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Paulus's 6th Army ORDER OF BATTLE - Before Stalingrad 

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This is the German Sixth Army's Order of Battle prior to the Battle of Stalingrad in 1942-1943. Please see the notes and sources in the PINNED COMMENT in the comment's section below. If you can help me fill in the gaps, let me know!
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@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
*Notes* It’s 9 corps, not 8. And it’s also 4 panzer divisions, not 3. Only noticed when I was editing and too late to go back. Yes! I can’t count! Map shown is actually for the 24th of July rather than the 23rd, simply because it turns out I don’t have an accurate map for the 23rd of July. The reason for doing the order of battle on the 23rd of July is because I will be following the events in detail from the 24th of July 1942 to the 2nd of February 1943 in my upcoming Stalingrad documentary. When’s it coming? Well, considering it’s taken me 55 minutes just to tell you which units are in the 6th Army, I think we can confidently say “in a bit”. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PMEXIocRfOg.html I do not know if 44th Infantry Division had a reconnaissance battalion. If it did, I don’t know which one it is. I also don’t know the artillery unit for 60th Motorized Division - let me know if you know! Several other units don’t have unit symbols or generals, and I don’t know the leaders for a lot of them. If you can help me out, please do! *Important Links* Please consider supporting me on *Patreon* and help make more videos like this possible www.patreon.com/TIKhistory Link to MHV video “Organization & Structure of a German Infantry Division in World War 2” ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_tiH5YCa8Qs.html Link to my “The MAIN Reason Why Germany Lost WW2 - OIL” video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kVo5I0xNRhg.html Link to my “Croatian Legion” video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bVbqdD6CmOI.html Link to Don't Buy This Book! "With Paulus at Stalingrad" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-51_6olyYPDo.html Link to “Death of the Leaping Horsemen Book Review” ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sPNhk7ForPw.html *Selected Bibliography/Sources* Adam, W. Rühle, O. “With Paulus at Stalingrad.” Pen and Sword Books, 2015. Beevor, A. “The Second World War.” Phoenix, 2012. Glantz, D. House, J. “The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 1. To the Gates of Stalingrad. Soviet-German Combat Operations, April-August 1942.” University Press of Kansas, 2009. Glantz, D. House, J. “The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 2. Armageddon in Stalingrad: September-November 1942.” University Press of Kansas, 2009. Glantz, D. House, J. “The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 1. To the Gates of Stalingrad. Soviet-German Combat Operations, April-August 1942.” University Press of Kansas, 2009. Glantz, D. House, J. “The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 3. Endgame at Stalingrad Book One: November 1942..” University Press of Kansas, 2014. Glantz, D. House, J. “The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 3. Endgame at Stalingrad Book Two: December 1942-February 1943.” University Press of Kansas, 2014. Heiber, H. Glantz, D. “Hitler and his Generals. Military Conferences 1942-1945.” Enigma Books, 2004. Mitcham, S. “Hitler’s Legions: German Army Order of Battle World War II.” Redwood Burn Limited, 1985. Mitcham, S. “German Order of Battle: Volume One: 1st-290th Infantry Divisions in WWII.” Stackpole Books, 2007. Mitcham, S. “German Order of Battle: Volume Two: 291st-999th Infantry Divisions, Named Infantry Divisions, and Special Divisions in WWII.” Stackpole Books, 2007. Mitcham, S. “German Order of Battle: Volume Three: Panzer, Panzer Grenadier, and Waffen SS Divisions in WWII.” Stackpole Books, 2007. Mark, J. Obhodas, A. “Croatian Legion: The 369th Reinforced (Croatian) Infantry Regiment on the Eastern Front 1941-1943.” Leaping Horsemen Books, 2010. Mark, J. “Death of the Leaping Horsemen: The 24th Panzer Division in Stalingrad 12th August - 20th November 1942.” Stackpole Books, Kindle 2003. Mark, J. “Panzer Krieg: Volume 1: German Armoured Operations at Stalingrad.” Leaping Horsemen Books, 2017. Thanks for watching!
@thoughtfulpug1333
@thoughtfulpug1333 6 лет назад
TIK Do you know about the site Axi history? Has somr details about units from Fronts to even Battalions. www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/germany-a-austria/heer/150-germany-heer/heer-divisionen/3769-79-infanterie-division Link to the page for the 79th Division
@k3i0
@k3i0 6 лет назад
www.stalingrad-feldpost.de/Truppen-neu/LI-AK/14_PD/79_ID/79id79_id.html i think thats a picture of schwerin
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I do, but I'm usually reluctant to use internet sources. I will if I have no other choice (which is what I'm currently having to do with the order of battle for Operation Crusader). Thank you for the link though! I will use it :)
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
@ k3io - are we sure? It's not great and the words are over it, but if that's the best out there, I'll take it! @ imperator servat - hi and welcome, glad you like it :)
@thoughtfulpug1333
@thoughtfulpug1333 6 лет назад
TIK Here's the primary page for the German Heer units and formations. Most of the information for the Infantry Divisions are about 3 paragraphs each, not going into much detail, aside from deployment, commanders, and OOB
@222rich
@222rich 6 лет назад
a million times better than the innaccurate rubbish on the history channel i've been shaking my head at over the last 15 years!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
That is why I'm making these videos - because this is the type of content I wanted when I was a kid
@aden5776
@aden5776 6 лет назад
Yes, RU-vid has definitely picked up the slack where crappy documentaries have failed.
