little choppy compared to the first three games?

@Sharpteeth32 8 лет назад

They're really hammering in how "Papery" it is.

@nyktalgiapeisithanatos832 8 лет назад

You never mentioned the crazy shit that happens in the plot of Super Paper Mario. I guess because you didn't want to spoil it? (one of the only Mario games where the plot is good enough to spoil)

@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook 5 лет назад

As Hypercharge said,he did not like the plot.

@yoshifan3077 8 лет назад

super paper mario wasn't that bad it's a pretty good story pretty dark too but still a good game.

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

+Christopher Ocampo I was a little hard on it in the video, but I don't think it's a terrible game. I just thought it was the weakest in the series up to that point in time. The story in the game is pretty good, but I was super disappointed in the change in game play.

@UltimaSpark50 8 лет назад

+HyperCharge I probably would've liked it better if the god-awful gameplay didn't completely ruin the attempted immersion...

@EMre___64 4 года назад

The characters are soo nicely made though

@alexfraser8352 5 лет назад

Paper Mario: Awesome Thousand year door: amazing Super paper Mario: different but still pretty good Sticker star:💩💩💩

@bunsmasterbunny 8 лет назад

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to completely disagree with you when you say Super Paper Mario isn't a Paper Mario game. A game franchise can make new gameplay styles and go in different directions so long as they are still great and have the essence of what made the franchise beloved to begin with. Super Paper Mario has the best villains in the series, the best plot in the series, it allows you to finally play as Luigi and he and Peach and Bowser are super fun to play as, the 2D 3D mechanic was implemented very well and for a one time only outing the game is a fantastic and very great and fun way to shake up the Paper Mario formula before going back to adding on the original style. Unfortunately they never did that with the game after Super but that isn't Super's fault. All in all, I'd have to say that Super Paper Mario is a real Paper Mario game and is an amazing masterpiece in its own right and it does have the main essence of the franchise in it and is a whole lot of fun to play through even with the first two games being how the standard of the series should be. Plus a sequel doesn't need to continue the plot threads of the previous game in order to be a sequel or take place and exist within the same universe as all the other RPG's and main 3D games so I personally don't understand the complaint with Super not continuing TTYD's ending. TTYD didn't continue Paper Mario 1's story by having Bowser try to steal the Star Rod again or have Mario's partners from that game and Twink come to visit from their homes but it's still a sequel. I hope that didn't sound rude...did it? I want to clarify I'm on your side completely with being really disappointed with Paper Mario as of late, I just personally feel that the series was still great with Super Paper Mario and it didn't start going downhill (and completely fell down the mountain) until Sticker Star.

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

It's nice to see that someone was able to articulate why they like Super Paper Mario. I appreciate the time you spent watching the video and writing this out. I had a good time with Super Paper Mario when I first played it. The change in gameplay was pretty disappointing, but I would say it was worth the purchase. Overtime, my opinion of Super Paper Mario has diminished, because not only is the gameplay not remotely similar to the others in the series, but it represents everything that is wrong with Nintendo at the moment. Nintendo has this problem right now where they keep changing things for no reason other than to change it. It's definitely a mentality that has occurred with the Wii, where Nintendo obnoxiously goes out of it's way to deliver a different experience even at the cost of the players enjoyment. It's the reason you will never see games like Star Fox, F Zero, and Metroid Prime ever again. Nintendo is so focused on delivering a brand new experience that they keep alienating fans of the series that just want something similar and new. Not to pick out Zelda from your screen name, but Zelda is the perfect example of what Nintendo does right. Every time you play a Zelda game, you can expect some puzzles in dungeons, you can expect some fun sword combat, and you can expect a brand new mechanic that wraps everything together, which adds to the story the game will tell. Some mechanics are different than others, Sailing in the Wind Waker, Time Travel in Majora's Mask, Transforming into a Wolf in Twilight Princess, there is always something new to expect, but also something old to retain. I don't want to go too far off on a tangent, but I think Super Paper Mario doesn't follow this criteria. Nintendo took the series Paper Mario, with it's turn based combat and it's little charming story, and transformed the gameplay to platforming for really no reason other than to make it different. The story is on par with the first two games, maybe the best from people who enjoy it, but that's not why I personally play videogames in the first place. A great story can really only be experienced once, where a great videogame can still be entertaining despite already knowing the story. I feel like what makes the first two games special, is that I can replay them different every time. I can equip different badges, create new challenges for myself, and figure out new tricks each time I play. Super Paper Mario doesn't hold up nearly as well as the first two games. It's just so simplified and boring. The story kept me going, because it was interesting in it's own respect, but I have never wanted to replay it ever since it came out. I guess those who liked Super Paper Mario enjoyed Paper Mario for the story, where as people who liked the first two games enjoyed it for the actual videogame part of the videogame. I really like videogames. If I wanted a good story, I could just watch a movie or read a book. I didn't really expect Nintendo to follow up on the story of The Thousand Year Door, but I thought it was a really funny observation. Here Nintendo has all the pieces in place to make another great game, but they just decide to make Super Paper Mario just to mix it up for no reason. It's really frustrating because it would be so easy to do, just make a new Paper Mario game with some turn based RPG elements, maybe build off of the first two games, add a couple new mechanics and characters, it's really all anyone wants at this point. As I said before, Nintendo just won't do it. They are so obsessed with changing things for changes sake that the Paper Mario series will now continue to have more spin-off games. I know it sounds kind of dismissing to call them spin-off games, but it's really the way I describe them as.

