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Parents' Sacrifices For an Antinatalist 

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As Antinatalists, how do we answer the sacrifices our parents made for us, (or did they)?

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@ericcotter1984
@ericcotter1984 9 месяцев назад
They sacrificed us, not themselves
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Ajá muy buena esa.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Literal, ya que el nacimiento es solo una muerte postpuesta. La vida es una sentencia de muerte.
@AntinatalizmTurkiye
@AntinatalizmTurkiye 11 месяцев назад
Children do not owe anything.
@trevagraham1605
@trevagraham1605 11 месяцев назад
Facts. You dont owe anyone anything until you become a parent
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 11 месяцев назад
​@@trevagraham1605then DON'T become a parent.
@trevagraham1605
@trevagraham1605 11 месяцев назад
@@ANTINATALIST_lewis Duh!!!
@jacquelineentwistle5091
@jacquelineentwistle5091 10 месяцев назад
​@@ANTINATALIST_lewis🔥👍
@Jiumengmiaomiao221
@Jiumengmiaomiao221 6 месяцев назад
Antinatalism needs to spread everywhere
@Billy-rr7re
@Billy-rr7re 11 месяцев назад
creating a human, a human that will require care and sustenance just so they can play the good samaritan role and call themselves heroes. that is beyond evil.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Sí el bombero pirómano
@TheGoldenPlatoon757
@TheGoldenPlatoon757 6 месяцев назад
I thought about this for years. They act like they make sacrifices for you and when you say otherwise, they take their anger out on you and act like you should be grateful for what they've done which is beyond frustrating.
@evelyna_paula1747
@evelyna_paula1747 6 месяцев назад
Parents are human beings too. they are not angels. They have love and hate. Some kill and steal to feed their kids. No one is perfect.
@lostntiredl488
@lostntiredl488 5 месяцев назад
​@@TheGoldenPlatoon757 To put the responsibility on the child for all the sacrifices they made for you, but which you did not ask them to make. Thats really fucking evil. Mb some parents just dont have that courage or just want to live in peace or smth else so they aint saying that.
@namratagandhi3381
@namratagandhi3381 5 месяцев назад
@@lostntiredl488 truth..
@kanilana1007
@kanilana1007 9 месяцев назад
It's like if somebody broke your leg and then bought you a wheelchair. I'm grateful for the wheelchair but the only reason I need a wheelchair in the first place was because you broke my leg.
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 9 месяцев назад
And the broke it on purpose for their own benefit.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Buena analogía
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
La del bombero pirómano también es buena. Apagan incendios que ellos mismos crearon
@user-nz4ot6uw3v
@user-nz4ot6uw3v 2 месяца назад
@@SophyPhiliaGary Vee, before he was rich and famous, used to mess up peoples lawns and then knock on the door and charge them for him to fix it. This is a pattern in the universe.
@joeber3869
@joeber3869 8 месяцев назад
As a child, you cannot really love someone who you are physically dependent on. What you actually feel towards your parents is the Stockholm syndrome.
@TheGoldenPlatoon757
@TheGoldenPlatoon757 5 месяцев назад
​@@shovelenthusiast3888 *Yawn*
@lostntiredl488
@lostntiredl488 5 месяцев назад
​@@shovelenthusiast3888 Great answer. "Ur wrong. Why? I can't tell, but Ur wrong." - u rly damn stupid.
@Sophia-qr2xk
@Sophia-qr2xk 5 месяцев назад
Very true
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 4 месяца назад
Preach it! 🙌🏽
@Kaz.2719
@Kaz.2719 5 месяцев назад
I've never heard a non-selfish reason for choosing to have a child.
@Billy-rr7re
@Billy-rr7re 11 месяцев назад
i really hate parents. all parents. all they did was to benefit themselves. no one else. but they have the balls to say it was all to benefit the kid. that really pisses me off. they bring someone here with the intention to have a retirement plan. a caregiver when they are old. they bring another person here just to liven up their little stupid life. how do they dare to say, it was all for the kids. they care for the kid because that is the person that will take them to the hospital when they are in a wheel chair. there is no love in any of their actions and, love is just a $tupid concept. it seems that they justify all their selfish acts by using one of the stupidest ideas in this place, the idea that life is some kind of wonderful and perfect gift. the idea that when you create another person you are doing them a great and wonderful favor because, this is clearly a beautiful paradise right? there is absolutely no doubt that creating another person is out of selfishness. there is no love. it is always for them, always about them. they need to take good care on their retirement plan otherwise, they would be in trouble. many others also take care of this person because they are forced by law. once this person becomes an adult, as defined by law, they kick them out simply because they are a burden. they completed the homework of reproduction assigned to them , assigned by society and / or stupid religion.
