Penalteam⎮Miraculous Ladybug Season 4 Review 

The lore got me in and I watch all episode for the lore but still fell empty so thats why I consume this video

@Arafat Marius I like lore and ideas but they usually fall flat which is sad. It’s also hard for me to ignore the mountain of contrived writing to cover plot holes due to inconsistencies.

What romance?

@Lunita lol so true I mean the love square element but there’s no developments, marinettes a creepy stalker and cat noir won’t just give up on ladybug. Also side characters like kagami or luka are used in crappy ways. Hell adriens character is interesting but we get nothing from he he’s so bland at least we get something from cat but he’s useless.

I was here bcs the concept was interesting, and S2 got me hooked and invested. Then S3 came up and ruin everything, and S4 got the benefit of the doubt

He is begging you to dislike her. Thomas can't stand that fans liked Chloe. He's gone on Twitter rants about it. Chat Noir/Adrien is arguably treated just as bad, if not worse in some episodes, because Thomas also can't stand that fans like him more than ladybitch. If there is any character that the fans show support for that isn't marinette, Thomas will destroy that character.

Honestly if they wanted her to be a villain, then I am all for that since becoming a villain at least gives some character development. But instead of that she is in a stagnant position of being nothing but a petty bully. And even then her threat level is pretty much gone at this point; no one takes her seriously anymore. And what bothers me about her team up with Lila is that Lila will be the one pulling the strings further reducing Chloe's role in the story.

@@aprilvaiarella435 fr that the reason why chloe good side go

@@aprilvaiarella435 Which makes him a terrible showrunner. Like you can troll fans, and even make characters bad, but not with the subtility of a sledgehammer and just with the same spite, that makes joss whedon and cordy from angel, with real history that got really ugly there, look good.

@@marocat4749 I mean, yeah, he's not a good show runner or writer. I have no respect for him as a person because all he's ever displayed is the emotional maturity of a toddler told no for the first time. I honestly don't know how he still has fans. It's like some weird two way Stockholm syndrome. His fans hate him and the show and he hates his fans and his own characters and yet none of them can quit each other. Fan content is pretty good though. There's some real talent there.

For real this the fifth time she has got Akumatized

Honestly if they wanted her to be a villain, then I am all for that since becoming a villain at least gives some character development. But instead of that she is in a stagnant position of being nothing but a petty bully. And even then her threat level is pretty much gone at this point; no one takes her seriously anymore. And what bothers me about her team up with Lila is that Lila will be the one pulling the strings further reducing Chloe's role in the story.

Because she's an insert f9r h8s childhood bully who probably forgot he even existed. I'mma be honest, been out of school for a bit and have not thought about anyone from school.

Because this is her character

@@sakuraliuell564 It's her character because Thomas ruined her potential, that's why people are upset about this

"Yeah, its not like there aren't any episode we can replace to introduce new heroes, right?"

but we still got the bunny miraculous and that will be used two episodes later

and use chloe as ann excuse for them to be heros

@@jayden._.0974 Yeah, by _Marinette._ We haven’t even seen _young Alix_ use it yet.

Along with some of the most broken miraculous ever (I mean, the _Snake_ and the _Horse,_ REALLY?! Unless I'm missing something cause I didn't watch that episode yet, how is it POSSIBLE that they ever were in trouble with these two in the team?)

No argument there. Pretty sure even Austruc admitted the characters were dumbed down for the sake of "plot"

@Dragongamer 7 Being smart = akumatization 😭

It’s so funny how Marinette’s so called friends and family would believe Lila over her. If Alya didn’t exist I think I would’ve lost my sanity by now on how dumb the heroines act.

@Unknown It's not easy to fake debilitating conditions that cause you to miss a large portion of the school year, that would be serious red flags to any school and there's generally a legal process that people have to go through when so much school is missed. France has similar laws to the US in this regard. Repeatedly missing school is considered a serious thing in a lot of places, it even can be criminal on the parents part where I live if the school finds there's no good reason for it.

@@wumdyybuhg5192 why the heck would he do that?! That's horrible writing

Yep I agree 👍 💯

He needs to actually give her character back

@@yabazyabacoffee They would have to do a lot of damage control to salvage her character

This Chloe hate is getting really old. She deserves better.

And he only hates her because he based her off a bully from his childhood

Who is Thomas?