@bunsmasterbunny 8 лет назад

HyperCharge Well, you took the time to make the video and it's discussing a topic I'm desperately scounging RU-vid for new videos of on an almost daily basis so it would only be right to watch the video all the way through before commenting on it. I think Super Paper Mario was more of a tribute to the classic 2D Mario games before Nintendo had really jumped ship on the nostalgia pandering route given the time the game came out so I personally really enjoyed the call backs to classic Mario with stuff like the Mega Star and recreations of World 1-1 as well as the level by level gameplay. It still had the feeling of progressing through actual worlds rather than sparsely interconnected tunnels like Sticker Star does and it still had areas within each act with NPC's that had great dialogue for me to enjoy. So, I personally don't think the change was for changes' sake but rather an "Okay, we've pretty much perfected the Paper Mario style of gameplay as great as it can be at this point in time and we've exhausted our minds trying to think up new ways to add to this already built up formula. So for this next game we're going to change the gameplay up to be more like the original games but still be an RPG with the experience points and deep story and memorable characters for a unique and super fun one time outing." That's how I always saw Super as when I played it when it first came out (it's the reason I got a Wii in the first place) rather than a case of them trying to be different because they mistake different for innovation. However after Mister Miyamoto intervened with Sticker Star's development when they were first making it more like the first two games they decided to throw out the one time outing thing and go for change again but this time for the sake of being different. I'm the exact opposite actually. For me gameplay is really fun and I can do replay games for their gameplay, but when a game has a super in depth story with relatable and sympathetic characters I come back to it much more often because I fully enjoy the story and characters all over again. To me story is what truly makes a video game stand out as an art form and a reason to keep coming back rather than the gameplay. So for me the biggest and most disappointing thing about Sticker Star for me was the fact that they drained all personality, story, unique characters, and actual living world from the game and instead felt like they were actively trying to be as lazy as possible with things like Kersti's tattles. The gameplay only makes it even more egregious and makes me despise the game even more but the biggest kicker for me was the bare bones typical Mario story, the generic characters that didn't feel nearly as much like real people as in the previous games, and the objectively bad game design with the battle system. The stuff like incredibly cryptic game design (there's a place for that kind of game design but this isn't it) and the constant force feeding of paper jokes in my face only put more of a bitter taste into my already soured mouth. With that said however I do need to gameplay to be at least high quality and fun for me to replay it, I can't have just a great story for me to replay it because it is a game. No, I completely agree with Sticker Star and Color Splash being called spin off games. Heck, Nintendo themselves even considers them that because they seem like they're taking place in an actual literal world of paper that has no connections to the previous games world with Sticker Star and Color Splash which was featured in Paper Jam whereas the first three games (especially 1 and 2 but Super has connections as well) had direct references and continuity with the platforming and Party and Sports games as well as foreshadowing for Luigi's Mansion thus meaning those games don't exist in a literal paper world but rather a 2D art style of the main game world. I just don't consider Super a spin off so much as one time shake up that works as well as it possibly could (except for the stupid tedious and cryptic stuff in the 5th world with the Craigs and Flower enemies.)

@PokeZeldamon 8 лет назад

I'd honestly go as far s to say that Super Paper Mario is the best, or at least second best Paper Mario game 0_o I mean, holy shit, the 3D element was awesome, the items were really cool, and the boss fights were awesome, and yeah, it's not exactly an rpg like the previous Paper Mario titles, but does is Paper Mario supposed to be a strictly rpg-based branch? Not really, no 0_o

@bunsmasterbunny 8 лет назад

+Ghastcraze I'd have to disagree there. Not about your opinion on the game but with the thing about the series not needing to be strictly an RPG. Super Paper Mario actually IS an RPG as it has experience points based level ups, items to buy to help beat the game and heal and cause status infliction on enemies, foods you can cook to make something better for you to heal yourself with, enemies with big amounts of health that you can't just one and jump defeat, and a great story with memorable and tragic characters that ties everything together and makes for a grand epic adventure. The only things the game lacks that previous games in the series have are memorable partner characters (excluding Tippi who is one of the best characters in the entire series and who Kersti wishes she could be) and turn based combat with badges that can upgrade your power and defenses and can induce status infliction on enemies. Super Paper Mario is an RPG through and through but it has platforming elements mixed into the gameplay as a tribute to the original Super Mario Bros. Games. The Paper Mario (Or Mario Story as how it was originally and should still be called) games should each time be an RPG series as they are all spin offs of a platforming franchise. It would be like making Mario Tennis become a point and click game or Mario Party becoming a visual novel. If something's already a spin off of something else then it should keep its spun off genre intact throughout each installment. I feel that Super Paper Mario does that even with its changed structure.

@PokeZeldamon 8 лет назад

TheZeldaExperienceWithin 22457 I *THINK* I might've forgotten what an rpg was for a sec and associated it strictly with entering battles and turn-based combat, I might've been thinking of Sticker Star, which doesn't really follow the rules of rpgs, and possibly Color Splash, though I'd honestly rather not judge the game *too* much before it even comes out, because that wouldn't make too much sense.

@pikablupikachu9446 8 лет назад

Paper Mario video: "Why did this series have to change everything!" Pokemon video: "Why can't this series change anything!"

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

+Pikablu Pikachu That is fucking hilarious, best comment on the video. I think the difference between Pokemon is that the game play has been consistently good for over 20 years, where the story and pokemon throughout the games can be changed entirely. Pokemon Colosseum is a good example of what I'm talking about. The game has double battles and a unique story, but doesn't start with picking a fire,water, or leaf pokemon, going across the world battling gym leaders, defeating an evil organization. Paper Mario hasn't been nearly as consistent as Pokemon, the first two games in the series had great game play and a story to match it. The problem with the later games in the series is that it changed so much that it isn't even the same series anymore. I seem to be getting a lot of flack for saying Super Paper Mario isn't a good game. I wouldn't say that it is bad, it's just not a Paper Mario game. If the next major Pokemon game was announced and it had the same game play as Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, I would call it a spin off game. A spin off game isn't necessarily a bad game, but if people where telling me that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is in the same series as Pokemon Gold and Silver, I would disagree.

@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 8 лет назад

+HyperCharge aaaaand this guy ignored you and pissed off :(

@classymarowak7001 8 лет назад

Paper mario was a precious flower that was stomped on way to soon.