@slaydog5102
@slaydog5102 11 месяцев назад
Me too man I hate my mom
@jenniferr9624
@jenniferr9624 11 месяцев назад
Breeders are narcissists.
@iancavon7125
@iancavon7125 9 месяцев назад
I don't hate my parents, they clearly loved me (still do, as they're not dead yet) and gave me a wonderful childhood. But yes, of course I'm here because THEY wanted a kid, wanted to become "a family", without any doubt or afterthought. As it turned out, things went downhill after childhood. Parents can't protect their adolescent & adult offspring from life's hardships, and I was forced to find out that in life suffering outweighs joy by far, even though my own particular existence -- that of a wealthy westerner -- is a rather privileged one. Billions of people have it worse. Which only affirms your comment.
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 9 месяцев назад
I see you every where & your comments never disappoint.
@acceptinglife6491
@acceptinglife6491 8 месяцев назад
@@slaydog5102 hope you hate your dad as equally
@Billy-rr7re
@Billy-rr7re 11 месяцев назад
beside the fact that no one asks to be born, it is also pretty clear that everything they do , they do it for themselves. always. we know they have a kid to satisfy different desires they have. this new person looks cute and small so they feel the impulse to take care of it. just like with a kitty but, this one is different, this person is "part" of them by the magic of genes. they've been told they will become heroes by having a child and they want to feel that way. to achieve that they have to work hard, they have to make a lot of "sacrifices". all that hard work, that sacrifice is simply for them to feel proud of themselves. remember that one of the reasons to pop a kid out is to have a purpose in their lives, they need to have something to do that they've been told is "important and meaningful" so they work towards that goal. is not about the kid. the kid is always just a tool to satisfy their desires. they need to feel they are working for something important in order to feel good about their own lives. to feel like they are not "wasting " their time here. of course, if this new person achieves what is consider by society as success, they will again, feel proud of themselves. why? because they created and raised this little genius so they deserve the credit. always about them. always. I do not think they deserve a free pass just because they are following the brainwashed done to them from birth. many talk so casually about creating a person just to have a caregiver, and they see nothing wrong with that. when you explain these things to them, they still see nothing wrong despite the fact it is wrong. their egos, their own satisfaction is more important than anything else. let's not forget that they also want to put another person here just to perpetuate this system we call society, just to perpetuate the stupid species. we can go on and on. i do not see how we can justify their behavior and declare them innocent.
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 11 месяцев назад
Good point
@jacquelineentwistle5091
@jacquelineentwistle5091 10 месяцев назад
So true 💯👍
@SpiritGreatness
@SpiritGreatness 8 месяцев назад
💥💥💥💥
@ANTINATALIST_lewis
@ANTINATALIST_lewis 8 месяцев назад
Billy is always spitting facts
@namratagandhi3381
@namratagandhi3381 8 месяцев назад
Jainism saved my peace
@james90790
@james90790 8 месяцев назад
Loving parent is an oxymoron. By any reasonable definition of love, one can’t be a parent because to be a parent is to put your child into harms way knowing it will happen and still going through with it. That isn’t love and if someone thinks it is they are truly a sad case
@TheGoldenPlatoon757
@TheGoldenPlatoon757 4 месяца назад
My parents were okay with me being sent into the military and I haven't spoken to them since and they worry senseless? Like, what the fuck were you expecting? You send me to the military to get rid of me and when I don't say shit, you're scared like little bitches all of a sudden? Makes no sense, lol.
@retrovox
@retrovox 6 месяцев назад
When a being is brought into existence, he/she is subject to a baseline suffering. Pleasure is a reduction in suffering. Baseline suffering is there by default.
@elsugga3736
@elsugga3736 6 месяцев назад
To me, if you have to remind someone all the things you did for them. It means that you resent them, and there’s no Love in resentment
@darkchaozbringer785
@darkchaozbringer785 10 месяцев назад
If I throw you in jail against your will then do my best to take care of you, you are still an unwilling participant of a cruel act. Regardless of our parents having good intentions, the act is still ultimately evil. Moreover, the act of having a kid is selfish anyway.
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 10 месяцев назад
True. "Parents having good intention" is a contradictory term, as if they did have good intentions, they wouldn't have become parents in the first place.
@UNIQUETVfilm
@UNIQUETVfilm 10 месяцев назад
I admire your logical thinking I would say it is not out of love but out of instinct.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Sí igual que las gatas cuidan a sus gatitos. Es curioso cómo esas pequeñas asesinas matan todo lo que se mueve, menos a sus propios hijos, a quienes lamen y alimentan y se desviven por ellos. Se quitan de su boca para dar a sus crías. Casi todas las especies animales lo hacen.