@@bigkebizino8970 Thomas Astruc, Co-Creator and Writer for Miraculous

It feels like every time Miraculous Zigs in the right direction for the characters Astruc ends up zagging them in the opposite direction and won’t stop zagging till their character arc completely derailed and destroyed.

@@bearerofbadnews1375 It's gonna look like a damn heartbeat monitor by the end of it lol

he really has ruined the show because of his own ego and immaturity, and watch his stans make excuses for him like he isn't a grown man

I wish they just got rid of astruc permanently

@@rallysmith6403 yeah he isn’t even a good writer 🤮

@@brookezhah ikr 😒

@@brookezhah Yeah youre right

🙋

You have a good point

LMAO IDK WHY THIS COMMENT IS FUNNY BUT IT IS

Same!

Well that would then contradict when they were going to London and Adrien was watching English lessons because he’s going to England and he’s french but if he speaks English, what’s the point I guess

At this point questioning "How do you know English?" makes you stupid because English is basically international language. Majority of the countries know this language. Better question would be "You don't know English?"

honestly yes. I am so tired of his chloe is pure evil argument casue at worst shes a brat that refuses to change when given chanses todo so. But chloe often did and was willing to change the writers just put her in situations where she was forced to go back to what she was. And honestly it's a shame casue she could've been a good way to show how some people do change and have lila show others don't and a lot can be down to either upbringing or just base personality traits they learn.

What's worse is that they made Lila the one in charge of this partnership meaning that Chloe is a lesser villain.

In season 3, Chloe started having a redemption arc, but that was totally scrapped soon after it was started and then replaced by a carbon copy Zoe which, we're not going to lie to each other, doesn't really add much. -thing of the story unfortunately for lack of exposure time. Zoe is a "nice" version of Chloe, here is the only line of development of the character. I was expecting Chloe to be akumatized after discovering that the amulet her sister gave her was actually a magic charm created by Lady bug, and not a gift from their mother, so her stepsister had manipulated him into accepting Ladybug's charm. But I imagine that then it would have required a much more complex writing exercise of around 5-10 minutes and would have developed the character of Zoe and that relationship with Chloe as well...

This guy is teaching me how to not write.

@@matthewpenguindrum6001 Has Zoe even done anything worth mentioning since her arrival? Other than being Queen Bee, but lame?

I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♀️

@@stefaniarusso oh my god shut up you reply the same thing on other comments like stoooop

@@FinnianRowland why are you so mad over a comment lmaooo

I agree. But they literally gave so little backstory that it barely mattered

You would be a better writer than the actual writers

minotaurox is definitely for qillin because he would beat her easily

@@wlwl2161 But i think the whole thing with Qilin is the fact that they doesn't need to fight to solve the problem... althought it could have been the same thing with or without Minotaurox.

@@fefosilveira It's actually good. But simple man is episode we really don't needed

I rewrote how each other these episodes would play out as superhero introductions. I swapped Caprikid and Rooster Bold due to their talents matching up with the villains. I do agree on the other two. Caprikid would be good to put in Qilin, since he’s an artist and he could be added in Sabine’s class. If I were to rewrite the episode to include him, Sabine would be acting off due to being a little upset about the late Mother’s Day and hoping to make it up at dinner with Marinette. Her day would go as normal, but with Nathaniel noticing at the art class. The bus ticket thing would be her final straw instead of coming out of nowhere. It would ruin her day with Marinette as usual and be blatant injustice. Caprikid could use his power to recreate the painting the police destroyed; he could see her struggling to paint it in class while everyone was working. Nathaniel seems like the type who would do this of his own accord instead of listening to Ladybug. He seems sassy and stubborn like that. Recreating the painting would symbolically imply fixing her situation and standing up for her and her culture. This would add to the message of the episode in showing another character supporting Sabine instead of being a bystander. It would also introduce Caprikid as a hero who doesn’t always listen to Ladybug, but still does the right thing. Rooster Bold would be in Psychomedian, since they’re both writers and superhero fanatics. They could bond over their dreams and fears of failure. Marc could talk to Psychomedian instead of Marinette, at first he’d be inspired and delighted to meet a fellow writer. Perhaps he could help Marinette get Adrien in the show and have another spot for Nathaniel. After talking to the producer, the comedian could get jealous of Marc’s fresh start and talent, while he’s stuck doing comedy. I don’t know what Marc would use his power for. Perhaps changing Rooster Bold’s power to be less op would be better, maybe he could instead absorb someone’s already existing power through their miraculous. Rooster Bold could use his power to make an illusion and was chosen, because he happened to be closer to the action than Rena. (This episode would occur while Rena Rouge still exists, so she’d need to be axed to show Rooster’s power.) This would convince Psychomedian that his power is no longer working on them, when in reality their eyes are closed. We wouldn’t see that horrifying eye painting. Marc’s soccer skills would be more important if his power is absorption instead of a deus ex machina, where he always scores and can pick any skill to be op at. He could absorb Minotauox’s power and they’d both be impervious. I agree with the other two. Minotauox would be a slightly dumbed down voice of reason who would follow the kid’s orders, he’d become impervious to becoming more simple with five minutes left to help save the day or he’d feed his quami and use his powers multiple times. Miss Hound could get more of a focus in Penalteam, where her and Rooster Bold are the ones scoring due to their skills and not just their powers. She could stand up to Chloe with more emphasis. Chat Noir and Ladybug could be on defense and have a sweet moment whilst their teammates are scoring. They’d then realize they can depend on their team without Ladybug puppeteering them and without having each other as the main stars. Teamwork is depending upon the competency of other people not just directing what they do. The Cat Blanc thing would still be in Ladybug’s mind for the finale, but it’d start to resolve the LadyNoir conflict and give other hero’s more room to breathe and not be plot devices.