@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook 5 лет назад

But like 2 months before it got stomped. A drought appeared (SPM)

@CyberKirby 8 лет назад

Grassland Desert Forest Jungle Ice World Fire World Boss. (Mm-cha mm-cha mm-cha mm.)

@wizard1370 3 года назад

lol

@nicchin101 8 лет назад

Grats on 20k on your video! Really enjoy your blunt and crass commentary. Hope your channel continues you grow. :)

@awesomeguy2009 8 лет назад

Lastly, who knows? Maybe that Treasure Map Peach finds at the end of TTYD leads them to Prism Island? That would be cool.

@cruz3608 8 лет назад

If only...

@lucarionite1357 8 лет назад

I certainly hope that their not gonna turn that amazing TTYD sequal chance into a sticker star port.

@soupahmario5869 8 лет назад

Peach was just finishing preparations to go follow the map and get back to the kingdom before the annual Sticker Fest, but before she could go inform the Mario Brothers of their departure, Count Bleck came and started the events of Super Paper Mario. The story took so long that by the time they got back, it was time for the Sticker Fest, and thus Bowser came and brought havoc starting that game. After repairing the kingdom, they finally got the time to follow the map.

@keife1991 8 лет назад

+Soupah Mario thats fucked up, nintendo needs to pull their heads out their asses and give us back our paper mario series.

@RandomAnonymousBeing 8 лет назад

+Phantom Drags Miyamoto ordered no more original characters and no story is allowed in Mario RPGs anymore

@TheSweatyYeti 7 лет назад

Super Paper Mario's story was fine, but besides that, the gameplay was boring, the levels were meh, and the side characters had no personality. The partners literally looked like kindergarten drawings. So yes, it's better than sticker star, but doesn't come close to the first two games

@theutubepower1243 4 года назад

The pixl’s did kinda have a personality, but they never speak again after you unlock them

@ScrambledDragons 8 лет назад

All your videos got me rolling on the floor dude. You tell your point of views so well that your videos is addicting. You're gonna blow up on RU-vid one day. Keep up the good work, bro.

@ernshaw78 7 лет назад

This really really summed it up. However I feel graphic wise Paper Mario was cutting edge at the time, still is with the perspective and the depth. The problem is that world got bigger and graphics got better. Super Paper Mario, was a nice game, at the pass fail level....it didn't have the graphics, but it had rather nice music, and like you I agree that The Thousand Year Door really blew it out. It was taking the problems we didn't like about the earlier game and trying to fix them, i.e. partners not having health and having to sit out for turns. The music was so brilliant for 1-3 of the series. That's brilliant in and of itself. Problem is, even if Sticker Star had brilliant graphics, it had no content. I fucking agree. I can't handle how this was my childhood-early teen years, and now no one knows the original feelings these had. You had emotions invested in the first two, and maybe the third. The 4tth instalment, had no fucking way to make up for the confusion. Which is proof that brilliant graphics can't make up for shitty storyline, or gameplay. It was at least artistic. That much I yield.

@animekyle115 8 лет назад

The Thousand Year Door is still one of my favorite games of all time, I did happen to play it before the original, but I enjoyed the original almost as much. While it was almost completely different compared to the first two, Super Paper Mario was still a (mostly) enjoyable experience for me, and a good game by itself. The story was definitely the best part of the game. Sticker Star... ugh... Wiggler was literally the only entertaining part of that game for me. The worst part of all of this is that Color Splash looks nearly identical to Sticker Star...

@hamza62240 8 лет назад

Super Paper Mario was amazing.

@Melonposting 8 лет назад

Agreed.

@cubexgaming6215 8 лет назад

+hamza62240 I know right this rant was terrible.

@bravescholarlys1127 8 лет назад

Exactly like what?!?

@joshed 8 лет назад

+hamza62240 It was an amazing game but it should not have been a paper mario game. it was NOT paper mario. Paper Mario is an RPG.

@hamza62240 8 лет назад

joshed I agree, but from a gameplay, story, writing, characters, gimmick, basically every standpoint I can think of, it was bloody amazing. :)

@fawfulthegreat64 3 года назад

Rewatching this and it still hurts just as much to see SPM as one of the ones with mostly complaints. In my book it still has 99% of what makes Paper Mario so great. It has most of the same recurring elements that were ditched afterward, it has bizarre out-there worlds and the best villains in the series hands down. You're really focusing on the negatives too much with this game and not enough on the plethora of Paper Mario traditions it was actually the last one to keep.

@nickk3077 3 года назад

Part of the problem is that combat, RPG mechanics, partners, smaller stories, and debatably puzzle design have been downgraded immensely. However, I am willing to forgive all of that because it was intended to be on the GameCube with TTYD. It doesn't feel like "NEW" for the sake of stubbornness like Origami King, but new for the sake that we already had these mechanic so recently on nearly the same hardware.

@SrMechaGojira93 3 года назад

Can you *please* review the Mario & Luigi series?! It’s criminally underrated!

@MrGojira95 2 года назад

Which is basically the true successor to Super Mario RPG.

@Powerman77775 8 лет назад

I love this video so much thank you for making it. It completely represents my thoughts of what the series was and what it has become.

@larrykoopa64dshacker64 8 лет назад

also, Super Paper Mario was a great game

@larrykoopa64dshacker64 8 лет назад

poodle corp wait, wait? first off, I am not really a kid and second, I don't care for attention btw, please don't accuse me of being angry

@luigi180 8 лет назад

I like how kids hear someone say a FEW negative things about a game and think that they fucking hate it and think its the "worst game ever".........

@larrykoopa64dshacker64 8 лет назад

Kleizar Ikr? infact, the gimmicks in Sticker Star and Color Splash are made for kids

@johnporter290 8 лет назад

actually those 2 games are made to wipe my behind. i'll put some color on it and it will stick.

@larrykoopa64dshacker64 8 лет назад

Slenderfoxx37 I know, I wish they would at least use some originality as well

@AutisticMagolorSmileyGuy 8 лет назад

The hate of Super Paper Mario made me cringe.