@johnd2058
@johnd2058 5 лет назад
RU-vid has also become a prime conduit for the Kremlin's disinformation ops, along with everyone else's. Given the choice, I'll take the good ol' days when complete-and-utter fabrications weren't presented with the same level of contextual-legitimacy as imprecise but nonetheless basically true material (in open societies).
@Phobos_Anomaly
@Phobos_Anomaly 5 лет назад
The "History" channel is a joke. It's full of pseudoscience like that ridiculous "Ancient Aliens" bullshit and sensationalist nonsense.
@6idangle
@6idangle 5 лет назад
Agreed but 20+ years ago it ignited in me a love for history of all types. For that it was useful. Also while the content was mediocre back then it was a lot better.
@jeffreynelson2660
@jeffreynelson2660 6 лет назад
the unit symbols represent the unit type: For infantry, the X represents crossed rifles; the artillery dot represents a cannon ball; the horizontal E of engineers represents a bridge, the oval of armor units represents the tracks of a tank, the zig zag of the signals unit represents a bolt of lightning, or electricity.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Very good. I should have mentioned that in the video!
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 6 лет назад
and the V of the antitank unit , represents the spread out legs of the tankgun. And the anti aircraft v represents ??? the speed of an arrow of the projectile aimed at high altitudes ???
@jeffreynelson2660
@jeffreynelson2660 6 лет назад
I don't recall anyone shooting arrows at aircraft... I have no idea what the v stands for, possibly nothing.
@jeffreynelson2660
@jeffreynelson2660 6 лет назад
Of course it could be the spread out legs of the tank gun crew's girlfriends...
@davidhimmelsbach557
@davidhimmelsbach557 6 лет назад
It's usually an "A" -- which looks remarkably like, the optical sights used with all FLAK guns. ( Stereo range finder )
@jeffreymcfadden9403
@jeffreymcfadden9403 6 лет назад
i can understand the 22nd div. and their rodent problems. a few years ago, i went out to start the truck. i thought the fuel pump was out. nope. a mouse had chewed through the 3 sending unit wires and the 4 fuel pump wires. all 7 wires were cut. a very efficient mouse.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Rattenkrieg"
@ddbrady3787
@ddbrady3787 6 лет назад
Obviously an experienced Red Army rodent.
@Neves1789
@Neves1789 6 лет назад
As a historian, history teacher, WW2 enthousiast, scale modeller and wargamer, all I can say is OMNOMNOMNOM. This is excellent content!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Haha I laughed! Glad you liked this. Which games do you play? And by historian, does this mean you have written history books?
@Neves1789
@Neves1789 6 лет назад
Mostly Flames of War (though a lot of other wargames too, too much to list here). Also some hex and counter games and Hearts of Iron on pc. Have not written any books (yet), only got a masters in history :) Really looking forward to the next installment!
@miguelpl22
@miguelpl22 6 лет назад
One of the best channels there is, glad I found you
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Glad you did too!
@ftffighter
@ftffighter 6 лет назад
This pumped me up so much...it's like pre-fight footage showing the stats of both fighters designed to hype you up for the big fight! TIK, you've seriously set the quality standard astronomically high for future documentaries from other "historians" in the realm of historical details, their accuracy, and lack of bias. So much so that I just can't watch any of the other documentaries on RU-vid (or anywhere else for that matter) without feeling as if something is missing. Stalingrad is going to be a masterpiece!!! TIK for life..Thank you for creating these vids btw.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Wow, thank you fighter! It's great to hear you appreciate the quality - I spend a lot of time on these videos, and I do want to set a high standard. Like you said, there's a lot of documentaries out there that leave too much out. I always leave them feeling I want more. So I want to create the videos I wanted as a kid. "Super-accurate and filthy-detailed" as Indisguise often says. And I feel like I'd be letting everyone down if I don't provide those details in as unbiased a way as possible. So it really is good to hear you're enjoying them. Makes it all worth it :)
@1MCValli
@1MCValli 6 лет назад
Best sentence: Does not survive the Battle of Stalingrad.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
That's probably the only thing you need to know about this order of battle :D
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 6 лет назад
STALINGRAD MASSENGRAB
@davidolie8392
@davidolie8392 6 лет назад
Yep. Perp walk for all of them.
@rogi_itsumi5370
@rogi_itsumi5370 5 лет назад
They save Europe from Bolschewism!
@tailgunnerrich592
@tailgunnerrich592 3 года назад
Succinct and to the point!
@johnivkovich8655
@johnivkovich8655 6 лет назад
Your videos started out as well thought out and informative. You are getting better.... thank you for all of your hard work.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
No worries John, I wouldn't make them any other way :)
@xXHoratiuTheBobXx
@xXHoratiuTheBobXx 5 лет назад
I always heard my great grandpa was wounded somewhere near Stalingrad. He actually managed to make it back to Romania after the war but had a weird twitch in his eye (I think the bullet was close to his lung). This video kind of explains how he got there so thank you for making it.
@Karelwolfpup
@Karelwolfpup 6 лет назад
awesome to see, TIK, could not have been easy to collate all this, hat's off to you mate o7
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
It wasn't easy, but it was fun :)
@karenalletson9767
@karenalletson9767 6 лет назад
My late very good friend 'Kurt Adam' was a medic in the 6th army. He was shot in the neck by a Russian partisan and evacuated to the west, so missed going into the bag with the rest of them. I have some of his medals. I have a picture of him with his first wife and child, both of whom were killed in a British Bomb raid. I knew his second wife and his daughter. All now sadly gone. I think your presentations are among the best i have seen. Military History is my thing!