People like this like to equate good writing with a good show. Like heck... A lot of other factors contribute to that...music and animation. Heck the initial concept can be what draws people in and the special effects. And as for the Kids show excuse...that's a simple minded mentality because good story telling is universal and can resonate regardless if age.

The biggest problem with that last point though is that the "target audience" is literally aging faster than the show is produced. 😂 A lot of the young kiddos who started watching back in season 1 are either in high school now (or are about to), or have become adults. Do their opinions not matter anymore...? Should they stay silent about something they grew up with, since they're not elementary/middle schoolers anymore...? (And yes I agree with you lol, just flabbergasted that someone said that to you 😂)

@@rushalias8511 Right! Like everything that is successful has to be perfect? That's completely false. Look at things like Twilight and Riverdale for example. Both of those contain a lot of objectively terrible writing but still are wildly popular. I didn't say anything because the person said they didn't want to compare ML to other shows because it "has its own style and writing" and also because I'm sick of debating these types of idiots

@@izzy1356 100%! I started watching the show in middle school and now I'm in college! I remember how great the show was in its first two seasons and now the only reason why I'm watching is to see if hopefully they fix some of the glaring issues! Jeremy Zag wrote a lot of the second season, and one of the reasons it has decreased a lot in quality is because he stepped back to work on the ML movie and let Thomas Astruc take over (we all know how great he is.) I'm still holding out hope that this means the movie will be great because Jeremy is an awesome writer. I didn't respond to the person because tbh I'm so sick of these types of fans who are immature and deflect criticism about the writing by trying to make you look stupid. It's just annoying. I won't indulge people who right out of the gate try to shut you down like that. I recently had a discussion with someone who didn't even like Chloe as a character but still acknowledged how her writing was incredibly poor. That was productive, even though we didn't agree on the characters at all

Yeah, miraculous reddit community members are like this

Even better, delete Simpleman and replace if with an actual episode. Its S4, they said it'll be like Chat Blanc level each episode. There's no time to goofing around. At least make it enjoyable like Psycomedian, thats fhe bare minimum

Qilin would’ve been perfect to bring Ivan in, his power makes him resistant to enemy attacks, which would’ve let them get the handcuffs and break them

@@zachmakesstuff9866 Or Miss Bound could use the ball and get the handcuffs or the keys.

You're asking Miraculous writers to be competent. That's like asking a fish to breathe on land, or a dog to fly. It's not happening.

@@ElmerFudd16 i don't know, the bio-ingenered dog of "lower decks" could fly, speak and shapeshift. If that dog can fly, there has to be at least one writer on the crew that is competent.