@evelyna_paula1747
@evelyna_paula1747 6 месяцев назад
Nowadays if you are not a parent, people let you die by the way side.
@matinaki1644
@matinaki1644 5 месяцев назад
​@@evelyna_paula1747they let you die either way.
@eheheh3263
@eheheh3263 4 месяца назад
Or because you can go to jail for letting your child starve
@UNIQUETVfilm
@UNIQUETVfilm 4 месяца назад
@@eheheh3263 it depends what country you live in.
@Life-Taught-man
@Life-Taught-man 5 месяцев назад
Children DON'T owe their parents ANYTHING. And NO. Parents don't sacrifice anything for their children. Sacrifice is when a total stranger does something for another UNRELATED person. Between parents and ESPECIALLY mothers, who CHOOSE to bring their children into this world FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH AND NARCISSISTIC desires and wants, there is nothing they do that I can call a "sacrifice". Remember, you as a parent ARE responsible for your own CHOICE (to have a baby). Your baby NEVER asked you to bring'em into this world. So, you can NOT say you sacrifice for your baby. For example, we don't reward a bodybuilder or hold him in high regards because he works so hard to build up his muscles. Nor do we owe him anything for it. Bodybuilding requires a lot of dedication and really hard work for years and years but it's a personal choice taken by the person for personal goals. But do we owe them anything for their years of hard work ? NO. If I choose to buy a car, then I have to take care of it. Change its fluids, do maintenance, wash it, put gas in it and of course PAY for it. It does take effort and it does cost a lot of money to buy and keep a car but it's my choice to buy it and no one is expected to help me pay for it. Same thing if I choose to have a pet. I have to take care of it and provide for it.....but do I expect the pet to owe me something for it ? MY CHOICE, MY RESPONSIBILITY. Simple. And remember what women always tell us, "my body, my choice" ! OK. Your body, your choice, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY when it comes to taking care of your child. DON'T expect anything from your child and don't say your child owes you anything for YOUR choice to FOIST life on them. That's not saying anything about the possibility of your children having a miserable life of suffering..... Then it IS YOU (the parent) who owe them but you will NEVER be able to make up for it no matter what you do for them.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 4 месяца назад
TRUTH! I am a hardcore Mandatory Antinatalist who hedges my bets. While I support laws banning people from forcing others into the world without their consent, forced to obey laws they consider unfair, unjust, for those of us who are ALREADY HERE, and who are Atheist and Vegan, I support achieving LEV (Longevity Escape Velocity), since we are deterministically forced to suffer the fear of death, and make ourselves young and FREE forever, and maximize the quality of OUR lives. So I strongly support bionanotechnology research AT THE SAME TIME as preventing new people and nonhuman animals forced into the world.
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 4 месяца назад
Preach it! 🙌🏽
@BalHatase
@BalHatase 8 месяцев назад
Since a world like this is a living hell for all involved because the problems here are existential ones, not materialistic, then is absolutely a must if you are a good person to avoid at all cost having children.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Sí, muchas personas tenemos la sensación de vivir en el/un infierno
@Tredsff
@Tredsff 6 месяцев назад
I do not put parents in a high position....as I feel the reason they have children are for selfish reasons and than make you feel guilty and make you feel like a burden for being alive after they give birth to you...
@diantinatalist6686
@diantinatalist6686 7 месяцев назад
If they assumed our debts and pains then they would be worth their salt as progenitors
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Exacto. Sí de cada 10 dolores me evitan 4, no están haciendo gran cosa.
@daym8
@daym8 8 месяцев назад
Most of times it's out of lust not love... A mistake most of the times. Thankfully, we have contraceptives phew!
@TheGoldenPlatoon757
@TheGoldenPlatoon757 4 месяца назад
Facts.
@daym8
@daym8 4 месяца назад
🙏👍
@eheheh3263
@eheheh3263 4 месяца назад
And many people still don’t use them and then act shocked when they get pregnant 😂
@daym8
@daym8 4 месяца назад
It's just a Catastrophe EHEH to be honest . Men should get a vasectomy instead,the ones with alot of sexual rejuvenation in them.
@hpro2388
@hpro2388 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes, we just try to find an excuse for them. Not all of us can resist the desire to make love. Beside, in my case I always hide behind the fact that they were illiterate and belong to a third world country, so they couldn't build that consciousness that would have made them aware of what giving birth really means. Moreover, religion preteaches procreation.
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 6 месяцев назад
True. They usually do not think about the consequences of bringing a child, and this is the whole project of antinatalism, i.e. to bring such consequences into attention.
@RCohle452
@RCohle452 10 месяцев назад
Gestation is just a function of biology, nothing more.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Exacto, y si partimos de la idea de que quizás el libre albedrío no existe... solo son marionetas del determinismo.
