Pathfinder 2E Archetype Top 10! | GSR S1E12 

I didn’t realize this was going to be interesting to folks but it seems like a number of y’all really want to see how vignettes work…I’ll start putting together a script!

@@goblinsalvagerites Yes, I've thought of doing it before and didn't realize anyone else did it. I'd love to hear your ideas. Aside from that, I like how you guys bring up things about the genre that others don't. Things like vignettes, or reputation, or leadership, these are things that keep players and DMs alike interested in the game. Reminds me of Matt Coleville. Keep working; you're going places.

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How does it work?

Yeah, it can be pretty intimidating for new players to look at that list of archetypes on path builder. I wish there was a good way to organize them.

Hell yea! Glad we could entertain!

We love to hear stuff like this! If your on discord feel free to pop into ours and let us know how it goes!

A Sleepwalker with the Reflection Heritage

Thank you!

YES! That sounds awesome!

The MATHOMANCER!

Oh yes, first edition, those were the days!

It's G R E A T.

Hey there! We just updated the video with chapters because of your recommendation and plan on doing so in the future! thank you for your support it means allot to us!

@@goblinsalvagerites Thanks a bunch!!

I miss DL so so SO much…picked up the new one (prior to the OGL fiasco) and it feels nice against my cheek.

Beast master is definitely powerful, especially when it gets one free action a round! The thaumaturge archetype is blowing our mind tho.... Very powerful utility for such a low price, a lot of the alchemist archetype.

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To be fair, it was used in his edge watch game that he's playing more as a noir story. So often information is what you're FIGHTING FOR. So to get it for free feels like it cheapens the genre.

That sounds awesome!

@@goblinsalvagerites he is really fun, when I went dual weirder warrior at lvl 2 it threw off the main GM until he realized I was looking at one feat that made the character work. Dual weapon throwing….. dual slice is the same as twin takedown and I still got that at lvl 2. The move to sorcerer archetype once I had the CHA was kept quiet until I finally used suplcurial mask focus spell😂

Dual Weapon Warrior fills a hole most martials don't even think it's there. Dual slice is basically the fighter equivalent of flurry of blows from the monk except instead of being action efficient it's Multi Attack Penalty efficient. Which fighters don't even have to sweat as bad as say a Rogue or a class with slower proficiency scaling like say a barbarian which would get their rage damage on two weapons. Take away that multi attack penalty with say rapiers or something with swipe like a battle ax and you have effective round damage with either crits or freebies from swipes. Could also add a shield with a boss and pick up shield block with Viking shield bearer for free if you're human or half human. There's so much to it to include throwing like the other guy said. A bandolier or chakaris give you reload 0

@@horseblinderson4747 Agreed, At the table I play at most of the martial fighters do respectable damage but are predominantly tanking. We were new to PF2E so it was a carry over mentality from 5e. We started to run a parallel campaign to the one with the ranger build I discussed and a guy at our table in the new campaign ran a barbarian dual weapon warrior and loved the attack economy he gained. It’s a good point about the chackram and bandolier. My second character skilled into the Chackram, It has been a fun campaign.

YES. We've wanted them to be good for so long, but they're just not yet.

Lay on hands has the Somatic component, that means it gains the Manipulate trait. but it does not have the Concentrate Trait, meaning you can cast it while raging: 2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=395 However command animal does have the Concentrate trait meaning you cant use it while raging. But a mature animal Does get one action even when not commanded by the player. Thanks for the comment!

@@goblinsalvagerites Thanks for the content. Recently discovered the channel and have been catching up on episodes.

That would be awesome! ( And a great hook for your DM)

That is an awesome spin on the mummy! Mechanically a mummy barbarian is pretty neat too, especially if you focus on unarmed strikes.

Is this a city campaign? We goblins seem best suited for this sort of thing due to our cells being made from the same material as high-bounce balls.

It is indeed a city campaign! Goblin monks, with the right options, can get a movement of 40, and can take some feats that make them great acrobats.

THATS AN AWESOME IDEA! we love it.

"And then you went into battle?" "No. I died. From the fall." - Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves

CANNON.

The only trap we meant to speak of is the fact that the thaumaturges ability to be a striker is not quite up to par with every other full marshal class in the game. If we compare it to the investigator, you'll find that the investigator has a way to use their key ability modifier stat, intelligence, as a way to hit and deal damage. In contrast the thaumaturge struggles in that regard. The difference is minor, but if you don't build the character with that in mind, it can be far greater than just a +1 difference. One of our friends is trying the game for the first time and chose the thaumaturge class and ended up with a fairly unoptimized character because of it. MAD (multiple attribute dependency) Is something that was supposed to have been left behind and first edition. But it seems to be creeping back in. That's all. Beyond that, the class is incredibly interesting! At this point we're rambling, but, from a build perspective, they remind me a lot of the alchemist. It's definitely not a class for Timmy's (to lean on the psychographic profiles from magic the gathering) If anything, it's a class for spikes who understand that while they may not feel that powerful or useful in the game, there. Multi-faceted nature is a great strength to any party if built to support the weaknesses of that party.