Yeah I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♂️

Eh.... not quite..? I still can't get past the fact that Chloé is supposed to be unfazed by Marinette's attraction towards Adrien (see "Animaestro"), and deep down she isn't really interested in what the "baker girl" says or does (see "Malediktator"). Her behaviour in "Gabriel Agreste" already contradicted the two aforementioned episodes as well as "The Collector", in which she was brought to tears by the thought that Adrien wasn't going to come to school anymore... but all of a sudden, "better locked up thatn breathing the same air as Marinette"!? WUT!? So, seeing her actively trying to prevent Marinette from talking to Adrien in "Risk"... sorry, no amount of "I'm allied with Lila now" will do for me.

Also: her own un-akumatization in "Miraculer" was much, much better and IMHO still remains unsurpassed by all other instances.

@@Orkprof okay 👍 👌

@@Orkprof I agree 👍 💯

Use it to find shadow Moth

Imagine if the rooster, the animal that is commonly known as "the start of a new day", had the power to give other heroes ANOTHER use of their special ability. That would have been amazing without changing the idea of the power nor making it a Deus ex machina in a nutshell. Like everything in this show, the potential is wasted af.

@@phantom115cw but we can't do that because then we won't have another 3 seasons of this trainwreck of a show

I can’t say I agree, but I found a comment that seemed to clarify the ability is more cause and effect based rather than just being able to say “I now know exactly where Hawkmoth is” or “I can now fly at supersonic speeds with a rainbow trail behind me”, as a way of limiting its power. Still, I feel like we should’ve gotten Rooster Bold and Caprikid in the same episode, long before this one, Ivan should’ve gotten his own episode as Minotaurox, and this should’ve been Sabrina’s episode; maybe being a superhero for a hot minute is just the confidence boost she needed to stand up for herself against Chloe.

@@ephemeral2925 And what is the difference?

That makes a lot of sense

Hopefully the leaker will "Strike Back" after already putting themselves at "Risk".

@@dangerbuffrockyHa! Gottem

@@dangerbuffrocky ya gottem

Why would Ladybug give miraculouses to complete strangers tho?

@@gayghostguy2089 She doesn't have to know them personally but if she saw the heroic value a person has she might consider having them on the team.

I agree mari is stupid as heck bc her friend turned on her in one episode they are not trust worty material same with nino i know best friends are best friends but he betrayed himself and alya same with alya.

@@gayghostguy2089 she doesn't have to give it to complete strangers she can give it to people she knows like her parents or her teacher

@@usernotfound_____yet yeah I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♂️

Ladybug and Chat Noir both know that Lila should never get a miraculous, but I see what you mean.

@@gracejindra2727 yeah me too ✋ 😊 😉

For real. His power is literally manipulating probability to work in his favor. Also CapriKid just has Ladybug's power of creating an object to help in battle, except his power doesn't make the object magical. Also I was miffed when the ball broke through Carapace's shield. Seriously?

@@meaganthemarionette4899 I mean penalty probably can make super kick which can knock anyone

I thought her debut as hero would mark the day she stood up for herself against Chloe. My disappointment is immeasurable

I have to agree. If they are going to die on this hill that Chloe is bad, then why give a miraculous to the person that sticks up for her? Ladybug has an obsession with giving out miraculous to her classmates at this point.

@@tashaw2786 At least Félix gets the Miraculous in Strike Back.

@Spidey I'm actually pretty excited about that too. Hopefully, it's done right.

@@tashaw2786 Knowing the shows' track record, I would not hold up muck hope. But the finale seems promising.

Quite literally, it is his debut since his first appearance. His whole existence is basically for the writers to say "Look, we have an lgbt character! We're so kind by giving representative!" but then ignore him for 2 seasons

@@fatherplatypus2316 I found his and Nate's Interactions kinda cute, but aside from that there isn't much to Marc.

I especially wish we had a Sabrina-centered episode where she earned her miraculous. She has a fair bit of plot significance considering she's the person closest to Chloe.

@@fatherplatypus2316 I legit forgot he existed until this episode.

@@fatherplatypus2316 I would say, that there are two couples, that are at least bi-sexual. Mark and Nathaniel and Rose and Juleka. But yes, from Mark and Nathaniel i get the feeling more, that they are some kind of couple. And yes, if it isn't especially for the episode most of Marinette's friends are mostly ignored.

I read it on the miraculous wiki, and i quote, that the whole reason Simpleman exist bcs Thomas said the fandom only focus on the shipping and romance. That's how low he thinks of us

@@fatherplatypus2316 Well, a big Part of why many People watch the Show *is* because of Shipping..... Think of all the People who hated Luca and Kagami because they stood in the way of the Ship.