@thomasvandevelde8157
@thomasvandevelde8157 2 года назад
The Irony... My father suffered the same fate! Only in Army Group A down South, and he avoided the later encirclements (often overlooked because of the drama of immense proportions taking place in Stalingrad City itself). He got hit during a Soviet artillery attack, and was put on one of the last wounded transports that left across the Black Sea to Odessa. The other 143 men under his command all perished in the subsequent battle.
@joshjwillway1545
@joshjwillway1545 6 лет назад
Favorite history channel, you need waaaaaay more subs
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Thanks Josh :)
@brotomann
@brotomann 6 лет назад
I certainly care about the bread the Wehrmacht were eating! I think the food situation, especially on the Eastern Front, is often underlooked when you think of how many of the soldiers were fighting underfed, distracted by hunger pains and weakened from lack of energy
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
True, although knowing which baker battalion was attached to each unit is not necessary for that. Interestingly, with the Ukraine overrun, the Soviet population was suffering badly from a food shortage. There's a few accounts of Soviet civilians joining the Red Army in the hope that the food situation at the front was better... to find that it actually wasn't. But yes, this is a subject that is often overlooked
@panzermacher
@panzermacher 6 лет назад
not only that, your body burns up twice as many calories during winter trying to stay warm. Just trying to provide a minimum of 300gms of flour to 300,000 soldiers per day equals 90,000 Kgs or 90 tons or an airlift of 45 He III per day, it's a logistical nightmare.
@martymarv7644
@martymarv7644 6 лет назад
A bunch of factors came into play when we talk about the starving germans during the invasion of Stalingrad.Harsh weather,lack of effectiveness from the Luftwaffe to get the proper tons of food ,ammo,and other supplies to the front lines,but probably the most crucial factor was the Soviet counterattack forcing the entire enemy army into a Kessel. Yours truly, Young Black American.
@robveenenberg7053
@robveenenberg7053 6 лет назад
In all sorts of harsh wetaher, freezing cold, rain, tunderstorms, mud pools, piles os snow, blizzards aso
@kstreet7438
@kstreet7438 5 лет назад
brotomann not hungry on meth
@fulanitoflyer
@fulanitoflyer 6 лет назад
You can tell, this TIK guy puts so much work in his videos! great channel
@friedrichwilhemalexandervo3046
@friedrichwilhemalexandervo3046 4 года назад
Cant get enough of the profound knowledge embedded in TIKs videos and narrations ; deeply impressed by his knowings about the cases...thank you TIK !
@TheBigSleazy
@TheBigSleazy 6 лет назад
This level of detail was VERY interesting. It was also interesting how you were able to give information on the fates of their commanders
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I wanted to do so much more on the commanders (and units etc), but there's not a lot in English. My German isn't good enough to read German yet either :(
@TheBigSleazy
@TheBigSleazy 6 лет назад
But that detail is out there? It may be somewhat morbid but these units that were destroyed at Stalingrad are so interesting. I wonder what units outside of the pocket would know about these units final stands!! Keep up the fantastic work
@w0tna781
@w0tna781 6 лет назад
Wonderfully well done, keep it up you good man!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Will do! Glad you liked it!
@strizhi6717
@strizhi6717 6 лет назад
Dude you're an absolute genius!!! I cant get enough...glad I subbed!!
@nicudanciu5758
@nicudanciu5758 5 лет назад
Excellent and fantastic documented, as allways! Congrats!
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 6 лет назад
Been really looking forward to this one. Thank you TIK! Keep up the great work sir.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I hope it lives up to expectations! A lot of information in it
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 6 лет назад
It was great. Now I can't wait until the next Stalingrad video.
@blockboygames5956
@blockboygames5956 4 года назад
That terrifyingly repetitive phrase "This Division did not survive the battle of Stalingrad." I was actually deeply moved by this whole video. Thanks so much Tik.
@whiff1962
@whiff1962 6 лет назад
Your grasp of all things historical, in respect to your chosen topics, is nothing short of extraordinary, whether your presentations be scripted or not. Very impressed with your thoroughness and engaging manner of delivery. Kudos!
@dirtmagnet9490
@dirtmagnet9490 4 года назад
Excellent informative video. Keep them coming
@Miguel_Travels
@Miguel_Travels 6 лет назад
I am a Yankee with a love for the Eastern Front. I find the story of the German 6th Army very intriguing... So, so happy that I found your channel. Thank you so very much.
@phamxuanthai1
@phamxuanthai1 6 лет назад
your videos are gold man, I rarely hit notification button on RU-vid, but for this channel, it is a must, keep up the good work!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Great! Hope you like next week's video - little bit different again, so you'll have to let me know :)
@bigjohno242
@bigjohno242 4 года назад
TIK - you truly are a superb military historian. I thought I had reasonably good knowledge of the Stalingrad campaign . I’ve had to totally think again - thanks for these brilliant videos.
@BoneIdolUK
@BoneIdolUK 6 лет назад
Wow very thorough! Looking forward to the full documentary you keep teasing!
@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 6 лет назад
Great research! Keep up the good work!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Thanks! And, yes sir! :)
@TheBloodyHanded
@TheBloodyHanded 6 лет назад
This is amazing! I've never before had an interest in ww2 history, but I've been binging your videos and really grown to like what you teach! Do you have any literature recommendations for a new learner?