@lpsmurder 8 лет назад

Ugh same The story lives up to TTYD and it still had useful RPG elements in it, the pixls weren't exactly as amazing as the partners from the previous games, but at least you HAD partners Super is where it started to go downhill, but it wasn't awful, sticker star is when it crash landed

@CybernikTheHedgehog 8 лет назад

He's right though, seriously piss off, if you can't take a rant you shouldn't even be here whining about something you call "cringe".

@RebirthRex 8 лет назад

+Cybernik The Hedgehog and who are you to literally be typing in anger over the internet that an anon from 3 weeks ago disagrees with a part of the video? Pissbabies I swear you're all the same

@MegaCoxRox 8 лет назад

Can you not understand what we don't like about it? If all you're playing the games for is the story and fun characters, then I totally get why you accept SPM. But what a lot of us liked about Paper Mario was how damn *good* the combat was. When you play it at first, you think "oh, it's a dumbed down RPG," but actually, because of its simplicity, it winds up being a strategic, really well-balanced combat system. SPM's system just was not a good idea. The platformer elements kept it from being a good RPG and the RPG elements kept it from being a good platformer. And then they threw in that whole 3rd element of the 2D-to-3D view switch, which is clever and interesting... for about the first half hour. After that, it just gets tedious and boring solving puzzle after puzzle with the exact same gimmick. I mean, can you even call something a puzzle when the solution is just pressing the puzzle-solving button? Sticker Star blows, but I was able to play it longer because their dumb sticker system actually did have potential. I kept hoping they would introduce *some* kind of customization system (like stickers you can find that give you passive bonuses, sort of like badges); I kept hoping you'd reach a town besides Toadtown with some actually interesting characters, or that the plot would go somewhere. If they'd done those things, I would've at least enjoyed Sticker. SPM was just underwhelming right from the start. I get what you like about it, but you gotta realize the people who don't like it have a point.

@RebirthRex 7 лет назад

ProspeQt an anonymous person..? Have to ever been in a science course or message board ever? Or are you that stupid that you honestly didn't know anon stands for anonymous? Or I guess you could just be very young..?

@SuperToastytoast 7 лет назад

Dude I love your videos so much keep making them

@emilianomario5940 8 лет назад

Super Paper Mario was good god dammit

@emilianomario5940 8 лет назад

"It was good god dammit" I said.

@emilianomario5940 8 лет назад

+B MBOX Ok, I think it's great, you think it's mediocre, that's it.

@commonsense2191 8 лет назад

+Emilianomario i agree, the gameplay was average. but man.. the story though! (plus, yknow, we finally got playtime as luigi.)

@Kani8122 8 лет назад

+B MBOX, I agree that it's not very well thought out. For example, the flipping mechanic was restricted to only Mario, and as a result, you have to use Mario all the time if you don't want miss any secrets.

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

+Reid Gilbert and there was a lot of creativeness like great music and most paper Mario things we expect to see like 2 pit of 100 trials, cooking, partners, great music, chapter based, open world, secrets, items, etc, sure the gameplay was different and when saying all the flaws it seems like SPM would be hard to handle but overall for me it didn't bother me it was still fun and a good change for "one" game in the series😌 effort was put into SPM!!

@12hoursTheReal 8 лет назад

Personally, Super Paper Mario is my favorite game of all time.

@pikachannel240 8 лет назад

super paper Mario was the last good paper Mario game in my opinion.

@thaianh9388 8 лет назад

+NapalmFlare It not the best game but it was good

@bravescholarlys1127 8 лет назад

Exactly putting it near Sticker fail is disgusting...

@lucarionite1357 8 лет назад

Was it fun, yes, it had a good story and some fun new aspects to it that made it bare able until the end. Was it better then TTYD, not real, it was a step in the wrong direction and took away one of the main aspects that 95% of the fan base loved about the game, such as the turn based elements that forced tactics, the partner system filled with characters that all had amazing personality and time put into them, and also the open world all linked together in a way that feels like a huge expansive...well, world. Did I like SPM? Yes, but not nearly as much TTYD, Now, about sticker star, it's hot steaming garbage that shouldn't exist and should be placed no where near SPM.

@soupahmario5869 8 лет назад

+NapalmFlare Imagine The Thousand Year Door and the original Paper Mario never existed. Now look at Super Paper Mario. What you see is a very unique experience with great music, awesome levels, expert and witty dialogue and humor, an unbeatable story, and a FANTASTIC set of characters with charm gushing out of every hole the game did have. Don't even get me started on the boatloads of content you still could do after beating the game.

@gladtal 8 лет назад

This video has some real solid points and the video editing is top notch. However, the excessive swearing unfortunately may not be helping deliver the message to any Nintendo execs. If they even care to listen that is..

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

+Mad Tal I wasn't exactly making this video to spearhead some kind of movement. I'm sure swearing might turn people off of the video, but I think it kind sets the bar for the video very low and makes it more fun to watch overall.

@ToonCatTV 8 лет назад

implying they listen to fans

@VinnyDupree 8 лет назад

+Mad Tal It's real, though. A lot of people are pissed about Sticker Star and Nintendo basically took nothing the fans said to heart. It doesn't take half a brain to see that Color Splash has the same problems Sticker Star did and will also suck. Linear levels you go to from one to the other, instead of adventuring through one big open world. Lifeless, personality-lacking TOADS all over the place, instead of unique looking NPCs. A lousy paint gimmick that NO ONE asked for after the first two Paper Mario games. You can't make an RPG, then make a sequel to it that raises the bar and is incredibly polished and top notch, and then scrap everything you put into those first two games one title by one. Literally, each and every Paper Mario game after TTYD has strayed further and further away from the RPG elements of the first two games. Nintendo literally has NO idea what it's doing, but it's massacring what once was a really amazing game series. It only echoes the problems they are having with the rest of their company titles and why they are failing so badly in every corner. Bad choices EVERYWHERE. Bad marketing. Bad development choices. They had a successful niche and now they are destroying it and basically making it super easy for people to switch platforms and move on to other companies.