@@johannesseyfried7933 yeah, but he wrote a whole love square into the series and we see Marinette fawn over Adrien pretty much every episode. He can't write a super hero story with such a big focus on romance and then complain people are into the romance part

Justice for Chloe, Nathaniel, Ivan and Sabrina. For Chloe, the creators straight up threw her redemption arc and character development out of the window. For the others, the creators rushed them and shoehorned them into one episode instead of giving each of them their own episodes. Their costumes and powers also look rushed. I was so excited for my favorite character Nathaniel to get a miraculous cuz I thought he was going to get his own focus episode but...nah

Honestly, y'all have to stop watching this show now if you guys can't take anymore of it. Just go watch netflix instead, it's all have the aspect you need like whatever your said in the comments. LOL

@@ananalparabiabi1200 The problem is some of the people have been watching this show for YEARRRSSS (from childhood too teenage years or more). There's just the need to watch it all and get it over with 🙄

Yea I 100% agree, it seemed more like that

If he was actually shy he would've just kicked the ball instead of doing all those tricks in front of everyone. It's the exposition of him actually being good what makes it seem he's faking it - it's "show don't tell" done wrong

@@kou7191 Exactly! That Scene was horrible! Even if he wasn't shy, that Move is entirely unnecessary. Simply give the Man his Football back!

@@johannesseyfried7933 I think since it’s aimed at a younger demographic, it’s supposed to confirm with the audience that he’s good at football, nonetheless doesn’t take away from the scene being kind of awkward

He didn't activate it first

@@regaec5908 i thought Ladybug would've known better to give rough explanation on the villain's power and have Luka already have second chance active beforehand

@@fatherplatypus2316 well its miraculous what you'd expect, things make no sense in this show this episode is already a mess

@@regaec5908 true

@@regaec5908 yes at this point

I mean it was football match but she could at least brought 9 hereos instead so they can be 11 players

It was actually a game, Trophy is glasses and who win he will get the glasses. But yeah turtle miraculous should be immune to powers that's not cataclysm or similar

It takes a soccer team to able to defeat a soccer team. It would have lasted who knows how long if there was not a game of soccer taking place.

Lol

Would've actually made more sense. Nathaniel is more established compared to Marc and the Rooster's broken power fits him more.

Lol, so true its like Thomas just forced everything together for the finale, i was expecting penalteam to actually be Miss Hounds first debut cause the episode is Chloe related and you know Sabrina is Chloe's friend, not with the others cause it will feel crowded, but nah.

Marc literally had all the screen time Sabrina was done dirty cuz this was supposed to be an episode where she finally rebel against Chloe Ivan was just here and being a gentle giant Nathaniel case is the worst here cuz we didn't even see him playing and his miraculous power is ridiculous cuz it's budget evillustrator

The only person who got a miraculous out of sense is Chloe

Yeah I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♂️

Yeah. That or if the other heros are getting tired. Maybe like a power called Call of the morning since Roosters are supposed to help people wake up!

Kagami still waiting to get her full transformation

Specially since there's a big chance they'll just deus ex bunny it all anyways.

It sucks what they did to Chloe try was potential with this character and it’s Ultimately wasted. She now just a badly written character in the ever expanding cast of badly written characters in Miraculous.

What if she felt so annoyed that her character was ran into the ground that she gets Akumatised into a villain called "Character Assassin" who's gimmick is basically that she is a ninja who strikes her enemies with a blade that reverts their character back to who they were at the start of the show. I dunno I just think it's a funny concept

@@liamdalemon1525 That might work in a cheeky Parody on Miraculous, but I am not quite sure if it would work so well in the actual Show. Also, would that much change about Marinette if she was hit? She might be less of an Ass to Cat Noir....

That's me. mostly because ive gotten this far, might as well finish it up before I drop the show entirely.

It's dumpster fire that I love watching for some reason

Exactly!

@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll yeah I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♂️

Wakfu has the best football episodes, ok a hybrid sport of football and american one, but its amazing. Really fun.

@@marocat4749 wow that's so exciting 😍 👏 😄

IS Roger really the Head of Police? 🤔 I thought he was a simple Police Officer. Luca might not even *go* to Marinette's School, and as far as we know, Juleka didn't know that her Dad was Jagged Stone. And I am pretty sure that Max's Mother simply *applied* for the Job of Astronaut and not used to be one.