@davidm7888
@davidm7888 5 лет назад
Well done TIK! I thoroughly enjoy your documentaries. I find them to be accurate and well presented. Lots of personal learning from your dedicated work and effort. Cheers.
@adamskinner5868
@adamskinner5868 5 лет назад
I love the detail you go into and the explanations, where so many sources give you facts with absolute certainty, even when they are wrong, you tell us what you know, where the info came from, what you don't know and couldn't find good data on, what is your best guess, what you think and why. This gives us so much more detail and understanding about what was really happening and why. I really appreciate the effort you put into your research and the vid's you make, it's true history.
@Elementalism
@Elementalism 6 лет назад
Fascinating video. Listing each unit and their destruction really strikes home what a catastrophic defeat this was for the Germans. Looking forward to future videos about the actual battle.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Thank you m, and yes, it also shows the scale of the conflict too, which was truly massive. More to come :)
@patrickdoran1459
@patrickdoran1459 6 лет назад
Excellent information ... you're also correct about wikipedia ...
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Glad you agree :)
@davidolie8392
@davidolie8392 6 лет назад
Wikipedia is only so good as the sources it has available, because everything has to be sourced. Don't blame Wikipedia. Blame the hundreds of authors who have skated on post-war German authors trying to exculpate their guilt for war crimes.
@RaduB.
@RaduB. 6 лет назад
Patrick Doran Hi! I couldn't have said it better. 🙂
@bcgames4054
@bcgames4054 6 лет назад
Agree with your start date, TIK. The issuance of Directive 45 on 23 July named Stalingrad as an objective for 6th Army for the first time. Never thought I could find an hour-long briefing on order of battle entertaining--but...I did! You are an excellent teller of history. Good work!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
That's it, plus the fighting really got going on the 24th of July, so it makes sense to start there. Up until this point it had just been a race across the Ukraine/North Caucasus area. Good to hear you enjoyed the video! It's not something I've really done before, so it's good to hear you enjoyed it :)
@Lemonhead209
@Lemonhead209 4 года назад
Quality work, very impressed.
@Thechezbailey
@Thechezbailey 6 лет назад
I'll say it so TIK doesn't have to. Smash that like and subscribe! Smash it like it's the 29th motorized division (which did not survive the battle of Stalingrad).
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Haha thanks
@JPGraafland
@JPGraafland 6 лет назад
Ah, a TIK video about Stalingrad.. This should be good. Hoping for another quality vid, probably not too high of an expectation since you usually deliver quality stuff.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Well, this isn't going to be like the previous two, since it's more of a reference. But, anyone waiting for Battlestorm Stalingrad will now have a reference to the size of the battle and enormity of the task I've committed myself to
@JPGraafland
@JPGraafland 6 лет назад
As one of the people waiting for the vid to come out and someone who committed to your challenge of watching the whole thing in one sitting back from when you replied to the 'Is it done yet' comments. I'll be looking forward to it.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Fantastic! :) well, as you can probably tell by this video, it really is going to be big. At least I won't have to do a full "order of battle" bit in it now though because I've released this. That should shorten it by around 50 minutes!
@ethantanner4954
@ethantanner4954 6 лет назад
This is great and informative. It makes lunch at my high school a bit more educational, at least when my friends arent here or not talking. Love the videos!
@m76251
@m76251 6 лет назад
Beautifully done. As always
@ramonruijgt4532
@ramonruijgt4532 6 лет назад
order of battles is intresting plz so some more. also would like to see some focus on minor nations or fronts.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Ok! If you insist :)
@kdfulton3152
@kdfulton3152 5 лет назад
I love how you don’t fall into the “popular beliefs” but give us 100% accurate information. I also loved how you tried to stump with “the only non-German “ division to fight IN Stalingrad. Very interesting; very informative! Thank you 🙏😁👍👏👏👏
@thegift20luis
@thegift20luis Год назад
Outstanding Thanks for sharing
@dick3654
@dick3654 6 лет назад
Well done. Thank you very much.
@Saddam_al-Husseini
@Saddam_al-Husseini 3 года назад
“It’s Powlus not Porlus” Thank you man! I like people who pronounce things in the correct way according to the language. Edit: Also I like the maps.
@greywhizzadventurer8535
@greywhizzadventurer8535 6 лет назад
Definitely the best ww2 documentary channel on youtube. It's a real shame that you can't take part in the Time Ghost collab cause I think you would have definitely been their number 1 contributor.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
It is a shame, but I'm struggling to get these Monday videos out as it is, plus do the research on Crusader and Stalingrad. There's no way I could commit to helping them
@greywhizzadventurer8535
@greywhizzadventurer8535 6 лет назад
Yeah, it's ok man. I understand this is a massive undertaking you're going through so it's all good. What do you think of LindyBeige being in the project though? He always strikes me as an entertaining youtuber and he is fairly informative on Medieval and Ancient history, but his grasp on WW2 and modern history seems limited. He also seems to show massive bias against anything that is not British. Not to say I hate the guy but his track record when it comes to anything post medieval era is extremely wonky. I have huge concern he might spread false information about history. I mean he already did it once in his Spandau vs Bren gun video.
@StarlightEater
@StarlightEater 4 года назад
Another amazing video, I sure hope you are making a good living at this stuff bud, it is a real treat to history buffs the world over. Good tidings from Detroit, USA.
@DressedForDrowning
@DressedForDrowning Год назад
Very valuable information. Thank you, TIK! 40:02 - LOL!! 😀
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 6 лет назад
Well, there goes my Momday evening xD Thank you!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Or at least 55 minutes of it!