@DevilWearsAdidas 8 лет назад

+Mad Tal Swear words totally take from the point. Its as if the swear words take the other words completely away from his sentences. Kappa. Swear words are words also. Using them to establish frustrations also fucking works. Guess my point is void because I swore. What are you? Some parent from the 90s? Jesus christ I hate when people trivialize things solely based on the word usages.

@gladtal 8 лет назад

+Vinny Dupree I totally agree man. It definitely sucks. Maybe, just maybe, there'll be some element that they haven't shown off yet about Color Splash that makes it worth buying/playing.

@Th3SmartAlec 8 лет назад

Devi- I mean, Miyamoto's Advocate: "But no you don't know it'll be good tho. And the one after that, and the after that. You're bias." Paper Mario fan: "I WANT A GODDAMN TTYD 2."

@gemcarry6072 8 лет назад

Paper Mario: Thinner Mario, Bigger Adventure Paper Mario Sticker Star/Color Splash: Thinner Mario, Thinner Adventure

@remixV4 8 лет назад

I completely agree.

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

Other then the part that said SPM was bad it was a good and fun game!

@TinyGuy97 8 лет назад

+Slenderfoxx37 He never said it was bad...

@mattbrabham6351 8 лет назад

Super Paper Mario had boring gameplay and a decent story, I beat it once and don't feel the need to play it again yet.

@extremmefan7305 8 лет назад

+Cory in da Asylum My sister (I mentioned her quite a few times lately...) felt the need to play it at least twice, just for the story. Then again, we didn't care that, gameplay-wise, it was DIFFERENT (not bad, just different from the original "RPG" games).

@mattbrabham6351 8 лет назад

I know what you mean, but I don't feel like going through the bland gameplay just to get to the story segments is worth it, but that's just my opinion. This might sound weird, but if the gameplay of sticker star had the story of super paper Mario, I feel like that would be a much better game than either of those games.

@texus835 8 лет назад

that was a short and really fitting statemend in the end^^

@chickennoodlegamer915 3 года назад

I'd like to see a critique or uncivil synopsis of origami king. I personally really liked it but since you've talked about every paper Mario game, I'd like to hear your opinion on it

@Excalibur5k 8 лет назад

if we had another super paper mario, that would be a godsend compared to color splash

@DarkkirbyKRPG 8 лет назад

+Misha It would still enrage me a little bit.

@lucarionite1357 8 лет назад

Still wouldn't change the fact that 97% of the community wants a TTYD like sequal including myself. SPM wasn't bad but it honestly for me wasn't better then TTYD or the first game in even the slightest.

@ce7.0 8 лет назад

SPM was definitely the weakest Mario RPG at the time it came out, but it was still a Mario RPG. SPM had some poor execution, but Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Paper Jam don't even try to have interesting stories and characters and worldbuilding.

@Excalibur5k 8 лет назад

+LucarioNite135 that's why I said compared to color splash

@Excalibur5k 8 лет назад

+CrossEyed7 paper jam isn't a paper Mario game.

@RawkHawkRockin 8 лет назад

I love SPM, but you did a pretty entertaining presentation of the series.

@indiejacob 8 лет назад

YES. YES. YES. YES. This is why Paper Mario fans are annoyed. Do not lump us in with the Sonic fanbase. We actually know what we want.

@tranquelmischief 8 лет назад

I miss when Paper Mario 3DS teased a Chain Chomp partner a year or so before it came out. So much hope.

@Christ9606 8 лет назад

These series is looking great :)

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

+Christ Thanks so much!

@scottgattenio 8 лет назад

Dude, Super Paper Mario kicked ass. Both that and TTYD were awesome games.

@astrowiz3544 8 лет назад

Agreed!! One of my favorites if not favorite of the Mario series so much that ive replayed it twice lol

@Namothy64 8 лет назад

Nintendo needs to see this video. NOW

@JB0lant3 8 лет назад

@HyperCharge, Do you think you can make a video regarding your observation from known trailers and gameplays with Paper Mario Color Splash? I really want to her your thoughts on it. Even though Im already aware that the game didnt come out yet, what are your thoughts in comparison to TTYD and the direction Nintendo is heading in?

@HyperCharge 8 лет назад

I'd probably just make a video when the game comes out. I'm trying to keep everything on my channel as timeless as possible, so I'll probably avoid covering news and trailers.

@immortalfrieza 7 лет назад

@HyperCharge Got anything on the Mario And Luigi RPG series? I'd definitely like to see what you think of Paper Jam.

@ethankeller8reaper7 8 лет назад

The thing I mostly hate about PMCS is that evil white outline! I hope it's not in the game when it's released.

@Haquize 8 лет назад

+Ethan Keller (8Reaper7) The game's already been localized. it will be most likely.

@proton7631 8 лет назад

+Ethan Keller (8Reaper7) Ikr? It was fine in Paper Jam, to tell which characters are paper or not(even though it was obvious already). In Color Splash it doesn't make ANY sense to do this.

@DarkkirbyKRPG 8 лет назад

+gamerz128 It was a way to establish that the paper characters were out of their element/world, which I found to be a good way to show how unique they are in contrast. In Color Splash, it looks retarded.

@slenderfoxx3797 8 лет назад

Ikr it sucks...btw it's probably because when Nintendo thinks paper Mario now all they want are as much paper gimmick crap that they can fit in it....look at the crappy art style mostly copied from sticker star except way to much paper like it looks like a child's scrapbook project I don't like it the first 3 games paper graphics were fine just make them in HD 😞even the name of the games scream gimmicks...sticker star was collect useless stickers.....colour splash is splash splatoon paint everywhere....and get cards AKA the stickers!!!