I would totally allow this at the table!

That sounds awesome! And will work very well in a AV game. What are the other players playing?

Doctor Indiana Van Helsing. "I LIKE IT"!

YES! AND THAT NUMBER IS ONLY GROWING.

Damn that's brutal...

Ty!

Positive follow-up.

Clearly a pod because you called it that. I searched for “goblin salvage rights” on iPhone and no luck. Forgive the dummy question

Not a bad question at all! your comment sparked me to go investigate and it turns out I needed to update a silly checkbox for out pod to be visible on apple podcasts, so thank you! it should be available now.

Not a bad question at all! your comment sparked me to go investigate and it turns out I needed to update a silly checkbox for out pod to be visible on apple podcasts, so thank you! it should be available now.

Absolutely, couldn't agree more

How so? Any good examples?

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This was probably their first experimentation with making class archetypes. They've gotten a lot better at it since then. We also tend to undervalue the ability to do typed damage that can overcome resistances.

WOW! And to think that's just for one Archetype, most players can have up to about three archetypes from lvl 1-20. 🤯

x 160 for 2nd, x 159 for third ... but that is rough estimate. I don't know enough rules to know if any combos exclude each other ...

In comparison to the other rare archetypes they are on par in power. However compared to the vampire template they are undeniably worse. But that's like comparing apples and oranges, in PF2E relative power of a choice is relative to the category with which it sits. These are archetypes, specifically rare ones. If you couch its power relative to other rare archetypes. You'll find that they are actually a little more powerful than most. The undead traits are... Pretty cool.

We love the feed back! We have a lot of fans saying they like the chit chat, makes them feel like they're hanging out at the table with us. How do you think we could keep that magic while still making it appealing to fans like you?

@@goblinsalvagerites Keep the conversation on point and moving forward in a relevant way. Just look at the transcript portion below that I chose randomly. You say it was “amazingly implemented” but you provide no example of how this is done or how it could be used in gameplay. Instead, there’s a lot of tangential joking. It’s not easy to track or follow the through line. Even when it seems like you’re actually about to get back on track, you go out on another tangent and joke about some thing that’s loosely associated with the example you haven’t even given. You won’t lose anyone who listen now. And I’ll bet you’ll gain a larger following. My apologies. I want you guys to succeed. “let's talk about this so one of my honorable mentions for the ones that I took out I just wrote all of the 20:23 undead archetypes yeah because just an umbrella the implementation of the 20:28 undead archetypes to me was a unexpected and be pleasantly surprising yeah I was 20:35 they were unexpectedly amazingly implemented in a way that I was just like this makes total sense yeah and 20:42 there's an odd expectation that I know I had and I think you had as well I know other people at the table had it when we first got the book where like if you're 20:49 a ghoul in my case my character know there you can play a lich starting out you know uh 12th level uh 12th level yeah that's right skeleton is 21:01 first but um but some of these uh some of these archetypes Undead types and skeleton is they're like baby versions of what we find in the monster manual or 21:08 the Beast Cherry yeah a skeleton isn't even an archetype it's a it's a it's An ancestry it's An ancestry that's the I 21:13 think that's the only one that is an ancestry God that book is just l've got to read more of that yeah 21:18 only know that because uh not nick uh because Alex plays right little bones yeah you had to study all that more than I did so the reason why I picked the ghoul uh for a couple of reasons one I 21:29 love Interview with a Vampire I just I love those stories um Stubb's a zombie is one of my top five favorite video 21:34 games anywhere and if you don't know stubs a zombie go get it right now and start playing it 21:41 yeah you can pull your head off and Bowl your enemies out you can pull your pancreas out throw it at somebody and it 21:47 explodes just for some reason you have another pancreas after that yeah there's a let's play Let's Play on RU-vid it's 21:53 •] awesome so uh so Google basically any of the undeads uh dual weapon Warrior because I love pitch 21:59 black Three Musketeers Gladiator I love”

First time listening. Loves this podcast. Diff strokes for diff folks. Just make content, worry about others later :)

As opposed to a podcast where we sit in a room staring at each other silently? 🤔 Exchanging glances that only the best viewers will know the meaning of.

@@goblinsalvagerites Although it is a fair point that a silent podcast would be awkward at best, this one still makes me feel like I don't belong in the room. But then again, it almost took you nearly 30 minutes to get to the subject matter, at which point (to me at least) your voices have turned to white noise. I'm sorry, but I guess what I'm trying to say is the pacing could you some work, in my personal opinion. I'm afraid this video wasn't very useful to me in the end, sort of went in one ear and out the other. I remember something about a Spell Shot?, but that's also about it.

That's fair. A lot of people enjoy the pod for its conversational style, so you may find our short episodes more to your liking. We try to keep those concise and to the point.

@@goblinsalvagerites I think I'll try to give them a look. :3