This has to be the dumbest comment I've seen in a while. I don't think you know what "spoilt rich kids" means. Most of them aren't even that rich to begin with 🤦

@@whatever5401...

@@johannesseyfried7933 Yes it's said multiple times in the show that Roger is the head of the police and no but many rich kids go to separate schools or maybe he chose to be home schooled... Just cause they didn't know who their dad was, doesn't change the fact that he's a rock star and I thought she was 🤔 she is a train Conductor and a scientist so she's probably well off, there's different levels of wealth but they're going to a school that has amazing facilities, so it can't just be some run of the mill public school

​@@KyoKatTheCookie23 "rich kids" mean that they actually have to be rich to be considered a "rich kid". Most of those kids are either just well off or average. Chloe and Adrien are the only one that can be considered a "rich kid". Just because they came from special backgrounds and writers like to give their characters interesting backgrounds doesn't mean that it has any special implications

I don't see English people calling Rocketear "Larme Ultime", Wishmaker "Exauceur" or Mega Leech "Sangsure". So I don't understand why Miss Hound would be translated as "Traquemoiselle"

@@ephemeral2925 Honestly, I almost prefer Miss Hound. That Name sounds a little less stupid.

@@ephemeral2925 If we could get Rena Rouge as a hero name, we could've gotten Traquemoiselle. 🤷‍♀️

I mean Rooster Bold sounds pretty cool

@@kylecunns there was nothing wrong with Coq Courage. I mean if you wanted to anglicize the spelling a little, fine.

Same!!I ship Sabrina and Chloe in a difrent univers,not this one,this one is toxic af and I am tired of it,also Adrien/ChatNoire carried this episode!

@Isha Shifar Ok, mistakes from a first grader i can understand. But you can't tell me, that Adrien is so isolated from everything, that he doesn't know the most simple rule for soccer^^ And i can understand, that Mari trusts her classmates, but in that episode.. it was to much for me

What did encanto do to him

@@Seven-h-kun Look up Thomas Astruc and Encanto tweets

@@Seven-h-kun Thomas had a facebook post I think abt his opinions on Encanto.

I’d rather watch Encanto than watch Miraculous Ladybug anytime.

Hell nah

Umm. Is the top commenter okay?

Most of the villains are literally no more of a threat than in season 1, yet the show will pretend they are by having 7 heroes defeat someone when 2 or 3 should be able to handle them.

@@ElmerFudd16 and she could just combine many miraculous like seen In kwamibuster

That what she there for Chloe was on the step to redeem her self yes she did for attention she did a great job as a superhero

@@chloeeng6811 no matter how i try to see it, tomus astuc did chloe dirty, at the verry least dont make her go bak to season 1 chloe, let her have charecter development, and maybe some reprocussio s to her actions honestly, id blame audrey for everything tho, shes a terrible mother and i dont understand why audrey would put up woth her (a divorce)

@@chloeeng6811 Consider you defending Astruc's point meaningless when you get older.

Agreed. I agree with all of this!

@Isha Shifar agreed. I get what you are saying about Cat Noir not wanting to overthink, but he played soccer before so it makes no sense how he did not know how to play here. And do agree that dumbing down the boys to lift up the girls is not feminism. It is sexist.

Yall be mad if the dad be judging chloe

@@mgueye2mgueye261 he needs to read her some discipline and act like a father not just to Zoe

Personally, I felt like Chloe was overrated, but I *do* agree that she could have been an interesting Character. In Theory, Chloe could have been pretty cool. But in Practice the whole thing was terrible. Also, yes, Nate's and Marinette's Powers are pretty similar, except that everything the Lucky Charm creates usually helps solve Problems. Still feels way to similar.

@@johannesseyfried7933 "In Theory, Chloe could have been pretty cool. But in Practice the whole thing was terrible." Now switch out Chloé with anything else and you got Miraculous in a nutshell, lol.

@@10Bendog That's.... Yeah, that's fair. 😄 And, kinda sad, tbh.