@proton7631 8 лет назад

DarkK~ Thats basically what I said(kinda, not really). I still would've liked it if they didn't have it at all in any game with paper mario, since its easy to tell apart the paper characters from the actual characters.

@threepunch5702 5 лет назад

I strongly disagree, super paper Mario wasn’t like the first 2 but was a damn excellent game for its story and sense of progression, character development, and challenge At least we can agree it blows sticker star to the pits of tartarus

@jagagagaga 8 лет назад

omg i love your videos i hope you reach 1k-1M!

@andyblargextra 3 года назад

OG Paper Marios are my favorite games that always get me hype and fill me with nostalgia. I miss it so much.

@jjslider3026 8 лет назад

Super Paper Mario is a pretty good game.

@jjslider3026 7 лет назад

Yeah...but they just wanted to try something different, you know. And in my opinion, it worked. I don't want anything like it to happen again, both because it makes Super less special and because I do want a true rpg, but I think it succeeded at what it attempted. Plus...it's better than Sticker Star. ...oh yeah, and Tracer will beat the shit out of Scout lololololol.

@alejandrorealbastias7171 8 лет назад

Paper Mario -> Great game. Paper Mario TTYD -> One of the best games ever made, my favourite game of all time. Super Paper Mario --> Very different, but by any means bad. Not as brilliant as the other 2 but enjoyable. Paper Mario Sticker Star -> The biggest disappointment I have ever had with a game, if it can be called a game. Paper Mario Color Splash -> It seems it will be like the previous one... So yeah, Paper Mario is dead sadly, they don't listen to players.

@user-gk4jp6lt2b 3 года назад

Origami King -> Fine, I want to like it, but it just isn’t as good as the old games.

@KoroxasHeart 8 лет назад

@HyperCharge did you know that they change genre of Paper Mario from Adventure-RPG to Action-Adventure since announcing Sticker Star

@awesomeguy2009 8 лет назад

Also, Super and Colour Splash don't take place in the Mushroom Kingdom either. And super still has new enemies and NPC's.

@Beamo1080 8 лет назад

Super Paper Mario was fantastic, though.

@CalebCraft10 8 лет назад

+Sebastian Stosegan No. Not in the slightest.

@Beamo1080 8 лет назад

I'm really confused at how anyone could call SPM a bad game! Like, Sticker Star was objectively a really bad game, both in its gameplay and its story. But SPM had great gameplay and the best story in the series. I can understand someone not liking it because it changed from an RPG with platforming elements to a platformer with RPG elements, but to call it a bad game is simply wrong.

@colejohnson7282 8 лет назад

+Beamo1080 When SPM came out with it's OUT OF WHACK combat system, it was almost kinda the worst in the series. Thanks to Sticker Star, a lot more people (including me) cherish it as an actual good game. The moral of the day: Turn-based combat doesn't make a game!

@MrDmoney156 8 лет назад

Nintendo is starting to become the next early 2000's SEGA

@TwistedAMV 8 лет назад

I love your presentation; I am your 500th sub! ;)

@thisaccountisboring8629 8 лет назад

If someone made a paper mario fangame that stuck with the elements and features that made the first two games so incredible, it would get 10x the sales made by Color Splash.

@tenminutevideoempire8048 8 лет назад

I loved PM: TTYD and SPM the best!

@luigi180 8 лет назад

Holy fuck this video was spot on!! Calm your shit drones........ at no point did he give any "hate" to SPM, he simply states that he doesnt think SPM feels like a PM game. It only looks like one. IMO if it wasnt for the fantastic story, SPM would be generic as fuck.

@plasmetal8225 3 года назад

I'm gonna be honest, Super Paper Mario was good for what it was. It doesn't exactly deserve that much hate. Of course, I know the game has flaws, and it was a huge jump for the series to do. Even if it was lacking in some parts, the story and personality were there to at least back it up. It may have been a drastic change, but at least it was a pleasant one. Easily my favorite of the 6. Sticker Star on the other hand is like an actual sticker. It was practically stuck to the series at that point, the hype was just too hard to remove, and it left a mark on the series. Like, at least Color Splash TRIED. Sticker Star just had nothing. [Note: Spoilers for both Sticker Star and Color Splash if you somehow haven't seen it yet or even care for Sticker Star.] Of course, I would say that I do in fact enjoy the soundtrack, but that's pretty arbitrary because most games have phenomenal music compared to the others. I mean, The Ultimate Show is absolutely perfect, Blackout was an amazing song to end on, while Kertsi's Power and the other song that I can't be bothered to remember is just a generic Bowser and Final Battle theme tbh. Like, at least the others kinda had something going for them. They hit differently than Sticker Star's themes. Also, here's a hot take. They made both of the partners, Huey and Kertsi, sacrifice themself in the climax of the game. Kertsi comes back in the end, for some reason. Huey doesn't, though. Of course he does come back at the very end, but it just isn't the same. Kertsi is just seen chilling with Mario and Peach. Huey is seen practically lifeless in the ending cutscene, similarly to F.L.U.D.D. from Super Mario Sunshine. It genuinely feels like Huey's sacrifice was ten times greater than Kertsi's. Huey's there for you in the finale, helping you tank the hits that Bowser throws at you. Meanwhile Kertsi just... gets LITERALLY used? Hell, you don't even need Kertsi to defeat the final boss. The fact that in one game your partner just sacrifices themself for you in the end of the game, and the other their sacrifice can be completely null and void in the end, it really shows how much Sticker Star sucks. Hell, I haven't even seen the ending of the Origami King, yet I feel like that it will still have a better ending than Sticker Star.

@nadea5680 7 лет назад

It Been 5 Years And I Don't Know What to Do at The Dessert In Sticker Star

@kikov69 8 лет назад

Does someone mind explaining to me where all the hate towards Super Paper Mario comes from? Literally all they did was try something new with Paper Mario! I will admit, I didn't find it as innovative and surprising as TTYD, but SPM wasn't nearly as shitty as EVERYONE says it is! I'm just getting so sick of it!