@raymondrogers3929
@raymondrogers3929 6 лет назад
Thanks for all the work you put into this. Just some thoughts. As an artilleryman, part of an artillery battery deployed to Iraq as infantry, the battalion I was in had two batteries that were equipped with infantry gear and one stayed on the guns. The unit that stayed on its guns, on paper belonged to the 3rd BCT in Diayala, but it had sent a few guns down to Fallujah when things kicked off there. They only sent a few guns, but fired hundreds, if not thousands of shells. Historians may read about a mention 50 years from now from an obscure source and be confused by this unit being mentioned in both places, and think that it did not have elements that participated in Fallujah since the rest of the battery remained in Diyala. So while it is possible for generals and commanders to get things confused, it is also a possibility that subunits without designations were in places unknown to others simply because the documentation is not there. We had an attached MP company, converted battery units, detached gun sections, and added forward observers organized in sections all included in the batallion. Brigade QRF consisted of a mix of tank units and infantry units that varied in unit size throughout the campaign. I imagine with the size of the Stalingrad operation, (and many other operations) many transitional unit moves were made that went unnoticed on paper. The larger ones may have been noted, but I wonder how many of the smaller ones did not. On the subject of labelling an entire group, I'd be a bit more careful. Deporting people back to the Reich didn't necessarily mean the soldiers knew the conditions of those factories. I'm sure many did participate in activities that we would find repulsive now, and may have been repulsive by the standards of the day, but in the end armies are made up of individuals. Each has his moral standard, perception, tolerance, and outlook. Some viewed Germany's decision to go to war as an expansionistic opportunity and others viewed it as a necessary pre-emptive strike. While it's absolutely important to mention the orders, the deportation, and the destruction, nuance still has an important role in creating a narrative.
@AF-nh2ux
@AF-nh2ux 6 лет назад
One of my favorite ways to think about guilt and war is directly taken from Buddhist thought. It argues that the "stain" of the war is on everyone involved in the war, from general all the way to private. The idea is that a war is intensely immoral, and everyone bears responsibility. This is not to say that everyone is equally responsible, far from it, but rather that you can't escape a war without being responsible on some level. This would especially be true for the German army. Yes, maybe there were 'individuals' who might have been against it, but people talk about this too much. How many didn't care? How many ignored it? How many thought it was completely fine? They still fought with the German army. Even if they didn't even directly participate - it's not enough to excuse them. The sheer level of evil and horror in WW2 is so high that I find it hard to believe a soldier could even pretend it didn't exist. It also ignores the fact that the army culture/soldier culture almost certainly permitted and encouraged horrendous actions. At the very least you can say that the culture itself is guilty of all of these crimes.
@stephaniewilson3955
@stephaniewilson3955 4 года назад
@@AF-nh2ux when the concentration camps were found the British sent in film crews to make a record. It was too horrific to show in the cinema, it was decided. The BBC did show it, decades later, just once. I watched it. Towards the end of the film it shows the locals being taken through the camp (I do not remember which one). They start off treating it as a day out. By the time they have been marched through and shown the mass graves full of people who starved to death they are horrified. They were living alongside this death camp and did not understand what was going on. Perhaps they did not want to understand. It is far too easy to close your eyes and ears.
@renanmiranda3531
@renanmiranda3531 6 лет назад
This chanel is awesome thank you dude!
@chriszelez7970
@chriszelez7970 3 года назад
Brilliant lecture, well done TIK.
@jan42
@jan42 6 лет назад
The German Wikipedia spells it Sixt von Armin, Source is the "Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels"('Genealogical Handbook of the Nobility') and explicitly states the spelling "Arnim" is wrong.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 6 лет назад
Arnim is a geographical place;Arnim, Stendal, Germany (might even go as far as a conversion of Arnhem, Arnhim, etc..). VON Arnim means some sort of nobility family claiming that area. ArMin is simply a misspelling. (perhaps the misspelling happened in Napoleon times, and got mainstream/accepted since then..there are more Napoleontic namespelling change examples...).
@jan42
@jan42 6 лет назад
Yes, there is a von Arnim Family. What makes you so sure, that Sixt belongs to this family? We could ask: www.vonarnim.com/
@thhseeking
@thhseeking 3 года назад
There was a Hans-Jürgen von Arnim, who was in Africa. There was a von Armin in the First World War. This von Armin was his son.
@user-wg2vd9bn1g
@user-wg2vd9bn1g 6 лет назад
On 39:45 in Russia we have joke about General frost , heat Pasha , Colonel rasputitsa and major mouse
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Well, all I know is that this General Frost is no joke ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7C_HoMVhKAI.html :)
@davidolie8392
@davidolie8392 6 лет назад
Privet, Andreii. The mice were drawn to the wiring because it was insulated with rubber, which is organic and a food source. Modern wiring, which is insulated with plastic, would not interest them at all.
@SuperZordian
@SuperZordian 6 лет назад
Rats do like them though. Think it more for chewing than a food source.
@russianmovieswithenglishsu4128
Another version of this joke is that If Frost and Rasputitsa were Soviet Generals, they should be shot for treason.
@Centrodemasa
@Centrodemasa 3 года назад
Magnificent job TIK....cheers from Chile.