In my opinion in my opinion chole needs a redemption arc am not the biggest chole fan but I do want her to change they should have handled chole character ilke raimundo form xoilan showdown where he felt regret for the evil stuff he did when he worked for wuya he grow as a character or even Pacifica northwest where form gravity falls where pacifica was spoiled and mean ilke chole but chang her ways but no Instead the the writers of the show are keeping her the same idiot bully she always is again I hate chole but I do want her to change her ways but that whould be interesting to see ilke zoe but there Thomas is wasting chole character at this point just saying

@@nickifill1772 Huh. I didn't think there were still People who remembered Xiaolin Showdown. 🤔😄😁

Dont forget the daughter of a renowned chef, Alya, and Daughter of a rock star, Juleka

@@fatherplatypus2316 Is it public Knowledge that Juleka and Luca are the Kids of Jagged Stone?

@@johannesseyfried7933 no, i just put her there for extra resume

Max could've used voyage. Kim could've messed up Chloe's power from the get go. The team could've barrages Chloe and take her sunglasses by force. This whole episode could've been ended at many times

At least luka should've activated it before the match start

Agreed.

Yes

Yes.

Thomases writing is how i make homework

Yeah I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♀️

They cannot use their powers if they're trap in the ball.

@@jezzaxenialagura1917 thats not true💀

@@k4taclysm if it's not, then why they didn't use their powers? Well I think I'm right tho

maybe he didn't activate the power yet

Don't they only spend about 4 minutes worth of time doing anything worthwhile per episode? Wouldn't be any different.

That is one of the big writing problems with the show. They don't set limits for what the powers can do,like literally Marinette can make ANYTHING SHE CAN IMAGINE. With power like that,they should have won by now.

I love how she hands them all out to children no less. You sure you can't lend one to like, a Cop or something?

@@liamdalemon1525 I don’t care who she lends to, I say it’s unnecessary

@@liamdalemon1525 Or to just any adult !

Ohoho, and might i add, why does she need all of them if all it took was King Monkey's power to basically win the whole thing? Or, Vesperia to stun them one by one (not the most efficient tho)? Or to have Ryuko blast them all into the sky and score goals more than anything? Or have Carapace trapped all of them inside the shield and the other make goals? Sorry for the rant, im pissed

@@fatherplatypus2316 Oh no, feel free to rant a little. 😄 I honestly hadn't thought about using the Turtle Miraculous like that, but that is another good Idea. And as a Fan of Kagami, I never say no to some more Ryuko. 😏😄

@@johannesseyfried7933 yeah I agree 👍 💯 🙆‍♂️

All they need was king monkeys throwing his toys to chloe since that how they win the other hero was useless

Do you know why Adrien didn't know the rules of football and it doesn't makes any sense considering the furious fu episode? Well he's a sentimonster and that explains why😂

Only when they need him/her to be Generic Forgettable Villain #140

Gives a really bad taste in my mouth, because I was provoked a lot in a sort of form of bullying. They knew I would react sourly and used that to drag my reputation threw the mud

Agreed.

I know like Bruh

Yep.

Not to mention in Cyrus the great’s words:,, Lady bitchs powers she can create whatever she WANTs right !!?! YES SHE CAN AS A MATTER OF FACT THIS EPISODE SAYS SO ( mr. Pigeon 72 ) and this episode says so ( dearest family ) if she can create a galatical Gallet than she can create whatever she wants with no limits ! “

He knows what a hound is, the name is still just bad. There are names that are just short and simple, and some with a little meaning to them. Her name is just a weird attempt to be both. Spider-Man is a simple and short name, it would be like trying to make his name Mister Arachnid

@@getmeto50ksubsorelse46 Ohh. Well what would you suggest her name be? I'm curious. Because I'm open to seeing different ideas.^^

Same

Same!

Same I Just hate Astruc He even had Beef With Disney cause He didnt liked Encanto Just why😒

Yep. Feel the same way

I agree with this!

@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll me too ✋ 😊

I wish this was the actual plot 😭

I can kinda understand Chloe. But....Lila? Really?!?

@@johannesseyfried7933 well lila has a.workaholic mother and her father is out of the picture so she lies to get attention from others. I can understand her because ive been lied and been embarrased for it also held a grudge but lila takes it too far.

@@fresnelbiteu5052 Meh. I am still not very sympathetic to her. Mostly because she doesn't have many positive Traits. I guess you could say that she's very cunning....but her Lies are all so ridiculous and over the Top that nobody with a Brain should believe this Girl. Its one of the reasons I dislike her. Everybody seems to turn into an Idiot around her.

True

becuase the charms dont work anymore as shadowmoth now makes mega-akumas which can destroy the magical charms..

@@k4taclysm true