@antinatalope
@antinatalope 11 месяцев назад
I can't seem to post a link which may be of interest. :(
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 11 месяцев назад
Hmm, you should be able
@antinatalope
@antinatalope 11 месяцев назад
​@@SophyPhiliaI'll try again now. If you don't see it, it got vanished again. Update: It posted, then vanished. This is really a bummer. It's called 'Adult Orphans: When Parents Die'. It was in the LA Times Online.
@jacquelineentwistle5091
@jacquelineentwistle5091 10 месяцев назад
🔥💯👍
@julieannrobles7371
@julieannrobles7371 8 месяцев назад
Children did not choose to be born here it’s there choice alone is not out of love is just being entitled to control their kid. If they have disease is that Ok cause you created that human being who will suffer all their life
@TheGoldenPlatoon757
@TheGoldenPlatoon757 5 месяцев назад
Truth.
@turkumies7799
@turkumies7799 2 месяца назад
Narcissist parent: "Here, the minimum food/drink/sleep/shelter you need my child. But you owe me for giving these basic needs. When you grow up, I expect to get more in return, after all, I raised you right. And I will reap a bountyful harvest after all the hard work and investment I did to you." Here we can see a selfish and greedy parent who is only after reward. And yes, they may reap, but they reap bitterness after the truth has been revealed to the child who is now an adult. The parents reap hate and anger from that adult who was once their child that they used for selfish gain. You reap my wrath.
@godofdeath8785
@godofdeath8785 Месяц назад
Feels like my parents tbh. Its seems like they don't care much about my mental health and emotional immature and caring much about opinions of others. Idk its really kinda bad situation and i am afraid i am cannot live independently and will depend on them still long time
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
Me gusta la analogía de la fiesta. Aunque me gustaba más el formato de videos que hacías antes, sin divagaciones, con dibujos, más cortos y directos, con guiones, lo bueno si breve dos veces bueno.
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 6 месяцев назад
I understand the the short videos were more popular, but I no longer have time to make them, so for the sake of making videos, I have to stick to this free style videos. Thank you for following the channel.
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve
@MARIACLIMENT-rg6ve 6 месяцев назад
​@@SophyPhiliaok gracias a ti. También se agradece este tipo de vídeos.
@sariahlace5944
@sariahlace5944 4 месяца назад
Let me clear this up for you firstly because we are very unclear,of our origin/purpose this life is pretty senseless secondly our non-thinking stupid parents,who think,they should be revered,are both physically/psychologically biologically programmed what did they sacrifice (nothing) we owe them nothing. simply/plainly putt no life,no worries of any kind.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 4 месяца назад
I am a hardcore Mandatory Antinatalist who hedges my bets. While I support laws banning people from forcing others into the world without their consent, forced to obey laws they consider unfair, unjust, for those of us who are ALREADY HERE, and who are Atheist and Vegan, I support achieving LEV (Longevity Escape Velocity), since we are deterministically forced to suffer the fear of death, and make ourselves young and FREE forever, and maximize the quality of OUR lives. So I strongly support bionanotechnology research AT THE SAME TIME as preventing new people and nonhuman animals forced into the world.
@aas5775
@aas5775 2 месяца назад
Did our parents asked to be here?
@theintrovertedaspie9095
@theintrovertedaspie9095 Месяц назад
No.
@MikiMaki76
@MikiMaki76 5 месяцев назад
you give humans too much credit. the average human is nothing more than a dog, would you hold a dog responsible for making puppies?
@oj9690
@oj9690 5 месяцев назад
what a depressing bunch of people in these comments
@TheGoldenPlatoon757
@TheGoldenPlatoon757 5 месяцев назад
I know right? I hate seeing people with their own thoughts, feelings and opinions. It pisses me off so much. /s
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 5 месяцев назад
Make a video and cheer us up!
@KyleEvra
@KyleEvra 4 месяца назад
Stop demonizing depression.
@ameliaannhouck2670
@ameliaannhouck2670 8 месяцев назад
YOU NEED TO READ YOUR COMMENTS OR DO NOT BOTHER WITH PODCAST! THE COMMENTS ARE TELLING YOU HOW AWFUL IT WAS FOR THEM , SO READ YOUR COMMENTS !
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 8 месяцев назад
What are you talking about? What was awful for them?
@Minttea635
@Minttea635 5 месяцев назад
This world needs help
@SophyPhilia
@SophyPhilia 5 месяцев назад
Then help it!
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 4 месяца назад
There's a Help tab on the upper right corner (or left corner) on your computer screen. Click it!
@Liberty-hw9dh
@Liberty-hw9dh 15 дней назад
Responsibility, LOVE IS SCAM
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