@paulmaserati8330
@paulmaserati8330 6 лет назад
Explained it Near Perfect to me👍➡️your seminar lecture is A+
@roverboat2503
@roverboat2503 3 года назад
You probably already have it below but: "The insignia of the 79th Division is a grey Lorraine cross on a blue shield with a grey border; it was adopted during World War I. Having distinguished itself at Montfaucon, in Lorraine, the division selected the Cross of Lorraine, a symbol of triumph since the 15th Century, as its insignia". I have a photo of von Schwerin but I can't attach it here.
@adventureinc1568
@adventureinc1568 6 лет назад
I approve this video.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
It has the Official "AdventureInc" seal of approval. Therefore I'm happy :)
@johnhenderson131
@johnhenderson131 Год назад
Fantastic, finally the channel I’ve been looking for. Now we’re talking proper military lecturing. Excellent and professional
@RhetoricAndReason
@RhetoricAndReason 6 лет назад
This is top notch information. Thank you.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
You're welcome!
@badpritt3845
@badpritt3845 6 лет назад
The name is Sixt von Armin. There might be some confusion because there is also a German/Prussian noble dynasty "von Arnim". And there are quite a few German officers in WW2 named "von Arnim". But the officer mentioned by you was Sixt von Armin. Armin is also used as a first name and derivates from an old Germanic word meaning something like heroic. "Von Arnim" refers to the village "Arnim" which was protected by the castle "Arneburg". So the Graf von Arnim was the Earl of Arnim.
@nomcognom2332
@nomcognom2332 6 лет назад
Thumbs up!
@v44n7
@v44n7 5 лет назад
Amazing video!
@parameshmp6888
@parameshmp6888 5 лет назад
Well covered. Great job.
@VasileIuga
@VasileIuga 6 лет назад
Ion will be spelled as Yon or Eon as in RU-vid or Eat or living not Aion or Eion like in life. It is almost 100% spelled as yawn. So more or less Ion in Romanian is yawn, but means John.
@fazole
@fazole 6 лет назад
Pretty comprehensive AND your German pronunciation is improving. It's interesting that you say the Battle of Stalingrad started in July 42 as the common story is Hitler thought the Soviet Army had been nearly eliminated since there was little resistance on the path to Stalingrad. Looking forward to your usual outstanding original analysis!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Yeah, this idea that the Germans had an easy ride until they reached the city buildings simply isn't true. The battle for the Don bend and the battles going on between the Don and the city/Volga are probably as important than the city fight itself. Also, I can't remember who it was, but ages ago someone sent me audio of them pronouncing the general's names. So I relistened to that prior to making this :)
@graycap44
@graycap44 6 лет назад
Gosh! Very comprehensive. Congratulations on the depth of your research.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Thanks! I wanted to cover as much as I could :) just a shame I didn't have the manpower numbers for this time
@hdgsjfjdk
@hdgsjfjdk 6 лет назад
Thanks so much for these videos, I really enjoy long history videos keep them coming.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Will do! Next week's will be similar in length too :) I will be varying the length though, depending on topic
@Invicta556
@Invicta556 6 лет назад
Could you talk about the Air units involved inculding AA units around Stalingrad?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Yes I can and probably will when I do more Order of Battles or videos on the Stalingrad Airlift :)
@MrLemonbaby
@MrLemonbaby 6 лет назад
Great work bud! -Dynamic presentation. -Maps, yessssssss. -Clear presentation of complex battle. -Would have loved to have seen just five minutes of strategic over view for context. You might find the book "The German Wars" by Stargardt instructive. He went into the archives and reviewed surviving letters and photo exchanges between the troops and the folks back home. Killing Jews and others: ordinary soldiery, some were all for it at the beginning, some ambivalent but soon fell in with the idea. The Germans had a secret unit in the Fatherland that read letters, listened in on the civil society, general morale stuff etc, and the destruction of the Jews was widely known and openingly discussed--it would be difficult for it to have been any other way reading the letters from the fronts and the pictures being sent home. But here's a staggering fact that Stargardt avers i.e. that by the spring of 1942 the Germans could only replace one out of every six casualties!!! Max Hastings, in a lecture, says that ninety percent of all casualties suffered by the Germans was on the Eastern Front. Good work on your part, look forward to more from you.
@EvilMaleficus
@EvilMaleficus 6 лет назад
Now this is some fascinating stuff!
@morningstar9233
@morningstar9233 6 лет назад
I join other subscribers in thanking you again for all your hard work. This is an excellent precursor to your much anticipated presentation of the battle itself. Giving the viewer a good working knowledge of what ground forces were committed prior to the actual engagement is invaluable. Perhaps a review of available air support would be useful, though i hesitate to add to your workload. I would imagine most of your audience have some knowledge of the subject, however the detail and depth of your presentation provides a far greater understanding of this conflict.
@hackmamut
@hackmamut 6 лет назад
Please do a video like this for the Soviet side.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Don't worry, I will. Gathering sources
@Porphyrogen
@Porphyrogen 6 лет назад
Great idea, please make it relevant as much as you can. And present us some Stalingrad's maps and units locations & movements, both German and Russians.
@moss8448
@moss8448 5 лет назад
I'll bet trying to get information from that side will be like getting blood from a turnip...
@corporaltommy4407
@corporaltommy4407 6 лет назад
This is just a theory but I feel that strange symbol of the 113 division is made of the numerals of the division's number because that shape below the two lines resemble a three on its side.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
IF this is true, I'd be very impressed! :D
@davidolie8392
@davidolie8392 6 лет назад
This is my theory as well.
@esobed1
@esobed1 5 лет назад
What is the nato symbol for a mortar unit? A line with a dot. Could this be some sort of arty symbol?