@cubexgaming6215 8 лет назад

I know right, the whining about "holy shit new ideas are so shitty they should stay the same every time" is getting old fast.

@TZmayo 8 лет назад

I had a verry similar experience with sticker stars, I got it for Christmas hoping for somthing like ttyd. I loaded it up, played for 1 hour and I haven't touched that peice of ass since. I have never been so disappointed in a game before that. I would like to apologize to my mom for wanting it and her getting it for me. it's not her fault I have it, it's not my fault either. it's nintendo's fault for releasing such a shitty ass peice of fuck game.

@badradish2116 8 лет назад

ugh no coverage of color splash - you're the first i've heard of it i was hoping you'd talk more about it and the future, but hella nice rant tho well played sir couldnt agree more

@Neverknot47 8 лет назад

I enjoyed this video. too much swearing though it's kinda reminiscent of how the AVGN would just swear for the sake of forcing anger in his earlier videos.

@Edward-it9cr 8 лет назад

I hope im not the only one who REALLY loved SPM... I know that it's not a TRUE Paper Mario game, but I believe that if the name didn't have Paper in it, it won't have as much hate as it gets... I personally think that SPM is underrated as all heck...

@jonb4820 8 лет назад

+The Jet Squadron I agree with you. If it was not a Paper Mario game, it would have been universally acclaimed. But it was not a Paper Mario game. The entire time I played it, I could not get over how disappointed I was.

@extremmefan7305 8 лет назад

The "Super" in the title hinted at the platforming/side-scroller aspect too. And anybody who misses that is either blind or blinded by the "Paper" in the title (which, if anything, hints at the graphic style).

@tincanwhiplash 8 лет назад

Yeah...HyperCharge can go super paper piss off

@extremmefan7305 8 лет назад

***** Same. I liked TTYD and the classic Paper Mario, but it felt SO nice to have a breath of fresh air gameplay-wise, and WAY more focus on the story.

@Cuprite1024 8 лет назад

SPM's my favorite in the series tied with TTYD. :P

@r.p.7174 4 года назад

I would actually say that Super Paper Mario is brilliant story-wise. It gets just as weird as the first two and, the plot is actually the deepest thing about it. You clearly haven't played all of it if you're calling it a "fun little distraction". Gameplay's bland though, you got me there.

@SchwickFAFO 8 лет назад

This video is golden. I'm subbing my friend.

@xer03df 3 года назад

I, and probably most other pm fans, heavily disagree with your opinion about about super paper mario. Super paper mario has the BEST story in the series, and the "partners" were made simple so that the game could focus more on the epic story. I think it's definetly part of the 3 best paper marios(64, ttyd *and* spm). Of course, I respect your opinion, but just letting you know...

@colecapps3782 8 лет назад

Woah woah woah SPM was awesome even a master piece yeah first 2 were a little better

@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook 5 лет назад

I do not think you played SPM im pretty sure you mistaked it with Superstar saga.

@sirwelcome 4 года назад

Nothing is a masterpiece

@CalebCraft10 8 лет назад

I thought Super was the second best in the series. What's wrong with it?

@Cheesehead302 8 лет назад

+Calebite I personally liked it a lot too, although not as much as Thousand Year Door. But I think it's because it's objective, like some people like Paper Mario for the strict RPG element more than others and some people can look past that for the characters and story. Thousand Year Door has everything but Super Paper Mario has an amazing story and not really any turned based battles. But it just depends, although I would rather and many others would rather Paper Mario be a traditional RPG series.

@CarlosEmilioCastroLara 8 лет назад

+Calebite Super Paper Mario began the killing of the Paper Mario series....nintendo attempt to innovate, but they took away its charm

@CalebCraft10 8 лет назад

+Carlos Emilio Castro Lara U kidding me? Super was AMAZING. Sure the gameplay wasn't as good, but it's a simple sacrifice for the greatest story, villains, setup, lore, ect.

@CarlosEmilioCastroLara 8 лет назад

+Calebite the story was not so bad, in fact, I enjoyed it a lot, but it was the first Paper Mario that didn't feel like a Paper Mario, if they had just left the mechanics of the previous Paper Marios, it may have been the best paper mario in the history...

@DarkkirbyKRPG 8 лет назад

+Calebite The gameplay being absolutely terrible is what started the decline of Paper Mario.

@jasoncporter 8 лет назад

I will continue to watch and like these videos until Nintendo takes a hint. I dig your video man, thanks for saying what's on all of our minds.

@cubexgaming6215 8 лет назад

"All of our minds" Yeah no

@jarredpacheco994 8 лет назад

I've been waiting years for somebody to say this shit finally thank you,even though it's sad it's very true that Nintendo it's clearly out of touch with what consumers want.. liked and subbed

@FlameLFH 7 лет назад

Color Splash actually is shit. Not quite as bad as Sticker Star but still very boring and monotonous. I would describe the gameplay outside of battle as something like Super Mario Sunshine minus the fun. Almost every single enemy I fight dies in one hit without even using action commands... So glad I pirated it lol

@kazoorion7993 7 лет назад

And it flopped so hard.

@fergboyrossgerson1412 4 года назад

Color Splash is so underrated. It doesn’t deserve the hate.

@timothyroehm4307 4 года назад

_ D0ct0r _ :Paper Mario Color Splash is still 60$ are you freaking kidding me!!!!!?

@anepicgamer8127 3 года назад

I think Color Splash is meh, nothing too good but nothing too bad about it

@CaliCosmicGal 3 года назад

@Blue Star bland say that to Dark Bloo inn or mondo woods or THE FUCKING PARALLEL WORLD!

@CaliCosmicGal 3 года назад

@Blue Star then you have bad memories because the hotel doesn’t instakill

@CaliCosmicGal 3 года назад

@Blue Star no you don’t die you get pushed out of the level but you don’t lose any cards you got or any game over screen.