@heno02
@heno02 6 лет назад
Just discovered your channel, really like it. Keep up the good work producing content m8, subscribed!
@Kevin-ws6bl
@Kevin-ws6bl 6 лет назад
This was well done. Your videos were always good and are getting better.
@Douglas.Scott.McCarron
@Douglas.Scott.McCarron 6 лет назад
I remember when I owned the board game Streets of Stalingrad and they used the ww2 unit symbols not the NATO unit symbols you used here. As I recall some of the units have the unit symbols on them also. However this game is before the fall of the Soviet Union so I don't know how accurate it was. I do know people raved about the map and it's accuracy. It is limited to the units that went into the Stalingrad and adjacent towns and villages. My memory is there was also a historical section of the rules for each German unit.
@mqcapps
@mqcapps 6 лет назад
Your opening on don't forget... Very responsible!👍
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Thank you, I'm glad to hear you agree. A lot seem to gloss over that, but I won't be pulling any punches - for both sides :)
@Algebrodadio
@Algebrodadio 6 лет назад
Great job. I like what you do man. Keep up the good work.
@chrisneira4306
@chrisneira4306 6 лет назад
I've been binge watching scores of your videos over the best couple days! Love your stuff! Also I think a really cool video or even merch idea could be all the UN unit / battalion symbols with an explanation about what they mean
@Shelmerdine745
@Shelmerdine745 6 лет назад
Great channel. I would just caution your dismissal of some sources and apparent “blind” trust in others. You should always maintain a good portion of scepticism toward any sources.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Absolutely! I think you will enjoy next week's video sir :)
@bakters
@bakters 6 лет назад
How many seconds till I pause the video to give a like? 3, 2, 1, Go! [...] *18 seconds.* "The Battle of Stalingrad is not a battle. It's a seven month's campaign!"
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I wish I'd opened with that now!
@danmunz4630
@danmunz4630 6 лет назад
bakters i
@mladen89ftn
@mladen89ftn 6 месяцев назад
HAD to come back to this video after the series ended. What an epic docu-series....
@reconmodelsvaughn469
@reconmodelsvaughn469 6 лет назад
You are awesome m8 .. keep up the good work love your videos I watch every day .
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Thank you Bradley! I hope you also like the video that's about to publish in the next 15 minutes (at 5pm GMT)
@Redshift2077
@Redshift2077 6 лет назад
I can't hold laughter everytime he says operation "Uranus"
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
At least I made one person laugh!
@BusterXXXL
@BusterXXXL 6 лет назад
Uranus has a diameter of 51,118 km and 13 known rings!
@fazole
@fazole 6 лет назад
If you just changed your cadence to that measured RP and didn't animate so much you could say "Uranus" in the perfect Monty Python parody of the BBC. But I take it you're a Northerner, and I haven't heard even one of those on the BBC!
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
The soviets just had to name the operation 'uranus' so they can rub cold icy salt onto the wounds of the attackers
@GenghisVern
@GenghisVern 6 лет назад
18:00. 376th shows corp symbol not division XXX vs XX just fyi Excellent work
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Good spot! And thank you! I will correct it now :)
@GenghisVern
@GenghisVern 6 лет назад
36:27 small small detail "5 PzIV SB" short barrel, just the text. that's it I promise :) Again, amazing work.
@jackburton9550
@jackburton9550 6 лет назад
Great video!
@bbbabrock
@bbbabrock 6 лет назад
Will have to wait until after work to actually listen to this. But I am going ahead and liking it now. Also, relating to you releasing your Stalingrad thing all at once or in pieces, I listened to your entire Marketgarden thing all at once, and I didn't really mind your brief recaps of what I had just heard .
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I may do seperate releases and some recaps in the middle of it, but I certainly can't publish anything until the whole documentary is finished. Absolutely have to do the full research and get everything perfect before I commit to publishing. Also, let me know what you think when you do watch this video :)
@bbbabrock
@bbbabrock 6 лет назад
TIK Whoa. This was an incredibly detailed exhaustive list. I am initially familiar w only a small fraction of these officers and units. Still, even saddled w such a repetitive format, you had lots of interesting details like w t that rats. I particularly liked hearing about t Croatian and Romanian units. And I am looking forward to your Russian unit video as Eastern Front WWII is my absolute fav. The level of sacrifice on both sides is almost beyond comprehension.
@edwardtroth8630
@edwardtroth8630 6 лет назад
AC/DC get a mention, YEAH!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
The Jack is my favourite of theirs
@edwardtroth8630
@edwardtroth8630 6 лет назад
Its class, great to do as a jam too. For me it has to be the Powerage album. ImI
@giveussomevodka
@giveussomevodka 6 лет назад
Go edit those Wiki articles, man! Good luck with the Stalingrad documentary, can't wait.
@DougQB
@DougQB 6 лет назад
Thank you for posting the videos. I appreciate the work you put into the research and verification of the information you are posting. You even take the time to add graphic elements -- such as the photos and unit emblems. Nicely done; I agree with the previous post, the map on the wall looks great too! ;) These vidoes take a lot of time and effort! Surprisingly, I actually read through most of the comments, but then I didn't realize the video was posted today. :o A few hours and lots of interesting and informative posts already! I may have missed a post addressing this, but I was a little confused at 9:46 - 9:50 when you displayed the location of the 100th Jager Division on the map. You say, "on the 23rd of July it is northwest of Bokovskaia", Thanks for the map! However, I was expecting the location to be a little further to the left on the map, but maybe that should be my other left? :p Maybe I'm not reading the map right. Hrm, that makes me wonder, would it be helpful if a date was included on maps? Thanks again for all the work you put into making this available!
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Hey Douglas, I'm quite surprised by the response too, considering this was more of a reference video. But it seems there's genuine interest in the order of battle, and of Stalingrad in general :) And yes, I didn't have an accurate map for the 23rd of July, so actually it's the 24th of July. This is why it's slightly out. I should have made a note in the video, but I was pressed for time and forgot. I did make a note of it in the pinned comment.
@dataman6744
@dataman6744 6 лет назад
Great job, Good, hornest unbiased take on evens, love it!
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 6 лет назад
♫ _Yeah Hauenschields 24th Panzer Division changes Order of Battle like a girl changes clothes_ ♫
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 6 лет назад
35:44 www.das-ritterkreuz.de/bilder/2166.jpg ?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I laughed :D (and thanks for the link)
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 6 лет назад
Oh! I found pictures for all the Majors in the 24th Panzer Division! Riebel: i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/26/25/e42625e74c86370ff577961206c508fe.jpg Lengerke: i.pinimg.com/564x/55/e1/b6/55e1b68faf1f812c5497e76312e4ba21.jpg Broich: nl.ww2awards.com/images-person/3380080702154008p.jpg Edelsheim: i.pinimg.com/originals/60/74/6c/60746cc1e69b713d93c473d21e0c4d29.jpg Nostitz-Wallwitz i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/25/66/b5256671792d6530ed8ab0b8b4d36245.jpg And here's one of Werner Sanne as well: www.das-ritterkreuz.de/bilder/5438.jpg I found a great site, www.tracesofwar.com/default.asp that has a small biography (and more importantly, photos) of a ludicrous number of officers from World War II
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Well, I'm impressed!
@davidhimmelsbach557
@davidhimmelsbach557 6 лет назад
That dude is a member of the 3SS. Note his distinctive collar tabs.
@MBCDC1
@MBCDC1 6 лет назад
I think many of us are well aware of the fact that there were German soldiers and units (in the regular Wehrmacht) that can be called bloody murderers, but to claim that all approximately 300.000 men of the 6th army are like them is a bit ridiculous, isn´t it?!
@thisguy7083
@thisguy7083 5 лет назад
Woodpecker. No. The brutal treatment was fairly widely spread and (compared to what we are taught) common. TIKs point, is just that. The regular Wehrmacht must also be held responsible for its crimes which were not acts of a handful of individual, particularly brutal/ blood thirsty soldiers. But rather that the Wehrmacht was also complaisant in the crime committed. I don’t think TIK means that each and every single solder was taking part. But the Wehrmacht as an organisation, certainly was.
@pedromayrinck
@pedromayrinck 6 лет назад
Very good research.
@JuanPerez-vv5lk
@JuanPerez-vv5lk 2 года назад
Finally today I learnt what all those rectangles mean, I always wanted to know it, thanks TIK for this explanation.
@Tonks143
@Tonks143 6 лет назад
Sick with the flu, this makes better viewing than anything. Cheers.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Oh no! Hope you get better soon!
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 лет назад
Who sneeze on you? The bastard
@orangekayak78
@orangekayak78 6 лет назад
And will you be saying leitinant for a Russian lieutenant?
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
Pronounced "Lee-tenant" right?
@Pyotyrpyotyrpyotyr
@Pyotyrpyotyrpyotyr 6 лет назад
"Leh-tenant" Pronunciations: "Lee-Teh- *Nant* "--common but technically incorrect "Leh-Teh- *Nant* "--common, quick and closer to being formally correct "Lei-Teh- *Nant* "--formal/propper but not used unless pedant I use the middle one as it strikes a good balance and you never feel supid saying it like that. *denotes emphasized sylable* Oh BTW, I speak both laguages fully fuently. When I'm in Russia, people dont belive me when I tell them I'm Canadian. I would love to help you pronounce anything Russian. Just say the word and i'll whip up the pronunciation of all the names on the 9:48 map. =)
@Pyotyrpyotyrpyotyr
@Pyotyrpyotyrpyotyr 6 лет назад
The emphasis is very important in russian, and I dont think you got any of them right. Two words with the same spelling can have totally different meanings depending on where the emphasis is put. Russian is hard like that.
@mihaiserafim
@mihaiserafim 6 лет назад
Loved the effort you put to pronounce Dragalina's name. You really put it all in your work.
@orangekayak78
@orangekayak78 6 лет назад
Google translate does a good job and you can hear the correct pronunciation.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 6 лет назад
IT BEGINS I was legitimately excited for this upload.
@TheImperatorKnight
@TheImperatorKnight 6 лет назад
I hope it doesn't disappoint. Let me know if it does!
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 6 лет назад
Always do. ;P I'm sure you've knocked it out of the park, though. EDIT: Ah, ya bashing Wikipedia. Wikipedia has a purpose, and it's not for providing details, it's for media and it's for giving a general outline of what is considered "public perception" or "public memory" - THAT is Wikipedia's niche and for that it excels. Of course it gets things wrong, anyone can edit the damn thing, but there is a way to use Wikipedia effectively, and it has very little to do with details and much to do with lurking the 'talk' section to understand the discourse about a person or event more-so than actually understanding the event itself. I can understand why using it as one would a regular source would lead to some very mediocre results, but so would chopping down a tree with a ball-peen hammer.
@JayMackComedy
@JayMackComedy 4 года назад
Really entertaining and informative
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