@yinan02 8 лет назад

Totally agree with you on sticker star, but disagree on SPM. The game had a great backstory but the change to a more platformer was a bit much. But I still consider it a paper Mario game.

@NTheHedgehog 8 лет назад

So you have the power to travel through time and so you were able to play Color Splash?

@zacmac104 8 лет назад

Does Mario and Luigi Paper Jam count as a paper mario game?

@fugyfruit 8 лет назад

@DrTaterTot 8 лет назад

Loving the arguments "Super Paper Mario was not bad because Sticker Star was horrible"

@Surgemaster2012 8 лет назад

I'm pretty much with you on this one. I agree with everything in the video. Sure PM64 had some minimalistic elements such as the story (although the Star Spirits and Wish aspect did at least give it something to stand on) and although it had Toads almost every toad was different from each other. Like toads had different designs and some even their own identity like Russ T, Tayce T, The Master, Minth T, a few toads in Parakarry's mail side quest. Sadly I know I'm going to get hate for this but I didn't like Super Paper Mario either, however even if I didn't like the game speaking for the entire Paper Mario fandom I can see where the enjoyment factor can be had. It has the best story in the series with it giving some great development, build up and a story that's dark and worth engaging in, I can see where people come from in the story department and tbh it's pretty much the only legs this game has along with the cast of characters and the series best villain. I would like to see this aspect brought over in combination with the previous games. I will say I disagree that Super Paper Mario is a bad game, speaking for the fandom it has things in it that I can see make it a good game on its own, it just has nothing for me besides the story. However my dislike comes heavily in the gameplay, I really disliked the flip-mechanic as it felt like a series standard for the gimmicks. As it they too the gimmicky aspect of the gameplay and game play design elements and made the entire series out of nothing but a gimmick tester, the gameplay sorta set a staple for gimmicks. And while people may like this I found it boring. I hated the fact you took damage after being it in a certain period of time, there doesn't feel like there should be a reason it does this as nothing game breaking happens from being in the 3D it's just flipped in a different perspective. I also found the 2D-3D thing unappealing as the first two games already had 2d with 3D environments. Not to mention taking damage and then constantly having to flip back out to wait for the meter to charge was annoying and felt as if it hinders progress unnecessarily. I also hated the level design and in most cases every level began to feel the same after a while and it also has really boring segments such as the entirety of Chapter 4 being slow, backtracking and just boring. Or the 2nd half of Chapter 7 being boring as well as having to memorize a cryptic scene in Chapter 5. (This carries over into other things with the level design I disliked as well as the Pit of 100 trials, which was boring and not as interesting as TTYD) I also didn't like how the pixels (besides Tippi) had no personality or established characters whatsoever. They were blank slates. I also hated the level up system as it was fixed to just what it wanted to level up at that given time. What made 64 and especially TTYD so great is you chose your own gameplay style out of what badges you wanted to use or stat upgrades you chose. You could do a Jump or Hammer only run, Double Damage run, using certain setups run, danger Mario runs, etc. And every partner helped from a gameplay perspective, because of how much they contributed it felt as if you could've have Mario without them you couldn't have one without the other. In Super though it's like it's fixed to only level up attack and HP, you have no freedom to choose your own style. Even some party members could benefit to certain styles too. I also think repetitively jumping on foes is boring too, in the main series you're at least given things in the level design to make your jumps more challenging to do, but in Super is either bounce and run away or bounce until you win. Or Spam Bowser's fire breath, there isn't a sense of versatility. The music is pretty much as subjective preference and I don't feel it holds any of the 3 games over each other, it just comes down to which you like most. Honestly I don't have a favorite in terms of music I feel 64, TTYD and Super all have great music and I enjoy tracks from each. Granted the partners in Paper Mario 64 did lose their personalities once they joined you, but at least the could still be defined by what they did in battle and were established as actual characters by having families, being their own character. The Pixels are more obvious than the former and felt very much like using tools rather than partners with attributes, their abilities only defined them. Like you know nothing about them other than one grabs stuff, the other blows up things etc. Plus they said nothing after their introductions. Again It may sound like I'm saying it's a bad game, but remember I said Super is only bad from a gameplay perspective speaking from my own point of view. Speaking for the game as a whole and for everyone in the fandom and comments who like it I think the game is good, and the story elements and characters I can see make up for what flaws it has alone and I can't really call it a bad game, it just has bad game design and gameplay choices I didn't enjoy. (Seriously I enjoyed some of the character moments, such as when Peach fights Mimi, or Dimentio's reveal as the main villain and the overall relationship of Tippi and Bleck.) Sorry I have to disagree with you in saying it's bad speaking for the fandom. Even as much as I don't care for SPM gameplay wise I still consider it part of the franchise as it at least had charm, the story and characters to live off of. Whereas *STINKER STAR* Yes that's it's nickname, has nothing of substance.

@lv1oogengar370 5 лет назад

The first 2 are the only ones worth of having the name

@Pollymacho 8 лет назад

I agree with most of what you said. I never played SPM but I sure played TTYL and Sticker star. Great job!

@GhostMitch 8 лет назад

This is the best Paper Mario rant video I've seen so far. I really liked Super Paper Mario, but everyone has their own opinions.

@ThePokemonCasr 7 лет назад

I liked how the old games, TTYD and the original, just hinted at the game being paper. The new games literally shove the whole paper world down your throat.

@RegalPixelKing 3 года назад

I still don't think that Super Paper Mario is not a bad game, in fact I think it's really fun; I feel like you where it little too harsh on it. With that said Paper Mario has been dead scene Sticker Star, and yeah, we have not gotten a proper sequel to TTYD yet and we probably never will.

@RedMage8BT 8 лет назад

You were harsh against a game I liked (SPM) but you dropped necessary truth bombs on Sticker Star and for that I give you props

@dorkzilla413 8 лет назад

I love how you get 5% of the information before giving a final verdict. Looks like kids these days will all grow up into comedians. **Sniff**, brings a tear to my eye.